Moto x pure always warmish despite completely idle. - X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

This is especially annoying when it is in pants pocket, it is always warmish. I never own high powered flagship before, is this normal behavior?
Does moto display have anything to do with it?

You give no info on what you are running. My phone is almost always cool except in poor reception areas.

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[Q] Questions about LG G2

Hi to all ,so guys i'm interested to buy the G2 but first i have some questions for those who already have them ,reviewers are too biased and hit or miss always with any phone ,firstly i'm huge in gaming so i heard the G2 has great battery life but no one seems to make a battery test based on on gaming purely ,second thing is i'm curious about the buttons from the back ,volume and power ones , are they sturdy enough ? they don't fall down after some time or something right? the way they're placed just seem like the volume buttons might get unglued , and a big concern is about the Li Po battery which is said to be prone to explosions and catching fire if overcharged or damaged what about that anyone heard anything about G2's taking that route ? thanks .
Battery life is great, better than my RAZR maxx HD but not as good as my wife's droid Maxx. I have the Verizon version and no problems with the back buttons, actually like that combo with that and knock on. Speed is fastest phone I have used now and faster than my wife maxx, tho I'm not a huge gamer.
The only knock I have on this phone is the fingerprint magnet of the back. I prefer the carbon that the droid maxx has.
I really love the phone. No major complaints and it runs like a beast.
The biggest issue for me was that when paired with my car bluetooth, I could not get Pandora to stream at all. I disabled default music apps and got it to play (with no song title/artist text) but it would still pause ever so often, even multiple times during the same song. So I had to either root the phone or take it back as Pandora is my friend for about an hour each way to/from work.
Really, otherwise I had no issues with the phone. I don't think the battery is a problem for normal use. It lasts much longer then my Droid RAZR previously, and I can make it through waking up, taking it off charger, to work, normal work usage, screen brightness normal and wifi/BT/LTE all on throughout, and back home with still around 30-50% roughly. I don't know what the best battery app to benchmark would be. I do know playing Plants vs Zombies in the morning to wake up eats the battery.
Another odd thing is it gets really hot when it's flat, even though I don't see any vents or anything on the back. But again, that's during heavy PvZ action, otherwise no difference at all.
Also, I hate the Verizon typical bloatware and some of the apps/settings like QSlide are neat, but not really worth it for my usage. QuickMemo is awesome, love the knock on and knock off, which is great for meetings., and really liked the slide up menu. Also had some easy options for changing look and feel to some degree of the nav buttons.
One last thing, I still can't get used to the back buttons. It's not a major problem, I dont really use them all that much, but I still find myself struggling to feel for them or hit them. Not a worry enough to take the phone back.
I'm using the G2 for a bit more than two weeks now, and so far I am reall impressed by the battery life.
With my old One X I wasn't really a fan of playing, because you could literally watch the battery drain, but with the G2 I came back to playing Real Racing 3 and Angry Birds Go.
My experience is that battery life while gaming also depends on the game (of course) and the screen brightness - battery drains faster while playing Real Racing 3, but playing for an hour or so doesn't drain the battery more than 15-17%, with Angry Birds Go it's even less (approx 10%).
This leaves me with Screen-On times of 5-6 hrs > 60-90 mins of playing, emails, FB, internet, photographing, GPS tracking,... (settings: WIFI on, brightness > Auto, Data on, GPS on)
The back buttons look solid and I don't really think that they will cause a problem or fall out. But I guess that also pretty much depends on how what you're doing with your phone and how you treat it
I'll give another perspective
15 minutes of Asphalt 8 drained about 8%.
There is microstutter when playing asphalt 8 but it is also occurring when playing the game on medium visual quality, so it could very well be the game.
The phone gets warm quite quickly, but I've never experienced it getting burning hot. CPU reached 70 C and battery reached 40 C.
My two cents
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Best and most Stable ROM
Hey Everyone,
I am new to the LG G2 forums and will be getting an LG G2 soon. (Coming from Epic 4g Touch) I was just wondering, what ROM would you guys recommend? I want a ROM that provides really good battery life and some nice features. It doesn't need to have a plethora of features, just a few here and there. My biggest concern factors are stability and battery life. What would you guys recommend?

Battery Life Since 4.4.2

I only had mine a week or so before the upgrade, but I would say it's definitely taken a hit. Now, screen is not always the biggest power consumer like it used to be. Android OS and Android System are taking a much bigger portion of the power than they used to. I always reboot the phone if something other than screen is monopolizing the battery.
Also, I heard there's a Qualcomm-specific bug related to powering the cameras, and that it's been a particular issue with the latest Skype builds.
I worry that they'll fix these issues quickly in the Android project but it'll take months for me to see the fix from Verizon, by which point my battery will have been subjected a lot of unnecessary heat and wear.
Tonnes of android os talk in this thread. Or try Googling it.
Basically, the more services you have on and apps syncing, the higher it gets. For experimentation .....disable sync, location, Google now and Amy other service you can find, and usually android os goes way down. Decide what's important to you and enable things again....but do like one change a day. And when your android os skyrockets again....you'll know the last thing you enabled is the main culprit.
Anyway.....a pile of battery tips in here, and android os talk. Take some time and read through some. Maybe start at last page and go back as far as you can.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2418077
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Yes that battery life thread is very good. No change noticed here after the upgrade from 4.4
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Thanks, but I didn't really have to add anything except 4.4.2. The increased battery draw was pretty obvious after I applied the OTA. Since the upgrade, this phone doesn't have anywhere near the life that it once had. And even after the bugs that are draining it are addressed how long will it take to get the fix through Verizon?
cpurick said:
Thanks, but I didn't really have to add anything except 4.4.2. The increased battery draw was pretty obvious after I applied the OTA. Since the upgrade, this phone doesn't have anywhere near the life that it once had. And even after the bugs that are draining it are addressed how long will it take to get the fix through Verizon?
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Trust me, you can fix it now....if you try. Just gotta troubleshoot.
Many have no such bugs....or they've disabled whatever has wrecked their battery.
Just gotta put in some time and your issues can be fixed.
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Rooted with 4.4.2 and xposed/gravity box... Excellent battery life. Always 24+ hours use and 6+ hours of screen time. Granted I don't game but I always get some GPS and lots of music and browsing. I love this phone. I'm selling my n5 now.
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Jayrod1980 said:
Rooted with 4.4.2 and xposed/gravity box... Excellent battery life. Always 24+ hours use and 6+ hours of screen time. Granted I don't game but I always get some GPS and lots of music and browsing. I love this phone. I'm selling my n5 now.
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I seem to be one of the few that's matching my Moto x's battery life on my N5.
Not sure why some have such bad battery life on either phone sometimes, I can only assume its app related and very hard to pin down.
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I have noticed no appreciable change in battery life on any of the builds that the phone has had since I got it in December. Some days it is excellent, the next day, the wind blows the other direction (literally and figuratively) and the battery life is terrible with no change in usage or where my phone spends most of its time.
I had the Android OS bug after the OTA. I reflashed the stock firmware in fastboot and now it's gone back down to a more manageable level.
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I actually had slightly better battery life on my Nexus5. I still haven't passed 7+ hours screen time on the MotoX. I did it multiple times with the Nexus5. Although I think the Nexus5 has some tech to save battery while reading or screen is still. It still wasn't enough to make me choose it over the awesomeness that is the MotoX. Although I do miss that raw power every so often.
I too have had the random drain issue. It's definitely app related and since I reset and have stopped installing outdated apps I've been fine.
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You know, I thought it was just me, but the battery life definitely why down after 4.4.2! Yes they added a couple of features, but not that many for the drop in battery life experienced
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My battery life is better on 4.4.2
The issues are with apps that have not been updated since kit kat. I've since removed such apps and have been enjoying much better battery life.
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Installed ds battery saver. And let discharge overnight. Gsam reported a 2%/hr discharge. I had some apps not be shutoff
Install a xposed module appopsx or find a app on the play store if you don't have xposed. 4.4.2 requires root.
It's the built in permissions management. You can disable location for what app for example. It shows you what app is using that permission and how long ago it used it.
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I unlocked and finally upgraded to 4.4.2 on Tuesday the 18th. I had a four day weekend and was on my phone A LOT (because I wasn't at work), so I wouldn't consider it normal usage to compare with. I'm waiting patiently for my averages to level off now that I'm back at work and on normal patterns again.
Before I wiped I took a screenshot of my averages according to GSAM, and it was showing 15h7m (7h42m active) average battery life, with 5h3m (7h12m max) screen on time.
I am currently a little below that, 12h20m (7h33m active) average battery life, with 5h28m (5h17m max) SoT. I was on my phone basically all day Friday-Sunday and had it on and off the charger. I haven't really had a full cycle of waking up, using the phone all day, and going to bed yet.
The apps I am running now are almost all identical. I actually removed 2-3 of them after finding that Gravity Box could emulate the features of standalone apps that I was using.
I am not using Greenify (I didn't see any substantial gain from it), but I do have the Snapdragon Battery Guru.
Overall, I don't think it's worse.
This was my drain while I slept last night. That's even better than I thought it was. 4.4.2 BTW. I'm pretty sure I don't have any apps installed that haven't been updated since Kit Kat came out.
Having updated applications makes a huge difference.
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SymbioticGenius said:
This was my drain while I slept last night. That's even better than I thought it was. 4.4.2 BTW. I'm pretty sure I don't have any apps installed that haven't been updated since Kit Kat came out.
Having updated applications makes a huge difference.
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Some have got down to 0.5 per hour drain on standby, but I never could. Our x is about 1 also. Its strange, cause its set up about the same as my n5 and it can get to 0.4 usually, not in airplane mode either.
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The 5 is a beast on standby drain. I miss that. I'm not even going to try for less on the X. I just attribute it to the Touchless and Active Controls. Whether that's the case or not, who knows.
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SymbioticGenius said:
The 5 is a beast on standby drain. I miss that. I'm not even going to try for less on the X. I just attribute it to the Touchless and Active Controls. Whether that's the case or not, who knows.
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That's part of it I'm sure. Maybe the radio? Who knows what else. LOL
Still.....better battery at the end of the day than my n5....with my usage.
An extremely light user may get more mileage with lower standby for sure, but doesn't really affect my wife. She charges over night regardless.
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SymbioticGenius said:
The 5 is a beast on standby drain. I miss that. I'm not even going to try for less on the X. I just attribute it to the Touchless and Active Controls. Whether that's the case or not, who knows.
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I have always wondered if touchless and active notifications were the ones to be blamed for the average 1%/h drain on standby but never did a test to try it out, until today
I charged my phone to 100%, turned off touchless controls and active notifications and let it rest through the night, when I woke up 5h and a half later (yes, I usually don't get much time of sleep), I was still on 100%, just I did when I had my N4
I guess these stuff take so much battery because they have to keep the phone "awake" all the time to recognize your voice and to know if your phone is upside down or in your pocket or whatever and as much as motorola made them separate CPUs to handle it with less battery consuptiom, they still take that 1%/h... Probably we would get a higher %/h if it wasn't for the 8 chip processor motorola came up with
Actually I even think that it has something/all to do with the high android OS usage that we get, and to be honest, I really don't mind getting 1%/h drain on standby overnight if I can wake up any time in the morning and ask to my phone to do almost anything I want or check my notifications without having to light up the whole screen, so I'm quite pleased with it
hlaraujo said:
I have always wondered if touchless and active notifications were the ones to be blamed for the average 1%/h drain on standby but never did a test to try it out, until today
I charged my phone to 100%, turned off touchless controls and active notifications and let it rest through the night, when I woke up 5h and a half later (yes, I usually don't get much time of sleep), I was still on 100%, just I did when I had my N4
I guess these stuff take so much battery because they have to keep the phone "awake" all the time to recognize your voice and to know if your phone is upside down or in your pocket or whatever and as much as motorola made them separate CPUs to handle it with less battery consuptiom, they still take that 1%/h... Probably we would get a higher %/h if it wasn't for the 8 chip processor motorola came up with
Actually I even think that it has something/all to do with the high android OS usage that we get, and to be honest, I really don't mind getting 1%/h drain on standby overnight if I can wake up any time in the morning and ask to my phone to do almost anything I want or check my notifications without having to light up the whole screen, so I'm quite pleased with it
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Now we just need to test it througout the day with touchless control and active notifications off

Droid Turbo>s7 edge

I'm coming from a verizon Droid Turbo, and this phone struggles comparatively. First off, it's nearly impossible to type when my left palm is on the side of the screen edge. It constantly hits the symbol or caps lock button, creating errors. That's just bad design.
But aside from that, I bought this phone because I wanted even better battery life. I think my first day gave me something like 3 hrs of sot, and android system was the number one battery drain.
I ran a test last night. Didn't touch my phone for six hours, and I noticed it was held awake for 45 mins. And it didn't fully doze. I'm attaching the screen shots. What would cause this?
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I'm coming from a verizon Droid Turbo, and this phone struggles comparatively. First off, it's nearly impossible to type when my left palm is on the side of the screen edge. It constantly hits the symbol or caps lock button, creating errors. That's just bad design.
But aside from that, I bought this phone because I wanted even better battery life. I think my first day gave me something like 3 hrs of sot, and android system was the number one battery drain.
I ran a test last night. Didn't touch my phone for six hours, and I noticed it was held awake for 45 mins. And it didn't fully doze. I'm attaching the screen shots. What would cause this?
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Is this a joke? This phone beats that droid 810 hotstone in every aspect.
LOL
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toofimoofi said:
Is this a joke? This phone beats that droid 810 hotstone in every aspect.
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Battery life on Turbo is better. Ease of functional typing easier on Droid. I'm sure the specs on this are better, but like most people, I do basic Web, email, apps. I don't play games. I did that fine on my Turbo, without the hassle of sensitivity screen edge that made it impossible to type an email or text out. And the battery drain on this is terrible. 3.5 SCREEN On for Verizon users?
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Battery life on Turbo is better. Ease of functional typing easier on Droid. I'm sure the specs on this are better, but like most people, I do basic Web, email, apps. I don't play games. I did that fine on my Turbo, without the hassle of sensitivity screen edge that made it impossible to type an email or text out. And the battery drain on this is terrible. 3.5 SCREEN On for Verizon users?
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Have no drsin issues at all. Im on international version. And if you get a phone for easier typing, u can get a cheap androod phone with lpw specs. So ues, droid is a good choice for you
Coming from the turbo I'm having a hard time adjusting to the curved screen and phantom touches too. I also miss the chop for flashlight feature. However, waterproof, better camera, SD slot, and Samsung pay win me over.

Keep the Droid Turbo 2 or 5X?

I have the Nexus 5X and the Turbo 2, and I need to choose between the two devices, I'm coming from the Moto X 2014. I've been using the 5X for a couple days and I do like it, but there are a few annoyances to me, mainly the speaker when streaming podcasts and such.
I'm just having trouble deciding between a sleek, stock android, but cheaper built Google phone and the powerful, hefty, bloated, but higher build quality Motorola phone.
Kind of stumped on this one, but leaning towards the Turbo 2 because I feel it'd last a bit longer. I know only I can decide what phone I want, but just looking for some opinions.
I keep the both.
I've been debating the same thing with my wife's Turbo 2. The battery life gets here through the day but that's it. I'm very underwhelmed by it. It gets about 2.5 hours of screen on time from 7am to 7pm and that leaves the battery anywhere from 50% and sometimes down to 25%. I really thought Doze would clean up any errant apps she might have keeping it awake, but so, far it's been exactly the same. Even overnight it still uses up to 25% of the battery just sitting on the table. I'd like to switch her to the Nexus 5X, I know Doze would work properly, but with the much smaller battery, I don't know how it would hold up throughout the day. She'd prefer not having to charge a second time just to make it through the evening.
She also had the Moto X 2014 previously and the battery life on it was the only downside. Never traveled anywhere without a travel charger because it just couldn't be trusted to make it past 12 hours.
Do it. Once you go Nexus, you never go back. Unless you're an idiot like me lol.
My friend had the Nexus 5 - I thought the processor was very slow nice feel but needs more of a motor
That's tough...
What does she do on her phone? What do you think the upsides of getting her a nexus vs the dt2? Any benefits you think you will lose when switching? Personally.... I really don't know... After kind of being stuck on a contract with the DT2 (or else paying an arm and a leg) I think the DT2 is an awesome phone. I personally wouldn't switch because I love the speed, power, endurance, screen (shatterproof part, the actualy P-Oled is only okay) and clean stock android (with tons of bloat). However, I can live with the downsides. I obviously get the Fi benefits and the NEXUS support but, again, it's all tradeoffs. In the end, it's your decision. Speed and endurance, vs software and fingerprint sensor.

It's almost 2018, is moto x style still good enough to deal with it?

Hi guys!
I wanted to ask you how this phone defend itself in this time. Is it still good enough for the upcoming 2018?
I heard that the processor was overheating and it had similar problems with battery like his little bro moto x 2014.
The phone is good enough... the battery is life and longevity is garbage, this phones primary weakness is the battery and without it being replaceable easily with a good, quality replacement (which is hard to find) it just falls short.
Does it get warm... yup. The CPU and display are both battery hogs, and the battery Moto used is honestly at the end of it's life or near it for most people.
Thank you very much!
One more question. How's looking moto/ambient display on it?
I have Moto G 2015 (osprey) and Moto X 2014 (victara) and sometimes ambient display on osprey looks a bit bad because of it's IPS panel...
Doker1113 said:
Thank you very much!
One more question. How's looking moto/ambient display on it?
I have Moto G 2015 (osprey) and Moto X 2014 (victara) and sometimes ambient display on osprey looks a bit bad because of it's IPS panel...
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Ambient Display on the Moto X Pure is a little different... assuming you have the latest Nougat, it is one pulse of information, it doesn't repeat. Honestly, I find it of little use and disable it.
It sounds like you are looking at buying one... All I can say is don't bother at this point unless you are getting an really incredible bargain, like under 20% of the cost new, because the battery is that bad especially after this much time. There are much better bargains out there.
Since you have had a Moto G 2015 (and I did as well) let me give you a comparison... I found the X got 1/2-2/3 of the battery life of the Moto G 2015 when new, and that actually got worse. By the time I got rid of my MXPE after about 18 months of normal use, I was unable to get 2 hours of SOT over a 5 hour period and was charging 2-3 times per day, where the Moto G 2015 which was actually about 3 or 4 months older was still getting 3.5 hours of SOT and making it through a full day.
Def good enough. I bought an S8+ after having the Moto for 2 years. Development sucks for the American S8+. The only positive is better battery life, in my opinion. The display is kinda wonky on the Galaxy compared to the Moto as well. I was just praising the amount of flexibility allowed by the Moto in an S8+ thread. Yea, battery sucks but it charges quick. I still found myself charging less often and a hell of a lot more quickly than my coworkers with their crappy iPhones.
Battery life is not a problem for me. Still it lasts the whole day. There is a bunch of 7.1.2 roms which decrease the battery life noticeably. Stock or AICP, no problems with battery life. It gets hot by hard usage, yes.
Maybe really hard phone users wont last the day.
And any non-replaceable battery is replaceable. It just involves taking the phone apart.
Waiting for some 8.0 rom to test.
Now that I have 7.0 using the Sprint SIM trick on VZW and managed to get WiFi Calling working i think this phone is pretty sweet for the $250 I paid for it.
I would not buy this phone again, battery life is crap and cpu overheats even with easy 2d games (lol). Also there are common graphics glitches (like colors being way off for no reason or display looking broken with white stripes or something) that happen once 1-3 months (that's really strange) - sure they disappear after reboot but it makes this phone unreliable. Also the backlight quality in some devices is very bad.
yeah the screen, camera, speakers and build quality are very good. I have my Moto X Pure running on Carbon and it's very good. I'm gonna get a Moto Z next week though
As a backup phone for running Youtube TV or letting my daughter play with, absolutely. As a daily driver, not a chance in hell. The battery discharges too fast, the phone over heats, and the NFC is very spotty after 3 years.
Personally, I could get by easily with a Palm Pre or an Epic 4g. For my use the battery lasts all day and I get about 4.5 hrs of sot on average. I dont notice alot of heating up personally on AEX rom with handbag kernel.
Because nothing else is yet!
The answer is yes... because it's the only thing "good enough to deal with." Aside from the basics, I have six standard criteria for choosing a mobile device, of which five absolutely must be met (Verizon compatibility, unlockable bootloader, excellent screen, acceptable camera, price, and software). The Pure Edition soundly meets all six, and then some. No other device (at this point in time) can match that. The deteriorating battery situation is a bummer, but largely overblown by people (like myself) who used Magisk and got stuck with the whole magisk-daemon-eating-up-the-battery situation.
With that said, I've always got my eyes open for devices that can satisfy these six basic criteria, but in the meantime, I'll count my blessings. I've researched dozens upon dozens of different phones, and the only thing that this research makes me feel is thankfulness for the Pure Edition, because I don't know what I'd do without it, at least for the long term.

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