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Review from Android Authority

Android Authority just released there video review of the Mate 7, while they do decent reviews in a realistic way it says a lot when they gave him a "EDITOR'S CHOICE"
Nice review, this is gonna make it harder for me to choice which device i go for in 2 months from now. (Nexus 6, Note4, Mate 7)

wimmetje said:
Android Authority just released there video review of the Mate 7, while they do decent reviews in a realistic way it says a lot when they gave him a "EDITOR'S CHOICE"
Nice review, this is gonna make it harder for me to choice which device i go for in 2 months from now. (Nexus 6, Note4, Mate 7)
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Its a good review indeed and I'm pretty much on the same boat as you word er gek van!
The specs aren't that great compared to the note 4/nexus 6 tho.
The thing that I do like is the battery size.
I'm concerned about the software updates tho, Huawei doesn't have a good track record of that.

Sammath said:
Its a good review indeed and I'm pretty much on the same boat as you word er gek van!
The specs aren't that great compared to the note 4/nexus 6 tho.
The thing that I do like is the battery size.
I'm concerned about the software updates tho, Huawei doesn't have a good track record of that.
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Yes. That announcement in the US for non-upgrade of mate 2 is disappointing.

Sammath said:
Its a good review indeed and I'm pretty much on the same boat as you word er gek van!
The specs aren't that great compared to the note 4/nexus 6 tho.
The thing that I do like is the battery size.
I'm concerned about the software updates tho, Huawei doesn't have a good track record of that.
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vince_junior said:
Yes. That announcement in the US for non-upgrade of mate 2 is disappointing.
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The specs are indeed not comparable with the Note 4 and the Nexus 6, but it comes very close to them (especially when you keep in mind it is 200$/euro cheaper) and in normal day to day usage you wouldn't notice the difference anyway because in speed, screen quality the difference is to small to notice. (If you dont compare them everyday)
But also my major concern of the Mate 7 is the official update support and rom development, because when i buy a new phone/renewal contract i keep the phone for 2 years.
And if they do the same trick as they did with the "Mate 2" it would be very disappointing, an update support for 24 months on a new device (Mate 7) would be in place if they want to compete against Samsung and Apple.
And second it comes to custom rom development....when do not update the phone in a proper way (or not what i had in mind) i want to be able to flash custom roms, and while there is ROM development on different Chinese forums, i am a bit skeptical if there going to be enough development on this XDA forum.
And i have not enough free time (Father, 3 kids ) that i can make my own roms they way i did in the past on my galaxy S1.
This is my vision at the moment.
I have not decided yet, my renewal is on the first week of januari 2015 so i have almost 2 months to look where the Mate 7 development is going to

wimmetje said:
The specs are indeed not comparable with the Note 4 and the Nexus 6, but it comes very close to them (especially when you keep in mind it is 200$/euro cheaper) and in normal day to day usage you wouldn't notice the difference anyway because in speed, screen quality the difference is to small to notice. (If you dont compare them everyday)
But also my major concern of the Mate 7 is the official update support and rom development, because when i buy a new phone/renewal contract i keep the phone for 2 years.
And if they do the same trick as they did with the "Mate 2" it would be very disappointing, an update support for 24 months on a new device (Mate 7) would be in place if they want to compete against Samsung and Apple.
And second it comes to custom rom development....when do not update the phone in a proper way (or not what i had in mind) i want to be able to flash custom roms, and while there is ROM development on different Chinese forums, i am a bit skeptical if there going to be enough development on this XDA forum.
And i have not enough free time (Father, 3 kids ) that i can make my own roms they way i did in the past on my galaxy S1.
This is my vision at the moment.
I have not decided yet, my renewal is on the first week of januari 2015 so i have almost 2 months to look where the Mate 7 development is going to
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Well, the review said it's 700 dollars. That ain't cheaper than a nexus 6. Pretty expensive for the hardware you get imo.
I'm still undecided, depends if the 3gb 32 gig version comes to The Netherlands.

Sammath said:
Well, the review said it's 700 dollars. That ain't cheaper than a nexus 6. Pretty expensive for the hardware you get imo.
I'm still undecided, depends if the 3gb 32 gig version comes to The Netherlands.
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The premium version will not come to Holland.

getmobilephone said:
The premium version will not come to Holland.
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Okay, Huawei will not get my money then

Sammath said:
Well, the review said it's 700 dollars. That ain't cheaper than a nexus 6. Pretty expensive for the hardware you get imo.
I'm still undecided, depends if the 3gb 32 gig version comes to The Netherlands.
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499 euro in the netherlands for the 2gb/16gb version and 549 euro for the 3gb/32gb version, see link below
Note 4 is 700 euro and Nexus should be around (guessing) 650 euro?
The 3 versions in dutch webshop
So yeah, the price difference isn't that much (200-300euro) if you keep in mind that i use the phone 2 years.
So i hope that the mediamarkt or another phone shop is getting the Huawei on stock so i can see and try it out in my own eyes and hands :laugh:

Phonearena just did a comparison. I am disappointed with the camera tbh and was hoping for better quality but this is an area huawei are quite weak.

wimmetje said:
499 euro in the netherlands for the 2gb/16gb version and 549 euro for the 3gb/32gb version, see link below
Note 4 is 700 euro and Nexus should be around (guessing) 650 euro?
The 3 versions in dutch webshop
So yeah, the price difference isn't that much (200-300euro) if you keep in mind that i use the phone 2 years.
So i hope that the mediamarkt or another phone shop is getting the Huawei on stock so i can see and try it out in my own eyes and hands :laugh:
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Thats a nice price for the 3gb version. Hopefully it will become available then. I'm not downgrading to a 2gb version, my note 3 has 3gigs of ram and it's always full.
Btw, on that site the nexus 6 32gb is listed as cheaper at 449 euro.

Sammath said:
Thats a nice price for the 3gb version. Hopefully it will become available then. I'm not downgrading to a 2gb version, my note 3 has 3gigs of ram and it's always full.
Btw, on that site the nexus 6 32gb is listed as cheaper at 449 euro.
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Wow I didn't see that price of the nexus 6
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wimmetje said:
499 euro in the netherlands for the 2gb/16gb version and 549 euro for the 3gb/32gb version, see link below
Note 4 is 700 euro and Nexus should be around (guessing) 650 euro?
The 3 versions in dutch webshop
So yeah, the price difference isn't that much (200-300euro) if you keep in mind that i use the phone 2 years.
So i hope that the mediamarkt or another phone shop is getting the Huawei on stock so i can see and try it out in my own eyes and hands :laugh:
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Good prize for the Gold in 3 Go of ram and 32 Go of memory but not in stock ... it's a real dual sim or only european 1 sim ?
What's happening with the warranty on this site and full compatible in Belgium with Base, Mobistar or Proximus ?

Hi all, and especially the Dutch posting here :highfive:
I've been considering this phone ever since I heard about it. I've got big hands and love the wideness of the Note 3. Most phones are long, but slim. The Mate7 is even a little bit wider, and has smaller bezels. Sounds perfect! That it doesn't have the best hardware doesn't bother me that much, if the batterylife is half of what it seems to be.
Has anyone gotten their hands on one of the Mate7's, preferably with 3GB RAM, and know how it's batterylife is doing? And if in Europe, where did you order yours? What would be a good shop?

dekraan said:
Hi all, and especially the Dutch posting here :highfive:
I've been considering this phone ever since I heard about it. I've got big hands and love the wideness of the Note 3. Most phones are long, but slim. The Mate7 is even a little bit wider, and has smaller bezels. Sounds perfect! That it doesn't have the best hardware doesn't bother me that much, if the batterylife is half of what it seems to be.
Has anyone gotten their hands on one of the Mate7's, preferably with 3GB RAM, and know how it's batterylife is doing? And if in Europe, where did you order yours? What would be a good shop?
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The battery life is awesome, 4100 mHa! You can order the international version at Amazon DE France, for 2 GB RAM L09 version. We have sold units 3 GB RAM TL10 version to Holland and it works perfectly there.

Thanks for your reply! Do you know when the black 3GB version will be released? The gold doesn't really appeal to me. The live chat at liaow told me it could take a couple of weeks.

dekraan said:
Thanks for your reply! Do you know when the black 3GB version will be released? The gold doesn't really appeal to me. The live chat at liaow told me it could take a couple of weeks.
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Our HUAWEI lady said not in a month or so. The silver version is running as limited production now. Really, the Gold looks very nice in hands, confirmed by several forum members (who also are our customers).
The Gold version is also OOS and the situation will last till Mid December. In this month, HUAWEI will deliver 1.4 M units to China Mobile, China TeleCom, and China UniCom. So the premium version, 3 GB ROM 32 GB RAM version, will be limited manufactured.

Glad to hear T-Mobile and AT&T LTE work on it..

Would you buy a new Moto X now?

Hi,
I've an offer for a new Moto X (black, 16 GB memory) for a stipulated price about 180€ (200$). What do you think about the device today? Does it make sense to buy the Moto X for this price today? I like really the size of the phone and can't find another one with good hardware specifications on the market as the Moto X has. Can you told me something about the performance with Lollipop, the camera and the battery life? Will the Moto X get the new Android M, too?
I'm looking forward to your replies.
Cheers!
Michael

engadini said:
Hi,
I've an offer for a new Moto X (black, 16 GB memory) for a stipulated price about 180€ (200$). What do you think about the device today? Does it make sense to buy the Moto X for this price today? I like really the size of the phone and can't find another one with good hardware specifications on the market as the Moto X has. Can you told me something about the performance with Lollipop, the camera and the battery life? Will the Moto X get the new Android M, too?
I'm looking forward to your replies.
Cheers!
Michael
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my opinion is $200 is a little high, you did not mention what model, i bought a new xt1053 developers edition 32gb on ebay about 6 or 8 months ago for $199 ant its retail gsm unlocked with the ability to unlock the bootloader, we have 4 xt1058 att's here and all updated to lollipop and so far the only issues with one device is some lost contacts after the ota, not to much of a deference in battery life, there is a noticeable difference in performance due to running on art (i would say), amazon has the gsm unlocked which im sure is the xt1058 black for $115 and white for $118, just put this (Motorola Moto X - 16GB, Unlocked Phone) in amazon search bar

Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot to say that I'm from Germany and only the XT1052 is available here. Of course the device is unlocked. The actually price is about 240€ and more (amazon, ebay and so one) here in Germany. So I think that my 180€ offer should be a good deal.

engadini said:
Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot to say that I'm from Germany and only the XT1052 is available here. Of course the device is unlocked. The actually price is about 240€ and more (amazon, ebay and so one) here in Germany. So I think that my 180€ offer should be a good deal.
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sounds like you know what your doing

hugh a said:
sounds like you know what your doing
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I just think that the price might be okay Would you buy the device one again for this price? Or would you prefer another one?! Maybe the Moto G 3rd Gen. The price for this one is about 230€*for the 16GB model with 2 GB RAM (without MotoMaker).

Hi.
Well I've just bought one. I picked up a very good condition one off eBay this week for £87. I got it yesterday. I have to say I'm impressed with the build and form factor.
I was using a Nexus S for about 3 years and decided that it was time for an upgrade, event though I loved that phone to bits.
I wanted to spend max £100 and buy something I could flash a ROM on, so I went for a Samsung S3. It's a nice phone but just hate the home button with a vengeance and the capacitive buttons. They make the phone way too big. I guess I just hate big phone. They just don't do anything for me. It's also too slippy with its all plastic design.
So I decided I needed a smaller phone with no hardware buttons and the Moto X seemed like the perfect fit. After two days using it I have to say it's a lovely device. Build quality is top notch and the size is just perfect for one handed use. And because it's pretty much stock Android and not Touchwiz I'm not in the mood to flash a ROM at all. I'm more than happy with the software at the moment. I can always flash a ROM at a later date.
So yes go for it!
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I would buy it, its the most powerfull and feature packed phone in this price and screen size range.
For me, the only alternative is the Samsung Galaxy Alpha.
The only thing you have to make shure is, if 16 GB storage is enough for your needs.
greetings

Let me tell you the story of Moto X 2nd Gen here in India. It's available for INR 30000 which is about 460 USD. And if you get your screen broken (which magically is turning into a very frequent phenomenon) your costs from the Moto Service Centre comes around INR 20000 which is 311 USD approx. So yeah , no one's gonna buy it in their right mind. Specs and improvements don't mean anything if the post sale services are that much of a pain.
Holding the whole Galaxy in my hand.

brother every phone has its merits and demerits, but what we want is important, like u i couldn't find a piece with this specs and the size like moto x, so think about it:good:

I probably would. I got the moto x gen 1 when it came out an I'm still struggling to find any alternative. Everything else is too big. Also I don't really feel like I need an upgrade because I'm satisfied with everything. Performance isn't the fastest but its perfectly find and doesn't lag. The form factor is the best thing. The only alternative I have found is sony z3c but I will only get that if something happens to this. Since its more expensive and it has a glass back which could break. I was really hoping 2015 moto x would have a smaller option but sadly they just went bigger

I got my xt1092 16gb for $480 australian from eBay. But a bit disappointed on design as not very flexible, eg: no SD card slot and too little memory not sure why its this way but anyhow Motorola phones are no longer developed by Motorola engineers but LeNovo engineers... So I don't know is that means as much to you as much as it means for me.
I had a lot of fun with my Razor previously but as it seems, there is no Cyanogen alternative for us on Moto X vitara...
I can sell you mine if you want its in perfect condition for 100€ .

Warren_Orange said:
Hi.
Well I've just bought one. I picked up a very good condition one off eBay this week for £87. I got it yesterday. I have to say I'm impressed with the build and form factor.
I was using a Nexus S for about 3 years and decided that it was time for an upgrade, event though I loved that phone to bits.
I wanted to spend max £100 and buy something I could flash a ROM on, so I went for a Samsung S3. It's a nice phone but just hate the home button with a vengeance and the capacitive buttons. They make the phone way too big. I guess I just hate big phone. They just don't do anything for me. It's also too slippy with its all plastic design.
So I decided I needed a smaller phone with no hardware buttons and the Moto X seemed like the perfect fit. After two days using it I have to say it's a lovely device. Build quality is top notch and the size is just perfect for one handed use. And because it's pretty much stock Android and not Touchwiz I'm not in the mood to flash a ROM at all. I'm more than happy with the software at the moment. I can always flash a ROM at a later date.
So yes go for it!
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i agree with you phones are just to big now, very cumbersome, the moto x 1st gen fits my hand perfect with a outterbox commuter series case, so far its my all time favorite

vonz33 said:
I got my xt1092 16gb for $480 australian from eBay. But a bit disappointed on design as not very flexible, eg: no SD card slot and too little memory not sure why its this way but anyhow Motorola phones are no longer developed by Motorola engineers but LeNovo engineers... So I don't know is that means as much to you as much as it means for me.
I had a lot of fun with my Razor previously but as it seems, there is no Cyanogen alternative for us on Moto X vitara...
I can sell you mine if you want its in perfect condition for 100€ .
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I read bunch of articles stating that although Lenovo owns Motorola, it doesn't interfere with the design and engineering aspects of manufacturing the Moto devices. Theyre probably just concerned with their bottom line. I purchased my Moto X just a month ago for about 120$ new 16gigs, I was hesitant at first considering the old specs compared to what is out there but I couldn't resist the design, size and the 2years of developments to still make it run superbly.
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Amazing phone man and I have owned them all. So impressed by the speed and how fluent it is, but if I was buying one again, I would make sure it's on kit kat, so I could flash a lollipop version that didn't have the bootloader updated because lots of people with issues on lollipop.

I have no idea why you should pay twice more for Chinese quality). Buy US models, which working well in EU for $100 and be happy like me Nothing compares to the phone yet

vikramkhalsa said:
I probably would. I got the moto x gen 1 when it came out an I'm still struggling to find any alternative. Everything else is too big. Also I don't really feel like I need an upgrade because I'm satisfied with everything. Performance isn't the fastest but its perfectly find and doesn't lag. The form factor is the best thing. The only alternative I have found is sony z3c but I will only get that if something happens to this. Since its more expensive and it has a glass back which could break. I was really hoping 2015 moto x would have a smaller option but sadly they just went bigger
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You and I think alike.. Me too think only solid phone in this form factor is z3c.. But the camera review is not that great.. They just bumped the specs.. I'm having a hard time finding a great phone under 5inch size.. Any ideas? Really disappointed with OPO2! ARE THEY NOT THINKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE SMALL HANDS AND PREFER SMALLER DEVICES? Such a shame
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I'll be waiting for the new Moto X Pure Edition.
I have been told by Motorola support that it WILL be bootloader unlocked for Verizon.

Seems like there is no other good option Although I was playing with a samsung galaxy s6 the other day, both edge and regular.. they're actually not that bad! solid build quality and not thaat much bigger than our moto x. Just a little bigger but still not as wide as 2014 moto x or other phones. I might consider it but its soo expensive..

I have a Note 4 and would have got the Note 5 if had an sd slot, but it apparently does not. The front facing speakers, sd slot and 64GB internal storage for $500 to $550 for a Moto X Pure seems too good to pass up
The only concern but a biggy is battery life. I will buy from Best Buy and then return it if battery life is an issue. Heck, even if the Note 5 had an sd slot I would consider the Moto X Pure due to price and features

I'm getting the style also but with an SD slot, 16gb is all I need. I only use around 4gb for apps now. If battery is your thing, get the moto x with a 3600 mah battery, and 5.5 1080p. They should of made the 3600 mah standard for both.

Some questions before I order?

I am very excited to order a new Moto G4 Plus, it will be a replacement for my One Plus X which was stolen about 6 weeks ago.
Amazon UK have the following listing:
Motorola Moto G4 Plus 16GB Dual SIM-Free Smartphone - White - Exclusive to Amazon for £199 (€221/$248)
The Dual SIM would be useful for my work number, but not at the price of a white phone!
Am I correct the Moto G4 Plus cannot be bought for that price dual SIM in black?
If so would it be possible and cost effective to order that white dual SIM model and a black front and back bezel?
Otherwise I was thinking of ordering this model:
Motorola Moto G4 Plus 16GB SIM-Free Smartphone - Black (Single SIM) - (Exclusive to Amazon) for £199
Unless there are issues with heat or performance with that model and I should consider a 3GB RAM model instead? I have a 128GB Sandisk MicroSD card so I thought I could get by with 16GB of on board memory...

dusf said:
Am I correct the Moto G4 Plus cannot be bought for that price dual SIM in black?
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That's correct.
dusf said:
If so would it be possible and cost effective to order that white dual SIM model and a black front and back bezel?
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The G4 Plus is available in black directly from Motorola for £229.00
www.motorola.co.uk/products/motomaker/FLEXR10UK?version=16MP32GB&front-color=color-black

HE4VYCR0WN said:
The G4 Plus is available in black directly from Motorola for £229.00
www.motorola.co.uk/products/motomaker/FLEXR10UK?version=16MP32GB&front-color=color-black
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Thanks, I think I would pay the £30 for the bump from 16GB to 32GB, in black, and dual SIM. I do not see anywhere on that page it is dual SIM, are you absolutely certain it is?

dusf said:
Thanks, I think I would pay the £30 for the bump from 16GB to 32GB, in black, and dual SIM. I do not see anywhere on that page it is dual SIM, are you absolutely certain it is?
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I just read on another page:
Dual SIM standard on all Moto Maker Moto G4 Plus handsets.
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This may not be relevant considering the reasons you're upgrading from OPX, but given my few days experience with OPX you'd miss its fantastic OLED display on MOTO G. At the cost of sounding discouraging, being a current Moto G4 plus user I'd recommend considering another phone for your intended purpose of upgrading. This is based on my two month rigorous use and finding far too many issues with Moto G4 plus for its hype. For one, unless you aren't fond of dedicating a few hours each day flashing ROMs and tweaking settings or installing mods, heating-up and ghost touch issues, apart from Moto G's build and design are not easy to accept for the price you pay for this fourth moto G iteration which is far from its predecessors' in terms of quality and performance.
As for the memory, going from 16 to 32 gig is surely worthwhile though only if there weren't other 32Gig phones out there offering better performance at prolly more competent prices.
Sorry if I sound sore, but couldn't help being honest with what I've learned from buying this phone.
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Frances91 said:
This may not be relevant considering the reasons you're upgrading from OPX, but given my few days experience with OPX you'd miss its fantastic OLED display on MOTO G. At the cost of sounding discouraging, being a current Moto G4 plus user I'd recommend considering another phone for your intended purpose of upgrading. This is based on my two month rigorous use and finding far too many issues with Moto G4 plus for its hype. For one, unless you aren't fond of dedicating a few hours each day flashing ROMs and tweaking settings or installing mods, heating-up and ghost touch issues, apart from Moto G's build and design are not easy to accept for the price you pay for this fourth moto G iteration which is far from its predecessors' in terms of quality and performance.
As for the memory, going from 16 to 32 gig is surely worthwhile though only if there weren't other 32Gig phones out there offering better performance at prolly more competent prices.
Sorry if I sound sore, but couldn't help being honest with what I've learned from buying this phone.
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Oh, I had thought the heat issues were resolved!
I actually ordered a few days go, Motorola's website told me so, but then sent me an email saying it was cancelled. I queried this with support and they told me it was because my bank declined the transfer, but I spoke with my bank and they said Motorola never tried to take the money!
I just ordered again about an hour ago...
What phone would you recommend instead? I was pretty set on the Moto G4 Plus

Why don't get a Note 7 instead.

HE4VYCR0WN said:
Why don't get a Note 7 instead.
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I don't have a G4 Plus but I do have a G4 XT1625. It blows my previous Moto G2 out of the water in performance, battery life and reliability. No major issues at all on stock or with the custom ROM I now use. I have been using it for about two months and couldn't be happier with it.

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And why not shoot yourself in the foot at the same time? Do you not read the news? The Note 7 has had more issues than any phone in the history of smartphones. Samsung has lost over $2 billion due to Note 7 issues and recalls. Even the replacements for the original recalls have been pulled off the market. Avoid the Note 7 like the plague.
I don't have a G4 Plus but I do have a G4 XT1625. It blows my previous Moto G2 out of the water in performance, battery life and reliability. No major issues at all on stock or with the custom ROM I now use. I have been using it for about two months and couldn't be happier with it.
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You know what irony and sarcasm is, right?

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You know what irony and sarcasm is, right?
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Okay, I missed that. But he was asking for serious advice so I guess I didn't expect it. Just sayin'.

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Okay, I missed that. But he was asking for serious advice so I guess I didn't expect it. Just sayin'.
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That was the laughing smiley for.

Okay, so it seems most would recommend their Moto G4 Plus.
Another 'Moto-maker' order cancelled by Motorola UK. After speaking with 3 technical support agents through their web based Live Chat, and being unable to get a clear answer from either one of them, I phoned and spoke with someone whose first language was actually English, and they explained the orders were cancelled because I was using a redirection service.
As I am in the Republic of Ireland I cannot order directly from Motorola UK, instead I tried using the same forwarder I always use for this kind of thing, but it is blacklsited by Motorola UK. Not sure what to do now, I really want a black dual SIM 32GB G4 Plus, but I do not want to pay Amazon an extra £39 for the privilege! It would be a real shame if I had to instead opt for the black single sim 16GB model from Amazon.
I am not sure what to do now, perhaps see if any family have friends in the UK that would manually forward it.

Sorry about that, I wasn't aware you'd already ordered for one, could have toned down the bad stuff I've had to say.
I guess, having shopped around a bit, doesn't look like there's much to choose from if I were to get a different phone, besides to be more honest my budget won't allow an upgrade just as yet. So guess I'll live with it for now and while my time away installing and uninstalling programs to squeeze out whatever good I can from my Moto G4 Plus.
And yes, majority moto g4 owners do seem to be swearing by their phones, that should ideally suffice to join their lot, besides making it worth buying considering there's going to be no dearth of dedicated forums and communities and such.
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FWIW, there are things I'd like to see like NFC, a magnetic compass and water repellent like the G3 but all in all it's a pretty solid phone for the price. Oh yea, it doesn't have the built-in heater like some Samsung phones but I can live without that.
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x4 vs pure

so i have a question for everyone.
being that the delays are significant for updates and we havent seen an update since february, the delay on this is like a middle finger to us MXP users with just a 7.0 update. so i have a question.
would you sell the pure for the android one x4? and why or why not?

Android One edition? Yes. Google is handling the updates, so you shouldn't have to wait a year to get an out of date OS. But I am not in the market. My Pure still works. I would still be using my phone from 2014 if I didn't shatter the screen. Twice.
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Loaded question... would I sell my Pure to get a X4? Absolutely, if I could get the X4 for what I sold my Pure for...
Otherwise, I see the X4 as G5 Plus with a few golly gee whiz-bang add ons and that's it. All the Android reviewers keep ohhhing and ahhhing over it, but I just don't see the big deal at that price point... If it was $100 less, maybe.
Just an FYI... I sold my 32GB Pure in mint condition with 3 like new brand-name cases and a couple extra tempered glass screen protectors for $180 a month ago, and I was actually pretty surprised I got that much, would have taken $150 or $160 just to get rid of it, started asking $200 and it sat for a month with no interest.

acejavelin said:
Loaded question... would I sell my Pure to get a X4? Absolutely, if I could get the X4 for what I sold my Pure for...
Otherwise, I see the X4 as G5 Plus with a few golly gee whiz-bang add ons and that's it. All the Android reviewers keep ohhhing and ahhhing over it, but I just don't see the big deal at that price point... If it was $100 less, maybe.
Just an FYI... I sold my 32GB Pure in mint condition with 3 like new brand-name cases and a couple extra tempered glass screen protectors for $180 a month ago, and I was actually pretty surprised I got that much, would have taken $150 or $160 just to get rid of it, started asking $200 and it sat for a month with no interest.
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well i ask because i have the 64 gig with black leather and red accent. just had it replaced by moto care 1 month ago and im considering it but im not sure

Jonathanlc2005 said:
well i ask because i have the 64 gig with black leather and red accent. just had it replaced by moto care 1 month ago and im considering it but im not sure
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Unfortunately, once these phones hit 2 years from release, the price plummets... I usually use Swappa as a good reference for prices, the 64GB version is averaging about $217 as of August, and I expect the September price to be closer to $210. (Ignore the $240 recent price average for the 16GB model, it's obviously a glitch).
Good luck though, depending on your local area that price could vary quite a bit. Around here cell phones usually go a tad on the high side, so take it for what it's worth.

I would not go for any moto again after x style, simple answer.

iks8 said:
I would not go for any moto again after x style, simple answer.
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Eh... Still tough to ignore the value in a phone that has an unlockable bootloader, (mostly) pure Android, quality build and specs. And for US users, the Verizon and Sprint CDMA network compatibility.

acejavelin said:
Eh... Still tough to ignore the value in a phone that has an unlockable bootloader, (mostly) pure Android, quality build and specs. And for US users, the Verizon and Sprint CDMA network compatibility.
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And also to top it off, those stereo front firing speakers! Lol

snapdragon 630 it is.. better than 625 and 626 tho
it has Bluetooth 5 with new feature which i guess everyone knows+it will have a better camera than mi a1 and g5s+
it's android one (we can atleast hope for android q)
it has it's own camera app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motorola.imagertuning_payton&hl=en
so we can expect better pic quality+sharper img's
but only things missing are dual front facing stereo speakers , 4k display and main thing moto maker!!( i actually hate the new upcoming moto model designs)
if it's below $300 i would go for it straight up!

This is part of the reason why I would not go from MXPE to X4. Graphical performance is important to me, and the Adreno 508 in the X4 is not very impressive. If you check out the offscreen scores where both devices are rending at the same resolution. Onscreen the MXPE runs at 1440p and the X4 at 1080p, so the X4 isn't rendering as many pixels and still can't beat the pure by more than a few FPS at best.
https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?be...=Qualcomm+Adreno+(TM)+418&D2=Motorola+Moto+X4

That 5.2" display is kind of meh to me. I think anything smaller than 5.5" or so would be hard to get used to after using this 5.7" one for a couple of years.

jason2678 said:
That 5.2" display is kind of meh to me. I think anything smaller than 5.5" or so would be hard to get used to after using this 5.7" one for a couple of years.
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It's not... First few days felt odd, but within a week using the big screen seemed awkward after using a G5+.

2GB RAM vs 4GB RAM? (US Model)

I realize this question has been asked before, but since the phone has been out for a while since the last thread I found I figured people who've been using it for a long time might have some more insight.
Do you think 2gb is worth it compared to 4gb? I don't game on my phone, but I do multitasking rather heavily (social media, a couple chrome tabs, sms, music, etc. Open at a time).
To complicate it a little further, I had the 4GB variant of this phone before, but broke it :'( and I am looking for a replacement. Typical price for 2GB/4GB is still $229/$300 respectively, but lately some great deals have popped up for the 2GB version. A local store by my is selling 2GB version for $190 right now. I haven't found any decent deals on the 4GB version, but I figure with deals this month there will be some at lower price.
Tl;Dr: should I buy the 2GB version for $190, spend the $300 for 4GB, or wait for better deal on 4GB version?
Appreciate any opinions or insight, especially from people who have been using the 2GB Moto G5+

Just get the 4GB... Better resale value if anything, if you're going to keep it for years, then even more of a reason to not be cheap about it. Besides, I've been seeing it for $250 recently. I bought mine at BB 6 months ago for $240ish.

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Just get the 4GB... Better resale value if anything, if you're going to keep it for years, then even more of a reason to not be cheap about it. Besides, I've been seeing it for $250 recently. I bought mine at BB 6 months ago for $240ish.
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Hmm, alright I'll probably just keep an eye out for sales. I haven't seen any like that tho, everywhere right now seems to have 2gb cheap but 4gb still at 300. Thanks for the input.

danageis said:
Hmm, alright I'll probably just keep an eye out for sales. I haven't seen any like that tho, everywhere right now seems to have 2gb cheap but 4gb still at 300. Thanks for the input.
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I would agree with previous response, 4GB or skip it for someone other than the casual user, which you don't seem to be... You will get lots of app closures/re-opening while task swapping with 2GB ram, next to none with 4GB.
The 4GB version goes on sale from time to time at around $250, although at full retail I might look at something else.
Honestly, if price is such a factor... Look at the E4 Plus which regularly sells about $170, 5.5" screen, 2gb ram, 32gb storage, 5000mAh battery.

Don't know if this is legit or not, but...
https://www.n1wireless.com/moto-g5-plus-xt1687-64gb-smartphone-unlocked-lunar-gray.html

I have the 2gb version. I love it. No issues with ram and such. I had the s7edge before this and it is almost the same if not better switching between apps/ battery life than that phone. Maybe just my rom/kernel. I would just get the cheaper one. Save your money, I'm done spending way too much on phones. I was looking at that E4 tho.....I want a 5000mah battery....

Niemer said:
Don't know if this is legit or not, but...
https://www.n1wireless.com/moto-g5-plus-xt1687-64gb-smartphone-unlocked-lunar-gray.html
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G5s is out and aside from camera it's basically identical, so $219 sounds very realistic. Unfortunately, it's why I'm probably switching to another brand. Motorola (lenovo) hasn't been good with real updates, and they keep saturating their own product lines every 6 months, which means it can only get worse...
The U11 can be bought for $400, as well as, Essential (although essential is iffy brand right now).

Thanks for all the replies guys. I ended up going with the 4GB version after finding it for $225 US. I had looked at the E4+, and would definitely have considered it if it came with a little more powerful processor option.
For anyone looking for a good deal on the 4GB model, Newegg is selling it for $225US and that comes with a free Bluetooth speaker and free shipping option! Speaker is probably not great, but I thought that was a great deal after not finding a much of anything under $300 for the past couple weeks.