Just wanted to take the time to thank everyone here for all the useful information they provided. I spent a lot of time modifying the GT540, and had a lot of fun with it.
But it's time for an upgrade. I just ordered the Huawei U8800. From what I have read, it's basically a HTC Desire with the next generation processor and a TFT screen. It is also very reasonably priced. The Huawei U8800 recently got it's own section here at XDA, so I'm hoping for lots of development over there.
Also, lots of people in China know about XDA. I've meet a few people at my college in Xi'an, China who use XDA. So if the Chinese modders and developers get to work on the Huawei U8800, I can expect a lot of improvements for the phone.
Thanks everyone for your help.
How much did you buy it for? Does anyone you know have ideos x3? Can you rip the flash player from x3 and share it with us? (Not your model, the lesser x3)
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I bought it for 1550 RMB ($240 USD). You can buy them used 1250-1450 RMB ($190-$225 USD). I bought them in China off of TaoBao. I don't know what they cost elsewhere.
I originally wanted an HTC Desire (1900 RMB) or HTC Desire HD(2500 RMB), but they are a bit more expensive here. The U8800 basically gave me the Desire with the Desire HD's processor and GPU, which can be overclock up to 1.8 GHz.
I'll ask around if someone has an X3 (U8510, right?). I'll also ask around at some Chinese Android forums, after I find some. To rip the flash player it I would just copy the apk with root explorer or a back-up program, right? Is there something great about this flash player I should know about?
typci said:
I bought it for 1550 RMB ($240 USD). You can buy them used 1250-1450 RMB ($190-$225 USD). I bought them in China off of TaoBao. I don't know what they cost elsewhere.
I originally wanted an HTC Desire (1900 RMB) or HTC Desire HD(2500 RMB), but they are a bit more expensive here. The U8800 basically gave me the Desire with the Desire HD's processor and GPU, which can be overclock up to 1.8 GHz.
I'll ask around if someone has an X3 (U8510, right?). I'll also ask around at some Chinese Android forums, after I find some. To rip the flash player it I would just copy the apk with root explorer or a back-up program, right? Is there something great about this flash player I should know about?
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Well, that's cool. Congrats with your new phone and do have fun hacking. xD
Ideos X3(U8510) supposedly has a Qualcomm MSM 7227 processor but it also boasts Adobe Flash 10.1. I do not know how this worked out. Qualcomm MSM 7227 is the same processor as in LG GT540. It's ARMv6. Am curious as to how X3 is running Flash 10.1 on ARMv6.
I don't have exact specs from an official source but if what I've heard is true, Flash 10.1 on X3 would work on other ARMv6 devices as well.
(Flash Lite is another alternative but Flash Lite depends on Sense architecture of HTC and would require a lot of tinkering to the ROM. Even after all the hacking, it'd still be Flash Lite and not Flash 10.1.)
I did some quick research on the Huawei U8510. It is quite strange.
Qualcomm MSM7227 600 MHz
256 MB RAM
Android 2.3 Gingerbread
Flash 10.1
How can the X3 it have Android 2.3 when the X5 only has Android 2.2? and with such little ram?
Anyway, leave it to the Chinese to do crazy things like that. You wouldn't believe some of the stuff they put on Chinese phones, and MP5 players (known to the rest of the world as MP4 players).
Knowing the Chinese, they probably put flash on there because they could, not because the phone will run it. You can see that the X3 has the same specifications as the GT540, minus the Android 2.3, so there is no telling if flash is running well.
Here is a link I found through Google for flash 10.1. It says it requires Android 2.2 or above, which the X3 has.
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/08/23/download-official-flash-10-1-v10-1-92-8-for-froyo-now/
I'll still ask some of my Chinese friends if any of them have the X3. I'll also go to the local computer mall and have a look at the X3. However, I wouldn't count on it being any different than the above download. Huawei is supposed to use "vanilla" or almost stock android, with little to no overlay or bloatware. I'd also like to see about porting the Android 2.3 to my X5.
typci said:
I did some quick research on the Huawei U8510. It is quite strange.
Qualcomm MSM7227 600 MHz
256 MB RAM
Android 2.3 Gingerbread
Flash 10.1
How can the X3 it have Android 2.3 when the X5 only has Android 2.2? and with such little ram?
Anyway, leave it to the Chinese to do crazy things like that. You wouldn't believe some of the stuff they put on Chinese phones, and MP5 players (known to the rest of the world as MP4 players).
Knowing the Chinese, they probably put flash on there because they could, not because the phone will run it. You can see that the X3 has the same specifications as the GT540, minus the Android 2.3, so there is no telling if flash is running well.
Here is a link I found through Google for flash 10.1. It says it requires Android 2.2 or above, which the X3 has.
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/08/23/download-official-flash-10-1-v10-1-92-8-for-froyo-now/
I'll still ask some of my Chinese friends if any of them have the X3. I'll also go to the local computer mall and have a look at the X3. However, I wouldn't count on it being any different than the above download. Huawei is supposed to use "vanilla" or almost stock android, with little to no overlay or bloatware. I'd also like to see about porting the Android 2.3 to my X5.
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X3 was launched later than X5. That's why it has 2.3. Even G1 runs 2.3 and 3.0. Android has no hard set system requirements. Theoretically, any version of Android can be ported to any device.
The 2.3 doesn't have a lot of advantages over 2.2. The speed gain is very small.
I don't know how they put the Flash 10.1.
Flash 10.1 needs both 2.2/2.3(would work on 2.1 with some tinkering) and a ARMv7(or newer) CPU. The libflashplayer.so is compiled for ARMv7. However, someone who is good in programming could either wrap the libflashplayer.so in an emulation layer or could reverse engineer and recompile it so that it will work on ARMv6. It's not impossible but rather, it's really really hard. No one has done it so far.
Huawei is not exactly a sub-standard Chinese brand. It's a recognized brand. So, I wouldn't expect them to put a Flash Player that wouldn't work. Either the information we have about the CPU is wrong or the phone doesn't have Flash.
Since X5 is vanilla, am also expecting X3 to be vanilla which means, if it does have a working Flash 10.1 and it does run on MSM7227, the Flash 10.1 it has should run on GT540 and many other ARMv6 devices.
From pure curiosity last week I extracted flash 10.2's apk and found that it has a .lib file that could supposively be put in /system/lib with root explorer (permissions rw-r--r--) and install the apk with either push or install. That may work, it did with x-plane flight sim, which crashed before the lib push but after opened but was killed by android for it not having enough memory to run it. I will try it now and report my findings.
I will also post an extracted apk in 3 ways, 7zip, which just opens it, APKTOOL, which decodes the xmls, and dex2jar which takes the classes.dex and puts it into a jar file that can then be decoded by Java decopmiler
Quinny899 said:
From pure curiosity last week I extracted flash 10.2's apk and found that it has a .lib file that could supposively be put in /system/lib with root explorer (permissions rw-r--r--) and install the apk with either push or install. That may work, it did with x-plane flight sim, which crashed before the lib push but after opened but was killed by android for it not having enough memory to run it. I will try it now and report my findings.
I will also post an extracted apk in 3 ways, 7zip, which just opens it, APKTOOL, which decodes the xmls, and dex2jar which takes the classes.dex and puts it into a jar file that can then be decoded by Java decopmiler
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The problem is not with the apks. The problem is with the lib file or more specifically libflashplayer.so. This file depends on ARMv7 architecture. So, if you want Flash 10.1/10.2 on ARMv6, you should be able to decompile the lib(.so) files and edit them to convert ARMv7 dependent code to ARMv6 compatible code and recompile it for ARMv6. Editing the apk is very easy but porting the .so(lib) file is very very hard.
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The problem is not with the apks. The problem is with the lib file or more specifically libflashplayer.so. This file depends on ARMv7 architecture. So, if you want Flash 10.1/10.2 on ARMv6, you should be able to decompile the lib(.so) files and edit them to convert ARMv7 dependent code to ARMv6 compatible code and recompile it for ARMv6. Editing the apk is very easy but porting the .so(lib) file is very very hard.
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There's more than just libflashplayer.so, there's also libstagefright_froyo.so, libstagefright_honeycomb.so and libysshared.so
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Quinny899 said:
There's more than just libflashplayer.so, there's also libstagefright_froyo.so, libstagefright_honeycomb.so and libysshared.so
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I'm not sure about other lib files but libflashplayer.so is the most important. If we can port it, at least Flash 10.1 would work.
I looked into finding a X3, it's most likely going to be pretty difficult. I couldn't find them at China Unicom, which is the store that sells the X5. Also, I couldn't find it online, except for 6 sellers which had it on Taobao. Normally, for any given phone model, there are at least 50-100 different sellers. Also, some of the sellers didn't have the specifications listed for the phone correctly.
Is the X3 officially released? If so, what cellphone provider has it?
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I looked into finding a X3, it's most likely going to be pretty difficult. I couldn't find them at China Unicom, which is the store that sells the X5. Also, I couldn't find it online, except for 6 sellers which had it on Taobao. Normally, for any given phone model, there are at least 50-100 different sellers. Also, some of the sellers didn't have the specifications listed for the phone correctly.
Is the X3 officially released? If so, what cellphone provider has it?
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It's not released in US or Europe. I'm not sure about its official release in China. It was supposed to be released in Japan by SOFTBANK Mobile during the first week of May. I checked the Huawei site as well as SOFTBANK site but I couldn't find any references to X3.
I don't speak Japanese or Chinese without Google Translate. So, if I there is someone who is fluent in Japanese or Chinese, they could do two things,
1) You can contact the seller asking for the official driver/software download link or you can ask them to send you a copy via email. Most of the time, the software has an option to completely re-install the firmware(Recovery Phone in LG Mobile Phone Tools). If we could get hold of the firmware, most likely we would be able to extract the files we need from it.
2) Some of these online shops have a list of other people who bought the device. You could try messaging them for help. You could ask them to make a complete backup of the system.img with YaffsExpert or you could ask them to rip the apks with Root Explorer.
I checked the Engadget Hand-on review and the reviewer say that the device is MSM7227 and does play Flash. However, she also mentioned that the launcher was themed which means it might not be vanilla. Nonetheless, it is Adobe Flash 10.1. If this reaches the devs, they will be more interested in porting it.
I speak and read (for the most part) Chinese, however Google translate does alot to help. Ｉ also live in China.
The seller's on Taobao won't be able to provide software and firmware. They are lucky if they can get the specifications right. Also, I only saw one completed transaction for the X3 on taobao, but my Chinese is nowhere good enough to ask them for a back-up, or explain how to do it.
Huawei's website doesn't have the X3 listed as a model. All I could find about the X3 was the user manual, and an EU Declaration of Conformity.
If I can find the phone in a store, I can bring my laptop and say I want to test out the phone. They'll let me do just about anything, so long as I don't take the phone out of the store, if they think they may make a sale. And since my computer is in English, they won't know what I'm doing.
Right now, I don't think the X3 is released fully. The few sellers that have it on Taobao are most likely insiders. Someone send me a message when the X3 is released in China, and I'll see what I can do.
typci said:
I speak and read (for the most part) Chinese, however Google translate does alot to help. Ｉ also live in China.
The seller's on Taobao won't be able to provide software and firmware. They are lucky if they can get the specifications right. Also, I only saw one completed transaction for the X3 on taobao, but my Chinese is nowhere good enough to ask them for a back-up, or explain how to do it.
Huawei's website doesn't have the X3 listed as a model. All I could find about the X3 was the user manual, and an EU Declaration of Conformity.
If I can find the phone in a store, I can bring my laptop and say I want to test out the phone. They'll let me do just about anything, so long as I don't take the phone out of the store, if they think they may make a sale. And since my computer is in English, they won't know what I'm doing.
Right now, I don't think the X3 is released fully. The few sellers that have it on Taobao are most likely insiders. Someone send me a message when the X3 is released in China, and I'll see what I can do.
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If you are lucky, the buyer might know English. xD
Please give me the link to the user guide. It might give us some insight about the specs.
I also learned from a Frash forum that the Adobe Flash 10 beta 1 which was released in a closed beta was ARMv6 compatible. I couldn't find the beta 1 apk anywhere though.
Adobe did work on ARMv6 and armeabi to begin with. They first demoed Flash on G1 but they never released the ARMv6 version. They dropped ARMv6 support because they couldn't improve performance well.
Huawei could be using the older beta or they might have developed their own port.
It seems that I have found an apk which when extracted in 7zip you look in its lib folder and it has only an armeabi folder, whereas the newer ones have a folder called armeabiv7 (arm v7). Perhaps this is what you are looking for?
We still need to do something to it, as it doesn't load flash.
To test whether we have flash go to http://www.codegeek.net/flash-version.php to check whether flash is installed & javascript enabled
The apk is attached
Source
Here you go:
Huawei U8510 X3 user manual
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RTBQ9UFD
And the declaration of conformity is attached.
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It seems that I have found an apk which when extracted in 7zip you look in its lib folder and it has only an armeabi folder, whereas the newer ones have a folder called armeabiv7 (arm v7). Perhaps this is what you are looking for?
We still need to do something to it, as it doesn't load flash.
To test whether we have flash go to http://www.codegeek.net/flash-version.php to check whether flash is installed & javascript enabled
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I'll check it soon in a while and post back. I extracted and did see armeabi folder but the version in the manifest doesn't seem to be a beta version.
armeabi can be v6 or v7 or generic. But, if it's not mentioned v7 and only armeabi, it most likely means that it could be generic but we do need to check. I'll check it in my phone.
I looked on the Huawei website for the firmware for the X3, and it's not out yet. When it does come out, we should be able to download it and extract out the flash player. It will most likely be the easiest way, since getting an actual X3 phone will be very difficult.
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I'll check it soon in a while and post back. I extracted and did see armeabi folder but the version in the manifest doesn't seem to be a beta version.
armeabi can be v6 or v7 or generic. But, if it's not mentioned v7 and only armeabi, it most likely means that it could be generic but we do need to check. I'll check it in my phone.
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Negative. It's not working.
typci said:
I looked on the Huawei website for the firmware for the X3, and it's not out yet. When it does come out, we should be able to download it and extract out the flash player. It will most likely be the easiest way, since getting an actual X3 phone will be very difficult.
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That's true but you know "we are impatient" lol
Huawei might not release the firmware right after the phone is launched. The other thing is, they might not include the Flash Player in the public download link since although Android is Apache Lincensed, Flash Player is a closed and privately owned software by Adobe.
Hi guys,
I'm trying to figure out how to unlock the bootloader of the ZE500KL, I have a full dump and I think that we can unlock it by modifying the aboot.bin file.
Tryied to decompile it, but not understand the output code at all because it is with addresses. Can someone help me?
Here the zip with decompiled files.
c file contains functions, svg are graphs of the functions that can be opened and viewed with google chrome, and dsm file is low level code I think, there are some interesting strings in it.
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Hi guys,
I'm trying to figure out how to unlock the bootloader of the ZE500KL, I have a full dump and I think that we can unlock it by modifying the aboot.bin file.
Tryied to decompile it, but not understand the output code at all because it is with addresses. Can someone help me?
Here the zip with decompiled files.
c file contains functions, svg are graphs of the functions that can be opened and viewed with google chrome, and dsm file is low level code I think, there are some interesting strings in it.
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Have you tried what the zenfone 2 does? seeing as they are fairly similar phones http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/congrats-to-bootlocker-unlocked-t3138547
also here is a way to root it if you have not done that already http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63444749&postcount=108
deadman96385 said:
Have you tried what the zenfone 2 does? seeing as they are fairly similar phones http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/congrats-to-bootlocker-unlocked-t3138547
also here is a way to root it if you have not done that already http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63444749&postcount=108
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Yeah, but I don't think it's the same
Rooted and flashed twrp, thank you.
deadman96385 said:
Have you tried what the zenfone 2 does? seeing as they are fairly similar phones http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/congrats-to-bootlocker-unlocked-t3138547
also here is a way to root it if you have not done that already http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63444749&postcount=108
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UPDATE:
Tried shakalaka method and doesn't work, copied the key in asuskey file in /factory but at reboot in bootloader nothing happens!
These phones share naming, but under the hood they are completely different. The ZF2 is using an Intel processor and the Laser is using a SnapDragon 615 ARM processor. It would be better to look at common unlocking methods for similarly spec'd devices. Asus tends to not alter to much from standard design specs released by the SoC manufacturer. This phone is also just now getting released in the U.S so support may take a while to get development picked up. Keep an eye on 23 pin's blog because he does a lot of work with varying models of Asus devices.