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[Q] n00b here. Help required.

I want to buy a Samsung Google Nexus S I9023 but it does not have a Gorilla Glass. If I use a screen guard, will that be enough protection and will it impair the touch experience?

mk.xda said:
I want to buy a Samsung Google Nexus S I9023 but it does not have a Gorilla Glass. If I use a screen guard, will that be enough protection and will it impair the touch experience?
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Yes it will be enough as long as you don't throw it at a wall or drop it(although I still recommend the gel case or hard case in addition to screen protector) and I haven't noticed any hindering of elegance and I am using the Zagg screen protector. It may take a week but it will mold right in and you'll hardly notice it is there.
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Thanks
It was really a relief. Anyway am from India and will have to look for local equivalents but hearing that it would not impair the experience was a deal-saver Thanks really.

I use the phone without a screen protector for about 3 months now. I don't have a single scratch on it. I always take good care of it and never put it in a pocket with anything else (except maybe a handkerchief).

cgi said:
I use the phone without a screen protector for about 3 months now. I don't have a single scratch on it. I always take good care of it and never put it in a pocket with anything else (except maybe a handkerchief).
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Same with me; no screen protector and I've had mine for about 4 months without any problems whatsoever. I don't even take any special precautions except to make sure there isn't any sand or anything on the screen before I wipe it.
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Had the phone early January and have not used it with a screen protector and have yet to get a scratch on my screen. Don't worry too much about it
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I didn't have it more than two days before the protector was put on it. This is, of course, only because I get a discount on accessories occasionally at the store I usually go to. So 25% off sounded pretty good without having to buy two accessories for the usual deal.
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Is nexus 7 fragile?

Hey guys I'm considering whether to buy a nexus 7 but I'm worried about the screen cracking stuff... Is the built quality good? Why are there so many complaining theirs are cracking magically this makes me scared
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I really think that the defects where with the first batches of nexus7s. I own a 3g model and it's flawless. Idk if i was lucky or not but it's pretty nice.
The screen is fragile, yes. There is NO gorilla glass. Use an A-frame leather case, some are quite cheap and protect the tablet from light impacts. I'm not affraid to use it with just one hand, but I am affraid to walk outside with it in my backpack. I live in Bucharest and it's snowing here, ice has formed on the sidewalks.

I would say the Nexus is very fragile.
Coming from a HOX, the screen feels like a sheet of cling film compared to the sturdy feel of Gorilla glass.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE MY N7, and its a quality device, but it is fragile !

Got my 32gb N7 about 3 days ago and so far it has been an absolute joy to use! Build is A+! Just don't drop it

I suggest looking at the date when looking at post about faults, the early (july/august) models were the worst. I have recently bought two and both were in perfect condition.
As for fragility, the screen is glass and glass is fragile. :/ Any heavy impact on an edge or point will probably crack it. I guess it's more of a concern if you intend on taking it outside a lot and carrying it around.

I have a transformer tf700, within the first week of having it I dropped it off my bed and it fell at an angle it chipped part of the gorilla glass and the metal lining around the micro USB charger
Gorilla glass or not use screen protectors and a case.
But so far my nexus has been great no screen lifting, I banged it against my car console a few times on accident and nothing has happen.
And how do you determine when your device was built?
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inkredible973 said:
I have a transformer tf700, within the first week of having it I dropped it off my bed and it fell at an angle it chipped part of the gorilla glass and the metal lining around the micro USB charger
Gorilla glass or not use screen protectors and a case.
But so far my nexus has been great no screen lifting, I banged it against my car console a few times on accident and nothing has happen.
And how do you determine when your device was built?
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You can get an idea of how new/old your Nexus is by looking at its build number (settings>about (bottom)). I think one of the latest batches has the build number: JOP40D, searching for your number will probably give you an idea. If you ordered from Google play then the date it shipped is also a rough way of knowing how old it is, since their stock rotation is so fast (always people ordering, no stagnant stock).

Also I am rooted on the latest Paranoid Android ROM but it does say JOP40D
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JOP40D does NOT mean you have a newer nexus. All it means is that you're running 4.2.1. 'Build number' is referring to the SOFTWARE build, not the hardware.
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Does the Nexus 4 come with a screen protector?

Hi everyone,
So the question is pretty clear I think, I want to know if the Nexus comes with its own screen protector from LG/Google?
Thanks!

Sort of. It has one front and back. It looks like it's not intended to be kept on there, because there is a tiny tab to remove it, but mine seems perfect so I still have it on after several weeks!
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Yes and they are perfectly cut but the front one has volume and power button symbols on it though but work very well still got my back one on.
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Yes, the Nexus 4 comes with front and back ones. They are pretty high quality too-nothing like those 5-for-a-dollar ones you get on eBay or the one that comes on Samsung devices. Like somebody else said, there are pictures on the front of the power and two volume buttons. They aren't that annoying though. I took off the factory screen protector and put on my Skinomi a few weeks ago because I got it for that reason lol. I still have the back protector on.
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Thanks everyone,
does the device arrive with the protectors on it or are they separate?
Why am I asking? Assuming they come on the device, I don't want to think that I haven't received the protectors.

Typically those are the shipping protectors, they should be on the device. They really aren't met to be left on but to protect the glass in the box during shipping from scuffs and dirt.

TheeWolf said:
does the device arrive with the protectors on it or are they separate?
Why am I asking? Assuming they come on the device, I don't want to think that I haven't received the protectors.
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They are already on when you get the phone
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ryan stewart said:
Typically those are the shipping protectors, they should be on the device. They really aren't met to be left on but to protect the glass in the box during shipping from scuffs and dirt.
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Yes and no.
You are for the most part right, but since they have cut outs for camera and proximity/light sensor, it's pretty clear they expected people to leave them on.

I received my Nexus 4 in the mail yesterday and have left the screen protector on it's actually better than most screen protectors that are pre-installed on devices. I also think the volume and power indicators are actually quite useful. I'm still getting used to the location of the power button (coming from an HTC Sensation where it was on top). Like someone mentioned the indicators aren't too distracting either.

mwilliams05 said:
I received my Nexus 4 in the mail yesterday and have left the screen protector on it's actually better than most screen protectors that are pre-installed on devices. I also think the volume and power indicators are actually quite useful. I'm still getting used to the location of the power button (coming from an HTC Sensation where it was on top). Like someone mentioned the indicators aren't too distracting either.
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No it does not. It comes with a film that is static applied as part of the manufacturing process but they are not meant to be used as screen protectors.

they're screen protectors in a sense that its to protect it while it ships to you, but not meant for long term use. it doesn't have a good glide for your finger.
the front screen is rather tough. I've had mine naked for 2 months and not a single scratch. you may want to leave the back one on until you find a more permanent solution if you really want a screen protector.

Did anyone here ever use the Wrapsol screen protector? I want to buy it (and the back protector of course) but I heard it has the orange peel effect - can anyone confirm/disprove this claim?

TheeWolf said:
Did anyone here ever use the Wrapsol screen protector? I want to buy it (and the back protector of course) but I heard it has the orange peel effect - can anyone confirm/disprove this claim?
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There are a lot of discussions about specific screen protectors in the Accessories forum
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[Q] Laser etching the glass back

Anyone ever thought about laser-etching a cool pattern on the glass back of their Nexus 4? Any idea how that would turn out, and interact with the "Crystal Reflection"? I was thinking a pattern like the N4 Cruzelite cases.

k3nav7 said:
Anyone ever thought about laser-etching a cool pattern on the glass back of their Nexus 4? Any idea how that would turn out, and interact with the "Crystal Reflection"? I was thinking a pattern like the N4 Cruzelite cases.
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I would be afraid the back glass would blow apart what with all the "my back glass just shattered out of nowhere threads". Glass that sensitive and you wanna hit it with a laser
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My school has a laser, but I decided not to do it because of what the guy above said ^^^
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Would be niccceeee and exclusive to have that Android etched on the back...
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more interesting would be to etch your name and address to it, as a security measure -- like on a car window.

theabsurdman said:
more interesting would be to etch your name and address to it, as a security measure -- like on a car window.
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Steal your phone then burgle your home
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Exodian said:
Steal your phone then burgle your home
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you have a point there.

Wouldn't your warranty be null and void even if you were successful? And those back replacement covers seem to cost a fortune. Would be cool to see someone do something like this though.

I'm thinking that I'll find a piece of glass and practice with the laser etcher I have access to first... In a couple of weeks. Does anybody know if the N4 glass is special in any way? Is the back Gorilla Glass 2 as well?
I'm sure the warranty would be void, yeah. Maybe something to do after the next Nexus comes out, when there's an upgrade option available...

k3nav7 said:
I'm thinking that I'll find a piece of glass and practice with the laser etcher I have access to first... In a couple of weeks. Does anybody know if the N4 glass is special in any way? Is the back Gorilla Glass 2 as well?
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Supposedly it is GG2

its a great idea to personalise your phone
you could very lightly etch it or stratch it in and fill it with transparent adheasive so it would still be strong but noticeable unless you want that glitter.
put your home phone number not your address

Doesn't matter which type of glass it is. mostly they are some kind of borosilicate glass with some additions and protecting layers.
Most important thing to know is which wavelength your laser is emitting and if this wavelength is absorbed by the material of interest. As we all know, glass is usually transparent to visible light (range of 400-800 nm wavelength). So if your laser uses also visible ligth, your etching wont be successfull. Etching with a laser only works, if the light of laser gets absorbed. Thus the energy of the light gets transformed to heat and by that laser ablation works.
look at that graphic for a special borosilicate glass (pyrex) http://www.pgo-online.com/intl/katalog/curves/pyrex_kurve.html
reading this, your laser should be far in the uv light (lambda < 200 nm) or far in the infrared (lambda > 3500 nm)
Good luck!
Edit: I just had a quick search on the gorilla glass. here is some kind of datasheet: http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/sites/all/files/Gorilla Glass 3_PI Sheet 010713.pdf
Here you can also find a transmission spectrum (here it is for gorilla glass 3, but should be valid for gorilla glass 2, too). Looks similar to the one behind the link I posted. so the conclusion remains.

Keep in mind: If you etch any personal information onto it, the resale value plummets, maybe even becomes nonexistent.
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I've laser engraved some iPhone 4 backs which I think are gorilla glass. Didn't come out as well as engraving normal glass, so I wouldn't try any intricate details.
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estallings15 said:
Supposedly it is GG2
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I don't see how it can be.... It scratches far too easily.....

The glass seems very thin... to me it looks much thinner than the glass of the iPhone 4.
I wouldn't try my luck~ If you are experienced and know your stuff go ahead though.

[Q] Oleophobic Coating doesn't last :(

I've only had my Nexus 4 just over a week & now noticed the Oleophobic Coating is starting to wear in the middle of the screen were it's been rubbing in my pocket.
Past phones i had with this coating has never had this problem upto a year after purchase.
I'm not really keen on screen protectors, but it looks like the Nexus 4 needs one just to protect the coating.
Im now considering RMA it, and the next Nexus i get stick a screen protector on right out of the box.
So has anybody else suffered this problem were the coating starting to come away?

ixon2001 said:
I've only had my Nexus 4 just over a week & now noticed the Oleophobic Coating is starting to wear in the middle of the screen were it's been rubbing in my pocket.
Past phones i had with this coating has never had this problem upto a year after purchase.
I'm not really keen on screen protectors, but it looks like the Nexus 4 needs one just to protect the coating.
Im now considering RMA it, and the next Nexus i get stick a screen protector on right out of the box.
So has anybody else suffered this problem were the coating starting to come away?
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I have mine now for about 4 months, i use no screen protector and no wear off noticable anywhere on the screen.

AW: [Q] Oleophobic Coating doesn't last :(
Have mine since January. Still has its coating and I never use a screen protector.
Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4

it should last between 4-6 months, it will wear alot faster rubbing on materials or if you clean the screen often, you can buy those drops to restore a coat ontop.

I was wondering, what do you guys think? I just got mine and I've left the factory cover on for now. Do you think this is a problem and I should invest in protectors, or should I just use it? Where could i purchase these drops your talking about?
-Thanks

You could replace it.........Ifixit

Behemyth said:
I was wondering, what do you guys think? I just got mine and I've left the factory cover on for now. Do you think this is a problem and I should invest in protectors, or should I just use it? Where could i purchase these drops your talking about?
-Thanks
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I put them on all my phones then end up taking them off the re ordering a new set.
Extreme guard has a 75 percent off and free shipping cost 2.50 just go to their website and put 75off(not positive this the right to one check the accessories threads if that code doesn't work) In the coupon field about a week later I got it in the mail ordered just about a week ago
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Behemyth said:
I was wondering, what do you guys think? I just got mine and I've left the factory cover on for now. Do you think this is a problem and I should invest in protectors, or should I just use it? Where could i purchase these drops your talking about?
-Thanks
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Just use a screen protector. It's fairly cheap. You can get one xtremeguard screen protector for $1 with free shipping in the U.S with promo code 80off.
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scream4cheese said:
Just a screen protector. It's fairly cheap. You can get one xtremeguard screen protector for $1 with free shipping in the U.S with the promo code 80off.
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Didn't know about that code damn
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scream4cheese said:
Just a screen protector. It's fairly cheap. You can get one xtremeguard screen protector for $1 with free shipping in the U.S with the promo code 80off.
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Dude thanks for posting I picked up one for my new nexus4 and my old GNex for the wife. Total cost $2 for just the front screen on both. Somehow she scratched the screen on her sgs1 and I cringed handing over my trusty mint GNex.
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I'm glad I helped.
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Wear off in 4-6 months. That can't be right!
That's like selling a product meant to not last and just throw away
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myturbo1 said:
Wear off in 4-6 months. That can't be right!
That's like selling a product meant to not last and just throw away
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That isn`t right Had mine for 4 months now and nothing of the oleophobic layer is wearing off anywhere.

I don't think I have had a phone it had ever worn off.. Heck I still have phones all the way from about 5 years ago.
If it's wearing off I would contact Google about the defect
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It seems a few others have suffered the same problem as me with the coating starting to rub off in places.
I remember iphones & ipads suffered the same problem to, not sure if it still effects the iphone 5
In the past I've had GS1, HTC Sensation, GS2 & GS3 none of these ever had a problem with the coating wearing, also have a Nokia Lumia 800 & same goes for this coating still just as good as the day i bought it.
Maybe it's somekind of manufacturing fault with a few Nexus 4's, were they not applied the coating properly.... who knows.
Eitherway think next week I'm gonna return it, and the next one i get hopefully without any other problems i'm going to put a screen protector on it right out of the box.

Em. How do you know it's wearing off?

ixon2001 said:
It seems a few others have suffered the same problem as me with the coating starting to rub off in places.
I remember iphones & ipads suffered the same problem to, not sure if it still effects the iphone 5
In the past I've had GS1, HTC Sensation, GS2 & GS3 none of these ever had a problem with the coating wearing, also have a Nokia Lumia 800 & same goes for this coating still just as good as the day i bought it.
Maybe it's somekind of manufacturing fault with a few Nexus 4's, were they not applied the coating properly.... who knows.
Eitherway think next week I'm gonna return it, and the next one i get hopefully without any other problems i'm going to put a screen protector on it right out of the box.
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I had it rub off of my gnex after a month and my n4 after 2. Oh well.
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