I have a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, on ver 6.0.1; Build No:MMB29K.G935FXXU1APD1
Notice couple week ago, I have finished my monthly data quota of 3Gb, upon checking data usage close to 1/3 is consumed by "Android OS" in background.
Since then, I been on quest to find out what actually caused the drain on data. I have tried
1. Run in safe mode, "Android OS" in background continue
2. Factory reset, "Android OS" in background continur.
3. "Reset Network Setting", work for a couple a day, then "Android OS" in background came back again.
4. Off all Google Account Sync and Off background data, "Android OS" in background continue too.
Now I am really out of ideas... really disappointed with Android now.... planning to sell off my phone and switch to Iphone
Just as a comparison, between 7am to 1pm today, "Android OS" already consumed 37Mb; while my web brwsing in the same period only used up 95mb. And I have Facebook app disabled already.
at a 'wag' I'd speculate that you have one/all of the background reporting enabled (diagnostics, security reports, app scanning, et. al.).
you could also take a walk through the 'optimize battery usage' settings to restrict the various apps to limit their usage.
these things are discussed in the battery consumption thread(s) but they also affect data usage.
^^^ what he said
I had the same issue the very first week I got the device (800+ MB consumed by Android OS) - it automagically stopped once I greenified and Dozed the sh!t out of it.
Mind you, even at the beginning I had no sync and most of apps disabled for background data usage.
Sh!ty implementation if you ask me: it almost looks like a collusion between Google and the carriers to waste your data. Why on Earth would they otherwise have "Download boost" and "Smart network switch" which both suck up your precious little data (I speak as a Canadian screwed by the monopolies...).
Ipse_Tase said:
Why on Earth would they otherwise have "Download boost" and "Smart network switch" which both suck up your precious little data
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"duh" - they can bill you for more data consumption, makes complete sense to me!
I had the thought that it'd be very nice (from a user' point of view) of everything not absolutely necessary was disabled by default and a nice 'wizard' walked you through enabling of ANYTHING which will use background data, location, or radio (essentially anything using power or money). Sort of the mirroring the "secure by default" ethic where everything would need to be individually opted-in. Alas, I feel this is contrary to the interests not only of the phone carriers (who want to bill more for data service), OEM (who want to regularly sell you a new device), and Google (who wants to leverage data of/about/by you to create $).
Or maybe I'm just a little cynical.
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^^^ what he said
I had the same issue the very first week I got the device (800+ MB consumed by Android OS) - it automagically stopped once I greenified and Dozed the sh!t out of it.
Mind you, even at the beginning I had no sync and most of apps disabled for background data usage.
Sh!ty implementation if you ask me: it almost looks like a collusion between Google and the carriers to waste your data. Why on Earth would they otherwise have "Download boost" and "Smart network switch" which both suck up your precious little data (I speak as a Canadian screwed by the monopolies...).
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how you greenify Doze? dont think it is available on Sammy phone.
I started to monitor the "Android OS" usage every 5~10min... what I notice is, it starts drain data every time I go online, e.g. surf net, FB app, etc.
So for example, surf net at 10:00am... and close the browser... 5 min later I will notice the "Andoird OS" data consumption increased by another 2-3Mb.
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how you greenify Doze? dont think it is available on Sammy phone.
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2.9beta2...read the forum thread in the Greenify section.
Ok, seems to have found a solution. I boot into recovery and
1. wipe cache
2. wipe data
now it is running ok. "Android OS" no longer draining data in background.
Not quite sure why the previous two time factory reset via setting menu wont do the tricks though.
I have the same trouble! Android SO consumes a lot of data, I'm gonna try your solution I hope it works!!
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Any solutions for this ? im still having this problem.
forum.xda-developers.com/note5/help/guide-how-to-fix-android-os-battery-t3423150
You may wanna check the wakelocks, probably most often used will be your evil one
AASAservice
Download the Package disabler in google play and disable the system app named AASAservice. You will be OK. I found this solution through a data manager app called DATAEYE. If you still worry about your data usage, you can try to use this app too.
Ipse_Tase said:
^^^ what he said
I had the same issue the very first week I got the device (800+ MB consumed by Android OS) - it automagically stopped once I greenified and Dozed the sh!t out of it.
Mind you, even at the beginning I had no sync and most of apps disabled for background data usage.
Sh!ty implementation if you ask me: it almost looks like a collusion between Google and the carriers to waste your data. Why on Earth would they otherwise have "Download boost" and "Smart network switch" which both suck up your precious little data (I speak as a Canadian screwed by the monopolies...).
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Samsung is actually very open about it. They said that first and foremost, it is the carriers, that are their customers. Not the average Joe blow like us.
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Download the Package disabler in google play and disable the system app named AASAservice. You will be OK. I found this solution through a data manager app called DATAEYE. If you still worry about your data usage, you can try to use this app too.
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Any specific "Package Disabler"? Since there is are at least 10 of them. Who si the developer?
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Any specific "Package Disabler"? Since there is are at least 10 of them. Who si the developer?
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I think he's talking about BK package disabler Pro which is what I use too, great app.
However, cant remember now if this is possible in MM but in Android 7 Nougat you can restrict data usage for anything you like except apps that really need to use data like facebook and your browser etc, but you can still restrict them from using background data regardless, screenshots below, as far as I'm concerned, theres not really much on my phone that I want accessing my data without me knowing about it, I don't send picture messages etc, and I don't need weather and traffic updates every 10 secs etc.
Can anyone tell me what is this?
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So I was browsing through settings, and I found "Settings" -> "Data Manager" -> "Data Meter" displays a nice little daily graph of data use.
Then if you press "Show usage by activity" you get a nice little pie chart.
But oh noes! The "Gallery" app is using 40% of my dataz???
Why does an app for storing photos use a greater percentage of my data than "Browser" and "Touchdown" combined???
[paranoia]Unless... it is uploading my photos somewhere. Is Motorola/T-Mo archiving all my photos so that they can data mine them later?[/paranoia]
Gallery settings shed no light on this. Ideas on how to figure this out?
Oh damn, u are right. What is it doing?. Syncing photos to Picasa or getting Picasa photos to mobile? me no techie but thats the only option I can think form Google point of view.
And i noticed Connected Music Player using equally as much data as the gallery. Wonder how this is happening. I dont listen to anything like podcast or internet radio with the player. Hmmm. .
Count me in. I noticed that some days ago, still no clue :-\
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Also, I should point out that I have had GPS turned off the entire time, and geotagging turned off on the camera.
Someone who has a bit more skill with the Shark for Root and Shark Reader apps can probably figure out what packets are going where and why... anyone?
EDIT: I'm blocking the app with DroidWall, a free firewall software. If you use it, make sure to set it to "blacklist" at the top and then check the two boxes next to "Media Storage, OMA Download, etc. etc." which is the one with "Gallery" in it. Then press the settings button on your Defy and choose "save rules". You can also enable logging - I am going to check back in a couple of days and see what the log says...
Hmm, I would be interested in checking this out for myself, but I don't even have "data meter" in the data manager menu. The only option I see is "data delivery."
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Hmm, I would be interested in checking this out for myself, but I don't even have "data meter" in the data manager menu. The only option I see is "data delivery."
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Same here, no such "meter" in mine. My phone is a T-Mobile USA branded phone. Was it deleted from later builds? BTW there is a discussion this same gallery/data issue on one of the Motorola forums.
Yeah I should mention that I am running the Android 2.1 firmware v.2.34 european rom on my USA phone. T-Mo cripples a lot of the features that let you see what your phone is doing for the USA phones.
Question is, are these "- manager" apps reliable? A few days ago, when I was looking into Battery manager what had been using my power, Maps was hands down the biggest juice stealer at about 50%. "Mobile standby", "Phone Idle" and "Display" was somewhere between 4-25% each. I had my gps disabled, no Latitude, no navigation no nothing.
Now, however, Maps doesn´t even show up in that list, and I haven´t been making any adjustments, apart from a different launcher.
finally I found someone with the same problem with me.. I've already posted about this thing a few days ago in a different forum with no results..
and someone directs me here..
still hopes for some solutions.. my defy is a tmobile us defy using 2.34 central europe no-blur rom..
I haven't used any data connection since the revelation of gallery data abuse...
about batery meter.. it's true that maps would use most of the battery juice even though you just use it under 10 minutes... because if you turn them on, the most power drawn was from the display.. the GPS and data comes next.. so if in 2 days you don't use any of those.. the maps battery usage will certainly vanished from the battery meter..
On the USA phone (and probably others) go into the INFO menu: dialer > *#*#4636#*#* > usage statistics > usage time/launch count/application name. Not the same as a pie chart for actual data used but it does seem to show what's being used and for how long and how often.
Then on the menu just before "usage statistics" there is "battery history" which has several selections including "network usage". If you tap on one of the applications listed you will get another menu that gives Bytes received and Bytes sent. The initial settings are:
"Since last unplugged"
"Total since boot"
"Total in all time"
Thanks for the tip scrannel, I had forgotten about that.
So if I go to *#*#4636#*#*, then "battery history", then "network usage", then "Total in all time" my number one application is "Media". If I click on that, then it turns out that it is the same application package that contains Gallery - so that is why Gallery shows up on the pie chart.
The application package includes:
DRM Protected Content Storage
Download Manager
Gallery
Media Storage
MediaSync
OMA Download
com.motorola.android.oma.drm
com.motorola.android.wmdrm.dla
I would suspect that it is the Download Manager that is the culprit here. So I would assume that "Media" (aka "Gallery") is huge because of all of the files I have downloaded, and Browser is the separate list just web pages / html.
I particularly like the category: "Total in all time"... like Android use going back to the Big Bang.
I asked support about the 'Gallery' issue a few weeks ago. Their final reply, after some investigation was:
"We have checked this with our technicians and would like to say that this reading of data transferred in not accurate in the phone software. We have reported it to our engineers and it should be corrected in a future update.
For now, we can advise that to check the amount of data transferred you use the phone's data manager or some application from the Android Marketplace."
So, they say the data manager is not accurate and then advise you to use the data manager. There you have it.
One suggestion that makes some sense is that all the pictures downloaded in FB, Twitter etc. notifications are counted in the 'Gallery'.
They said their data manager was not accurate and that you may find a better one on the market.
Don't know about gallery, but connect music player will use some data for lyrics and other info....though maybe not as much as is being reported by what could be a bad data manager.
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Possible solution
Hi there, just got myself a Defy and have skimmed through this thread.
I think I MAY have solved this issue, though won't know for sure for at least a couple of hours (time to check usage etc)
If you go into settings, accounts, there will be your motoblur, google, facebook and any others you might have added.
If you stay on the list of accounts screen and tap menu, you will see a tab that says "picture source" Mine was selected as facebook so I deleted that account from there.
I am using a different facebook app now, just the standard facebook for android from the market that usually comes with the htc phones.
I have only just changed this setting so won't know for sure until it's been changed for a while.
It does mean that you won't be able to use the social networking app that comes with the phone unless you can set it to NOT use it as the picture source. I couldn't change mine so just deleted that account. You can still use facebook widgets, just don't use the internal social networking app.
Hope this is of some use to you all.
Alison
Gallery app just took 305mb in less than an hour.
Just had this problem with my new SGS3.. By chance I had a limit set on my data, but it still download in background 305mb.. can't find what it is. The "Sync Google Photos" and "Sync Picasa Web Albums" did not ran at all today so it's not the cause.. but I must find why it download that much on mobile data, when I was all night long on wifi so it should have download what it needs last night.
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Just had this problem with my new SGS3.. By chance I had a limit set on my data, but it still download in background 305mb.. can't find what it is. The "Sync Google Photos" and "Sync Picasa Web Albums" did not ran at all today so it's not the cause.. but I must find why it download that much on mobile data, when I was all night long on wifi so it should have download what it needs last night.
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Please post your problem in s3 thread because of different hardware and software. You wont get a solution here for this problem.
So my advice, post it in a s3 thread to get the best help.
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Please post your problem in s3 thread because of different hardware and software. You wont get a solution here for this problem.
So my advice, post it in a s3 thread to get the best help.
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Yeah, sorry about that. I noticed after posting, and then post it in general Q/A.
Thanks
I'm monitoring my data usage on my phone because I have al limited data subscription. Now I see Android System Using alot of data (background) when the phone is in standby. I dunno what for, when I press to look at the stats it just says Android System. I don't backup, only sync my contacts, gmail and agenda. Is there someting I'm overlooking that uses data through the android system. Its frustrating because its eating my data away without the knowledge on what or which program is using.
Maybe someone can inform me what to do? Used 90 MB in the last five days only on Android System.
SOLVED: It was a app called Dumpert.nl (dutch app for funny movies) everytime I played a movie it was loading as Android System. I noticed it when Dumpert wasn't showing any big data usage while using 3G.
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I'm monitoring my data usage on my phone because I have al limited data subscription. Now I see Android System Using alot of data (background) when the phone is in standby. I dunno what for, when I press to look at the stats it just says Android System. I don't backup, only sync my contacts, gmail and agenda. Is there someting I'm overlooking that uses data through the android system. Its frustrating because its eating my data away without the knowledge on what or which program is using.
Maybe someone can inform me what to do? Used 90 MB in the last five days only on Android System.
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restrict background data in data usage in setting
I have similar problem, but it is still within my data plan limit, so I just ignore it!
What I hate are these general terms in the data monitor app. Android system! Please google try to break it down to something more detailed for a normal user!
I also have quite a lot of data used by the play store, although I never download or update apps except on WIFI! I'm not sure how I got this data used!
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Restricting the background data isn't possible with Android-System. It's bugging the hell out of me. I come from iPhone and if this isn't going to be sorted out soon. I will get a iPhone because this is not normal. I want to be the one who is using data and not the system alone. Google needs te be more specific on this subject. Nobody knows what "Android-System is doing. All the information is blocked.
I know most of the things to improve battery but I want to know if anyone knows of other ways to improve battery. I have a s7 edge now on G935U. I know rooting can improve battery life but I can't find a root method for my phone on 6.0.1 and I don't want to risk bricking it unless I know for sure it would work.
What I do to Improve battery
Disabled auto sync
Disabled auto update
Disabled all bloatware with package disabler
AOD is off
Never keep WiFi on during sleep
I know about black screen or dark themes
Adjusting brightness
Turning off location
Turning off Bluetooth
Turning off WiFi
But really what else can I really do? I feel like my battery life on my s7 edge sucks. Any help?
I always logout of facebook, no matter what phone I have, seems to help keep that battery muncher of an app under control. Auto display brightness, pocket detection and dark themes. I get about 22 hours out of my phone on a charge with medium use. 3 to 4 hours screen on.
I always use AoD, have never noticed much of a difference in battery with or without it.
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Download Package Disabler Pro from the play store.
Use it to disable any system apps you don't use. Focus on the ones that are in "pink text" Also Don't ever use any Facebook apps. (Facebook, FB messenger, FB Page Manager, FB contacts etc) I delete the data from all of them force stop them and disable them first thing. They do a ton of shady stuff in the background that eats your battery and disguises itself as "Android System" on your battery usage page.
I wish Samsung would stop including them in the Firmware all together. If you have to use Facebook just go to the website usering the Samsung browser app with Crystal ad blocking on and block the cookies. Facebook is a shady company even just going to the website from your phone can drastically impact its performance from all of the trackers they install on your device. IMO the entire Facebook app suite should be flagged as spyware by Google.
Next look for AT&T software. There is a tone of it. You can just search for att in the search bar and it will pull it all up. AT&T like to gather a TON of your information and usage stats in the background as well. This too is disguised as "Android System" battery drain even though it is not. Any apps branded AT&T that you don't use get rid of them.
Also in the case of this device, there is No REAL root process. There is an ENG BOOT root, but its super buggy and generally terrible for battery life.
ShrekOpher said:
Download Package Disabler Pro from the play store.
Use it to disable any system apps you don't use. Focus on the ones that are in "pink text" Also Don't ever use any Facebook apps. (Facebook, FB messenger, FB Page Manager, FB contacts etc) I delete the data from all of them force stop them and disable them first thing. They do a ton of shady stuff in the background that eats your battery and disguises itself as "Android System" on your battery usage page.
I wish Samsung would stop including them in the Firmware all together. If you have to use Facebook just go to the website usering the Samsung browser app with Crystal ad blocking on and block the cookies. Facebook is a shady company even just going to the website from your phone can drastically impact its performance from all of the trackers they install on your device. IMO the entire Facebook app suite should be flagged as spyware by Google.
Next look for AT&T software. There is a tone of it. You can just search for att in the search bar and it will pull it all up. AT&T like to gather a TON of your information and usage stats in the background as well. This too is disguised as "Android System" battery drain even though it is not. Any apps branded AT&T that you don't use get rid of them.
Also in the case of this device, there is No REAL root process. There is an ENG BOOT root, but its super buggy and generally terrible for battery life.
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I just unlocked my phone no more att. Unless there I still other stuff? Any other suggestions?
Krazie99 said:
I just unlocked my phone no more att. Unless there I still other stuff? Any other suggestions?
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FACEBOOK All Facebook apps (FB Pages, FB Messenger, FB app, FB System setting, etc.)
ShrekOpher said:
FACEBOOK All Facebook apps (FB Pages, FB Messenger, FB app, FB System setting, etc.)
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How can use messenger on the Internet without downloading the app?
Good battery life or? How can I check my SOT?
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How can use messenger on the Internet without downloading the app?
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Use an Android browser that allows you to "request the desktop page" and you can get to FB Messages w/o the app.
I prefer Firefox with suitable blocker plugins installed, optionally in Private mode.
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How can use messenger on the Internet without downloading the app?
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Use the chrome app and "request desktop site" from settings.
Anyone know why my stand by time is taking 20%?
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Use an Android browser that allows you to "request the desktop page" and you can get to FB Messages w/o the app.
I prefer Firefox with suitable blocker plugins installed, optionally in Private mode.
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Swipe Pro for Facebook found in Google Play Store is another good alternative to using FB apps
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My biggest tip for improving battery life is staying off of large Wifi networks (i.e. school, airports, work) . The constant LAN wakeups will kill your battery.
-Turn off location when not in use (I use tasker to auto turn on/off locstion when bluetooth connects/disconnects in my car)
- i disabled carrierIQ using System Tuner, which seems to have helped (requires root). The EZ Package Disabler Rootless method did not disable carrierIQ for me.
Disabling "bloat" apps didnt really help much with battery life IMHO
I get about 4.5-6hrs SOT. The eng_boot root method is really not as bad as everyone says it is after you apply all the fixes that are floating around. (V15 fix zip, L speed, govtuner)
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Anyone know why my stand by time is taking 20%?
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Poor cell reception or there is an app constantly pinging your location.
If you have Facebook installed and allow it Location access that could be it.
Also sometimes Google Play services gets hung up for the same reason. A reboot will fix the Google issue.
Lastly it could be at&t. If they are working on towers near you it can cause this drain, or if you have not disabled the AT&T apps that track your phone.
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Poor cell reception or there is an app constantly pinging your location.
If you have Facebook installed and allow it Location access that could be it.
Also sometimes Google Play services gets hung up for the same reason. A reboot will fix the Google issue.
Lastly it could be at&t. If they are working on towers near you it can cause this drain, or if you have not disabled the AT&T apps that track your phone.
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I deleted Facebook and pretty sure turned off location on everything. I unlocked my phone so I don't att apps. I get 2 or 3 bars now I unlocked my phone so it's not terrible
FWIW, you can use the Edge "My Places" panel to automatically manage wifi on/off based upon geolocation or bluetooth, and some other ways. I use it to automatically force wifi off whenever in my car (because of bluetooth connect) or at work (via gofence, no wifi available), and that helps. It's also standard on the GS7edge.
The battery life has very little to do with Facebook or Messenger if you have the settings for the apps tweaked to not notify on every little thing. Also, you can limit background data inherently in Android, thus using less power to get real-time updates from either app. You can limit Messenger's notifications, including eliminating chat heads, etc. If Facebook were solely responsible for poor battery life on this device, it'd be the same on very device. That just isn't the case. It definitely is a resource hog as-is, but not if you contain it.
That said, I'm a big advocate for limiting background data for any social networking apps: FB, Snapchat, etc. I would rather have to open an app to see what I've missed than have dozens of notifications throughout my day. I save real-time updates for things like email, Amazon, and the like. You can also set wifi settings to not be so aggressive (I believe mentioned earlier in the thread). Beyond that....root the device and set up custom power settings and profiles for CPU, etc. Your performance will potentially suffer for it, and the eng kernel has the worst battery life of any I've ever used, but there are ways to fine tune it that you simply can't achieve without root.
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The battery life has very little to do with Facebook or Messenger if you have the settings for the apps tweaked to not notify on every little thing. Also, you can limit background data inherently in Android, thus using less power to get real-time updates from either app. You can limit Messenger's notifications, including eliminating chat heads, etc. If Facebook were solely responsible for poor battery life on this device, it'd be the same on very device. That just isn't the case. It definitely is a resource hog as-is, but not if you contain it.
That said, I'm a big advocate for limiting background data for any social networking apps: FB, Snapchat, etc. I would rather have to open an app to see what I've missed than have dozens of notifications throughout my day. I save real-time updates for things like email, Amazon, and the like. You can also set wifi settings to not be so aggressive (I believe mentioned earlier in the thread). Beyond that....root the device and set up custom power settings and profiles for CPU, etc. Your performance will potentially suffer for it, and the eng kernel has the worst battery life of any I've ever used, but there are ways to fine tune it that you simply can't achieve without root.
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Have you actually done any research into what the Facebook app does? It's a system app, doing the thing you mention above without root will not effect its ability to use your data and drain your battery. It's not about the core features of the app its about all the spying it does. FB Messenger keeps a log of every messenger you send whether or not it's sent through the APP or not.
Facebook installs trackers on your phone that read your credit card and banking apps data to track purchases. It also pings your location to know where you shop and what you eat. Then feeds you ads related to it and tells the companies you bought something because you saw the ad. All of that data is bundled up and sent out to be resold to any company that wants it.
Any phone iPhone or Android that comes with the Facebook apps pre installed on it the apps are the main culprit of battery drain and random data usage. There is even a lawsuit filed in California against Facebook saying it is illegally using both data and power and disguising it as normal system usage so end users don't know that it is their apps to blame.
If you know anyone who works in advertising at a fortune 500 company that has bought ads for Facebook they will tell you the same. And if you do any real research into Facebook apps programing you will see it is true. Their are MANY people who have tore apart the apks to find exactly what I am talking about and shared it all over the Internet. Facebook spends millions with PR companies to keep it quiet, because the only way for them to monetize their app is to offer highly targeted ads and purchase tracking.
As for rooting the S7E its garbage, not what I consider REAL root and a waste of time. Also it kills the performance of the device.
Particularly this app.
Trust me if you like your battery life and/or your privacy disabling Facebook is the most important thing to do to any device you get.
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Have you actually done any research into what the Facebook app does? It's a system app, doing the thing you mention above without root will not effect its ability to use your data and drain your battery. It's not about the core features of the app its about all the spying it does. FB Messenger keeps a log of every messenger you send whether or not it's sent through the APP or not.
Facebook installs trackers on your phone that read your credit card and banking apps data to track purchases. It also pings your location to know where you shop and what you eat. Then feeds you ads related to it and tells the companies you bought something because you saw the ad. All of that data is bundled up and sent out to be resold to any company that wants it.
Any phone iPhone or Android that comes with the Facebook apps pre installed on it the apps are the main culprit of battery drain and random data usage. There is even a lawsuit filed in California against Facebook saying it is illegally using both data and power and disguising it as normal system usage so end users don't know that it is their apps to blame.
If you know anyone who works in advertising at a fortune 500 company that has bought ads for Facebook they will tell you the same. And if you do any real research into Facebook apps programing you will see it is true. Their are MANY people who have tore apart the apks to find exactly what I am talking about and shared it all over the Internet. Facebook spends millions with PR companies to keep it quiet, because the only way for them to monetize their app is to offer highly targeted ads and purchase tracking.
As for rooting the S7E its garbage, not what I consider REAL root and a waste of time. Also it kills the performance of the device.
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Facebook is not a system app when it's obtained through the Play Store. Here's a screen shot illustrating that; I have a backup of the system app, but it is not currently installed. I've installed from the Play Store, and it is not installed as a system app. Permissions are in my full control, and even if I weren't rooted, I could disable the default Facebook app and install anew from the Play Store.
You made quite a few claims with zero citations, criticizing me for not knowing the depth of the Facebook advertising conspiracy. Facebook is pretty transparent about what it does with your data and who it is allowed to share that with. It's all accessible for the curious minds of conspiracy theorists. All of which derails the topic of this thread, which is battery life.
Clearly, you don't use Facebook in the form of an app, and I do. That said, I can attest to having considerably better battery life when I tweak the permissions, data consumption allowance, and notification settings.
Let's keep this thread on topic
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Facebook is not a system app when it's obtained through the Play Store.
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On some GS7E variants it comes as a pre-installed system app (AT&T for example) and you can't undo that w/o root.
I uninstalled package disabler pro and battery life got better, and system ui is much faster, am also using adguard, it uses a lot of battery but also prevents all those ads to use battery as well.
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I uninstalled all that because my phones battery was dying over night
I recently discovered the joys of package disabling, using this XDA article as a guide and it has been 99% amazing. My battery life went up significantly and the bixby button is disabled without having to use some third party app.
However, the 1% that isn't amazing is the fact that google play seems to no longer be able to automatically update my apps. I can go in and manually update them, and it still shows a big list of which apps are available to update, and auto update is still turned on... but I suspect something I disabled may be not allowing google play to actually run the updates. Any thoughts?
I was reading another thread about which things people have disabled, and someone mentioned the settings menu loads slower... another person knew right away that it was two services that you had to re-enable, so I figured maybe someone just kinda knew what to do without having to go through each service/package and guess...
jigielnik said:
I recently discovered the joys of package disabling, using this XDA article as a guide and it has been 99% amazing. My battery life went up significantly and the bixby button is disabled without having to use some third party app.
However, the 1% that isn't amazing is the fact that google play seems to no longer be able to automatically update my apps. I can go in and manually update them, and it still shows a big list of which apps are available to update, and auto update is still turned on... but I suspect something I disabled may be not allowing google play to actually run the updates. Any thoughts?
I was reading another thread about which things people have disabled, and someone mentioned the settings menu loads slower... another person knew right away that it was two services that you had to re-enable, so I figured maybe someone just kinda knew what to do without having to go through each service/package and guess...
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I ran basically the same huge long list that guy exported in the thread about disabling Bixby / etc.. and I didn't experience this issue. You may have to play the 50/50 game until you isolate which service is responsible
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Hi, I've just found my rooted HD10 is constantly downloading at a rate up to 20Mbit/s. It shifted 20GB overnight. . Unfortunately I have no idea what's doing it. Are there any apps that work with Fire OS which will display the network usage of apps? Ones I've found so far require an android permissions setting that the Fire doesn't have... Thanks
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Hi, I've just found my rooted HD10 is constantly downloading at a rate up to 20Mbit/s. It shifted 20GB overnight. . Unfortunately I have no idea what's doing it. Are there any apps that work with Fire OS which will display the network usage of apps? Ones I've found so far require an android permissions setting that the Fire doesn't have... Thanks
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Do you have the "On-Deck" feature in the stock Amazon Video/Music apps disabled? I know that will automatically download large files.
I think Simple System Monitor might show network use per app. It's rather helpful in general.
I also noticed the other day on the newest firmware that there is a new, annoying background process/app that is running constantly. I disabled it and haven't had any functionality issues. I don't know if that's the culprit, but maybe?
Hope this helps or at least is a starting point!
-Richard
Thanks Richard. Although the app doesn't show the individual network usage, I think because it needs to be granted 'Usage Data Access' which doesn't appear to be an option on the HD10, it did show that the Amazon 'Download Manager' was chewing the most CPU time. Forced stopped that and the downloads ceased.
Anyone any idea what Download Manager usually downloads? And is it safe to disable it if it goes rogue again?
*edit: disabled it, what's the worst that can happen
Cheers
Also, I just stumbled upon this snazzy app, which seems like it would also be a helpful tool with regard to the kind of app bandwidth/data usage information you're trying to investigate. Hope it helps!
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jedbartlet said:
Thanks Richard. Although the app doesn't show the individual network usage, I think because it needs to be granted 'Usage Data Access' which doesn't appear to be an option on the HD10, it did show that the Amazon 'Download Manager' was chewing the most CPU time. Forced stopped that and the downloads ceased.
Anyone any idea what Download Manager usually downloads? And is it safe to disable it if it goes rogue again?
*edit: disabled it, what's the worst that can happen
Cheers
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You made me curious ?️ I went into my own "Download Manager" apk and peeked inside its inner workings... didn't find anything very exciting. Here are some photos of the code/components and permissions used for the app. On my HD 10, it has hardly been touched and hasn't used much data at all, and it's not one of the system apps I disabled, so I'm not really sure... ? But I think you'll be alright with it disabled...
The only other thing I might suggest, in your Settings, under Security & Privacy, maybe make sure you don't have "Collect App Usage Data" selected? I think Download Manager might have something to do with your download history and creepy Amazon sales metrics.
Well disabling had a bit of an unwanted side effect - Google Play won't open!
I'll keep looking to see what's requesting the Download Manager to download stuff, starting with disabling DeviceSoftwareOTA.