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This is a thing that has puzzled me a bit, so first I'll present my own point of view and then I'd really like to hear what you guys think.
You can see pictures of the G4 here http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-G4-leaks-in-all-of-its-glory_id68166
My G2 has served me really well, and honestly it doesn't have to be replaced. It's still very fast and gets the job done. However, after 1 ½ year it gets old - it has never been the most interesting phone design-wise and with the new phones having a much more attractive design you get tempted. Add to that, that the battery isn't what it used to be either. What made me buy it back then, was it's absolutely fantastic internals at an affordable price. And I don't regret purchasing it.
The LG G4 looks great - especially in leather - and the fact that it has MicroSD support and a removable battery means that I won't run short of storage (especially when flashing and keeping backups on the phone) and wiping internal storage is no longer a headache. The camera is supposed to be brilliant, but we'll have to see how it works out in real life. The screen looks promising - rumors say it's using 'Quantum Dot' display which results in better color accuracy and is more battery efficient. All good so far!
But according to the latest rumors, this thing comes with a Snapdragon 808. And mildly put, it doesn't look too well. Sure LG didn't have many options - either go with the overheating 810 or put in a worse 808. Not only is the 808 worse than the 810, it's also worse than the 805 in terms of GPU capabilities and power. It's not much but last year most people considered a Snapdragon 805 the absolute minimum requirement for a phone with a QHD display. We all saw how the LG G3 performed with its QHD display - it wasn't bad, but by no means impressive.
I think that LG should've sticked to the 810 and disable two of the four A57 cores on a kernel level. I'm sure a 4+2 setup is plenty processing power, but the Adreno 430 GPU outperforms the Adreno 418 (found in the Snapdragon 808) by a huge margin. In addition to that, Snapdragon 810 supports DDR4 RAM.
I'm torn, and thinking to wait for the Samsung Note 5 and hope it won't come with a UHD display. What are your thoughts?
The Lg g2 had been my best ✆ for three years. It was gorgeous, it was very fast, it lasted all day.
I wasn't impressed with the G3 but I think the G4 has my name written on it. They've had some time to play with the configuration, I'm sure it will be excellent.
They're going to have to crank up the design next year though. Just saying.
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I don't think I'll buy a G4, but I'm pretty sure that my G2 will dress the G4 rom...
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eh i will skip G4 becouse i bought my G2 one year ago and i still need to stay with it for 12 months, but i will probably buy G5 or other 2016 flagship phone
As lg phones are locked down, I'm not gonna buy it. The g2 is great and is still the greatest phone they made. But as a flashaholic and someone who likes modding their phone, an unlocked bootloader is very important to me. I only bought the g2 because it was such great value. It turned out to be such a powerful and fun little beast though with a great community as well. It was lightening in a bottle. But my criteria is a bit more strict now. I'll be sticking with the 1+ for a while
No need. I see no advantage to upgrading because my G2 can do everything I need it to. When I get another phone it'll be a nexus or the Asus Zenphone 2, whichever has the larger community.
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I don't think I'll buy a G4, but I'm pretty sure that my G2 will dress the G4 rom...
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Either this or I just may break down and grab a Note 5 or S6 Edge after they iron the initial kinks out.
We'll see... G3 is a good phone and would rank higher if the G2 didn't exist but wasn't great enough to make me sell My G2.
With that said...let the games begin
I don't think I'll buy a G4, but I'm pretty sure that my G2 will dress the G4 rom...so do I·
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With the G2 being a beast phone there's really not enough to convince me why I should upgrade to the G4 besides the Camera, Removable Battery and Expandable Storage. I live perfectly fine without a Removable Battery and Expandable Storage and the G2 has 32GB of Internal Memory and a 3000mAh battery.. so why bother? There's more chance of me getting a 1+ if I was going to upgrade. I have yet to experience a world with an unlocked bootloader.
Yay for capitalism!
Any like @siggey said,
siggey said:
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This will more than likely happen.
G2 is great with me, but looking for better camera with G4.
FullHD is enough, 2k is not really necessary. More important thing is the battery life - which many people said that 2k display on G3 made the battery worse.
I think like the OP. I have a vs980 but I'm seriously thinking about jumping to T-Mobile. I thought I read last year that LG was going to allow unlocked bootloaders going forward with the G3. Given the fact that the G4 has a Snapdragon processor, an external SD card slot and removable batteries I'm thinking there is a lot of potential for a large dev community (especially since the S6 doesn't offer these things). We'll see.
No. I went back to the g2 from the g3 because I didn't like the size. I would get a g4 mini iff it was 5-5.2 and had a high end processor. As it stands now, the s6 and s6 edge look like more suitable replacements
I'm tired of drama
I'm not going to use LG anymore, LG does not satisfy me.
Having owned a few Android devices, I am getting a feeling that the best way to get android experience is to buy a Nexus device. The hardware and the price are only a part of the equation, although we know Nexus devices normally have a great price-performance relation. What makes Nexus so cool is having less pre-installed bloat or custumizations and it's pretty much guaranteed that for the next three years or so you will be the first in the line to get the android updates. Case in point is the stock ROM situation with the current G2. It gives you a glimpse of what it will be like to use the G4 18 months from now. Even though Lollipop 5.1 has come and gone, and the Nexus devices are now running the latest revision of Android 6.0.x, the G2 is still on 5.0.x. Another great example is my Samsung Galaxy Tab S tablet that I bought only a year ago. (This was Samsung's flagship tablet in 2014). Same story here. Still using 5.0, and I imagine Marshmallow is something like six months away and it will be the final update from Samsung. On the other hand, the ancient Nexus 7 is still getting Marshmallow updates.
The new LG G4 Pro is coming this october
The specs are:
Screen: 5.8" 1440x2560
SoC: Snapdragon 820
RAM: 4GB
Storage: 32/64GB
Camera: 27MP
Case: Metal
Do you think the G4 was premature and do you feel like LG ripped you off.
Leave your comments below.
Jury is still out, but an upgrade less than six months after debuting......that's not going to sit well with a LOT of people.
No I don't. It's good to have options and price wise the G4 is well worth it. Its like the S6 line up or the iPhones. They all have different versions of the same device so why not LG G4?
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The new LG G4 Pro is coming this october
The specs are:
Screen: 5.8" 1440x2560
SoC: Snapdragon 820
RAM: 4GB
Storage: 32/64GB
Camera: 27MP
Case: Metal
Do you think the G4 was premature and do you feel like LG ripped you off.
Leave your comments below.
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And its still just a rumor, both the availability of the phone and those specs you posted.
There is no guarantee it's a global release. It's a bigger phone so doesn't really interest me going away from my G4. I think 5.5 is the perfect size for a screen.
5.5" screen is as big as I'll go with a phone so I'm content with the G4, if anything I could always use my Jump if I wanted to get this phone.
Reasons I'm not bothered:
1) Only rumours, so who really knows
2) The G4 is still a fantastic phone
3) The G4 is a particularly fantastic phone for the PRICE (which is easily £100-200 cheaper than almost all current rivals)
4) The G4 Pro will be super expensive. I don't pay stupid money for phones out of principal, so I'd probably sit it out anyway.
Go for G4 Pro "only' if you need bigger screen or fablet. Otherwise, G4 5.5" is perfect for use.
All rumors 5.8 btw is way to big ! 5.5 is really the max to handle with one hand .
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It's wayyyy to big! G4 is pushing the size already. I won't do any bigger! G4 is all good in the hood.
depends on the price they release the G4 Pro at, and the size too. the increased size will be a limitation for some. I've had the g2, g3 and now the g4, and even though the g4 is only marginally larger than the g3, it was noticeable to me. I'm not sure I want a Nexus 6 sized phone. Plus I can jump in Jan 16 if it's worth it.
I think it is a sealed unit. No thanks
Doesn't bother me. I basically see it as the Galaxy S and Note line situation. First half of the year is reserved for the flagship with a smaller screen and later in the year the bigger device gets released with an obvious spec bump.
Who cares. If we bought phones based on what comes out in 6 months then we would never pull the trigger.
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You might be glad to have this phone. According to that specs it won't be anywhere close to $600 range. I'm guessing more like $800 - $1000. And did Qualcomm announce snapdragon 820? I know they announced SD810 revison 2 or something.
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That device is already well into tablet territory. I'll stick with my LG G4. Owning an LG G4 Pro would not justify me owning a Nexus 7.
I can barely handle the G4 5.5" one handed. The G2 was really the sweet spot. If they designed the G2 similar to the G4, with a curved back/screen, I could probably do 5.3 or 5.4 comfortably. 5.5 is just a hair outside of my comfort zone but is manageable.
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Reasons I'm not bothered:
1) Only rumours, so who really knows
2) The G4 is still a fantastic phone
3) The G4 is a particularly fantastic phone for the PRICE (which is easily £100-200 cheaper than almost all current rivals)
4) The G4 Pro will be super expensive. I don't pay stupid money for phones out of principal, so I'd probably sit it out anyway.
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5) given history, it won't even come to the USA
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And its still just a rumor, both the availability of the phone and those specs you posted.
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This really cannot be emphasized enough. Remember how the first alleged G4/G4 Note leak from late March by that T-Mobile employee actually turned out to be the mid-range Stylo? October is a long way away and nobody gets it correct this early.
As for my thoughts:
The G4 is already borderline in terms of comfortably fitting in my pocket. It already doesn't fit the cupholder of one of my cars and barely fits in the cupholder of the other.
G4 : G4 Pro :: Galaxy S6 : Galaxy Note 5
I needed a new phone 3-6 months ago.
If you keep waiting for something better to come out, you'll never buy anything.
I heavily considered the Nexus 6 as it is the only BL unlocked phone on VZW. In the end though, it was just to big to carry in a pocket for me.
If the leaked screenshots are accurate, both devices seem to be very similar regarding specs.
I think the are only two major differences: the screen (IPS LCD vs Super AMOLED) and the battery (3080 vs 3510). The battery is not a big deal for me, and the screen... I don't know. Right now I have IPS LCD and I'm happy (though with higher PPI).
On the other hand, I guess the Moto G5 Plus life span will be longer, as usually the G series have a very broad community behind. Moto Z Play doesn't seem to be so popular, just for the battery duration.
So what do you think? Is it worth it to wait for the G5 Plus, which according to rumors will be released in less than a month? I'm expecting the price to be slightly lower than the Z Play, guess around 350€
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If the leaked screenshots are accurate, both devices seem to be very similar regarding specs.
I think the are only two major differences: the screen (IPS LCD vs Super AMOLED) and the battery (3080 vs 3510). The battery is not a big deal for me, and the screen... I don't know. Right now I have IPS LCD and I'm happy (though with higher PPI).
On the other hand, I guess the Moto G5 Plus life span will be longer, as usually the G series have a very broad community behind. Moto Z Play doesn't seem to be so popular, just for the battery duration.
So what do you think? Is it worth it to wait for the G5 Plus, which according to rumors will be released in less than a month? I'm expecting the price to be slightly lower than the Z Play, guess around 350€
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A wouldn't bother with Motorola anymore o thanks to Lenovo but ur choice
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A wouldn't bother with Motorola anymore o thanks to Lenovo but ur choice
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Ditto! This was my first ever android phone, and I am totally dejected by the build quality and lackluster support.
yzT said:
If the leaked screenshots are accurate, both devices seem to be very similar regarding specs.
I think the are only two major differences: the screen (IPS LCD vs Super AMOLED) and the battery (3080 vs 3510). The battery is not a big deal for me, and the screen... I don't know. Right now I have IPS LCD and I'm happy (though with higher PPI).
On the other hand, I guess the Moto G5 Plus life span will be longer, as usually the G series have a very broad community behind. Moto Z Play doesn't seem to be so popular, just for the battery duration.
So what do you think? Is it worth it to wait for the G5 Plus, which according to rumors will be released in less than a month? I'm expecting the price to be slightly lower than the Z Play, guess around 350€
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The question is: Why are you asking this in the moto g4 plus forum and not in the Z play forum? Z play is available so people there can told you, but here the people cannot?!
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A wouldn't bother with Motorola anymore o thanks to Lenovo but ur choice
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+1
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The question is: Why are you asking this in the moto g4 plus forum and not in the Z play forum? Z play is available so people there can told you, but here the people cannot?!
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because the G5 Plus is the evolution of the G4 Plus. It's more expected that someone from the same series (G) move to the newer model instead than someone moving from the flagship series (Z).
to all the others complaining about Motorola, why are you in this section? Go away if you don't like it
wait for the G5
I'd wait for the G5. I'm very happy with my G4 plus, my next phone will definitely be in this series. Unless Motorola implodes....
I bought G4 plus a week ago. It's a great phone. But I think You should go for Nokia series though. I bet the nokia like always will provide more durability than the Chinese. I used 6 Nokia phones before G4 plus, all of them were bomb. Still If you want a better display with slightly better battery life, you should wait.
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I bought G4 plus a week ago. It's a great phone. But I think You should go for Nokia series though. I bet the nokia like always will provide more durability than the Chinese. I used 6 Nokia phones before G4 plus, all of them were bomb. Still If you want a better display with slightly better battery life, you should wait.
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You know that now Nokia is only a name? There will never be Nokia quality like in good old times! It's a smartphone and at the top are letters telling you "Nokia".
It'll be interesting to see how the Nokia 6 (and the rumoured Nokia 8) fare, see if HMD Global/Nokia are back to their former glory. Also remains to be seen if the Moto G5 actually matches up to the rumoured specs too!
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You know that now Nokia is only a name? There will never be Nokia quality like in good old times! It's a smartphone and at the top are letters telling you "Nokia".
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Yeah but the people who worked on the phone are all Nokia veterans. They used to work for Old Nokia. And with the first sell they had in China I think Nokia has the potential to gain back the reputation they lost due to Microsoft. I am not saying you are wrong, This is just my opinion as I used to be A Nokia fanboy.
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Yeah but the people who worked on the phone are all Nokia veterans. They used to work for Old Nokia. And with the first sell they had in China I think Nokia has the potential to gain back the reputation they lost due to Microsoft. I am not saying you are wrong, This is just my opinion as I used to be A Nokia fanboy.
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+1 Nokia fan boy let's hope you're right and Nokia will find back to the old quality
I am a Z Play user so I would recommend it to you, because it has frontal flash, Moto mods, bigger battery and USB Type C. Regarding to custom ROMs, it's not so popular because it was released 3 months ago, but it has lineage OS (camera is in process to be fixed) and surely other ROMs will come out. Every device takes some time to become popular and have custom ROMs, so if you like custom ROMs and are going to wait for G5, you will have to deal with it. Greetings
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I am a Z Play user so I would recommend it to you, because it has frontal flash, Moto mods, bigger battery and USB Type C. Regarding to custom ROMs, it's not so popular because it was released 3 months ago, but it has lineage OS (camera is in process to be fixed) and surely other ROMs will come out. Every device takes some time to become popular and have custom ROMs, so if you like custom ROMs and are going to wait for G5, you will have to deal with it. Greetings
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Do Moto mods work in a non stock ROM?
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Do Moto mods work in a non stock ROM?
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Not yet, but I'm sure they will someday
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Not yet, but I'm sure they will someday
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You need to port libraries etc. It's quite difficult
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You need to port libraries etc. It's quite difficult
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I trust developers, they're very knowledgeable. Developers of Moto Z are working on this too
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Not yet, but I'm sure they will someday
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In my past experience something that requires porting libraries is only supported in stock based Roms and not ones based in AOSP or CAF. ( Kind of like Moto Display)
I hope it does though.
I've been on the lookout for a new phone. I've been generally thinking of getting an previous generation flagship (LG G5 / S7). I'm leaning more towards LG because it's generally cheaper and has better development. A used LG can be found for a similar price to a new moto g5. So I was just curious as to what you all thought how the Moto G5 (plus) compares to the LG G5 in terms of performance and maybe camera. Those are generally the two most important things to me right now. I know the LG has some build issues so I'm also a little hesitant about picking it up.
I'll probably float in the forums for awhile to see how development goes to make a final decision, but I'm also curious about how you all speculate development will be for the g5 plus.
DO NOT GET AN LG G5! I came from one the battery is very poor and performance is not that great.
This phone lasts me 2 days with medium usage. Performs great and has a better camera. I'm actually still paying on a lease for the g5, I hated it so much that I just decided to eat my mistake and buy this phone.
No regrets. Get this phone!
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DO NOT GET AN LG G5! I came from one the battery is very poor and performance is not that great.
This phone lasts me 2 days with medium usage. Performs great and has a better camera. I'm actually still paying on a lease for the g5, I hated it so much that I just decided to eat my mistake and buy this phone.
No regrets. Get this phone!
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just curious, are you using the 2gb or 4gb version?
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just curious, are you using the 2gb or 4gb version?
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I'm on the 4gb
I can only suggest you stay away from LG right now and possibly for the next few years... there is an active lawsuit that is going on because of bad soldering material that after 6-18 months time your phone is nearly guaranteed to bootloop.
The lawsuit includes: G3, G4, G5, V10, V10, Nexus 5 (and possibly more coming) ... but all of these phones after about a years usage are prone to bootlooping.
ok guys i own a p10, but i wanted to give one cellphone to my brothers for his birthday.
i got this two promotions:
One is for another p10 and the other one is for a LG G6
without considering the price, which of those two phones, should i take..
Hoping a sincere answer
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Wish you had mentioned p10 plus or p10 lite. But overall p10 is rated 5 while LG G6 is a 4.4
One main camera wasn't enough for LG or Huawei, as both companies have outfitted their flagship phones with dual-back-camera setups. But even with that similarity, they function pretty differently. p10 offers higher MP with the camera. I suggest P10
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Thanks for your answer, btw where can I see that rating for the phones ?
Depends.
I always loved clean Android and modding my device, flashing custom ROMs.
My last device was a Huawei. It was a good phone but I hated it for not having a Snapdragon processor. There was basically no development community and EMUI literally annoyed me after some month. I just love CM based ROMs too much for having a phone that I cannot modify properly.
But hey, that is like a pretty subjective thing and I don't know how development looks like on the P10. Hardware-wise, both device are a good choice for the price.
After own huawei p10 plus (6gb-128) , now i own the lg g6... I can tell you that i like most the lg
The camera in low light is worst than the huawei's ,but in day light its just amazing
Plus , you dont miss that 2 gb extra of ram neither a newer SoC
Snapdragon 821 is realy fast and i think that the gpu adreno is better than the huawei's mali
Maybe slow in charging the games but better game experience , in pes18 Huawei had too much lag , that doesnt happend with lg
Plus , it has ip68 (water resistant) and some military certification, better screen
Talking about battery life , i never had 6h with screen on time , i reach that with lg
After the lg g2, lg has had problems with its phones and has not had huge success and due to various restrictions lg is not the best phone, if you can look at other android phones based on his needs.
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After the lg g2, lg has had problems with its phones and has not had huge success and due to various restrictions lg is not the best phone, if you can look at other android phones based on his needs.
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Thanks for your answer sir,
What do you think about Huawei?
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ok guys i own a p10, but i wanted to give one cellphone to my brothers for his birthday.
i got this two promotions:
One is for another p10 and the other one is for a LG G6
without considering the price, which of those two phones, should i take..
Hoping a sincere answer
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LG G6. Huawei has customer support issues.
I had a Nexus 6P and sold it for the LG G6 (Unlocked US997).
It is one of the best Android phones I've owned.
Based on needs and every android phone experience being mostly same I would go with the new Google pixel 2 not the XL, g6 has old soc and laggy at times for me. Pixel 2 has newest soc and gets updates the first of all androids and u get pure unmodified android experience.
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I would go with the new Google pixel 2
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Dude. The Pixel 2 is way more expensive than the G6. You can buy two LGs for the price of one Pixel. I don't think the benefits of the Pixel justify this price. I would not support Google in they price policy since they seem to become the new Apple. Also, the design of the Pixel 2 is horrible. Screen bezels are huge...
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Based on needs and every android phone experience being mostly same I would go with the new Google pixel 2 not the XL, g6 has old soc and laggy at times for me. Pixel 2 has newest soc and gets updates the first of all androids and u get pure unmodified android experience.
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SD821 old?
It may be older, but it's a custom design with only about a 15% difference in performance between it and the 835.
Also the LG G6 is better thermally than about half the 835 based phones because it uses a heatpipe for cooling.
Back to back benchmarks don't see the throttling of the 835 based phones.
Also the design of the LG is much better than the Pixel 2. YMMV.
beginning from g3 all lg phones had malfunctions with reboots due to loose memory modules and screen retention in v20 and g4 reboot issues well known and they haven't publicly made any comments on how they fixed those issues and g6 is not safe from those problems either if owned for a couple of years ( if lg made public comments about how they fixed them I would trust them), and compared to Google phone in which u can simply unlock bootloader with command and modify it the way u like and lg makes a big deal of that by not allowing ( this is for people who know what they are doing), I have nothing against lg and I am currently using g6 for 5 months and not impressed with it that much. finally buying phones comes down to ones needs and with technology advancing rapidly one might not own the phone for long and it wont make much difference either to me.
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beginning from g3 all lg phones had malfunctions with reboots due to loose memory modules and screen retention in v20 and g4 reboot issues well known and they haven't publicly made any comments on how they fixed those issues and g6 is not safe from those problems either if owned for a couple of years ( if lg made public comments about how they fixed them I would trust them), and compared to Google phone in which u can simply unlock bootloader with command and modify it the way u like and lg makes a big deal of that by not allowing ( this is for people who know what they are doing), I have nothing against lg and I am currently using g6 for 5 months and not impressed with it that much. finally buying phones comes down to ones needs and with technology advancing rapidly one might not own the phone for long and it wont make much difference either to me.
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With the G6 they certified them for mil spec.
From the LG site:
"Passed 14 different MIL-STD 810G Tests for durability conducted by an independent laboratory in U.S. that conforms to U.S. military standards. Device may not perform as tested in all conditions. Test performed in controlled environment. Do not attempt."
As far as the boot loader. At least they have some way to unlock non-carrier devices.
Some manufacturers don't allow it at all.
Anyhow this discussion seems to be going off track OP wanted a phone between a G6 and P10 it looks like, for an average user either phone should be good.