Hi guys here's my Xiaomi Mi Max Review. This is a full review, covering everything. Please skip to the section of the video that interests you most.
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00:52 - Design And Build
02:30 - Size comparison
03:14 - Screen and Sunlight Test
03:52 - ROM & MIUI 7
07:58 - Browser Test
09:16 - Benchmarks
10:56 - Play Store & eBook Test
11:57 - Live GPS Test
12:15 - Quick Charge Support & Times
13:56 - Battery Life
15:19 - Hybrid SIM Tray
16:01 - Fingerprint Reader
16:59 - Cameras With Samples
20:42 - Audio
22:56 - Gaming
25:42 - Surface Temps
26:42 - Conclusion
27:38 - Pros and Cons
Camera samples:
Photos are sharp, good amount of detailed captured. But it's poor at low-light like most if not all Chinese mobiles in this price range.
Video sample (4k, 30fps):
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Overall I really like this phone, it has a great 1080p panel that is bright, at 6.44" it's perfect for media consumption. The build is good, amazing battery life thanks to the 4850mAh battery. Great audio quality.
My only complaints are obvious, it's huge and hard to pocket. The 4k video quality is good, but some artifacts and very poor in low light.
If you're after a very large phone that offers great battery life with an okay camera and excellent screen. This Mi Max is worth a look.
Thanks a lot for this review!
Extremely helpful and really well done!
I just order a mi max 32go.?
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Thank you for the review.
Can you clarify the video recording format for 2160p and 1080p resolution: h.264 or h.265?
Is available [email protected] as recording format?
Thank you again.
Best regards,
cdr
This is the reason why i bought mi max. Awesome review!
is camera better than redmi note 3 pro?
Related
Here is a video I made comparing newly purchased Oppo to my previous device.
Oppo Find 5 VS HTC Sensation
Oppo Find 5 - Stock Camera (Firmware 130221)
Resolution: 1080p
bitrate10-12mbps
FPS: 30 (Normal) (23+ on HDR video)
HTC Sensation - HQ Camera By NODO-GT (me)
Resolution: 1080p
bitrate: 38-40mbps
FPS: 30
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Oppo Advantages:
*Image Stabilization
*More natural colors
*HDR mode
Oppo Disadvantages:
*Lower Details
*Low sound volume
*HDR mode suffers from FPS drops
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Just Rooted my Oppo, so soon I'll try to tweak the camera as much as I can. Hope I'll be able to make something as popular I did for Sensation.
P.S. - Stock Camera really Sucks Will post stills comparisons too later, Too tired after skiing
Hey,
Coming from a custom Note 2 this thing eats everything alive. I have posted a quick article on my G+ with initial day 1 thoughts on audio/video and generally comparing it against Note 2. Take a look if you want: https://plus.google.com/u/0/110518768053945426802/posts/A67qR4TjCwL
Also 4k video:
Remember to select "Original" quality
I played this on my 4k monitor and it looked really good!
1440P for me for the time being, 4k is too expensive
Is a pitty that Samsung divide their devices between Snapdragon and the crappy Exynos 5. Unfortunately in my country I will receive the Exynos version of $amsung Galaxy Note 3, that only record videos in 1080p.
my 4k video test , remember to select Original in Playback Quality
Both of these are really, really good!
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robbiekhan said:
Hey,
Coming from a custom Note 2 this thing eats everything alive. I have posted a quick article on my G+ with initial day 1 thoughts on audio/video and generally comparing it against Note 2. Take a look if you want: https://plus.google.com/u/0/110518768053945426802/posts/A67qR4TjCwL
Also 4k video:
Remember to select "Original" quality
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Is it windy? I imagine from the location it is, but the wind noise is nowhere near as bad as the Note 1
in my video, i have audio zoom enabled, so it was zooming in on diff sounds from the sorrounding....without it would have been much better i guess...
what size was the video on the phone?
The audio Zoom option is greyed out if you choose 4k resolution so will use normal audio for that res. It was windy in my video yeah although not too bad. Wind noise is controlled quite well and the mics are better than on the Note 2
10 sec video was 52mb in size
Hi all,
I've had my Xiaomi RedMi Note 2 for a while now and thought I would share my video review and hands on unboxing videos:
Unboxing:
Hands-on gaming, benchmarks, thoughts, opinions.
Overall this is definitely one of the best bang for you buck mobile phones around. The Mediatek 6795 Helio X10 runs great and the GPU is fastest enough for even the most demanding games. LTE/4G is crazy fast for me, I had never got 75mbps speeds before, not even on my LG G4. which caps at around 50mbps for me. The screen looks great and there isn't much to not like on this mobile. The 13MP camera is good in anything but low light and macros come out amazing (see my samples). What I find disappointing is the sound on video and in lower light the video frame rate drops below 30fps. Indoor low light shots are very average.
The phone has now been passed on to my wife and she loves it, complete overkill for her needs. MIUI also might not be for everyone. And the build is very plastic and cheap feeling compared to metal framed phones. I got it from GearBest here: http://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_229217.html
Day video sample (1080p):
Sunset (1080p):
Night video (1080p)
Camera samples:
Like on my Note 4 I get over 120 Mbit/s over LTE but Wifi, GPS and 2G/3G/4G is 2-3 times better than on my Note 4. Sometimes I can't belive this.
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The foliage looks really washed out on those samples, was it windy or does it really do such a poor job? The rest of the samples seem really decent for the price.
Crim Soukyuu said:
The foliage looks really washed out on those samples, was it windy or does it really do such a poor job? The rest of the samples seem really decent for the price.
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It was windy and low light in some of the later shots. Low light pictures are not good at all.
I think that lack of optical stabilization makes video recording really bad. I think that the quality is descent, but the everything is kind of up and down all the time, a little cranky.....
MIUI 7 Slow motion samples:
MIUI 7 Time lapse samples:
Thanks mate. Can it does slower than this?
Nope. There's no other settings for slow mo.
TziMmysGr said:
I think that lack of optical stabilization makes video recording really bad. I think that the quality is descent, but the everything is kind of up and down all the time, a little cranky.....
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Definitely I have a G4 and now a Note 5, I miss OIS, even DIS would help out here. The quality is good, but the audio is a bit washed out. But still for a $165 dollar mobile it's decent.
Hi,
could you test HEVC encoding capabilities for us, it's a little tricky, only "CINEMA FV5" app could support HEVC encoding for the moment, and if you can test [email protected] and [email protected] and Manual Focus as well it will be great, thanks in adavance
Very nice review and some of the only slow motion footage on youtube, thanks! :good:
So I've had my hands on the Mi5S since Monday, putting it through my paces as a previous Mi5 owner I can confirm the build to me feels better, wit the new alloy rear housing it feels more solid in hand, but quite as slippery as the glass backed Mi 5S.
Here is my review and unboxing:
Mi5S unboxing:
Mi5S camera Vs S6 Edge+
Key findings:
The lack of OIS on the camera results in poor video without DIS which only works in 1080p. The DIS in 1080p doesn't do a bad job, but the video still suffers from a very slow audio bitrate of 96kbps. And the bitrate of 41Mbps for 4k results in some compression artifacts in video. Autofocus is often all over the place too.
The camera can take a decent image as seen in my review, but low light performance is quite poor as good as my Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge+. The only way to get a decent night shot is using a tripod and manaul settings, even then it's full of noise and oversharpening.
Xiaomi's Mi5S camera press video teaser shows everyone using tripods lol! And I believe the images have been massively touched up.
On to the positives, continual use I got over 8 hours of screen on time and a PCMark battery score of 9 hours and 59 minutes which is around 1 hour more than the Mi5. Real life use about 4-5 hours screen on time and two days for me.
The UFS 2.0 storage is super quick, 400mb/s reads and 170 MB/s writes. Now that is super fast for a mobile. This combined with the Qualcomm snapdragon 821 makes the phone super quick and smooth. No lag detected all games seem to run around 60 fps thanks to the Adreno 530 and 1080p screen you need not worry about lag. Multitasking isn't the greatest, after a while the aggressive battery savings will kill background apps. So often switching apps results in the app reloading.
The ultrasonic fingerprint reader works well, just as fast as the Mi5. I guess the benefit is without a physical button it will be much more reliable. And yes it works if your finger is damp, not that the phone is water proof!
So Mi5 owners, I wouldn't upgrade to this model. No real point unless you want a higher benchmark score. And if you want to get this phone get it for the speed, build, screen and battery. NOT for it's video quality as you'll be very disappointed.
More details are in my video review including benchmarks. I'll have the Mi5S Plus next week to review and later the Le Pro 3 another Snapdragon 821.
Excellent work Hendrickson! Thank you very much!
For a new phone/not an upgrade do you prefer Mi5s over Mi5? What do you think about scratch resistance, a protection case is mandatory like on Mi5?
It looks like one advantage of Mi5s is that if we substitute the metal case, only front lcd scratches subsists because lateral side belongs to the case isn't it?
Hendrickson said:
So I've had my hands on the Mi5S since Monday, putting it through my paces as a previous Mi5 owner I can confirm the build to me feels better, wit the new alloy rear housing it feels more solid in hand, but quite as slippery as the glass backed Mi 5S.
Here is my review and unboxing:
Mi5S unboxing:
Mi5S camera Vs S6 Edge+
Key findings:
The lack of OIS on the camera results in poor video without DIS which only works in 1080p. The DIS in 1080p doesn't do a bad job, but the video still suffers from a very slow audio bitrate of 96kbps. And the bitrate of 41Mbps for 4k results in some compression artifacts in video. Autofocus is often all over the place too.
The camera can take a decent image as seen in my review, but low light performance is quite poor as good as my Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge+. The only way to get a decent night shot is using a tripod and manaul settings, even then it's full of noise and oversharpening.
Xiaomi's Mi5S camera press video teaser shows everyone using tripods lol! And I believe the images have been massively touched up.
On to the positives, continual use I got over 8 hours of screen on time and a PCMark battery score of 9 hours and 59 minutes which is around 1 hour more than the Mi5. Real life use about 4-5 hours screen on time and two days for me.
The UFS 2.0 storage is super quick, 400mb/s reads and 170 MB/s writes. Now that is super fast for a mobile. This combined with the Qualcomm snapdragon 821 makes the phone super quick and smooth. No lag detected all games seem to run around 60 fps thanks to the Adreno 530 and 1080p screen you need not worry about lag. Multitasking isn't the greatest, after a while the aggressive battery savings will kill background apps. So often switching apps results in the app reloading.
The ultrasonic fingerprint reader works well, just as fast as the Mi5. I guess the benefit is without a physical button it will be much more reliable. And yes it works if your finger is damp, not that the phone is water proof!
So Mi5 owners, I wouldn't upgrade to this model. No real point unless you want a higher benchmark score. And if you want to get this phone get it for the speed, build, screen and battery. NOT for it's video quality as you'll be very disappointed.
More details are in my video review including benchmarks. I'll have the Mi5S Plus next week to review and later the Le Pro 3 another Snapdragon 821.
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Could you pull all the files starting with libmmcamera_imx in /system/vendor/lib no root required
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@Hendrickson thanks for the vids. I was set on buying the 5s but probably won't now. Can you do a comparison with mi5 camera?
What are your thoughts on Zuk Z2 Pro?
BPSoft said:
Excellent work Hendrickson! Thank you very much!
For a new phone/not an upgrade do you prefer Mi5s over Mi5? What do you think about scratch resistance, a protection case is mandatory like on Mi5?
It looks like one advantage of Mi5s is that if we substitute the metal case, only front lcd scratches subsists because lateral side belongs to the case isn't it?
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MI5S for the metal rear, it doesn't get slimy and as slippery.
defcomg said:
Could you pull all the files starting with libmmcamera_imx in /system/vendor/lib no root required
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Please show me how to do this without root?
ermacwins said:
@Hendrickson thanks for the vids. I was set on buying the 5s but probably won't now. Can you do a comparison with mi5 camera?
What are your thoughts on Zuk Z2 Pro?
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I would but i sold my Mi5. I'll do a Mi5S Plus and GS7 comparison.
Well it's obvious GS7 will be better. Have you played around with the Zuk Z2 Pro?
Hendrickson said:
MI5S for the metal rear, it doesn't get slimy and as slippery.
Please show me how to do this without root?
I would but i sold my Mi5. I'll do a Mi5S Plus and GS7 comparison.
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1) via adb pull /system/vendor/lib
2) via root explorer or Es File Explorer
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Thanks for the review. I have one small question. Can it play HEVC x265 1080p 10bit & 2160p 10bit videos with video bitrate higher than 25mbps in HW & HW+ mode on MXPlayer? Also if it does then on just chines rom or global rom also?
husaintaherali said:
Thanks for the review. I have one small question. Can it play HEVC x265 1080p 10bit & 2160p 10bit videos with video bitrate higher than 25mbps in HW & HW+ mode on MXPlayer? Also if it does then on just chines rom or global rom also?
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I read somewhere 821 or Mi 5s supports HEVC (x265) 4k, so I'm sure it'll be able to handle it
shaneel1491 said:
I read somewhere 821 or Mi 5s supports HEVC (x265) 4k, so I'm sure it'll be able to handle it
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Yes it supports HEVC but most oem dont implement the feature in ROMs so we r forced to play in SW mode which is slow.
Impressive good job, thank you
Great review. Thanks for that. Question; would you say the cam is worse, the same or better than the regular MI5? Thanks!
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Third party camera apps.
That's a great review. Were you able to run any third party camera apps or Google camera app (marshmallow build). The manual camera compatibility app would be a good way to check camera 2 api support which most of these apps require. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.vipek.camera2_compatibility_test
If that doesn't work and you are feeling adventurous you could try the build.prop edit via adb or root which worked for mi5. The aim is to find out if only mi's camera app is at fault here since it has the same specs as the pixel and yet compares so poorly with other phones.
Hendrickson said:
So I've had my hands on the Mi5S since Monday, putting it through my paces as a previous Mi5 owner I can confirm the build to me feels better, wit the new alloy rear housing it feels more solid in hand, but quite as slippery as the glass backed Mi 5S.
Here is my review and unboxing:
Mi5S unboxing:
Mi5S camera Vs S6 Edge+
Key findings:
The lack of OIS on the camera results in poor video without DIS which only works in 1080p. The DIS in 1080p doesn't do a bad job, but the video still suffers from a very slow audio bitrate of 96kbps. And the bitrate of 41Mbps for 4k results in some compression artifacts in video. Autofocus is often all over the place too.
The camera can take a decent image as seen in my review, but low light performance is quite poor as good as my Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge+. The only way to get a decent night shot is using a tripod and manaul settings, even then it's full of noise and oversharpening.
Xiaomi's Mi5S camera press video teaser shows everyone using tripods lol! And I believe the images have been massively touched up.
On to the positives, continual use I got over 8 hours of screen on time and a PCMark battery score of 9 hours and 59 minutes which is around 1 hour more than the Mi5. Real life use about 4-5 hours screen on time and two days for me.
The UFS 2.0 storage is super quick, 400mb/s reads and 170 MB/s writes. Now that is super fast for a mobile. This combined with the Qualcomm snapdragon 821 makes the phone super quick and smooth. No lag detected all games seem to run around 60 fps thanks to the Adreno 530 and 1080p screen you need not worry about lag. Multitasking isn't the greatest, after a while the aggressive battery savings will kill background apps. So often switching apps results in the app reloading.
The ultrasonic fingerprint reader works well, just as fast as the Mi5. I guess the benefit is without a physical button it will be much more reliable. And yes it works if your finger is damp, not that the phone is water proof!
So Mi5 owners, I wouldn't upgrade to this model. No real point unless you want a higher benchmark score. And if you want to get this phone get it for the speed, build, screen and battery. NOT for it's video quality as you'll be very disappointed.
More details are in my video review including benchmarks. I'll have the Mi5S Plus next week to review and later the Le Pro 3 another Snapdragon 821.
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Pixel camera App?
Do you tried the leaked camera app apk from pixel phones? They've got similar hardware and maybe it could improve photos and videos quality
It won't work. The pixel camera requires Nougat.
stoker595 said:
Do you tried the leaked camera app apk from pixel phones? They've got similar hardware and maybe it could improve photos and videos quality
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myvijay said:
It won't work. The pixel camera requires Nougat.
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Doh, I hope in Xiaomi to improve their camera software ASAP. I pretty like this phone...
what about audio quality from headphones? what about dac?
if we install pixel camera app on mi5s ( after android 7 update ), will hdr+ work? or it needs some other requirements like special camera firmware or special Image Processor ?
hdr+ in pixel phones takes and combines several pics in low light situations to produce better photos and reduce noise.
i think hdr+ will not work and quality of photos taken with pixel camera app will be like stock camera app or other 3rd party apps.
defcomg said:
Could you pull all the files starting with libmmcamera_imx in /system/vendor/lib no root required
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@defcomg , I've pulled them from current China Developer ROM (6.10.13). Hope that helps. (I don't own the phone!)
s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=09777612282974640057 -> libmmcamera_imx.zip (Apparently I can't attach files yet)
s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=49016282409257723878 -> libmm.lst
I was also wondering if
1) Camera DSP code and image processing algorithms can be updated by software and that may make a difference (I don't know how this things exactly work)
2) Xiaomi is willing to do so in future updates
salehe said:
@defcomg , I've pulled them from current China Developer ROM (6.10.13). Hope that helps. (I don't own the phone!)
s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=64931846989238561549 -> libmmcamera_imx.zip (Apparently I can't attach files yet)
s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=49016282409257723878 -> libmm.lst
I was also wondering if
1) Camera DSP code and image processing algorithms can be updated by software and that may make a difference (I don't know how this things exactly work)
2) Xiaomi is willing to do so in future updates
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Thanks for the files.
1. Yes the Post Processing Algorithms are updatable the files contains the _CPP suffix contain post processing parameters.
2. This I don't know few OEM's actually ever update camera calibration after the device has been released .
Its possible to get post processing algorithms from another device or adjust them via hex editing if one has time
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By the way both links have the same file
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Hye there guys.
Did anybody have the same issue as mine, that when I start to record a video, there will be
some micro stutters about 2-3 seconds. After that it will be gone, but when I wanna start
a new recording, it will be back again.
I know I can try to use other apps to record videos, but for me stock camera gave the best stabilization.
So, anybody have solution to this?
I'm experiencing the same issue, although I believe it is related to the poor software optimization of MIUI.
Hi, same here with Mi 9T. The worst case is recording video in 4K, with a lot of stutters here and there. Some solutions?
Shocking 4k video quality some videos are just unplayable
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Also really rubbish slo mo 120/240 not smooth
Sigh. A little bit of relief knowing I'm not the only one. But then this is a global issue, Xiaomi should acknowledge it and
provide solution via updates. So far I still didn't see any camera optimizations from updates that I've received.
Install Google Camera and use it foir everything other than 48M photos. It gives decent 4K videos but don't expect much. You won't see stuttering but fast moving object will bend basically. Kind of like the pencil trick where you hold a pencil horizontally and move it up and down and it seems to bend like if it's made of rubber. It's a $300 phone so..
the processor is pretty weak video-wise so you should've spent your money on 9T Pro for video capabilities
vandal4e said:
the processor is pretty weak video-wise so you should've spent your money on 9T Pro for video capabilities
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Your talking rubbish pal my previous phone was the 3a XL with the lesser Snapdragon 675 and handled 4k with perfect eis and also before that a mi max 3 which also could do the same with the 636.
Please show evidence next time instead of saying you should of spent more money
And the 1080p 60fps lack of auto focus ..
sutty86 said:
Your talking rubbish pal my previous phone was the 3a XL with the lesser Snapdragon 675 and handled 4k with perfect eis and also before that a mi max 3 which also could do the same with the 636.
Please show evidence next time instead of saying you should of spent more money
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True. For me the software optimization is the real issue here.
Camera app also lack of good auto focus where sometimes it kept hunting for focus.
So for me the camera app is still not that mature to provide users with perfect camera experience.
It is not about the price. It is about the app quality.