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When I first picked up my Galaxy s7 Edge on Sprint, I wrote a post about poor quality, lack of stability, and a lot of people told me I was imagining it, or put it down to YouTube. Now watch this...
https://youtu.be/gF_PRYBFS84
That is a video I took in FHD60 (i.e. 1080p and 60 frames per second) - skip forward to 8 seconds. Unacceptable isn't the word. I should add, most of the time it's not as bad as this - usually just a really jarring stutter, but it's done this a few times,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnRAHEE-nB4
This one is 4K. Not as bad on the face of it, but the weird motion blurring and blockiness present is ...well, it doesn't feel very 4K. I also experience some skips/frame drops when filming in this mode.
I took approx 130 10-30 second videos over the weekend and skipping is present in most of them. I've even got to the point where I try and film everything twice (panning across a landscape) so i can hopefully minimize the likelihood of skipping.
This is my second S7 edge, after the first one developed a dead pixel within the first 2 weeks. I've updated the firmware to G935PVPU2APD3.
From what I've read online in forums, one user claimed that on a live chat , Samsung are refusing to admit it publicly, but there is nothing they can do to improve it. I believe this is a problem mainly with the US Snapdragon 820 chip - but I dunno, it could be an issue with the International version too - either way, I'm not happy but it looks like we have to put up with it.
CTIGUK said:
When I first picked up my Galaxy s7 Edge on Sprint, I wrote a post about poor quality, lack of stability, and a lot of people told me I was imagining it, or put it down to YouTube. Now watch this...
https://youtu.be/gF_PRYBFS84
That is a video I took in FHD60 (i.e. 1080p and 60 frames per second) - skip forward to 8 seconds. Unacceptable isn't the word. I should add, most of the time it's not as bad as this - usually just a really jarring stutter, but it's done this a few times,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnRAHEE-nB4
This one is 4K. Not as bad on the face of it, but the weird motion blurring and blockiness present is ...well, it doesn't feel very 4K. I also experience some skips/frame drops when filming in this mode.
I took approx 130 10-30 second videos over the weekend and skipping is present in most of them. I've even got to the point where I try and film everything twice (panning across a landscape) so i can hopefully minimize the likelihood of skipping.
This is my second S7 edge, after the first one developed a dead pixel within the first 2 weeks. I've updated the firmware to G935PVPU2APD3.
From what I've read online in forums, one user claimed that on a live chat , Samsung are refusing to admit it publicly, but there is nothing they can do to improve it. I believe this is a problem mainly with the US Snapdragon 820 chip - but I dunno, it could be an issue with the International version too - either way, I'm not happy but it looks like we have to put up with it.
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What is your Camera Chip?
Mine is: SLSI_S5K2L1_FIMC_IS
Exynos Version
To find out, download Aida64, go to Devices and see Rear-Facing Camera Section
dave7802 said:
What is your Camera Chip?
Mine is: SLSI_S5K2L1_FIMC_IS
Exynos Version
To find out, download Aida64, go to Devices and see Rear-Facing Camera Section
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Hi Dave,
I have the Snapdragon 820 processor and camera is SONY_IMX260
I've seen pieces online that say the Snapdragon fares worse than the Exynos in terms of performance, so it could be only really noticeable on those phones
Indeed, am no pro snapper so I cannot comment.
But the picture quality has been perfect on my device.
Am going to try this recording on the way home in the car now though (something i have yet to do)
I'll upload to YouTube for you to view if you like.
Any specific settings you used?
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dave7802 said:
Indeed, am no pro snapper so I cannot comment.
But the picture quality has been perfect on my device.
Am going to try this recording on the way home in the car now though (something i have yet to do)
I'll upload to YouTube for you to view if you like.
Any specific settings you used?
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It happens with FHD60 most commonly. Panning the camera makes it most notable... that's pretty much it!
Just a question.. you are recording internally or on sdcard?
I don't think there's any way that is a hardware issue. Seems like something is going way wrong with the video recording on the software level - I'd be money it is digital stabilization going haywire. Was that turned off? If so, maybe it's broken.
So I've had my hands on the Mi5S since Monday, putting it through my paces as a previous Mi5 owner I can confirm the build to me feels better, wit the new alloy rear housing it feels more solid in hand, but quite as slippery as the glass backed Mi 5S.
Here is my review and unboxing:
Mi5S unboxing:
Mi5S camera Vs S6 Edge+
Key findings:
The lack of OIS on the camera results in poor video without DIS which only works in 1080p. The DIS in 1080p doesn't do a bad job, but the video still suffers from a very slow audio bitrate of 96kbps. And the bitrate of 41Mbps for 4k results in some compression artifacts in video. Autofocus is often all over the place too.
The camera can take a decent image as seen in my review, but low light performance is quite poor as good as my Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge+. The only way to get a decent night shot is using a tripod and manaul settings, even then it's full of noise and oversharpening.
Xiaomi's Mi5S camera press video teaser shows everyone using tripods lol! And I believe the images have been massively touched up.
On to the positives, continual use I got over 8 hours of screen on time and a PCMark battery score of 9 hours and 59 minutes which is around 1 hour more than the Mi5. Real life use about 4-5 hours screen on time and two days for me.
The UFS 2.0 storage is super quick, 400mb/s reads and 170 MB/s writes. Now that is super fast for a mobile. This combined with the Qualcomm snapdragon 821 makes the phone super quick and smooth. No lag detected all games seem to run around 60 fps thanks to the Adreno 530 and 1080p screen you need not worry about lag. Multitasking isn't the greatest, after a while the aggressive battery savings will kill background apps. So often switching apps results in the app reloading.
The ultrasonic fingerprint reader works well, just as fast as the Mi5. I guess the benefit is without a physical button it will be much more reliable. And yes it works if your finger is damp, not that the phone is water proof!
So Mi5 owners, I wouldn't upgrade to this model. No real point unless you want a higher benchmark score. And if you want to get this phone get it for the speed, build, screen and battery. NOT for it's video quality as you'll be very disappointed.
More details are in my video review including benchmarks. I'll have the Mi5S Plus next week to review and later the Le Pro 3 another Snapdragon 821.
Excellent work Hendrickson! Thank you very much!
For a new phone/not an upgrade do you prefer Mi5s over Mi5? What do you think about scratch resistance, a protection case is mandatory like on Mi5?
It looks like one advantage of Mi5s is that if we substitute the metal case, only front lcd scratches subsists because lateral side belongs to the case isn't it?
Hendrickson said:
So I've had my hands on the Mi5S since Monday, putting it through my paces as a previous Mi5 owner I can confirm the build to me feels better, wit the new alloy rear housing it feels more solid in hand, but quite as slippery as the glass backed Mi 5S.
Here is my review and unboxing:
Mi5S unboxing:
Mi5S camera Vs S6 Edge+
Key findings:
The lack of OIS on the camera results in poor video without DIS which only works in 1080p. The DIS in 1080p doesn't do a bad job, but the video still suffers from a very slow audio bitrate of 96kbps. And the bitrate of 41Mbps for 4k results in some compression artifacts in video. Autofocus is often all over the place too.
The camera can take a decent image as seen in my review, but low light performance is quite poor as good as my Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge+. The only way to get a decent night shot is using a tripod and manaul settings, even then it's full of noise and oversharpening.
Xiaomi's Mi5S camera press video teaser shows everyone using tripods lol! And I believe the images have been massively touched up.
On to the positives, continual use I got over 8 hours of screen on time and a PCMark battery score of 9 hours and 59 minutes which is around 1 hour more than the Mi5. Real life use about 4-5 hours screen on time and two days for me.
The UFS 2.0 storage is super quick, 400mb/s reads and 170 MB/s writes. Now that is super fast for a mobile. This combined with the Qualcomm snapdragon 821 makes the phone super quick and smooth. No lag detected all games seem to run around 60 fps thanks to the Adreno 530 and 1080p screen you need not worry about lag. Multitasking isn't the greatest, after a while the aggressive battery savings will kill background apps. So often switching apps results in the app reloading.
The ultrasonic fingerprint reader works well, just as fast as the Mi5. I guess the benefit is without a physical button it will be much more reliable. And yes it works if your finger is damp, not that the phone is water proof!
So Mi5 owners, I wouldn't upgrade to this model. No real point unless you want a higher benchmark score. And if you want to get this phone get it for the speed, build, screen and battery. NOT for it's video quality as you'll be very disappointed.
More details are in my video review including benchmarks. I'll have the Mi5S Plus next week to review and later the Le Pro 3 another Snapdragon 821.
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Could you pull all the files starting with libmmcamera_imx in /system/vendor/lib no root required
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@Hendrickson thanks for the vids. I was set on buying the 5s but probably won't now. Can you do a comparison with mi5 camera?
What are your thoughts on Zuk Z2 Pro?
BPSoft said:
Excellent work Hendrickson! Thank you very much!
For a new phone/not an upgrade do you prefer Mi5s over Mi5? What do you think about scratch resistance, a protection case is mandatory like on Mi5?
It looks like one advantage of Mi5s is that if we substitute the metal case, only front lcd scratches subsists because lateral side belongs to the case isn't it?
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MI5S for the metal rear, it doesn't get slimy and as slippery.
defcomg said:
Could you pull all the files starting with libmmcamera_imx in /system/vendor/lib no root required
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Please show me how to do this without root?
ermacwins said:
@Hendrickson thanks for the vids. I was set on buying the 5s but probably won't now. Can you do a comparison with mi5 camera?
What are your thoughts on Zuk Z2 Pro?
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I would but i sold my Mi5. I'll do a Mi5S Plus and GS7 comparison.
Well it's obvious GS7 will be better. Have you played around with the Zuk Z2 Pro?
Hendrickson said:
MI5S for the metal rear, it doesn't get slimy and as slippery.
Please show me how to do this without root?
I would but i sold my Mi5. I'll do a Mi5S Plus and GS7 comparison.
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1) via adb pull /system/vendor/lib
2) via root explorer or Es File Explorer
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Thanks for the review. I have one small question. Can it play HEVC x265 1080p 10bit & 2160p 10bit videos with video bitrate higher than 25mbps in HW & HW+ mode on MXPlayer? Also if it does then on just chines rom or global rom also?
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Thanks for the review. I have one small question. Can it play HEVC x265 1080p 10bit & 2160p 10bit videos with video bitrate higher than 25mbps in HW & HW+ mode on MXPlayer? Also if it does then on just chines rom or global rom also?
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I read somewhere 821 or Mi 5s supports HEVC (x265) 4k, so I'm sure it'll be able to handle it
shaneel1491 said:
I read somewhere 821 or Mi 5s supports HEVC (x265) 4k, so I'm sure it'll be able to handle it
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Yes it supports HEVC but most oem dont implement the feature in ROMs so we r forced to play in SW mode which is slow.
Impressive good job, thank you
Great review. Thanks for that. Question; would you say the cam is worse, the same or better than the regular MI5? Thanks!
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Third party camera apps.
That's a great review. Were you able to run any third party camera apps or Google camera app (marshmallow build). The manual camera compatibility app would be a good way to check camera 2 api support which most of these apps require. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.vipek.camera2_compatibility_test
If that doesn't work and you are feeling adventurous you could try the build.prop edit via adb or root which worked for mi5. The aim is to find out if only mi's camera app is at fault here since it has the same specs as the pixel and yet compares so poorly with other phones.
Hendrickson said:
So I've had my hands on the Mi5S since Monday, putting it through my paces as a previous Mi5 owner I can confirm the build to me feels better, wit the new alloy rear housing it feels more solid in hand, but quite as slippery as the glass backed Mi 5S.
Here is my review and unboxing:
Mi5S unboxing:
Mi5S camera Vs S6 Edge+
Key findings:
The lack of OIS on the camera results in poor video without DIS which only works in 1080p. The DIS in 1080p doesn't do a bad job, but the video still suffers from a very slow audio bitrate of 96kbps. And the bitrate of 41Mbps for 4k results in some compression artifacts in video. Autofocus is often all over the place too.
The camera can take a decent image as seen in my review, but low light performance is quite poor as good as my Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge+. The only way to get a decent night shot is using a tripod and manaul settings, even then it's full of noise and oversharpening.
Xiaomi's Mi5S camera press video teaser shows everyone using tripods lol! And I believe the images have been massively touched up.
On to the positives, continual use I got over 8 hours of screen on time and a PCMark battery score of 9 hours and 59 minutes which is around 1 hour more than the Mi5. Real life use about 4-5 hours screen on time and two days for me.
The UFS 2.0 storage is super quick, 400mb/s reads and 170 MB/s writes. Now that is super fast for a mobile. This combined with the Qualcomm snapdragon 821 makes the phone super quick and smooth. No lag detected all games seem to run around 60 fps thanks to the Adreno 530 and 1080p screen you need not worry about lag. Multitasking isn't the greatest, after a while the aggressive battery savings will kill background apps. So often switching apps results in the app reloading.
The ultrasonic fingerprint reader works well, just as fast as the Mi5. I guess the benefit is without a physical button it will be much more reliable. And yes it works if your finger is damp, not that the phone is water proof!
So Mi5 owners, I wouldn't upgrade to this model. No real point unless you want a higher benchmark score. And if you want to get this phone get it for the speed, build, screen and battery. NOT for it's video quality as you'll be very disappointed.
More details are in my video review including benchmarks. I'll have the Mi5S Plus next week to review and later the Le Pro 3 another Snapdragon 821.
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Pixel camera App?
Do you tried the leaked camera app apk from pixel phones? They've got similar hardware and maybe it could improve photos and videos quality
It won't work. The pixel camera requires Nougat.
stoker595 said:
Do you tried the leaked camera app apk from pixel phones? They've got similar hardware and maybe it could improve photos and videos quality
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It won't work. The pixel camera requires Nougat.
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Doh, I hope in Xiaomi to improve their camera software ASAP. I pretty like this phone...
what about audio quality from headphones? what about dac?
if we install pixel camera app on mi5s ( after android 7 update ), will hdr+ work? or it needs some other requirements like special camera firmware or special Image Processor ?
hdr+ in pixel phones takes and combines several pics in low light situations to produce better photos and reduce noise.
i think hdr+ will not work and quality of photos taken with pixel camera app will be like stock camera app or other 3rd party apps.
defcomg said:
Could you pull all the files starting with libmmcamera_imx in /system/vendor/lib no root required
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@defcomg , I've pulled them from current China Developer ROM (6.10.13). Hope that helps. (I don't own the phone!)
s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=09777612282974640057 -> libmmcamera_imx.zip (Apparently I can't attach files yet)
s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=49016282409257723878 -> libmm.lst
I was also wondering if
1) Camera DSP code and image processing algorithms can be updated by software and that may make a difference (I don't know how this things exactly work)
2) Xiaomi is willing to do so in future updates
salehe said:
@defcomg , I've pulled them from current China Developer ROM (6.10.13). Hope that helps. (I don't own the phone!)
s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=64931846989238561549 -> libmmcamera_imx.zip (Apparently I can't attach files yet)
s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=49016282409257723878 -> libmm.lst
I was also wondering if
1) Camera DSP code and image processing algorithms can be updated by software and that may make a difference (I don't know how this things exactly work)
2) Xiaomi is willing to do so in future updates
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Thanks for the files.
1. Yes the Post Processing Algorithms are updatable the files contains the _CPP suffix contain post processing parameters.
2. This I don't know few OEM's actually ever update camera calibration after the device has been released .
Its possible to get post processing algorithms from another device or adjust them via hex editing if one has time
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By the way both links have the same file
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I've been using the Galaxy S8 Plus until I received my solar red U11 yesterday (glad I waited, it's very nice looking). Anyway, I am very impressed with the photo image quality of the phone (it is very comparable to the S8), but I have a few nitpicks about the video recording:
1) No 1080p/60 mode. I really don't understand why it doesn't have a 60fps mode when even phones from 2016 had it? It has 1080p/30 and 1080p/120 (for slow motion), so why no 1080/60? Is it overheating concern?
2) No way to turn of EIS in 1080p video recording mode? While 1080p is very stable due to its combined OIS and EIS, it also crops the view significantly when recording video in this mode (compare it to 4k, which is quite a bit wider but has no EIS). Anyway, the EIS is nice if you want that, but I think there needs to be a toggle or option to turn off EIS and have the wide recording mode in 1080p that is like the 4k mode. As it stands, there does not appear to be a way to change this.
3) 6 minute recording limit in 4k. I guess it's also due to overheating concerns, but why not just make it unlimited and have the phone's temperature monitoring stop recording automatically if it gets to a certain temp? Some people are reporting overheating stoppages even before the 6 minutes, but in cooler environments, we may be able to record indefinitely in 4k.
Things I DO like about the U11's camera though...
1) Photo app and quality are excellent. Nice Pro mode too.
2) Glad I can lock exposure and focus during video recording very easily.
3) Focusing pulling with the touch screen is very nice on the U11 (it doesn't rock back and forth when focusing like many other phone cameras).
4) Audio recording options are very nice (3d audio vs hi-res, and acoustic focus)
https://www.xda-developers.com/htc-u11-updates-srgb-1080p60/
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https://www.xda-developers.com/htc-u11-updates-srgb-1080p60/
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Thanks! It's good to see that they are working on adding 1080p/60, though it appears to be a ways off.
Another thing that bothers me (when compared to the S8 or iPhone 7) is that I can't seem to take a photo while recording in 4k. I'm not sure if that's a software or hardware limitation, but I used that all the time on those phones. I really like using the squeeze to open the camera, take a photo, and switch between front and rear cameras though!
Travisimo said:
Thanks! It's good to see that they are working on adding 1080p/60, though it appears to be a ways off.
Another thing that bothers me (when compared to the S8 or iPhone 7) is that I can't seem to take a photo while recording in 4k. I'm not sure if that's a software or hardware limitation, but I used that all the time on those phones. I really like using the squeeze to open the camera, take a photo, and switch between front and rear cameras though!
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Try Open Camera on XDA, it works shooting 1080P without EIS and no time length limitation on 4K.
I've also see the same issue on the HTC 10 in regards to the 4k and taking a photo while recording if you can call it an issue. I suppose no one had complained about it and they left it unchanged
TheEndHK said:
Try Open Camera on XDA, it works shooting 1080P without EIS and no time length limitation on 4K.
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It's a nice camera app, thanks. Tried various settings in the app for video recording. Looks like no matter what framerate you choose, it can't go above 30fps. I thought maybe it would let me shoot 1080p/60, but nope (even when setting it to 60fps, it still records at 30). Also doesn't seem to be a way to take a photo while shooting video in this app? Nice that you can shoot longer than 6 minutes in 4k though (I didn't try it yet, but I assume it works).
wilpang said:
I've also see the same issue on the HTC 10 in regards to the 4k and taking a photo while recording if you can call it an issue. I suppose no one had complained about it and they left it unchanged
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I call it an "issue" only because I have come to expect it when shooting video now. In fact, I used it quite frequently on my iPhone and Galaxy S8. Being able to take a photo without interrupting the video recording is a pretty important feature, in my opinion. I suppose one could load up the video in software and capture a frame manually, but it's a feature that other flagships have, so I miss it.
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It's a nice camera app, thanks. Tried various settings in the app for video recording. Looks like no matter what framerate you choose, it can't go above 30fps. I thought maybe it would let me shoot 1080p/60, but nope (even when setting it to 60fps, it still records at 30). Also doesn't seem to be a way to take a photo while shooting video in this app? Nice that you can shoot longer than 6 minutes in 4k though (I didn't try it yet, but I assume it works).
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60fps will come with one of the next OTA updates.
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Travisimo said:
I call it an "issue" only because I have come to expect it when shooting video now. In fact, I used it quite frequently on my iPhone and Galaxy S8. Being able to take a photo without interrupting the video recording is a pretty important feature, in my opinion. I suppose one could load up the video in software and capture a frame manually, but it's a feature that other flagships have, so I miss it.
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Indeed, my old year 2012 HTC One S supported shooting FHD video and taking a real photo at the same time and I owned a Galaxy S6 support that feature too. However, I think during 4K recording that no phone could take a real photo, all they do is just capture a frame from video clip and pretend that is a photo.
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Indeed, my old year 2012 HTC One S supported shooting FHD video and taking a real photo at the same time and I owned a Galaxy S6 support that feature too. However, I think during 4K recording that no phone could take a real photo, all they do is just capture a frame from video clip and pretend that is a photo.
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Right, I understand it's not an actual "photo" at the highest resolution, but I would still like the convenience of capturing a frame during 4k video recording like I can on all of the other flagships phones.
Wow I'm glad I found this post, I thought I was going crazy with the issues you mentioned, especially the cropped 1080p video! I hope they can fix that with the 60fps update, because it is really annoying.
Hi, 60fps still not possible?
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Hi, 60fps still not possible?
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1080p60 is being introduced in stock ROMs with versions 1.26 and higher.
Do you know if EIS for 4k video is planned? Thinking about buying the U11 instead of the much too expensive Pixel 2, but the lack of EIS in this case is a bit of a bummer.
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Good stabilisation and auto focus, not much more to say
4k video awful. Stutters and judders whenever you move. FHD+ not much better. Quality is also not sharp. A massive let down here.
Video quality not good terrible jittering ,i expecting more from this expensive phone
price asked has nothing to do with quality there are 200$ phones with crisp 4k video on the market
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4k video awful. Stutters and judders whenever you move. FHD+ not much better. Quality is also not sharp. A massive let down here.
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I got exact same feelings. The video quality is a bad joke...
Keeping my fingers crossed for a software update soon!
I spend a good hour at huawei booth and just couldn't get an explanation why there were jitters and dropped frames at 60 fps especially when panning. Also, 4k had few dropped frames and jitters but there was some sort of warping/bending at the sides of the screen. Again , no explanation.
So wanted to get this phone and am hoping someone has some answers why (perhaps it's ok when exported to pc?) or maybe some setting i'm not aware of?
Same here. Video quality suck and it always want to brighten the video when shot in a sligthly dark room. Hopefully there will be a fix but meanwhile snapchat app actually records better video than the default huawei app... Thats kind of embarrassing for huawei. It seems to be a sofwareissue.
Do anyone know any good external camera app to use?
Any one have the same problem like me.
No sound when making a video. When I restart the phone than sound comes back , but after a few more videos no more. I have now library of movies with no sound.
terkje said:
Same here. Video quality suck and it always want to brighten the video when shot in a sligthly dark room. Hopefully there will be a fix but meanwhile snapchat app actually records better video than the default huawei app... Thats kind of embarrassing for huawei. It seems to be a sofwareissue.
Do anyone know any good external camera app to use?
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I'm using Cinema FV5, it's having a lot of manual settings, so I was able to shoot a video which looks quite more natural in low light.
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I am not happy with video recording, pro mode options are limited and there's no dynamic control option i.e., you can't change settings while recording video other than zoom and focus. lot of pixel dropping in 4K, stabilization is good though, 146 has tweaked it well. another thing i noticed is long exposure shots with ISO 50 are giving lots of white dots or burnt pixels which are spoiling the photo shots. this means camera photo-detectors are not well ventilated for heat dissipation. also some of the features that Huawei boasted about such as cinematic mode are useless, low light videos are horrible...
only photo quality is good.
Slow mo
Hey guys, second post around... I've been testing super slow mo (960 fps) but the quality is a bit rubbish, the lense is the same as far as i know, and at 120 fps it takes good video, despite blurring everything at 0.6x... Do you have the same problem? Is there something I'm missing about slow motion video? Thanks!
Slow Motion is far better in Note 9. Big disappoint on Video recording on M20 Pro
Photos are great, Videos recorded are worse than $200 phone
sajokj said:
Slow Motion is far better in Note 9.
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I feel the same.
But both on Note 9 and Mate 20 Pro, the lack of manual focus on slow motion is sad. I lose lots and lots of opportunity for nice slowmo videos because they are out of focus (e.g., looking out the winodow of a moving train when entering the station). Simply being able to lock the focus would make it awesome.
4K video works fine for me
As long as you move smoothly the video is very nice as long as you are outside in good light. But first remember to use "performance mode". This is very important! Of corse the stabilization is not as good as in full HD;
4k30fps is not the way to go for smooth footage with any movement involved, let's hope the market still cares about Huawei in 2k20 until kirin 990 comes along
gamekill said:
I feel the same.
But both on Note 9 and Mate 20 Pro, the lack of manual focus on slow motion is sad. I lose lots and lots of opportunity for nice slowmo videos because they are out of focus (e.g., looking out the winodow of a moving train when entering the station). Simply being able to lock the focus would make it awesome.
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If you shoot video a lot, download Filmic Pro. It gives you full control on the camera. You'll be able to lock the focus and the exposure. Keep in mind that shooting 960fps video requires lots of lighting otherwise blur effect. The S9 has the same "issue". It is not an issue in fact it's just how it goes even for professional. Slow motion with bad lighting is a bad idea. Hope it helps
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vandal4e said:
4k30fps is not the way to go for smooth footage with any movement involved, let's hope the market still cares about Huawei in 2k20 until kirin 990 comes along
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It depends a lot on what you shoot. and what texture you are looking for in your final footage. For more cinematic videos many will recommend 24fps. For slow motion high framerate. Shooting in 60fps you'll get a texture close to "real life". Hope it helps
How's the effect compared with iPhone and Samsung?
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How's the effect compared with iPhone and Samsung?
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Video recording in Iphone XSMax are gorgeous, better than Mate 20 Pro period. For Samsung S10 I don't know but my guess is that they are both better than Mate 20 Pro. Mate 20 Pro just do the work
the video recording quality is quite the disaster. i hope it is fixed in an update some point soon. i'm pretty sure my zte a7 has better video quality....sadly...
Hi guys!i bought p30 pro on monday at very good price the 256gb one.
Does it worth to go to s10+?
Im thinking to switch because i dont like much the videos p30 pro records and also no option for 60fps..
Your opinions pls?
Thx!
johnnyman25 said:
Hi guys!i bought p30 pro on monday at very good price the 256gb one.
Does it worth to go to s10+?
Im thinking to switch because i dont like much the videos p30 pro records and also no option for 60fps..
Your opinions pls?
Thx!
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I have both. I have tried every possible tweak to the video on the P30 Pro. The camera (for still photos) is much better on the P30 and I don't think anyone can argue differently. However, if video is important there simply isn't a competition. The S10 produced fantastic video and 4K on the front facing camera is nice as well. The P30 Pro has a very difficult time with lighting changes and it throws off color badly. There are times when panning to different scenes will completely change the color palette on the P30. What was brown becomes almost red and there is a lot of oversaturation at times. There is also some stutter to video at times. I have other complaints as well. I'd say if still photos are most important keep it. If the screen quality and video are high on your list the S10 blows it away on both levels. FYI... The microphone is also terrible on the P30 Pro. I use an external mic which solves it - but the built in mic on the S10 is far better.
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I have both. I have tried every possible tweak to the video on the P30 Pro. The camera (for still photos) is much better on the P30 and I don't think anyone can argue differently. However, if video is important there simply isn't a competition. The S10 produced fantastic video and 4K on the front facing camera is nice as well. The P30 Pro has a very difficult time with lighting changes and it throws off color badly. There are times when panning to different scenes will completely change the color palette on the P30. What was brown becomes almost red and there is a lot of oversaturation at times. There is also some stutter to video at times. I have other complaints as well. I'd say if still photos are most important keep it. If the screen quality and video are high on your list the S10 blows it away on both levels. FYI... The microphone is also terrible on the P30 Pro. I use an external mic which solves it - but the built in mic on the S10 is far better.
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That red tint which occurs on p30 pro while record videos is very bad...
U think its software thing?
If possible pls name pros and cons for its device.
Appreciate the help.
P30 Pro 256gb Aurora Power
P30 for still photos and for speed I think according to some benchmarks and for battery life according to some users,
S10 for video and screen and much much more refined and better UI really the one ui is amazing ,
Also frankly the s10 gets very good photos and the weak areas in the Samsung camera app is covered by the Gcam port :good:
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Oh and stereo speakers on the s10 plus are excellent
Video is the dealbreaker for me. 30fps in 2019? Come on!
The Exynos version of the S10+ is capable of 8K 30 capture, for example!
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Video is the dealbreaker for me. 30fps in 2019? Come on!
The Exynos version of the S10+ is capable of 8K 30 capture, for example!
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If video is your priority it's pretty cut and dry. S10.
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I had both of them at the same time and I took the same photos and videos at the same time.
I bought the p30 pro because I got convinced by "authoritative" websites and reviewers, luckily thanks to these I managed to sell it without losing too much money.
The dynamic range is poor, the indoor photos go yellow and the outdoor ones tend to purple, a clear blue sky becomes lilac, the ryyb sensor is not so bright, the photos are even darker than the s10plus, the night mode alters the scene and creates a lot of noise, the photos are too compressed.
The only good thing is the 5x zoom.
The gap on the videos is huge.
I understand fashion, I understand sponsorships and collaborations, I understand that youtubers need to make views but I felt cheated.
The p30pro has a good Huawey style camera but not yet like other competitors.
This is my experience.
The reviews of this device were different than the user experience. More so than usual I believe.
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Video is the dealbreaker for me. 30fps in 2019? Come on!
The Exynos version of the S10+ is capable of 8K 30 capture, for example!
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Can you please elaborate this ?
charming.arpit said:
Can you please elaborate this ?
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4K 150fps 10bit or 8K 30fps is what it's capable of according to Samsung. Of course (software) always dictates what the user experience is. Since the Exynos version will be rooted and soon after development starts, these hardware capabilities will be explored shortly thereafter. That's the chief reason why to pick the "underdog" so to speak.
What's the best place to get a P30 pro on a good deal?
I want to give it a try, if anyone is looking to offload one please let me know
Besides video recording here some advantages of the s10+:
-Better qhd screen
-Better UI
-Unlockable bootloader
-gcam ports
I have both and long story short, the perfect phone will be the front of the s10 including the screen design camera fingerprint and second speaker , the back of the p30 pro design color camera faster wireless charger and battery running oneUI powered by the sd855
Both are good. There are more negatives about the p30pro which can be easily specially yellowish photos can be fixed with snapseed ... that's the price to pay for if u want this marvelous night mode camera and zoom.
If making photos (low-light and possibly zoomed) is your primary focus --> P30+
For just about anything else --> S10+
I have the S10+ and the camera and zoom would be my only reason to switch to the P30+, but just about everything else is better on the S10+ I believe... screen, software, speakers, video.
Batterylife, I can only say I have no issues at all with the S10+ (though I DID specifically go for the 10+ for battery life) and can easily manage 1 day and with some minor effort I'd say 2. Not sure about the P30 Pro, though I heard it's great in that aspect.
The P30 Pro has been proven to phone home to Chinese servers. If you have to use a VPN or special hosts blocker on a phone for security concerns, then I'd never consider it in the first place.
Wireshark a P30 and watch the PLA pop up
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The P30 Pro has been proven to phone home to Chinese servers. If you have to use a VPN or special hosts blocker on a phone for security concerns, then I'd never consider it in the first place.
Wireshark a P30 and watch the PLA pop up
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Where is the proof?
I did a quick search and all I found was a guy who went to a chinese website and was surprised that it was accessing chinese servers.
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The P30 Pro has been proven to phone home to Chinese servers. If you have to use a VPN or special hosts blocker on a phone for security concerns, then I'd never consider it in the first place.
Wireshark a P30 and watch the PLA pop up
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There is no evidence of any links to Chinese servers, only the potential, and iOS and other Google phones have the same potential... Nor is there any evidence of a single piece of classified data being moved via Huawei, its just a bid by Trump and US to get a better trade deal with China, even last week Trump said that the ban on Huawei could be lifted as part of a new trade deal... so one can see its not a security issue but a business one. See here the quote from Trump https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/23/trump-huawei-trade-deal.html
USA is the only country where iPhone sales are strong, 47% use iPhones vs 16% globally. So with Huawei making big inroads (now no.2 after Samsung) Trump needed to protect that 47% (imagine if the iPhone user base in the USA fell by 30% odd..)
Jostian said:
There is no evidence of any links to Chinese servers, only the potential, and iOS and other Google phones have the same potential... Nor is there any evidence of a single piece of classified data being moved via Huawei, its just a bid by Trump and US to get a better trade deal with China, even last week Trump said that the ban on Huawei could be lifted as part of a new trade deal... so one can see its not a security issue but a business one. See here the quote from Trump https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/23/trump-huawei-trade-deal.html
USA is the only country where iPhone sales are strong, 47% use iPhones vs 16% globally. So with Huawei making big inroads (now no.2 after Samsung) Trump needed to protect that 47% (imagine if the iPhone user base in the USA fell by 30% odd..)
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Yep and let's not forgot the $200 Huawei phones. I don't think there is anything in that price range that is as feature rich.
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Not about specs.
Its about software updates and value of phone. I will personally go for s10+.
And in many countries (like mine - Singapore), shops do not accept huawei phones as trade in anymore.