Heating Issue On G4 Plus... - Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers

I am thinking to buy moto G4 plus...
But what I am concerned about is the heating issue.
I had read some review where some says that during gaming it heats up.
I would like the users to please clarify this.
I just like the device too much.
If there is heating issue then its unusual or what.
When it heats and after how much of gaming does it starts heating and up to what temperature.
Someone who will answer these questions for me would be great.
I own G3 from moto and loved it and looking for an upgrade.

It's been a day since I have the device. Played some games and it's pretty much okay! I came from Moto X Play, and I'm gonna say it's way better than that. MXP heated like hell, reached 45-47 at times during some sessions of calls. And in gaming it went 51.
I played Real Racing 3 for an hour and so, and it was pretty okay to me. Warm, yes. Hot, no! The device definitely felt warm, but it was kinda okay to me! I don't game on my phone usually. But yes gaming drained my battery way way faster than I expected it.
If you are looking for an upgrade, I'd say go for it. It is way better than G3 and you will love it.

Good to read, as I plan to upgrade my G2 with the G4(plus). Heat is an issue with my G2, especialy when in the car, navigating and on the charger. Looks like it fried my gps. (The main reason to upgrade)

iamavneetsingh said:
It's been a day since I have the device. Played some games and it's pretty much okay! I came from Moto X Play, and I'm gonna say it's way better than that. MXP heated like hell, reached 45-47 at times during some sessions of calls. And in gaming it went 51.
I played Real Racing 3 for an hour and so, and it was pretty okay to me. Warm, yes. Hot, no! The device definitely felt warm, but it was kinda okay to me! I don't game on my phone usually. But yes gaming drained my battery way way faster than I expected it.
If you are looking for an upgrade, I'd say go for it. It is way better than G3 and you will love it.
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Brother, can u please give detailed info on the battery department? Battery is my main concern and that's why returned moto g turbo.
I need at least 5 to 6 hours of SoT with 3g switched on throughout the day. I'll be using FB, twitter, offline video playback, YouTube, extensive browsing whole day and an hour of gaming as well.
Will it last a day?

shoaib033 said:
Brother, can u please give detailed info on the battery department? Battery is my main concern and that's why returned moto g turbo.
I need at least 5 to 6 hours of SoT with 3g switched on throughout the day. I'll be using FB, twitter, offline video playback, YouTube, extensive browsing whole day and an hour of gaming as well.
Will it last a day?
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You need a 5-6hr SOT after having Facebook on phone? You must be kidding! 5-6hr sot is nearly impossible for a moto g. I think 4-5hrs is more adequate to predict.
Though its early for me to say about battery! I'm gonna post some screenshots by Monday of my usage cycles.

iamavneetsingh said:
You need a 5-6hr SOT after having Facebook on phone? You must be kidding! 5-6hr sot is nearly impossible for a moto g. I think 4-5hrs is more adequate to predict.
Though its early for me to say about battery! I'm gonna post some screenshots by Monday of my usage cycles.
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Alright, I'll wait till Monday. But what's wrong with FB app? I use it on my moto e and haven't had any problem with it. With the same usage I mentioned earlier, moto e seems to do excellent job. 5 1/2 to 6 hours of SOT is norm.

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Alright, I'll wait till Monday. But what's wrong with FB app? I use it on my moto e and haven't had any problem with it. With the same usage I mentioned earlier, moto e seems to do excellent job. 5 1/2 to 6 hours of SOT is norm.
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For once try uninstalling the Facebook Family Apps (Fb, Messenger, Groups, or Pages) and then note the changes. Facebook apps tend to have wakelocks and alarms that are way too frequent.
com.facebook.common.executors.WakingExecutorServic e.ACTION.ALARM.com.facebook.katana
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this alarm for example happens every 1600s maybe.
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T_I said:
Good to read, as I plan to upgrade my G2 with the G4(plus). Heat is an issue with my G2, especialy when in the car, navigating and on the charger. Looks like it fried my gps. (The main reason to upgrade)
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Due to G4P not having a magnetic sensor, you gonna have this issue on G4P. It is gonna use mobile data to know your orientation. I'm not gonna judge though. I don't know yet. Still have to test it. :good:

iamavneetsingh said:
Due to G4P not having a magnetic sensor, you gonna have this issue on G4P. It is gonna use mobile data to know your orientation. I'm not gonna judge though. I don't know yet. Still have to test it. :good:
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Ehm... My gps got fried (literally) by heat buildup while navigating in the car and charging at the same time. Now when it's in the car and charging, the hps drops away from time to time. As this thread was started by the OP asking about heating issues, I got curious of the G4 has the same issue as I experienced with the G2. I don't see the link with the magnetic sensor, unless that sensor is producing heat..

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Ehm... My gps got fried (literally) by heat buildup while navigating in the car and charging at the same time. Now when it's in the car and charging, the hps drops away from time to time. As this thread was started by the OP asking about heating issues, I got curious of the G4 has the same issue as I experienced with the G2. I don't see the link with the magnetic sensor, unless that sensor is producing heat..
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The absence of the sensor will trigger the modem (using data/wifi) which will eventually cause the device to heat up!

iamavneetsingh said:
The absence of the sensor will trigger the modem (using data/wifi) which will eventually cause the device to heat up!
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Even with data and wifi already on? I'll try with the device only setting instead of high accuracy. Could save the G4+ from getting fried.

Moto G4 Plus getting heated while charging to 48-50 Degree. Room temp is about 25-27 degree.
No 3rd party app is installed till now.
Seems unusual, should i go for replacement ??

Look budy if you use mobile while charging is not right........
Use mobile after the charge it will not heat...
It will heat only when
1. Hotsopt is on
2. Gaming....
Use of battery and performance a lot......
Every mobile have heating essu.... So don't worry buy phone I love it...

Tyson568 said:
Look budy if you use mobile while charging is not right........
Use mobile after the charge it will not heat...
It will heat only when
1. Hotsopt is on
2. Gaming....
Use of battery and performance a lot......
Every mobile have heating essu.... So don't worry buy phone I love it...
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How's the battery life? Need at least 5.50 to 6 hours of SoT with regular 3g usage throughout the day.

it will be for 3-5 hr battery life... On u
How u use it

Phone heats up only during charging.

iamavneetsingh said:
It's been a day since I have the device. Played some games and it's pretty much okay! I came from Moto X Play, and I'm gonna say it's way better than that. MXP heated like hell, reached 45-47 at times during some sessions of calls. And in gaming it went 51.
I played Real Racing 3 for an hour and so, and it was pretty okay to me. Warm, yes. Hot, no! The device definitely felt warm, but it was kinda okay to me! I don't game on my phone usually. But yes gaming drained my battery way way faster than I expected it.
If you are looking for an upgrade, I'd say go for it. It is way better than G3 and you will love it.
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Hi Avneet,
I am also looking to buy G4plus 32gb ver. for my cousin, but yesterday flipkrt droped price of xplay, so thinking should i consider that option or still go for G4plus. Camera and battery is plus for MXP.
Any thoughts /suggestion ..?

discoversumit said:
Hi Avneet,
I am also looking to buy G4plus 32gb ver. for my cousin, but yesterday flipkrt droped price of xplay, so thinking should i consider that option or still go for G4plus. Camera and battery is plus for MXP.
Any thoughts /suggestion ..?
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Yea! You could go for it. If you wish! Camera is a big plus. Battery too. But only if you stay on the stock rom! I was using CM13. And i went from 6-7hr sot to 4-5 hr sot with excessive heating on long browser sessions.
Laser focus, fingerprint sensor, gyroscope and 3GB of ram made me buy MG4P. All of these are missing on the MXP.

iamavneetsingh said:
Yea! You could go for it. If you wish! Camera is a big plus. Battery too. But only if you stay on the stock rom! I was using CM13. And i went from 6-7hr sot to 4-5 hr sot with excessive heating on long browser sessions.
Laser focus, fingerprint sensor, gyroscope and 3GB of ram made me buy MG4P. All of these are missing on the MXP.
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yes, thats plus for G4P and processer and ram are plus here as well.
NFC part in MXP is plus too i think so, usage would be moderate as far i think, gaming and normal usage...

Just want to mention that there are already a few threads on lenovo forum about heating issues
expect them to grow in number when the phone is released in the states (I think india and brazil useres are realtively less post on english forums)
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G-13MP-16MP-Plus/bd-p/MotoG4thGen

every device heats if you put up it in extensive use without heat dissipation.
well about g4 plus all i can say is that it is a cool device in every terms except battery should be 3300 Mah but i am still getting about 8 hr of sot in 1 recharge cycle.(if you play games then it will last about 4 hrs of sot) & turbo charger supplied with it is also very good, it charges first 80 % in 60 (phone temp would be around 43 -44 degree while turbo charging then it drops to below 40 degree or depending on ambient temperature )minutes then remaining 20 % is charged with normal way in 40 min or so.
here are some game play screenshots for your convenience to check temperature:-
(all games were in highest settings)
1. game= rayark implosion
ambient temp = 36 degree
maximum phone temperature during game play = 39 degree
game 2 :- real racing 3
max temp :- 38
game 3:- marvels champion
max temp:- 38 degree
i didn't find any over heating
but if you play intensive games where ambient temp is 45 degree it is bound to get hot.
tip:- while playing game or charging via turbo charger remove protective back case(if you have one.)
turbo charging takes exactly 100 min to full charge
0 to 80% in 60 min my phone temp was 42-44 degree.
80 to 100 % in last 40 min temp drops below 38 degree automatically.
hope this helps

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[DISCUSS] Battery Life, MOST Important thing for PLAY phone

Hi All,
Please post about the battery life after using this phone!!
I want to know for how many hours I can play non-stop games
1500mh xperia play´s battery?
I think the battery life is one of the few flaws in this design. I think the battery life wont even be much more then a normal psp. So probably 3-4 hours of non-stop gaming will kill it. That would be a reason for me not to buy this devise.
It's quoted at 5 and a half hours of gaming time.
I had two units on demo 9-5 on Sunday, they were on 9 and 11% be the end, they didn't get any proper recharging, just being topped up a minute or two if there was a gap in people coming to play on them, otherwise they were in use nearly all the time.
So it seems pretty good.
I get around 5 hours of gaming, good enough for me!
my r800x i rooted it and took off all the verizon bloatware and random crap that was running im at 210 free of 300 whatever on the rom side and ive only used 100 mb of the internal memory
only thing i have is snes and n64 emulators and FPse the other day i did about 3 hrs of gaming it was at 100 percent when i started and after 3 hours of gaming i had 75 percent i was playing ff7 and goldeneye
i had wifi off bt off sync off and medium screen brightness only thing i turn on is the sync but i dont need it all the time
i ordered some batterys off of ebay lol i have a bad habit of getting drunk and getting on ebay lol
they should be here today see what happens it suppose to be 2 oem spec suppose to be oem spec but i shouldve known better and the wall plug you just sit the battery in there
1h play, ~20% battery cost with the lights on the powerful setting.
So I confirm, it's around 5 hours of uninterrupted gameplay.
5 hours of gaming might not seem like a lot on paper, but trust me, it's more than enough.
I think people need to remember that this is a phone first, gaming handheld second. For the majority of people, 90% of the day is not going to be spent gaming for continuous hours. I know for me, personally, I play Ocarina of Time on my breaks at work. A typical day for me has me going to work at about 9:10AM, phone's at near 100%. I'll use some WiFi here and there, sparingly throughout the day, and get about 45 mins to an hour of solid gaming in. At 6PM when I'm heading home, phone's anywhere from 70-80%, maybe less if I've been using data slightly more that day. Keep in mind, this is with sending probably 50ish texts throughout the day.
So I get home, I'll usually play for another hour or so more depending on what I'm doing. All in all, when I'm getting ready to go to sleep, my phone's usually at around 65%.
That is absolutely amazing battery life. Any time that I plan on gaming for more than 3 hours straight I make sure I've got an outlet nearby just in case - I carry my charger on my at all times (in a backpack/car/etc) like any reasonable person probably does.
TL;DR - best battery life I've ever seen on a phone that does what the Play does.
5 hours of gaming is what I get, and trust me I've never killed the battery during a normal day. The only time I actually kill it is when sitting at home, and at those times I'm near the charger anyway.
This phone has by far the best battery life of any smartphone I've used.
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kershner25 said:
I think people need to remember that this is a phone first, gaming handheld second. For the majority of people, 90% of the day is not going to be spent gaming for continuous hours. I know for me, personally, I play Ocarina of Time on my breaks at work. A typical day for me has me going to work at about 9:10AM, phone's at near 100%. I'll use some WiFi here and there, sparingly throughout the day, and get about 45 mins to an hour of solid gaming in. At 6PM when I'm heading home, phone's anywhere from 70-80%, maybe less if I've been using data slightly more that day. Keep in mind, this is with sending probably 50ish texts throughout the day.
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I agree that the Play's battery life is quite good, but I really have to say that it's not good enough when coupled with 3G usage. I have 3G on all the time, and usually if my day starts at 10am, (with occasional gaming) the Play will die at about 9pm with moderate gaming. That's really quite good, but I usually am not home at 9pm, so it sucks to have the battery go flat just when you are about to start boarding your bus back home.
I wish it could've been a little longer.
Here are a few things about the plays battery life.....
5.5 hours of gaming is really intense and I realistically wouldn't expect many people to actually play games for the whole 5 hours unless they were at home which in that case they will have their charger for the device.
Regarding the phone using 3G, the device will only chew up power if its constantly looking for 3G signal. If the device has a strong constant signal of 3G, it wont eat the battery as much at all.
Regarding rooting the phone to increase its battery life, ive heard and seen that it does actually improve the phones battery life but only slightly. I dont have mine rooted and thats alright by me
Lastly, my experiences with the xperia play's battery have been fantastic. Im getting 2-3 days usage with calls, texts and short gaming sessions.
vemoxy said:
I agree that the Play's battery life is quite good, but I really have to say that it's not good enough when coupled with 3G usage. I have 3G on all the time, and usually if my day starts at 10am, (with occasional gaming) the Play will die at about 9pm with moderate gaming. That's really quite good, but I usually am not home at 9pm, so it sucks to have the battery go flat just when you are about to start boarding your bus back home.
I wish it could've been a little longer.
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Why don't you buy a bigger battery? It'll give you that little push you're asking for.
Logseman said:
Why don't you buy a bigger battery? It'll give you that little push you're asking for.
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It will also give you that bigger lump in your pocket you have yearned for all these years
KoolMoeDee KMD said:
It will also give you that bigger lump in your pocket you have yearned for all these years
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That, and I'm not sure whether the case I'm using (TPU) supports the extended battery's size.
I'm not even sure whether there are white covers for extended battery covers.. And I live in Asia so shipping from the US is going to painful.
KoolMoeDee KMD said:
It will also give you that bigger lump in your pocket you have yearned for all these years
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Mobile phones in 2000 were larger and heavier than 300g. Pockets have not changed at all
One didn't buy this phone for its sleekness and fitting his thin jeans, did he?
Vemoxy, you can order batteries and covers from aliexpress.com, they ship from Asia so the shipping fees should be lower. For example: http://www.aliexpress.com/product-f...i-X-pureness-Xperia-Play-Z1i-wholesalers.html
I notice that PSpocket doesn't drain alot of battery compared to emulators on MARKET.
Playing ff7 for an hour and about 13% lost
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Cat_On_Droid said:
I notice that PSpocket doesn't drain alot of battery compared to emulators on MARKET.
Playing ff7 for an hour and about 13% lost
Sent from my R800i using XDA App
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That's because the playstation pocket emulator was made by a team of Sony professionals, and not some dude on the internet.
Sent from my R800
I'd daresay it has a lot more to do with the fact that they have all the data about both the emulated console and the Xperia play. Random dudes in the internet do nit have those kinds of advantages...but still, they do a better job.
Try running Everybody's Golf both from FPSE and from the Market version and you'll find that FPSE renders a flawless emulation which the paid version does not. I know I got pissed off.

Post Your Battery Stats So Far...

With the couple of reviewers stating the battery isn't that great. Let's see if it they're right..my "screen on time" was a little over 5 hours*...
This is mine after a full 100% with auto brightness with moderate to heavy use..
Edit. remember to include "screen on time screenshots" unlike my OP.
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After running down the out of the box battery to 20%, gave it a full charge. Since then, sitting at 6.5 hours off battery, 2 hours 1m 46s of screen on, mostly surfing the web, facebook, a handful of texts, using the Moto Display, Wi-Fi on half that time, off the other half, and about 10 pictures, 79% left.
daboyal006 said:
This is mine after a full 100% with auto brightness with moderate to heavy use..
Add On: I have do something about this moto voice lol
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Screen on time is the most important battery stat. Any chance you can edit your OP to include a screenshot of it starting from fully charged?
Yeah please post screen on times when reporting back.
I picked mine up yesterday, got it all setup, and charged over night. I'll be able to report back later this afternoon once it's had some significant uptime. I also have my LG G3 and Moto X 2013 next to me, and I'm trying to keep the usage uniform across all 3 to compare.
INCREMENTAL said:
Yeah please post screen on times when reporting back.
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ap3604 said:
Screen on time is the most important battery stat. Any chance you can edit your OP to include a screenshot of it starting from fully charged?
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Yeah I just remembered about that but I did check it out before I charged it. It was about 5 hours before it finally died out ...I'll do it again today
Sent from my DROID TURBO 64 GB
Got mine and it was at about 44% out of the box. Ram it down until it shut down and have been having baby use with it since (except for about 7 hours sleeping). And yeah, that is totally a rogue app. Never had problems with it before though. :/
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This is comparing a Verizon G3 and Turbo, as well as a T-Mobile Moto X 2013. I've always had issues with the wireless keeping the phones awake, so the battery life isn't what most of you would probably see, but it's still a fair comparison.
DROID Turbo:
LG G3:
Moto X 2013:
So basically it's doing better than the G3 and way better than Moto X 2013. I agree with you though I think the poor Wifi reception is causing the phone to be awake more often or spend more battery maintaining signal. I'm at about 5 hours with 1 hr SOT and 80% battery. Seems reasonable but I thought it'd be better.
mobilehavoc said:
So basically it's doing better than the G3 and way better than Moto X 2013. I agree with you though I think the poor Wifi reception is causing the phone to be awake more often or spend more battery maintaining signal. I'm at about 5 hours with 1 hr SOT and 80% battery. Seems reasonable but I thought it'd be better.
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That's my conclusion as well, I will run these through the night and I'll have a better comparison, then this weekend will be real world use.
It has something to do with our wireless infrastructure at work that causes devices to stay away 90% of the time, at the end of the work day I'll have 6-7 hours of it being away with very little SOT.
I'm surprised that it's only a slight improvement over the G3 though, I was expecting more.
Still trying to get through my first few cycles. So far this morning my phone is at 90% with only 25 minutes of screen on time. I did run google play music on the drive over here. But still, those are rather terrible battery stats, hoping to get through the first few cycles and get better battery life.
Juliann826 said:
Still trying to get through my first few cycles. So far this morning my phone is at 90% with only 25 minutes of screen on time. I did run google play music on the drive over here. But still, those are rather terrible battery stats, hoping to get through the first few cycles and get better battery life.
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You gotta give it more than the first 10% of one cycle to get an accurate representation. Let us know after the battery is down more.
Still gonna let it get lower before charging again. This is with a full charge. I am coming from the G3 and batt life seems way better on this, but can't tell since not even 1 charge cycle
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(...)but can't tell since not even 1 charge cycle
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Exactly, it takes few charging cycles for the battery and the phone to calibrate and maximize the battery life.
Alright here's mine.
Bought yesterday, charged to 100% overnight, used all day at work.
Thus far appears much better than my previous phone, an LG G2, but battery life has never been a problem for me.
Did well in phone arena tests though:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Step...the-new-king-of-flagship-battery-life_id62350
droidkevlar said:
Still gonna let it get lower before charging again. This is with a full charge. I am coming from the G3 and batt life seems way better on this, but can't tell since not even 1 charge cycle
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So we have 1 legit post from 100% to 0%. 4 hours screen time.
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So we have 1 legit post from 100% to 0%. 4 hours screen time.
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Here is my final before going back on charger
PS. This is with 1hour streaming music and 4 hours streaming Plex
Seems like battery life it pretty dam good. Don't see why other people's reviews about battery are so crappy.
droidkevlar said:
Here is my final before going back on charger
PS. This is with 1hour streaming music and 4 hours streaming Plex
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I think this is not good. Four hour screen time is awful.
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I think this is not good. Four hour screen time is awful.
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SOT isnt the only thing that shows how a battery is good or not. Like I said, I streamed a lot...with my G3, it would have crapped out long before going a full day, and the battery is only about 20% bigger. I got more than that out of the Turbo. Also note, this was the full first cycle. If you dont know already, the battery will get better after a full cycles. So Im loving it. I only have one true gripe and that is the low call volume, but I know that can be fixed through an update, which I hope they do soon.

Screen on time

It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Huawei Mate 20 X before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
The first days when playing around with the phone quite a lot my average is about 8-9 hours.
https://youtu.be/pKHqOIwaAu0
Battery King
Mine is 13hrs plus with pubg
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Mine is 13hrs plus with pubg
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Shame pubg is just medium graphics and slow framerate. I look forward to them optimising it. Don't wanna risk a ban using gfx tools.
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Shame pubg is just medium graphics and slow framerate. I look forward to them optimising it. Don't wanna risk a ban using gfx tools.
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This mate x has liquid cooling when on performance mode so its just great to see 13 hours screen on time
TAJ_Rocks said:
This mate x has liquid cooling when on performance mode so its just great to see 13 hours screen on time
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It runs red hot when I play it. Hopefully when optimised it cools down.
Battery 49% left... the screen has been on for 7+ hours.
Love this phone!
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It runs red hot when I play it. Hopefully when optimised it cools down.
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Just an update on this.
Pubg released an update today and now the game flies with much higher graphics settings selectable. And it seems to run cooler.
So happy with this phone, it might be the best phone I've had.
cloud1 said:
Just an update on this.
Pubg released an update today and now the game flies with much higher graphics settings selectable. And it seems to run cooler.
So happy with this phone, it might be the best phone I've had.
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How's the screen look? And speed of the device? Hard to hold?
Exteremly perplexed. Out of the box this things battery was amazing on day 1.. 5 hours sot from 60pc to 20+. On day 4, just watching YouTube and scrolling on Instagram for 40 minutes the battery dropped 10pc! Disappointing for a 7nm chip and 5000mah. Ive been monitoring battery consumption and apps, which I haven't installed much. Projected to have 55 hours left on battery, 70 hours on saving and 230 hours on ultra. Do you guys think it's still calibrating?
Yeah, i think it's still calibrating... Remember to never charge your phone to 100% and never plug the charger when it like 1%... Always charge from 20% to 80% ... This will you will have a great battery life...
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Can we get more posts with app usage? Showing SOT without what apps you use doesn't mean much
This phone is a beast.
With same configuration my Mate 9's best was 6+ hours SOT, Mate 10 pro was just about 7 hours.
Power saving mode off.
Auto brightness on except while on total darkness.
Double SIM cards from different providers active the whole time.
Walking and driving half of the day.
No WiFi at all except when I had to transfer a few GB of data to another phone via WiFi direct.
YouTube vanced active most of the time when screen was on plus a few hours while screen was off too. You can see I downloaded 1.4GB of data yesterday and that was mostly 240p video and last two hours 144p video.
I forgot to say I had Bluetooth on for more than 10 hours, and that's exactly how long time I was playing videos on YouTube vanced. Because I listen through the wireless earbuds.
Is anyone having shorter SOT post the emui9.1 update?
at least it's worse with me than with 9.0
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at least it's worse with me than with 9.0
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Any idea why or solutions to this? Read somewhere that removing cache might solve this but no results thus far

Heavy use endurance

Playing Candy Crush for 22 hours straight can take its toll on your battery (and your marriage). Rate this thread to express how the Moto G7 Power's battery performs under heavy use. A higher rating indicates that it lasts a long time even when playing games, streaming video and audio, and doing other CPU-intensive activities.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I am sorry in advance not trying to insult or anything when it comes to battery life of any smartphones in general
But under heavy usage. How long can this phone last?
I'll be travelling soon so i need the longest battery possible
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If anyone is kind enough to conduct one test on this device
There is an app called "photorealism benchmark 2018" (very heavy GPU infinite test)
If someone can download this free and let the phone run from 100% > 0% with around 30% brightness on WIFI and see
I doubt it can last more than 5 hours of screen on time running this app
Hey. I think I will soon upload my experience with light and heavy day to day usage. But if you like to know a bit more about the battery life, maybe this could already help you:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g7-power/review/screen-time-t3898163/page2
Only Playing 3D games/Running 3d Graphic counts
Mondfox said:
Hey. I think I will soon upload my experience with light and heavy day to day usage. But if you like to know a bit more about the battery life, maybe this could already help you:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g7-power/review/screen-time-t3898163/page2
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Thanks so much for replying.
I really love to see someone with 5000 mAh battery would do continuous hours test of running any 3D graphic app
like
1: Running 3D benchmark app from 100% > 0% with 40% of brightness and everything on
2: Playing / grinding levels in RPG/MMORPG games
3: Playing games continuously 100% > 0% with 40% brightness and everything on
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FOR ME FAKE SOT is watching YOUTUBE/SURFING WEBSITE/PLAYING LOCAL VIDEOS (OFFLINE MODE)
thienthancongtu said:
Thanks so much for replying.
I really love to see someone with 5000 mAh battery would do continuous hours test of running any 3D graphic app
like
1: Running 3D benchmark app from 100% > 0% with 40% of brightness and everything on
2: Playing / grinding levels in RPG/MMORPG games
3: Playing games continuously 100% > 0% with 40% brightness and everything on
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FOR ME FAKE SOT is watching YOUTUBE/SURFING WEBSITE/PLAYING LOCAL VIDEOS (OFFLINE MODE)
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Well I don't know if I will do some all day long 3d Benchmarks. And I don't think it would suit my needs in daily usage to be honest. I can only give info about the stuff I do with my phone day in and day out. But I will try to get some benchmarking out of your suggestions. But don't expect all too much ? I will do some heavy usage in terms of social apps, media apps, software usage, streaming and gps/ wifi/ data.
Only Playing 3D games/Running 3d Graphic counts
Mondfox said:
Well I don't know if I will do some all day long 3d Benchmarks. And I don't think it would suit my needs in daily usage to be honest. I can only give info about the stuff I do with my phone day in and day out. But I will try to get some benchmarking out of your suggestions. But don't expect all too much I will do some heavy usage in terms of social apps, media apps, software usage, streaming and gps/ wifi/ data.
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Thanks for taking your time and report in advance.
You do not have to run benchmarks just leave screen on with some 3D application on (motion 3D app that runs till battery dies)
Heavy usage in terms of social apps wifi can last you like 8-10hrs easily with 5000 mAh
(but everything else is on AS WELL AS 3D app) >> 5-6 hrs max of REAL SOT
thienthancongtu said:
Thanks for taking your time and report in advance.
You do not have to run benchmarks just leave screen on with some 3D application on (motion 3D app that runs till battery dies)
Heavy usage in terms of social apps wifi can last you like 8-10hrs easily with 5000 mAh
(but everything else is on AS WELL AS 3D app) >> 5-6 hrs max of REAL SOT
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Ok. I think I can do that. In terms of SOT i think the 720p display is also an advantage in terms of battery life. I will try to test with video and 3d application. Do you maybe have something in mind to use?
Mondfox said:
Ok. I think I can do that. In terms of SOT i think the 720p display is also an advantage in terms of battery life. I will try to test with video and 3d application. Do you maybe have something in mind to use?
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There are 2 major benchmark tests for free on GOOGLE PLAY
1: Photorealism 2018
2: A bit less power consumption Seascape
(im pretty sure photorealism 2018) will eat this 5000 mAh in about 5-6 hours from 100% > 0% with everything else is on (Sync,40% brightness, Wifi, LTE etc...)
Some people do battery drain with wifi only etc.. i think thats bit off
I prefer to test battery with all options TURNED ON (50% brightness, autosync, lte, cellular, gps)
Then i do battery drain with super heavy 3D tasks
(In this case, i call it under REAL HEAVY ENDURANCE)
1: Photorealism 2018
2: A bit less power consumption Seascape
Sorry i didn't reply that long. I had some health issues. But i'll take those as indicator.
How good is heavy multitasking on this? Several apps open, a lot of browsing on Chrome, frequent WhatsApp/Viber and social media scrolling and camera snaps every now and then?
Moto = dog**** USB ports?
The USB port in my last Moto G(6) went out in about 4 months. I assumed it was a fluke, but 3 months in on the g7, its already 96% gone. VERY specific and random angles will charge but nothing else. Tried different cords, cleaning port, etc (both on this and the g6), doesnt matter. My only conclusion is that Moto uses cheap garbage on one of the most essential parts of the phone. Can anyone confirm this? Im sure I use my USB more than than the common person (Android development) but **** is 3 months a JOKE
Heavy usage experience - IMHO
I have used the Redmi Note 4S, Mi Max 2, Redmi Note 8T and Motorola G7 Power. My typical day is dealing with lots of email, web browsing, whatsapp, wechat some facebook and all the banking software. Mi Max 2 has been my choice of phone for a long time even though it barely carry me through the day. I start normally at 6am and finishes around 9pm. Since using Motorola G7 Power, 95% of the time it will still have power left after 9pm.... normally 20% battery or more. I just wish it has a nicer camera but it is fine with ample lighting. Even the Mi Max 2 will be exhausted 90% of the time before 9pm. As for the Redmi Note 8T, it barely last past 6pm and the even less with Note 4S. If you are a no nonsense worker that is not a gamer, this phone is like a workhorse. Let me know if you have any other questions.
GSM arena has a battery test comparison. Moto G7 Power, is close to the top. I'm very impressed with the battery life. It's the main reason I bought the phone.
https://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3
For general uses like web browsing, banking, simple gaming, etc.,. This phone is PERFECT!
Sent from my moto g(7) power using Tapatalk
Don't know how it stacks up to the competition but when picking this phone from the Visible lineup it stood out on the factor of battery life alone.
I give it 5 stars because it has delivered as advertised. Approximately 3 days of battery life... And when I put it on its out of box charger the thing jumps at least 20 percent in an our or less time.
It's totally true... I don't have to feel afraid this thing is going to die on me. I just leave my charger in my room and plug it in (about a fifth of the time I used to think to charge my old phone). Normally I get a bit more conscious about it around 30 percent.
It's 1 am here... And I left my house at 5 pm yesterday. It was at 52 percent and now it's at 38. I've been streaming music, using Google maps... Making the occasional call. And browsing the web on it for the last hour.
I honestly think this phone would remain ready to ring for about a week if left entirely alone.
It's absurd and a great advantage in the notion of the need for a phone that isn't a pain in the @$$.
G7 Power - Battery
Bought mine 2 days ago so can not elaborate on USB-C robustness and overall reliability.
Below my experience so far:
Very bright screen, easy work on it outdoors even in sunny days (wish I could attach pics), if remember well, top brightness is ~630 candelas. IMHO one of the brightest LCD screens esp for a phone that sells for 160$ +Tax.
When got mine, I charged it to 100% before powering up.
After that decided to fully discharge it to give charge controller some data.
Biggest problem was discharging it, took forever:
I was playing YT videos at full brightness in full screen and in windowed mode to make sure it is not going into standby while also texting, updating system and apps and having hotspot running on it (Mobile signal strenght was at ab 50-70%)
It took ab 9hrs (test was going on for ab 10+ but few times forgot to return on time to click on YT button to continue video playback so it went into sleep).
Phone shut down after reaching 1% of battery capacity
Recharging was done on USB-C 60W charger from my Chromebook instead of stock 15W,
phone entered turbo charge state without any issues or overheating:
After 15 min of charging - batt charge level 22%
after 2 hrs of charging - batt charge level 95%
Last 5% took about 30 min as I am sure charger was in a slow charge for safety.
I was performing full charge-discharge curve to train the battery controller so in real life I guess phone will go into charging at ab: 10-15% and be off the charger at 90% as the extra few percent makes no difference while unnecessarily extend charging time and stress on the lithium cell.
So I estimate total charging time in daily use scenario will be ab 90min every 2-3 days (in my case, no gaming no binge YT watching etc).
IMHO a very good workhorse for a heavy duty daily use (but not for gaming or advanced photography, video shooting) at very low price!
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thienthancongtu said:
Thanks so much for replying.
I really love to see someone with 5000 mAh battery would do continuous hours test of running any 3D graphic app
like
1: Running 3D benchmark app from 100% > 0% with 40% of brightness and everything on
2: Playing / grinding levels in RPG/MMORPG games
3: Playing games continuously 100% > 0% with 40% brightness and everything on
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FOR ME FAKE SOT is watching YOUTUBE/SURFING WEBSITE/PLAYING LOCAL VIDEOS (OFFLINE MODE)
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For me you are either a troll trying to make people put thermal damage on their phones or a real gaming addict that needs a high end gaming rig not a smartphone - mobile devices of any kind are not for hardcore 100% duty cycle gaming, video editing etc.
BTW G7 Power sell for 160$, pocket change, buy one and run on it any crazy and destructive tests you dream about.

Screen on time

It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Samsung Galaxy M51 before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Getting 17hrs of screen on time minimum on full charge for youtube 3hrs , clash of clans 2hrs and 45-50 mins of calls per day....last 3 days with my usage
Plus Whatsapp of 1 hrs approx per day
gandeepan said:
Getting 17hrs of screen on time minimum on full charge for youtube 3hrs , clash of clans 2hrs and 45-50 mins of calls per day....last 3 days with my usage
Plus Whatsapp of 1 hrs approx per day
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SS or it didn't happen
I've had this phone 2 days and so far I've had 6 hours 31 minutes of screen time and I have 58 percent battery left. This is mostly YouTube, Web browsing, an hour of downloading apps from play store and a bit of emulation (ppsspp) am extremely impressed with the battery life on this phone.
Battery lasts more than 2 days at Medium Power Saving mode with moderate apps usage(no gaming but with youtube, magic fluid live wallpaper, whatsapp, browsing) and SOT approx 13+ hours in these two days. At the end of second day battery remains at 30-35%.
Has anybody here compared to the Moto G8 Power? Is the battery life even better?
GoogleoverK said:
Has anybody here compared to the Moto G8 Power? Is the battery life even better?
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Exactly how do you think a cheap SD 665 11nm chip with a 5,000mAh battery will do against a higher tier SD 730g 8nm chip with a 7,000mAh battery?
Hmmmmm ?
Devilmonkey27 said:
Exactly how do you think a cheap SD 665 11nm chip with a 5,000mAh battery will do against a higher tier SD 730g 8nm chip with a 7,000mAh battery?
Hmmmmm ?
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Could have answered like a normal person.
GoogleoverK said:
Could have answered like a normal person.
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I did... Exactly how do you think they will compare?
@Devilmonkey27 No need for snark...
It was a genuine question, try to provide a genuine answer. Please reply properly or don't reply at all.
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@Devilmonkey27 No need for snark...
It was a genuine question, try to provide a genuine answer. Please reply properly or don't reply at all.
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So exactly how do you think a phone with half the specs will do?
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So exactly how do you think a phone with half the specs will do?
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You're missing the point. My post has nothing to do with that...
I'm simply asking, that if you have anything to add to a thread, please do so in a constructive manner without snark or attitude. It would have been very easy for you to convey your message without being rude or condescending.
If you've got more to discuss on this particular matter, please contact me through a private message (to keep the thread on topic).
Devilmonkey27 said:
Exactly how do you think a cheap SD 665 11nm chip with a 5,000mAh battery will do against a higher tier SD 730g 8nm chip with a 7,000mAh battery?
Hmmmmm ?
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To come back on it, I have it since today and so far it's looking like the G8 Power has better or equal batterylife, standby drain is somehow bad on the M51, I checked all apps. Still I'll let the software settle and get through more cycles and check Gsam Battery Monitor in a couple of days again.
I honestly blame Samsung's other apps that aren't used and aren't able to be disabled or uninstalled.
Hi guys. I wanted to let you know my findings and provide some test results of galaxy m51 battery life. Firstly, I will outline what was my priority for that test. I wanted to check how long the phone can last mainly on google maps navigation with additional apps in the background. Also this test is a bit static so to speak but had no chance travelling for so many hours. That said I believe SOT was tested correctly for my planned usage. I guess in a real case scenario, I would need to do some more browsing and perhaps occasional screen switch offs during a break like filling up the fuel or stop to rest on a bicycle.
How I performed my test.
1. I did some initial installations, downloaded my apps and logged in to social apps such as FB, Spotify so they can work in the background, send notifications etc.
2. Once I completed the setup, I charged the very new phone to 100%. AccuBatter reported capacity was 6800mAh designed capacity not 7000mAh and estimated capacity 6700mAh.
3. CPU-Z reported Snapdragon 730 so I regret it is not 730G and honestly I do not know how to check with online stores as the packaging does not help with this. Also, I plan to test POCO F2 PRO 8gb ram/256gb version the same way and see how it goes since I get better hardware, but I like SD card slot on galaxy m51. Very useful when resetting the phone.
4. Set google maps navigation, lunched another app which uses GPS and LTE for maps showing speed cameras, road works or dangers which I use alongside with google maps. I also start shuffle play on Spotify to imitate streaming the music in my car or on the bike.
5. WiFi, LTE, GPS, Bluetooth, sync was enabled, blue light filter enabled.
6. Between 15-20 apps were in the background.
7. I unplugged the device from the mains.
8. Initial 15% discharge was with a WiFi connection with my router. Then switched of my router for overnight, left wifi enabled on Samsung but it had to continue downloading data over LTE such as Spotify music streaming. I also changed google map setting to day light only to avoid night backlight.
9. I went to bed? and in the morning there was still a lot of juice.
10. Around 20% discharge I took about 100 pictures most of them in burst mode to simulate a trip where you simply stop and take some snaps.
11. I stopped the test at 1% discharge and noticed no heating problem. The phone was cool during the test.
The overall SOT measured until 1% discharge was a staggering 17h 50m? Below you will find AccuBattery screenshots. At remaining 15% I had still over 2 h 42 m of use left.
This phone reminded me of good, old days of my Samsung galaxy s3 with a Zerolemon 7000mAh?
Now with my galaxy s7 deteriorating battery (current capacity just over 2300mAh) this is a great thing. For Galaxy s7 I also own a KiwiBird powerbank case of 5400mAh right from the beginning wich did its job when away from the mains, travelling etc.
I guess for a more accurate SOT, I would need to add some phone calls and browsing but even with I deduct 2h, it is still nearly 16 h of use. Like for me excellent. I also do not plan gaming.
On the downside of this phone it seems like my galaxy s7 takes a bit better picture, but it just might be my perception of selfies taken. Back camera is also just ok on a cloudy day. Ok but that is an offtopic.
I got my M51 yesterday and I am not fully sure yet about battery lifetime. I have charged it to 100% and about 8 hours and 2.5 hours secreen time later I am at about 90%.
Coming from my Moto Z Play I am not sure yet if I stay with the galaxy. The Mot Z Play with Incipio OffGrid Wireless Power Pack mod is about the same size and weight. Though provides less capacity (3300mAh phone + 2200mAh power mod) but battery lifetime still was bout 3-4 days usually.
The M51 is also getting considerably warmer during use.
I noticed also the Samsung battery saver with medium settings can reduce the CPU clock to max out at 70% which is handy. Not sure if there is any undervolting, underclocking tools as I think I would be perfectly fine with less performance - actually I was able to reach insane battery life on my old Galaxy P1000 with TricksterMod and custom undervolting back in the days.
I still believe better lifetime with the M51 would be possible bz reducing CPU clock and also with better screen brightness control. I noticed many times already that the M51 screen was too bright for me and having to reduce the slider to "minimum" position or very close to it. Also I noticed that the screen brightness slider is not linear at all. So on the last notch on the left side the screen really starts to dim properly while to the right there isn't much change. Also I like still to use automatic screen brightness adjustments but found the automatic adjustment often moves the brightness too high.
Also a possibility to limit the used screen area (e.g. display black bar on bottom/top) would save energy on the AMOLED screen while still providing more than enough screen space.
EDIT: One-Handed mode sort of provides this feature, but not exactly what I was looking for (like cinema-bars on top and bottom and no prominent "one-handed-mode" title.
I will continue to use the M51 for a couple of charges and decide if I am going to trade it again. The phone itself is performing well, supporting VoLTE WiFi calling but seems to lack carrier aggregation for no apparent reason. I strongly dislike the slippery, fingerprint-attracting, cheap-looking plastic backside of it.
I also hate that everywhere you tap it tries to sign up to a Samsung account. Also replaced the launcher with Nova launcher.
Below is the answer to almost all above useless posts
Battery life tests - GSMArena.com
Why I say useless ?
Simply. SOT will be completely different when you read ebooks compared when you watch movies or browse Internet.
Gsmarena does standarised comparison
I am fan of long life battery phones. I used "king" Lenovo P2 for over 2 years. M51 is better.
I'm at the fourth cycle of charge.. and got 15 hrs so far.. have done a heavy idb debloating
maby it will increase over more charging cycles?
i m getting about 20h sot normal usage
facebook lite, browser , youtube , aliexpress and playing alphalt extreme 30 min
wifi and dark mode on
brightness between 10-40 %
data off
location off
this phone have a very good battery

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