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Moto G 4G LTE is slower than 3G 8GB version?

Hi All,
Yesterday I bought myself 4G LTE version from Tesco UK. I immediately noticed it is slower and less responsive than my dads 3g version bought from Vodafone. When you try to flip LTE device it takes nearly twice the time of 3G version. Although video won`t show it it kind of stutter when flipping as well.
From what I know brand new device should be quicker and snappier then 6 months used build, but it is not!
Has anyone got any ideas how to fix it? I do not think it is one off bad example. But it may have something to do with kernel and rom. 3G is still on stock Vodafone 4.4.2 while new LTE on 4.4.3 of Tesco.
Any advice? If not I will ask for a refund...
Here is the movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7vGfR6Cvik

Probably the additional gyroscope sensor in the 4G version. Have you run any actual benchmarks on both?

michalpo said:
Hi All,
Yesterday I bought myself 4G LTE version from Tesco UK. I immediately noticed it is slower and less responsive than my dads 3g version bought from Vodafone. When you try to flip LTE device it takes nearly twice the time of 3G version. Although video won`t show it it kind of stutter when flipping as well.
From what I know brand new device should be quicker and snappier then 6 months used build, but it is not!
Has anyone got any ideas how to fix it? I do not think it is one off bad example. But it may have something to do with kernel and rom. 3G is still on stock Vodafone 4.4.2 while new LTE on 4.4.3 of Tesco.
Any advice? If not I will ask for a refund...
Here is the movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7vGfR6Cvik
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Try doing a Antutu Benchmark test..my XT1028 and XT1045 comparison..
Yes..as an earlier post..probably the gyro has alot to do with the difference..and other supported features..I done your same test..and my results where the same as yours..but..apples to apples we should compare..lol
Here is my benchmark tests..XT1028 (then) XT1045
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I did antutu benchmark test:
3G 8GB old version:
4G LTE 8GB new version:
I am not happy about flipping being slower in new device... I will be going back to tesco and I will ask for a full refund. In my eyes I do not need really gyroscope, but I flip my mobile mutliple times a day and waiting for it to flip 1 extra second is so annoying! I would take my back 2 years in technology and that was not what I wanted buying new mobile....
It is a shame that a new version is slightly slower than old one. I do not think sd card is going to convince me to keep it... I will get 16gb old version and use OTG cable or wait for LG G3 to become available in decent price range 300-400 pounds.

Well it seems to me that your testing has a few flaws...
First, you are comparing two completely different roms and most important you are comparing two roms that are not even on the same firmware version. And as it has been noted elsewhere version 4.4.3 is slower than 4.4.2
But this is Just my opinion
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@michalpo, What's the case you are using on your old Moto G? It looks good and protective without ruining the look of the device.

nirmalbalaji said:
@michalpo, What's the case you are using on your old Moto G? It looks good and protective without ruining the look of the device.
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00GY6X9RK/ref=pe_385721_37038051_TE_dp_1
It is decent I must say. I even ordered myself a new one for the 4G version. Shame I returned it this afternoon because that sluggish flipping screen was driving me crazy!!
What I also noticed was the shut down time was different. Old one was just a second or two faster again! When it comes to booting time, new one won it obviously, but that may be cause by many apps installed on old one, while new one was just clean.
I will look for used Moto G 16gb without 4g now or wait for Lg G3 prices to drop.

Haha what a rage quite that was....

Tomorrow. ..next Galaxy..no Note 5...

I have the impression that tomorrow will not be the day of Note 5 release. My feelings are that we could see S6 edge+ and maybe a smart watch ( or three ) but not the Note 5. What do think?

I'm hoping to see it. I have my upgrade due and it's between note 5 and s6 edge+ I really hope tomorrow answers all of my questions and helps me choose lol
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You have a really bad impression, or you don't know how to use the Internet

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You have a really bad impression, or you don't know how to use the Internet
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Lol. That had me laughing thanks.
But to respond to the op, tomorrow should be the announcement of the note 5 and the next edge device(which should be the s6 edge plus) that doesn't necessarily mean release. Prob start taking pre orders though. Im picking up another note edge tomorrow to replace the hole in my heart so i am gunna take a good look at both of them and will prob be ditching my s6 for one or the other. Guessing the note 5 since i should have a note edge already. Unless the s6 plus blows me away which i dont see happening.
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Will see. All the offocial invitation are for one device not two. Leaked prices and Pre-orders are for edge + only. So we will see.
BTW I am expecting lessons from you to help me learn how to use Internet. Your comments are the proof of your good education.

It seems like the rumors about a regional launch for Note 5 are true. In Romania the pen is missing from the advertising, the rest is the same

I hope the n5 will have an ir blaster, rumours say it hasn't

There is Note 5:

calinormy said:
I have the impression that tomorrow will not be the day of Note 5 release. My feelings are that we could see S6 edge+ and maybe a smart watch ( or three ) but not the Note 5. What do think?
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The Samsung teaser said it is a Galaxy Event, not Note Event though Note5 will also announce together you clearly see Note5 with SPen in the picture. The big question is an unknown third device there with 6.5~7" size, I'll call it as S6 Ultra(much like the Sony Z1 Ultra 6.44").

I owned Z Ultra from Sony. It was the best device ( first in the world with sd800) except Note series at the moment. The only negative was his camera and the lack of led light. Otherwise awesome. Maybe it's Samsung time now...

calinormy said:
I owned Z Ultra from Sony. It was the best device ( first in the world with sd800) except Note series at the moment. The only negative was his camera and the lack of led light. Otherwise awesome. Maybe it's Samsung time now...
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Wait a bit more ... I beat we'll see S6 Edge Active Ultra Extreme Ultimate Edition later.

TheEndHK said:
Wait a bit more ... I beat we'll see S6 Edge Active Ultra Extreme Ultimate Edition later.
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You forgot the Super Duper part?
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Only Note5 and S6 Edge Plus...
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-Note5-vs-Galaxy-S6-first-look_id72405
We are yet to draw more detailed conclusions about the Galaxy Note5’s camera performance, but the initial impressions are for a snappy camera that captures great images. We also noticed that the double-click quick activation shortcut is present here as well, and Samsung has added the option to control shutter speed in the Pro camera mode.
But still a good news there, I think we'll have manual shutter speed in Pro mode soon.

No Galaxy Note 5 for Europe.

borimol said:
No Galaxy Note 5 for Europe.
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What?
Nevermind. Oh well maybe we will get the improved version. One with better battery and extra storage. They have done stuff like that. Remember the s5 lta

Shall i upgrade to S7 Edge From Note 4 ?!

Dear All,
I have Galaxy Note 4 since March 2015 , it still works fine and almost as a new ,, got a new battery a month ago due to the fail of the old one and all working just fine. i was always a fan of Note Series from Samsung and used Note 2 , 3 and 4
I liked the S7 Edge and all reviews are positive for it , the bigger battery and better camera - despite lower MP - but it's enough.
I just feel bored from the Note 4 and i want to get a new device , although i didn't like the edge screen while playing with friends S6 Edge but i guess it's time to try something different.
Do you think that i shall upgrade ? i may sell the Note 4 - will be half price of S7 edge BTW - or give it to my brother or mom as i really still like it
For those who using the dual sim version ,, how is battery life with you while using the dual sim ?!
Thank You !

I went from from Note 4 to the S7 Edge for practically the same reasons as you stated. I wanted something new, bit bored of the Note 4 etc etc.
I've had the S7 Edge for about a month now. No regrets at all. It's a fantastic phone, great battery, themes are really cool, you can change the DPI without root. In fact it's the first phone haven't rooted.
I kept my Note 4 for myself. I use it to watch Netflix at night, as it's a slightly bigger screen and the speakers are better (something to do with the S7 being waterproof)
I have the dual sim version

Do it! You won't regret it.
I upgraded to S7E and just giving the N910C to my wife. I'm loving the S7E, very smooth, feature rich and with great battery life!

I would wait for the Note 6, if rumors are right it would be amazing device with more improvement than S7, defiantly wait for Note 6.
Other than that S7E is the best phone atm and maybe one of the best ever made, it has some performance issues with certain games but other than that it's unbeatable by anything.

I upgraded from Note 5 and really happy i did it.
You wont regret it.

I had the Note 4 (N910f) before as well. Now I have theS7 edge (G935f). I modded the Note 4 very much and felt like I had done everything and was bored. What I also didn't like was the build quality. Of course it had this metal bezel but thats it.
Would I choose the S7 edge again? definitely Yes! The quality is superb. I think it is the first Samsung device that is worth its money regarding its build quality.
I don't really miss the pen, even if I liked the app integration. The water resistent feature is awesome as well. My Xperia Z had it and since then I missed it. I was making underwater videos and pictures in a pool for example. But the key factor is for me the camera. Before I had the S7 edge I didn't even think of taking photos in the dark. This is so cool being able to make photos on partys etc.... I am right now on a semester abroad in Spain and people spending their life here outside all day and night. So I really do a lot of photos and I don't miss a DSLR or whatsoever... I will add two photos I made to show it.
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But I would definitely use a case. because otherwise you might touch the edge unintentional. I use the original Samsung leather case --> best choice imho

i would like to hear from someone who have the dual sim version , what is it's processor Exynos or SD , What about the battery life while using the dual sim ?
Thanks @Sunfl4sh to compare against Note 4 , it's really a hard choice to ditch the Note series , specially i will pay twice the price of Note 4 if i managed to Sell it
The photos looks amazing ,, if you can post more photos it will be appreciated
Thanks all for your fast feedback, appreciated

The S7 camera will blow the Note 4 one, no worries there

is it true that i can flash the FD version with F firmware with no problem ??

I also switched from Note 4 to S7 Edge, love the change. Water resistance is a plus and both cameras are great but the S7 one is a bit better.
Also, I just noticed how heavy the N4 really was! The difference is huge.
I do miss the s-pen sometimes, but I still have the N4 so I can always use it whenever I want.

I did. I was a bit unsure about moving to a non-note device but I ended up getting the S7 Edge at a decent price!
I installed all of my apps, launchers etc and it flies.
It's the ONLY phone I've ever had that hasn't been rooted etc.
I personally would say upgrade to the S7 Edge.
It's fantastic, and dude, the camera really is fantastic; it's shockingly good.

So all of you says that it's better to move from Note 4 to S7 Edge ?!
Any one tried the Dual SIM version ?!

I've asked the same question

My sister gave me her S7E as she moved up to the S8. I'm supposed to give my N4 to my nephew who will give his S5 to my mum! I thought would be easy to let go of my N4...it's not!!!

I went from note 4 to note 5... my dad has my note 4 my wife has my note 5 and this s7edge is great espeically with an s8 ROM but i kinda do miss the size of the notes my reccomendation would be to wait for the Note8 OR if you dont wanna pay that ridiculous price then sure get an s7e
i also reccomend the note 5 if it works out cheaper for you

I've just upgraded to a S7 Edge from a Note 4 and although the former is slimmer, lighter, has a gimmicky edge, a better low light camera and a more precise fingerprint sensor I don't think It's worth twice the price (used) as a Note 4. Personally I would wait and see if you can get a refurbished (non exploding) Note 7 re-issue later this Year - for half the price it was new -

Well it was a great ride

I just got the s7 edge. Had my droid turbo for almost 2 years. My 2 complaints was the battery, why on earth a beautiful 3900 mah battery didnt last longer? Also the lack of updates, there is no reason on why stagefright was not patched yet. Marshmellow? I dont believe it. At lease the s7 edge will get updates. By the way, if your not like me and cant wait. the best phone will be the lg v20. I just couldnt wait any longer but was a hell of a ride!

Good luck brother, glad to have you while it lasted. I feel your frustration with the battery. Definitely should of added better battery management but oh well I guess. Enjoy the new phone! I'm actually going to keep mine for literally as long as it lasts. Going to replace the battery soon and see if I can squeeze another year out of it or so. I really want the Moto z droid force though. But none of the arrangements except the extra battery.

Rather ironic that you complain about the battery going bad, and you purchased an S7! Certainly hoping it is a fixed one.

Einsteindks said:
Rather ironic that you complain about the battery going bad, and you purchased an S7! Certainly hoping it is a fixed one.
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It was the (large) Note 7 that blows up. Not the (medium) S7 Edge.
Galaxy Note 7 Battery Explosion Burns Down Jeep And Garage
http://www.valuewalk.com/2016/09/galaxy-note-7-battery-explosion-burns-down-jeep-and-garage/
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The S7, S7 Edge, and Note 7 are the small, medium, large of the "7" series. People lumped them together that way anyway, but this year Samsung skipped the Note 6, so their Note numbering could catch up to their S series. They are numbered the same and have the same design language to all be one group, even though they are released at two different times in the year.

ChazzMatt said:
It was the (large) Note 7 that blows up. Not the (medium) S7 Edge. [emoji14]
Galaxy Note 7 Battery Explosion Burns Down Jeep And Garage
http://www.valuewalk.com/2016/09/galaxy-note-7-battery-explosion-burns-down-jeep-and-garage/
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I humbly stand corrected, a victim of a brain fart.

ChazzMatt said:
It was the (large) Note 7 that blows up. Not the (medium) S7 Edge.
Galaxy Note 7 Battery Explosion Burns Down Jeep And Garage
http://www.valuewalk.com/2016/09/galaxy-note-7-battery-explosion-burns-down-jeep-and-garage/
The S7, S7 Edge, and Note 7 are the small, medium, large of the "7" series. People lumped them together that way anyway, but this year Samsung skipped the Note 6, so their Note numbering could catch up to their S series. They are numbered the same and have the same design language to all be one group, even though they are released at two different times in the year.
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a 500$ smartphone completely burned a 50000$ Jeep!
I feel bad for the owner of the Jeep!

Sparksys said:
a 500$ smartphone completely burned a 50000$ Jeep!
I feel bad for the owner of the Jeep!
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It's more like a $900 smartphone

zys52712 said:
It's more like a $900 smartphone
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Whatever..you get the idea

yeah thats why I just skipped out of the note 7 lol. I dont even care if they"fix" it after the recall. With how crazy it was, I rather wait until the next note come out. I do like the s7 edge alot. I think my complaints of the turbo was settled with this phone. I did love my turbo though!

austtint said:
I just got the s7 edge. Had my droid turbo for almost 2 years. My 2 complaints was the battery, why on earth a beautiful 3900 mah battery didnt last longer? Also the lack of updates, there is no reason on why stagefright was not patched yet. Marshmellow? I dont believe it. At lease the s7 edge will get updates. By the way, if your not like me and cant wait. the best phone will be the lg v20. I just couldnt wait any longer but was a hell of a ride!
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Good 4 u dude..and what about battery in s7 edge?better than D.T?
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ghaem.xh said:
Good 4 u dude..and what about battery in s7 edge?better than D.T?
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It's 300mah less

zys52712 said:
It's 300mah less
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Tanx but not in numbers..in real usage
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ghaem.xh said:
Tanx but not in numbers..in real usage
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Look it up yourself if it's such a pressing matter

I think it is better. It is lasting all day for me. But if you dont need to upgrade right now. I highly recommend the new lg v20 when it comes out. the thing looks like a beast. I am overall happy with my s7 edge

First Impression of my Verizon Samsung Galaxy S8+

I picked up my pre-ordered Verizon S8+ at Best Buy yesterday. It took 15 minutes to migrate everything from my S7 edge using the PC version of SmartSwitch. All my settings and apps migrating almost perfectly. Only problem was that the app data didn't migrate. I had to execute each of my apps and initialize them as if they were just installed from GooglePlay Store.
I love this phone! As an ex Note 7 & 7s owner (yes I bought & return both), the S8+ is the perfect size for me, but I have big hands and long fingers. I have no problem using the fingerprint reader on the back of the phone next to the camera lens. It works much better than the S7 fingerprint reader on the home key!
Its snappy, no lag, and it feels like a truly premium phone. Software update G955USQU1AQD9 was applied upon startup, so don't restore your apps until after the OTA. The update seems to be pretty extensive but I didn't find any change log so I'm not sure what was changed but who cares, its a new device.
So far I am glad I upgraded from the S7 edge.

update was for no remapping of the Bixby button... but I agree it's an awesome phone but some people have been unlucky with the red tint and all

ChadH42 said:
I picked up my pre-ordered Verizon S8+ at Best Buy yesterday. It took 15 minutes to migrate everything from my S7 edge using the PC version of SmartSwitch. All my settings and apps migrating almost perfectly. Only problem was that the app data didn't migrate. I had to execute each of my apps and initialize them as if they were just installed from GooglePlay Store.
I love this phone! As an ex Note 7 & 7s owner (yes I bought & return both), the S8+ is the perfect size for me, but I have big hands and long fingers. I have no problem using the fingerprint reader on the back of the phone next to the camera lens. It works much better than the S7 fingerprint reader on the home key!
Its snappy, no lag, and it feels like a truly premium phone. Software update G955USQU1AQD9 was applied upon startup, so don't restore your apps until after the OTA. The update seems to be pretty extensive but I didn't find any change log so I'm not sure what was changed but who cares, its a new device.
So far I am glad I upgraded from the S7 edge.
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How does the speaker phone audio compare with the s7 edge? Louder or not

anshkhanna said:
How does the speaker phone audio compare with the s7 edge? Louder or not
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I haven't used the speaker phone yet but will later today. I love the new ear buds!

anshkhanna said:
How does the speaker phone audio compare with the s7 edge? Louder or not
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Way louder surprisingly

Phone has been great except for the voice to text. It's horrible. I can put my s7 edge and my daughter note 4 next to my s8+ and turn on the mic and both the s7 and note 4 get it perfect every time but the s8 is so out there it's unbelievable. It never gets it right.

mlock420 said:
update was for no remapping of the Bixby button... but I agree it's an awesome phone but some people have been unlucky with the red tint and all
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So glad mine didn't have this update out of the box, will not be updating until either root or unlocked bootloader exploit is found or if theres some crazy good reason to.

How is the battery life ? And does the device get really hot after a few hours of screen on time ? I used to own the Galaxy S6 Edge, and that device got really hot. I wasn't sure if it was the processor, or the battery. But after installing my apps, that phone got really hot, even if i was just watching videos on YouTube. Is this an issue with S8 plus ? I am considering getting one.

cjegan2008 said:
How is the battery life ? And does the device get really hot after a few hours of screen on time ? I used to own the Galaxy S6 Edge, and that device got really hot. I wasn't sure if it was the processor, or the battery. But after installing my apps, that phone got really hot, even if i was just watching videos on YouTube. Is this an issue with S8 plus ? I am considering getting one.
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My lady and I had the Galaxy S4 and the battery was horrible. She just purchased the S8+ a couple of weeks ago and it lasts all day with the same amount of usage. The S4 would die within a couple of hours doing the same tasks. She hasn't noticed it getting hot yet as the S4 would.

I have had my S8+ since Friday, and I'm blown away by the battery.
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