I have been looking into getting 935F in order to root it and be able to flash customer ROMs and to be able to uses titanium and TWRP for backups, etc.. With custom kernels now available, might even be able to use duel/multiboot again.
In going through the international threads, I have run into US users getting 935F's, but then getting Samsung Pay to work - which means the device cannot be rooted, as it trips KNOX. They then wish they could have other features like WiFi calling that they already had with their US 935T.
What I don't understand is why anyone would get the 935F in the US if they were not going to root it, as the locked bootloader 935T has Pay and the other features they would like on their 935F. What am I missing here?
Good question (I have a 930F that I use rooted on t-mobile). Without root, my reasons for liking it might be improved battery life and performance. Another would be the dual sim model could be useful for some purposes. The next reason might be cost (as t-mobile officially sells the 930T for $670 new while the 930FD has been on ebay for $530 new. Potentially, if the person traveled abroad, the flashable cscs or non-tmobile volte/wifi settings may work better with international carriers.
I switched over from a G935T to an F model for a few reasons, 1: Speedy'er updates (Or the ability to apply new updates from any region); 2: Option to root if I want to; 3: Identify unsaved numbers option
I managed to get Samsung Pay working. I did lose WiFi Calling (Might be able to get it back as some firmwares such as the one I'm on (AMO) has it. I also lost VoLTE. I wish I still had those two features but I never used WiFi Calling and don't browse much while on a phone call anyways, and if I do, I still get standard 4G while on a call. Thinking about it, I also lost native video calling and rich communication messaging, but those are also baked in, just haven't figured it out yet. Anyways, I basically switched for more freedom and options. There is way less bloat and it seems a bit snappier than the SD version.
Have any questions? Ask away.
Having switched from a G935T to a G935FD, I would say the two aren't even comparable in terms of performance. The FD is MUCH faster, has less bloatware, and practically never hangs or pauses. The phone is just in a different world. Add to that more than 2x the battery life, and it's not even a contest. I'd love to root and add some other features, but I find Samsung Pay more useful and practical for the time being.
And after spending some time with the FD, I'm still kinda chafed about the T version, like I got scammed, having read all kinds of great things about the S7e that were just never delivered. And then the FD exceeds all those expectations.
So there's that....
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And as for VOLTE -- I never used it, though I wouldn't mind if it was available. For wifi calling, I just have my number set to forward to a Google Voice number (also used for voicemail), and with the Hangouts Dialer, I can answer over wifi or LTE just fine when I don't receive a call or signal inside a building for some reason (which is rare).
Oh, and my download speeds are testing out at 3x what I was getting on the T version. Not sure why that is, but the speedtests don't lie. I'm getting 60+ Mbps down, 20+ up.
Tmobile version is Qualcomm MSM8996 Snapdragon 820
and g935fd is Exynos 8890 Octa with dual SIM card,
I just want to ask people which version is better but now as you said like exynos 8890 is better
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Thanks for all the responses above. Waiting on possible root on 935t, but looks like may be only temporary root.
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Having switched from a G935T to a G935FD, I would say the two aren't even comparable in terms of performance. The FD is MUCH faster, has less bloatware, and practically never hangs or pauses. The phone is just in a different world. Add to that more than 2x the battery life, and it's not even a contest. I'd love to root and add some other features, but I find Samsung Pay more useful and practical for the time being.
And after spending some time with the FD, I'm still kinda chafed about the T version, like I got scammed, having read all kinds of great things about the S7e that were just never delivered. And then the FD exceeds all those expectations.
So there's that....
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And as for VOLTE -- I never used it, though I wouldn't mind if it was available. For wifi calling, I just have my number set to forward to a Google Voice number (also used for voicemail), and with the Hangouts Dialer, I can answer over wifi or LTE just fine when I don't receive a call or signal inside a building for some reason (which is rare).
Oh, and my download speeds are testing out at 3x what I was getting on the T version. Not sure why that is, but the speedtests don't lie. I'm getting 60+ Mbps down, 20+ up.
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Do you have any issue connecting to band 12?
If you don't mind, can you point me to the Samsung Pay thread for the FD?
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Do you have any issue connecting to band 12?
If you don't mind, can you point me to the Samsung Pay thread for the FD?
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Not sure about band 12. I'm in New Orleans, and I seem to be on band 4 most of the time here. Reception seems quite a bit better than my G935T, for whatever reason.
For firmware, any firmware for the G935F will work for the FD. I followed this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-...ernational-t3340821/post67009736#post67009736
And I updated with the most recent version in this thread, along with the Spanish CSC_HOME file, as Samsung Pay works in Spain now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/official-stock-firmware-update-odin-t3335065
Be sure to wipe the cache partition after upgrading.
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Not sure about band 12. I'm in New Orleans, and I seem to be on band 4 most of the time here. Reception seems quite a bit better than my G935T, for whatever reason.
For firmware, any firmware for the G935F will work for the FD. I followed this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-...ernational-t3340821/post67009736#post67009736
And I updated with the most recent version in this thread, along with the Spanish CSC_HOME file, as Samsung Pay works in Spain now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/official-stock-firmware-update-odin-t3335065
Be sure to wipe the cache partition after upgrading.
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Want to confirm that pay will only work on un-rooted 935f and fd
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My understanding is that's correct. Once the Knox counter is tripped, Samsung Pay no longer works. Flashing a stock rom appears to be OK.
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Do you have any issue connecting to band 12?
If you don't mind, can you point me to the Samsung Pay thread for the FD?
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I don't have any issues with band 12 on my 935FD. Everything seems to be exactly as my Tmo Note 4.
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KEHT said:
I don't have any issues with band 12 on my 935FD. Everything seems to be exactly as my Tmo Note 4.
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Have you tried any of the firmware that has WiFi calling and can be set up for Samsung pay?
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Have you tried any of the firmware that has WiFi calling and can be set up for Samsung pay?
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Which firmwares are those exactly? As far as I know, WiFi calling isn't available on International version and I have my Knox tripped already.
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Which firmwares are those exactly? As far as I know, WiFi calling isn't available on International version and I have my Knox tripped already.
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There is a thread in the international section for setting up Samsung Pay on different firmwares - think there were references in it to firmwares that also had WiFi calling.
Update - think it was a CSC thread instead
tstolz33 said:
My understanding is that's correct. Once the Knox counter is tripped, Samsung Pay no longer works. Flashing a stock rom appears to be OK.
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Quick question about Samsung Pay. Once you trip Knox it's unusable forever or just until you run the stock ROM again?
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Want to confirm that pay will only work on un-rooted 935f and fd
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naruto.ninjakid said:
Quick question about Samsung Pay. Once you trip Knox it's unusable forever or just until you run the stock ROM again?
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Knox is forever. If not tripped, you can go back to official firmware and it will still work.
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Knox is forever. If not tripped, you can go back to official firmware and it will still work.
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So once you trip Knox Samsung Pay is forever gone? Lol that's crazy
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naruto.ninjakid said:
So once you trip Knox Samsung Pay is forever gone? Lol that's crazy
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That is apparently why %#$=<<&& Samsung also locked the bootloader in the US. I stopped using it for that reason even before I rooted - s___ them!
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gaww said:
That is apparently why %#$=<<&& Samsung also locked the bootloader in the US. I stopped using it for that reason even before I rooted - s___ them!
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This is why I always make it a point for me to never become too dependent upon something. Same thing with investing so much into a service where you can’t go without it. Eventually they will do something you don't like and you will have no choice but to accept what they want. I know root and android pay didn't mix so I won’t bother with Samsung pay either. I find it faster to pull out my wallet anyway or I prefer to pay with cash. Than to pull out my phone, login and start fiddling with it to pay. I'm looking to get a Note 7 and the only thing I hope is that the Iris scanner won’t be disabled when I root and Knox is voided. Other than that I never used knox for anything.
Samsung pay may play a reason in why Samsung Locked bootloaders in the US but i also think carriers are to blame. We know Verizon and AT&T do it for money and there business users and now T-Mobile has started. Even though T-Mobile claims it was Samsung i think they did it to stop people from tethering and hiding it using root. Remember they had wrote that article making rooters seem nefarious and stealing data lol. This could have played a role in them now locking their bootloaders to prevent root in my opinion.
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Hi, anybody got Samsung Pay working on the International Variant of the S7 / S7 Edge (G930F / G935F) in USA.
I flashed mine with UK firmware:- PDA (G935FXXU1APB4), CSC (G935FVIR1APB3)
Sideloaded :-
Samsung Pay Framework 2.1.06 (http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/samsun...ng-pay-framework-2-1-06-android-apk-download/)
Samsung Pay 1.7.04 (http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/samsun...ease/samsung-pay-1-7-04-android-apk-download/)
But I get this message :- "Failed to connect to server. Try again later."
Google Play says :- "This app is incompatible with all of your devices." (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.spay)
Note: I am using T-mobile with my phone.
Sorry if this is a duplicate post.
Thanks
If I install both .apk files it lets me get all the way up until the add card screen and once I take a picture it just infinitely loads.
Edit: I got past that by going into settings and giving Samsung Pay and Samsung Pay Framework all permissions asked. When I get to the screen where it's validating the card after the TOA it just gives me the server error.
Also if I try to use my fingerprint it just takes me back to the pin option screen, I can't proceed unless I use a pin
Note: I am using an AT&T MVNO (cricket)
It's not out yet in the UK and no card issuer currently supports it, it won't work until then.
So even though I am in US, I cannot use Samsung Pay.
I am feeling a little bit restricted here Samsung, as far as I knew, Samsung was not Apple. But now, its hard to say.
Zyxxeil said:
If I install both .apk files it lets me get all the way up until the add card screen and once I take a picture it just infinitely loads.
Edit: I got past that by going into settings and giving Samsung Pay and Samsung Pay Framework all permissions asked. When I get to the screen where it's validating the card after the TOA it just gives me the server error.
Also if I try to use my fingerprint it just takes me back to the pin option screen, I can't proceed unless I use a pin
Note: I am using an AT&T MVNO (cricket)
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Are you using international variant of S7
Yes
Yeah that's what I though. Wait until Samsung pay releases in the UK and then add my cards after. But it's sucks. It shouldn't be firmware attached. Oh Samsung.. Now debating if I should wait or just root and enjoy a rooted s7 edge
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For me, Samsung Pay is worth the wait
So I was about to buy an international Galaxy S7 Edge G935F to use with my AT&T line... but after checking here and there I couldn't find an answer for the Samsung Pay..even the customer support for the Samsung Pay said that they are only trained to answer questions for US vairants S7 only but they told me I can try install the app and see if it will work or not as it still only support in the US only, but they mentioned an update to come later but to certain markets..my biggest fear is that if it didn't reach the international version at all!!
osmosizzz said:
Yeah that's what I though. Wait until Samsung pay releases in the UK and then add my cards after. But it's sucks. It shouldn't be firmware attached. Oh Samsung.. Now debating if I should wait or just root and enjoy a rooted s7 edge
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I remember people saying this exact same thing with the international S6... and those people are still waiting LOL.
Root your device, I highly doubt samsung pay will be coming anytime soon.
Yes it sucks but you can still use Android pay in US.. That is widely supported by banks!!
Goronok said:
I remember people saying this exact same thing with the international S6... and those people are still waiting LOL.
Root your device, I highly doubt samsung pay will be coming anytime soon.
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That's what I'm thinking Yeah.
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mikereyes01 said:
Yes it sucks but you can still use Android pay in US.. That is widely supported by banks!!
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Yeah I can true. So fixated in Samsung pay, I forgot about android pay. I guess that's something
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Same issue here - no Samsung Pay on SMg935f
I've searched multiple forums and looks like we have to wait for an international firmware that Samsung opens up Pay on. Sigh
Flash tmobile firmware
Out of curiosity, would it be possible to flash the tmobile official firmware on an international s7 edge and be able to use samsung pay?
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expired_retired said:
Out of curiosity, would it be possible to flash the tmobile official firmware on an international s7 edge and be able to use samsung pay?
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No. The tmobile firmware has the snapdragon variant. We have the exynos. And even so, without root, Odin most likely wouldn't let us flash the tmobile firmware on an international device. US carriers think their versions of the phones firmware is sacred. Wish Samsung used it's size and just went the apple way. One variant, all carriers. One software the model no matter where it's sold
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No. The tmobile firmware has the snapdragon variant. We have the exynos. And even so, without root, Odin most likely wouldn't let us flash the tmobile firmware on an international device. US carriers think their versions of the phones firmware is sacred. Wish Samsung used it's size and just went the apple way. One variant, all carriers. One software the model no matter where it's sold
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Even with root you won't be able to run the T-Mobile firmware on it. Think of it as using a whole different architecture.
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Here in Brazil it's being sold the SM-G935F model but i got mine S7 on Canada (model SM-G935W8 ) ... so i'm guessing when the service debut here i'll have to wait to be also working on Canada?
That's stupid as ****, if you ask me. God damn samsung....
And by the way, i coudln't find 1 single diference in hardware betwen the SM-G935F and the SM-G935W8, so why the hell can't I flash the internacional model G935F on my phone?
I've never used these mobile payment apps but I've been interested in trying them out. I don't have an S7 yet but Samsung Pay was one of the things I was looking forward to.
Any thoughts on how Samsung Pay would compare to Android Pay? Do I lose a lot by using Android Pay over Samsung Pay?
johnusesandroid said:
I've never used these mobile payment apps but I've been interested in trying them out. I don't have an S7 yet but Samsung Pay was one of the things I was looking forward to.
Any thoughts on how Samsung Pay would compare to Android Pay? Do I lose a lot by using Android Pay over Samsung Pay?
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The only difference is that you lose the MST capability.
I have a stock (no root/nothing custom) SM-G935FD (dual sim edge) that I use with a single AT&T postpaid sim in the USA. I never had issues activating android pay unless the phone was rooted using a credit card with a US address. Now anytime I try to add a credit card on android pay, I get the error message that android pay cannot verify the integrity (or maybe compatibility, cannot remember the exact error message) of my current rom and doesn't let me activate. I know I used to get the error message on the rooted phones but all stock (no knox tripped etc) phone shouldn't give this message right? Btw, I tried this with stock UK and Arab Emirates roms (the latter is the original rom that came with it). There is no US based stock rom for this variant.
Seems like there is some sort of root maybe? Not sure but I've only seen that happen when there is root. I have root and Android pay and it works. Of course I set it up before I rooted the device.
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no root at all. Stock rom refreshed from smart switch just to make sure it is OK. That's why it is so random.
Is your display set to "Condensed?"
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Rydah805 said:
Is your display set to "Condensed?"
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Yes, it was. I can't believe that this was the issue. After going back to normal, the card added just fine. I will give it a try at whole foods to see whether it will go through and let you guys know.
Thanks. That's why I love Xda forums. There are definitely some knowledgeable people around
onurd said:
Yes, it was. I can't believe that this was the issue. After going back to normal, the card added just fine. I will give it a try at whole foods to see whether it will go through and let you guys know.
Thanks. That's why I love Xda forums. There are definitely some knowledgeable people around
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I don't really use Android Pay now that I have Samsung Pay, but I remember for giggles I tried to setup AP and got the same thing. Took a few days but yeah, wish Sammy would fix that... then again, the display scaling feature is hidden on my device.
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Rydah805 said:
I don't really use Android Pay now that I have Samsung Pay, but I remember for giggles I tried to setup AP and got the same thing. Took a few days but yeah, wish Sammy would fix that... then again, the display scaling feature is hidden on my device.
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I assume you have a US S7 Edge to be able to use Samsung Pay, am I correct?
onurd said:
I assume you have a US S7 Edge to be able to use Samsung Pay, am I correct?
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Yes, but I believe there are certain CSC's that support it.
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Yes, but I believe there are certain CSC's that support it.
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Which CSC's? I tried BTU (which is UK) and the original AFG with no luck. I don't think you can combine the AP file from a G935F with a CSC file from a G935T/A/V? Can you?
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Which CSC's? I tried BTU (which is UK) and the original AFG with no luck. I don't think you can combine the AP file from a G935F with a CSC file from a G935T/A/V? Can you?
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Think Canada (or maybe near future...?) and Singapore?
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Right now (just started looking into this) this seems like a no-brainer. Performance is much better and it's rooted!!!! I know you lose wifi calling in theory (although mine hasn't worked since I purchased it despite hours of troubleshooting and tweaking (sucks bc no coverage at home (rural)), but that can potentially be addressed by a custom rom? Thoughts?
I did the switch. Battery life is better. Speed difference is unnoticeable. Signal/Calling quality is fine. I would most likely switch back if root was available for the t-mobile model (but wouldn't if advanced calling was available for international).
Getting wifi calling + VOLTE + video calling is no small task if that matters to you (the S6's wifi calling was never ported to international models even though they shared the same chipset). It would take porting a qualcomm written csc to a exynos chipset and either porting t-mobile's custom ims implimentation or making the standard ims implimentation work with t-mobile. That being said, it has been done. The Galaxy S5 saw advanced calling from the S6 ported back, HTC's flagships have had wifi calling ported.
I had an international Note5 on T-Mobile's network. I hated not having WiFi calling and advanced messaging features and such. I was able to flash a ROM that included some of the lost features luckily, but that would not be the case here since the chipsets are different (at least not possible now). Additionally, for some reason the signal was always worse than my girlfriend's Note5 even when side-by-side. Consistently worse... I wouldn't deal with the hassle again.
hi, I switched too and I'm glad I did, battery is definitely better and I didn't notice performance differences (nor reception). I believe wifi calling hasn't been/can't be ported but some roms support VOLTE. Just be advised that samsung doesn't honor the warranty of international variants in the US hence insurance companies such as Upsie won't insure your device.
How do you switch?
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You have no warranty though, and Samsung Pay can be tricky to get working.
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Just got an international variant yesterday. Loving it but been struggling to change my CSC to one that supports Samsung Pay. I know the LYS CSC supports it and I've flashed it in Odin which reported success and did fine but upon using my device it didn't change my CSC. So confused as to why...
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Buy a 935F from ebay/swappa. Pay off your 935t, sell it on swappa/ebay.
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How do you switch?
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This is the first phone I've owned that I really haven't felt the need to root. I used to want to root to disable bloatware and to change the theme of the system which I can do on the S7 edge without root. Only thing I do miss is the ad blocking with root but that's a small annoyance that I can live it. Also with the T-Mobile version you get all the necessary bands for extended range LTE which is amazing here in the LA area. Everywhere I go I have solid LTE whether it's indoors or oudoors. I also just used Samsung pay yesterday for the first time at Sprouts grocery store and it worked so easily on the first try! This pay system is flawless. The old lady behind me had a surprised look on her face when I payed that way. Got a free $20 gift card from Samsung for using it for the first time. Just my personal opinion on why the carrier branded T-Mobile version is better.
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The international variant supports all the LTE bands supported by the tmobile one (and more) see http://www.phonemore.com/compare/ph...-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-sm-g935f-64gb/3305854
And the G935F connects fine to band 12
srod562 said:
This is the first phone I've owned that I really haven't felt the need to root. I used to want to root to disable bloatware and to change the theme of the system which I can do on the S7 edge without root. Only thing I do miss is the ad blocking with root but that's a small annoyance that I can live it. Also with the T-Mobile version you get all the necessary bands for extended range LTE which is amazing here in the LA area. Everywhere I go I have solid LTE whether it's indoors or oudoors. I also just used Samsung pay yesterday for the first time at Sprouts grocery store and it worked so easily on the first try! This pay system is flawless. The old lady behind me had a surprised look on her face when I payed that way. Got a free $20 gift card from Samsung for using it for the first time. Just my personal opinion on why the carrier branded T-Mobile version is better.
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This is my SM-935T Model phone two sim cards active okay..?
i bought it on ebay dual sim for 620$ shipped. its way snappier and the battery life is significantly better. i havent rooted it yet
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The international variant supports all the LTE bands supported by the tmobile one (and more) see http://www.phonemore.com/compare/ph...-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-sm-g935f-64gb/3305854
And the G935F connects fine to band 12
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Nitemare3219 said:
I had an international Note5 on T-Mobile's network. I hated not having WiFi calling and advanced messaging features and such. I was able to flash a ROM that included some of the lost features luckily, but that would not be the case here since the chipsets are different (at least not possible now). Additionally, for some reason the signal was always worse than my girlfriend's Note5 even when side-by-side. Consistently worse... I wouldn't deal with the hassle again.
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My experience with my international S6 was very similar to yours. I moved back to the states with it and signed up with T-mobile. In my gym, which is underground, I could barely get a 4G signal (or nothing at all). Emails and notifications wouldn't come through even when I was connected to 4G. I got the s7e on tmobile and although signal still isn't strong, notifications come through reliably.
Not too scientific as they are different phone models and I've never paid this observation too much mind but now that I've heard your story, I'm inclined to think that carrier specific models might be better at picking up signal on that carrier.
Been using international version for a while, returned my t-mobile version on the 20th day, by that time it was apparent to me that the t-mobile version would not be getting rooted anytime soon. In my opinion this device is much better rooted, especially since i like a lot of color schemes on my status bar and the Ads were driving me crazy. would've preferred a rooted t-mobile version, but a rooted international version is light years better than a stock version of any kind imo.
I'm on MID (Iraq)
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What CSC are you on?
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For my US and Canadian Friends - Do you guys think it's still worth buying the International F and FD models with no warranties in the US and Canada, and possible band incompatibility, now that the Sprint and ATT (T-Mobile coming up shortly) variants have Root via the EngBoot? Or you guys think that method will be patched soon enough and the future of Development and Root for the US and CA variants will be 0 to none like the S7 and S7E models?
Thanks for your input!
Root was the big reason for me, second is the updates. Don't know if international will get updates quicker or not because it doesn't have to go thru att first. I am also worried because I read a bunch of folks having trouble with the FD version, boot loops and the like and having to send in for repairs, seems like a bad experience.
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Root was the big reason for me, second is the updates. Don't know if international will get updates quicker or not because it doesn't have to go thru att first. I am also worried because I read a bunch of folks having trouble with the FD version, boot loops and the like and having to send in for repairs, seems like a bad experience.
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The true international models (by true I mean not international as in Indian models or something like that, but instead models not associated with any carrier) do get updates faster. Carrier updates take several months longer to come out.
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I have the N930fd model and I'm currently using it with cricket wireless and so far have had no issues. Samsung Pay worked out the box and the update was smooth.
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I have the N930fd model and I'm currently using it with cricket wireless and so far have had no issues. Samsung Pay worked out the box and the update was smooth.
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have you been getting any lag? I've been getting enough stuttering to make this note 7 at&t variant kind of annoying
I have the FD and so far so good, haven't had any issues with it . Using smart switch on the old device and the new one makes transferring the pic, documents, contacts and setting a breeze. It pretty much set up 90 percent of my settings in the phone.
I have not had any lag with the device, perhaps anyone that is should check the device manager to shut things down that they don't need.
I currently have my FD model running on a straight talk sim and ive not seen a drop in coverage weather it be voice or data.
lazygregg said:
have you been getting any lag? I've been getting enough stuttering to make this note 7 at&t variant kind of annoying
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No lag no issues whatsoever.
I have Note 5 and Note 9 and consider sell Note 5 and buy used Note FE for about 420$.
This decision is good in 2019? Maybe keep Note 5 because difference between Note 5 and FE isn't too big.
Thanks in advance.
I love my Note FE but here in the states it has never been reliable on LTE for voice calls or text messages. I run it on 3G/2G to get around that issue. There is a fix with S7 Edge files extracted from the ROM and flashed over to change the country specific code (csc) and enable VoLTE and WiFi calling, but that is no longer available with Pie.
Much love, but I would not buy one today.
All this is without root of course, but I've not been one to root phones the last couple of years.
Exact opposite for me. I use it on AT&T in United States and have no issues with 4g. Yes I am rooted.
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lazarom said:
I love my Note FE but here in the states it has never been reliable on LTE for voice calls or text messages. I run it on 3G/2G to get around that issue. There is a fix with S7 Edge files extracted from the ROM and flashed over to change the country specific code (csc) and enable VoLTE and WiFi calling, but that is no longer available with Pie.
Much love, but I would not buy one today.
All this is without root of course, but I've not been one to root phones the last couple of years.
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Any chance you are using T-Mobile? I am using my Note FE with T-Mobile in the US and have the same problems. I am on Pie and currently rooted, but the issue existed before. I hope that the Note 10 is actually worth upgrading to
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Exact opposite for me. I use it on AT&T in United States and have no issues with 4g. Yes I am rooted.
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I really like this phone. I have an S7 Edge as a hot standby AND an original Pixel XL also just sitting there. This has the best form factor and I dont want to give it up.
As such I've been seriously considering rooting all week. I may pull the trigger to the same ROM you are running (I found the thread) tonight or sometime this weekend. If / once I get it done, I will 'report back' on network performance soon.
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Any chance you are using T-Mobile? I am using my Note FE with T-Mobile in the US and have the same problems. I am on Pie and currently rooted, but the issue existed before. I hope that the Note 10 is actually worth upgrading to
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Technically I'm not on T-Mobile (I'm on SIMple Mobile) but it is "by T-Mobile" and uses their network. My friend has another Note 7 purchased at the same time in a different area of the country, and is on T-Mobile proper and has the same issues.
On Pie, I am using an app called "4g Fix" from the app store to switch to "WCDMA Preferred" and that solves the phone/text issue with LTE, by disabling LTE. :\
Going to try rooting and running "superfast9" https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...-superfast9-stable-note-7-fe-android-t3921332
Edit: On Oreo, I used to mitigate the issue by loading in the CSC file from my S7 Edge. I tried that on Pie but it doesnt work and won't enable VoLTE.
The best way I found was to Odin back Oreo, if Prenormal exist do the changing date trick in and to activate OEM unlock. Then intall TWRP..root..then flash rom.
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The best way I found was to Odin back Oreo, if Prenormal exist do the changing date trick in and to activate OEM unlock. Then intall TWRP..root..then flash rom.
SM-N935F NoteFE Superfast9 Rom
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Ty for the heads up on stupid PreNormal (so many times I waited a week until I learned about the date trick!) and advice, its much appreciated. I'm inspired and am running a full backup.
Hope you get everything up and running, if you need anything I will help as much as I can[emoji106]
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Are you up and running?
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Any chance you are using T-Mobile? I am using my Note FE with T-Mobile in the US and have the same problems. I am on Pie and currently rooted, but the issue existed before. I hope that the Note 10 is actually worth upgrading to
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I'm testing a customized version of Superfast9 with the TMO csc (osc, technically) from the S8 built in. So far I have VoLTE and WiFi calling and once I'm sure that "weird LTE telephony intermittent connectivity" truly isn't happening, and the original author has OK'd it, I will share it.
@butchieboy Totally, with VoLTE and WiFi Calling too.
I dont have wife calling..volte yes but no wifi calling. Tried to activate it with shortcut master but didnt work
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Im on At&t
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I'm testing a customized version of Superfast9 with the TMO csc (osc, technically) from the S8 built in. So far I have VoLTE and WiFi calling and once I'm sure that "weird LTE telephony intermittent connectivity" truly isn't happening, and the original author has OK'd it, I will share it.
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Awesome! I am excited to get volte working.
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Awesome! I am excited to get volte working.
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Its working great. I'm uploading it onto google drive and will privately send you a link shortly for testing purposes.
I got everything working. Used CSC from TWIZtd Note 8 rom, have Volte..wifi calling..advanced messages..and enhanced LTE services
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