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Anyone else having this problem? I don't remember having this happen on my MT3G.
It's really eating up the battery.
I am on JI2, and I never experienced this until last night after using Odin.
you have to change the wifi sleep policy in the wifi settings. Got to settings, wireless networks, wifi, then press the menu button and select advanced.
OMG! thanks, you're a real life saver.
Sorry to bring up an old thread. I have it set to never sleep but it still does. Any ideas? Seems when the display times out, it switches off wifi.
I have wifi on all the time at home and it's set to never sleep. Sometimes I see both the wifi and 3G icons. I know my wifi signal is strong, so no idea why the phone sometimes also seems to need a 3G data connection. One example is when I test GPS at home the 3G icon will pop up briefly. Another is following a reboot. But I see other times as well, and sometimes it stays for quite a while, but eventually goes away. I wonder if perhaps some ports get blocked by my router and the phone uses 3G communication to get around it. Bit of a mystery, but I don't see any other negative symptoms.
Here is something I have experienced. This is regardless of what ROM I am on.. Stock, Bionix, whatever...
I have wifi turned on at work. Sometimes I would see wifi and 3g on at the same time.
Now today, while texting, I noticed that my Wifi connection dropped to nothing, and at that point my 3g kicked in, which I expect it to. But when my Wifi reception kicks back up again, my 3g didnt turn off. I turned off Wifi and turned it on again, and my 3g turned off.
Anyone else getting the same experience?
samnada/ELStiko, That's what I'm really seeing too as I thought my wifi was just going to sleep.
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samnada/ELStiko, That's what I'm really seeing too as I thought my wifi was just going to sleep.
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I'm pretty sure my wifi isn't going to sleep. The wifi icon is on all the time with at least 3 bars. My cell signal is definitely weaker in my location. So, if it's seeking the strongest signal my wifi will always win.
Besides the possibility that my router is blocking some ports the phone wants to use, there's also a possible security issue. I know at one point the TMO My Account app would force a switch to cell communication versus wifi and I believe it was due to security concerns. Maybe some apps do the same thing.
I just did a GPS test, got a lock, stopped the test, closed the app, and the 3G icon stayed up for a couple of minutes then went away. Just one example.
Does seem odd, but I've just assumed there's some rational explanation. Could also be a bug...
your lucky you wake up and you have 3g. i wake up my phone is always on edge. lol
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hey everyone
so my G2, which I absolutely love, has been having a problem lately. in the first week it happened maybe once and i didn't think much of it, but since Friday it's happened like 8 times now. I'll be sitting there with my G2 and all the sudden I have no service whatsoever. Just an x on the signal strength indicator. 1 or 2 times it has come back after a minute or two, but the other times I had to turn the phone off and back on. the weird part is I'm not moving at all, totally sitting still, but when it comes back on I have FULL bars with HSPA+. so it's not like I walked into an area that didn't get good reception.
any idea what's going on? i looked around but didn't see other people having this issue. any ideas?
thanks
alright well at least i'm not alone. i remember that rumored OTA update was supposed to have some radio bugfixes. maybe when the real OTA update comes it will have something to fix this. i hope so.
I have been trying to diagnose this issue on my phone too.
By any chance, do either of you have your BT on at the time?
Happens to mine as described and I have never turned on bluetooth. However this would also happen to my G1 so I think its a network thing personally.
Yeah, it definitely is. I have 2 areas that it happens in, both are while I am in my car and I have BT on in my car. When I ran it without BT, did not happen.
I have found that when I am in those area's, turning off 3G stops it entirely, even with BT on, so when in my car, I set edge and still use my BT and problem is gone.
I hope this is temporary and an OTA can fix the handoff from 3G to Edge and back better so that I can stop this, but this works well enough.
Mine has done that also, maybe once a week for the past 3 weeks.
Judging by the other problems you can have Id say this one isnt that bad. Especially if it only happens once a week haha. This is the only problem I have with my phone.
no bluetooth...
no no bluetooth on, i never do actually... but also my G1 never did this, which makes me think it's NOT a network thing, but I don't know.
also I'm sure this is just coincidence but it almost always happens when my girlfriend is nearby with her T-Mobile Blackberry Curve. i know it wouldn't make any sense, but she's sitting there on the same network with full service and all the sudden my G2 loses service completely, right next to her... although it's not always while she's there, but like the majority of the times she's been there.
I just started another post to check on something, I have widgets that show me when I am connected to 3G and when I am connected to H. I have noticed that the phone is activity managing that connection. In other word, it is in 3G until data is transfered then it goes to H. I wonder if when we are in areas of "questionable" HSDPA signal if this hand off is causing the problems.
I have seen a lot of op's say that there problems come right after some data activity?
Just a guess a this point
i saw someone mention in another post that it happens after/during a text message alot of times. i haven't noticed that myself, but that's something to think about too.
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I just started another post to check on something, I have widgets that show me when I am connected to 3G and when I am connected to H. I have noticed that the phone is activity managing that connection. In other word, it is in 3G until data is transfered then it goes to H. I wonder if when we are in areas of "questionable" HSDPA signal if this hand off is causing the problems.
I have seen a lot of op's say that there problems come right after some data activity?
Just a guess a this point
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What I've heard is that the phone will stay in 3G mode until you begin using data in order to save battery life. Makes sense to me.
Have you guys ever noticed your phone slowing down as it constantly switches between 3G and 4G? Living in Austin, I probably make the switch a few hundred times a day, depending on what building I'm in, and where my phone is sitting.
There are plenty of times where I pull my phone out of my pocket, and it's very warm, and running horrendously slow. I typically notice the 4G icon, so I disable it altogether. Usually within about 30-60 seconds, my Evo is responsive once again. I have used every stock ROM, and about 6 custom as well. All behave IDENTICALLY.
I really have had only one instance where 4G was useful, and that's when I was at a restuarant, and I wanted to tether my laptop. I was able to get a solid 4G signal, and it seemed to work great. I did find out, however, they had free WIFI, like almost every business does these days.
Not so sure I'm really sold on the 4G stuff, even though almost everywhere I go in Central Texas has good signal. It seems to waste far too much CPU as it switches back and forth, enabling/disabling radios, or whatever. If I'm in Dolphin browser, and it switches radios, the phone appears to lock up sometimes... quite annoying... happens all the time.
Anyone else with similar issues? I know most people aren't even in 4G areas though.
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Have you guys ever noticed your phone slowing down as it constantly switches between 3G and 4G? Living in Austin, I probably make the switch a few hundred times a day, depending on what building I'm in, and where my phone is sitting.
There are plenty of times where I pull my phone out of my pocket, and it's very warm, and running horrendously slow. I typically notice the 4G icon, so I disable it altogether. Usually within about 30-60 seconds, my Evo is responsive once again. I have used every stock ROM, and about 6 custom as well. All behave IDENTICALLY.
I really have had only one instance where 4G was useful, and that's when I was at a restuarant, and I wanted to tether my laptop. I was able to get a solid 4G signal, and it seemed to work great. I did find out, however, they had free WIFI, like almost every business does these days.
Not so sure I'm really sold on the 4G stuff, even though almost everywhere I go in Central Texas has good signal. It seems to waste far too much CPU as it switches back and forth, enabling/disabling radios, or whatever. If I'm in Dolphin browser, and it switches radios, the phone appears to lock up sometimes... quite annoying... happens all the time.
Anyone else with similar issues? I know most people aren't even in 4G areas though.
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Well in general I noticed this cpu spike on my sense roms even when it was turning 3g back on after leaving a wifi spot. I really blame HTC's inneficient code, since CM6 handles this so much better. I did try 4G out in my area and thought it was better on my cpu than 3g was though.
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Have you guys ever noticed your phone slowing down as it constantly switches between 3G and 4G? Living in Austin, I probably make the switch a few hundred times a day, depending on what building I'm in, and where my phone is sitting.
There are plenty of times where I pull my phone out of my pocket, and it's very warm, and running horrendously slow. I typically notice the 4G icon, so I disable it altogether. Usually within about 30-60 seconds, my Evo is responsive once again. I have used every stock ROM, and about 6 custom as well. All behave IDENTICALLY.
I really have had only one instance where 4G was useful, and that's when I was at a restuarant, and I wanted to tether my laptop. I was able to get a solid 4G signal, and it seemed to work great. I did find out, however, they had free WIFI, like almost every business does these days.
Not so sure I'm really sold on the 4G stuff, even though almost everywhere I go in Central Texas has good signal. It seems to waste far too much CPU as it switches back and forth, enabling/disabling radios, or whatever. If I'm in Dolphin browser, and it switches radios, the phone appears to lock up sometimes... quite annoying... happens all the time.
Anyone else with similar issues? I know most people aren't even in 4G areas though.
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After you use 4g, you need to reboot your phone. The 4g icon may go away but the phone is going to keep searching for the 4g signal. Known issue/bug. You can ssearch the forums and find lots more info on it. Free app called alogcat will show you this by conintuing to try and connect to winmax.
I live in Austin, too and use the 4g toggle quite a bit, especially closer to town, while at concerts or football games.
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After you use 4g, you need to reboot your phone. The 4g icon may go away but the phone is going to keep searching for the 4g signal. Known issue/bug. You can ssearch the forums and find lots more info on it. Free app called alogcat will show you this by conintuing to try and connect to winmax.
I live in Austin, too and use the 4g toggle quite a bit, especially closer to town, while at concerts or football games.
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That explains why when I leave 4G on regularly, I have to reboot my phone at least once a day from slowdowns... If I leave 4G off, I tend to last almost a week before I get frustrated enough to reboot.
Really disappoints me, and I was hoping I was an isolated example. I had done several searches for this, and didn't see any results. I guess because not many people have 4G, and those that do probably toggle it on specifically for use when they are in a 4G area. Seems to me that 4G is only useful when you are sitting still... if I am in the car and I leave it on, my phone get sluggish as hell, and my battery can be dead in under an hour.
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That explains why when I leave 4G on regularly, I have to reboot my phone at least once a day from slowdowns... If I leave 4G off, I tend to last almost a week before I get frustrated enough to reboot.
Really disappoints me, and I was hoping I was an isolated example. I had done several searches for this, and didn't see any results. I guess because not many people have 4G, and those that do probably toggle it on specifically for use when they are in a 4G area. Seems to me that 4G is only useful when you are sitting still... if I am in the car and I leave it on, my phone get sluggish as hell, and my battery can be dead in under an hour.
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I believe the bug only occurs if you have a 4G widget on one of your home screens. You may be able to remove it and turn on via settings as a workaround.
Correct. Don't use the widget to toggle 4g. Go into settings and turn it on that way and you wont get the lag.
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I believe the bug only occurs if you have a 4G widget on one of your home screens. You may be able to remove it and turn on via settings as a workaround.
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I had a ROM a few weeks ago that didn't even have a 4G toggle... I think it was AOSP. Didn't like it much and came back to Sense-based. No effect on the CPU bogging.
I live in houston and not in the city, I get this every day....i stopped using 4g a while ago...it'll get better with time though
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Only turn on 4G when you are actually going to use it than turn it off. Most web tasks do not require 4G and it will improve battery life.
theres a couple guides out there for editing your 4g in and out times, signal requirements log in delays, ect. those will help big time, and you should be resetting your phone once a day anyway for good usage, also it helps to if your using 4g, turn off the mobile network because its pointless to run both radios at the same time [helpful if you have myns with the data in the notifications menu for easy chaning]
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theres a couple guides out there for editing your 4g in and out times, signal requirements log in delays, ect. those will help big time, and you should be resetting your phone once a day anyway for good usage, also it helps to if your using 4g, turn off the mobile network because its pointless to run both radios at the same time [helpful if you have myns with the data in the notifications menu for easy chaning]
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Can you confirm that turning off the mobile network from the power-button drop-down menu actually does anything? On my phone, when It detects 4G or WIFI, the 3G icon disappears for a bit, then turns into the new one. That leads me to believe that it automatically does that for us...
I use 4G every day. I have "mobile data always on" set to on demand, so when I turn on 4G via the Extended Controls widget I use, 3G automatically turns off. Haven't had any phone slow down since I started using this method. When I turn 4G off, 3G automatically restarts, so one or the other is always on. I keep 4G always on at home, and only turn it on while out if I'm watching using large amounts of data.
At some point I made some changes in how long my phone will try to stick with 4G when there's a strong 3G signal, and that helped with streaming music/data while on long drives.
The only time you should see CPU usage is when the radios are toggling on, and off. Also when you turn 4G off, yes if you look in logcat you see that WiMAX is doing something but that's about it. IIRC it is checking the status of the 4G radio to see if it is on. The radio is off though, verified by monitoring the current drain in almost real time. The 4G radio draws about 200-300mA itself. The "4G Toggle for EVO" app by Jason Calhoun (see Market) so far has given me the least amount of hassle of the 4G widgets out there, and most of the time I don't have to worry about turning off 4G after a reboot.
On average with my current configuration I draw about 254mA (3G /display @26%/doing nothing), 188mA on WiFi. The lowest I've seen was 89mA (just coming out of sleep), and the highest I was ever to draw was 996mA (everything on, turned up, playing Angry Birds).
Under 4G settings make sure network notification is unchecked, if not the phone is forever scanning for a signal, especially if you're toggling bad. If you have it unchecked even when you use the widget it will only search the initial time when you turn on the widget. Can't say this will solve the issue, but at least stop the phone from continuously scanning for a signal should help. You can only uncheck network notification while 4G is checked. Hope it helps cause i'm in the centex area also(Waco). It helped for me when told to me by EVO owners.
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I've also noticed my Evo seems really sluggish when 4G is on. Like, to the point that I always leave it off, because it makes my phone barely usable sometimes when it is on, even when I am standing right next to the 4G tower. I read through here and I'm going to try removing the HTC widget for 4G from my home screen, maybe that'll help.
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The only time you should see CPU usage is when the radios are toggling on, and off. Also when you turn 4G off, yes if you look in logcat you see that WiMAX is doing something but that's about it. IIRC it is checking the status of the 4G radio to see if it is on. The radio is off though, verified by monitoring the current drain in almost real time. The 4G radio draws about 200-300mA itself. The "4G Toggle for EVO" app by Jason Calhoun (see Market) so far has given me the least amount of hassle of the 4G widgets out there, and most of the time I don't have to worry about turning off 4G after a reboot.
On average with my current configuration I draw about 254mA (3G /display @26%/doing nothing), 188mA on WiFi. The lowest I've seen was 89mA (just coming out of sleep), and the highest I was ever to draw was 996mA (everything on, turned up, playing Angry Birds).
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But until/unless you reboot the phone, the WiMax continues to check the status of the 4g radio. So that would make the phone sluggish. Even with no toggle on a home screen or any screen, just doing it manually, when turned off it keeps scanning. Right Thats what alogcat shows until the phone is rebooted.
I have turned off 4g and gone about my business and been fine - went almost 30 hours on one charge and had 4g on for about 2 hours of that, so it may not be a major battery drain amp wise, but it appears to continue to scan even when turned off.
From a 2-day trial I can definitely say that my phone seems much more responsive since I removed the 4G widget. I replaced all the HTC radio widgets with the stock android one (which, of course, doesn't have 4G) and my phone seems very responsive. At the same time, I turned on 4G via the settings menu and I've left it on. It seems to be working well.
Ever since I got a replacement phone Ive had this issue- while on the Sprint network my signal will randomly go from full to nothing at all. Yet when I use roam control to go into roaming, the signal always stays at full strength
The other thing I noticed is that when I dial into the 3282 menu, someone elses username is there instead of mine. When I run connectbot and use getprop, no MSL # is there either
Anyone know whats going on with the phone and if this can be fixed?
getprop ril.MSL
It is filtered from just getprop.
My signal has always done that.
Updated profile may fix the user name?
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Thanks that command did the trick to get the msl- I was able to go in and manually change the username now.
Is there any settings in the data menu to improve the signal? Its almost like its jumping back and forth between a good and bad tower?
Not that I know of. That is what I suspect is the case with me as I have about 3 towers that are surrounding me from various sides and I think it is hopping between them... not sure there is anything to do for it but I haven't really seen any ill effects from it.
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The weird thing is it never used to do this before when I first got the phone. When I was in the same areas the signal bar was always full and would never drop. I wonder if its a tower issue or something they changed with an update.
Sometimes when people call me they say it goes straight to voicemail though which worries me
Could be the modem. Some people think el30 is not as good as ei22 or ec05. Maybe try some others.
For calls calls going to vm, that can happen if you are using data in a 1x area. Also can happen if you have accidentally switched on ddtm in call settings.
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This is going to be plain and a tad bit retarded but a solution is WiFi, as far 3G and 4G mine has always done this but i can testify that in my house i used to get ****ty service like 0 to 1 bar when i was on EC05 i switched EL30 now to FB15 and say much more improvement more consistent to 3-4 bars.
PRL updates could help if you roam around there. newest as of today is 60685
I've been having this problem too for about two months now. But as you said roaming works fine so I just assume it's a sprint tower issue and force roam whenever I'm on wifi.
I have had this issue for a year or so... started a while after I first rooted.
You can hold my epic in one hand, my wife's epic in the other... her bars stay steady, maybe fluctuate between 2 or 3 bars occasionally... mine randomly and erratically jump from 2 or 3 to nothing, stay there for 30 seconds or so... and jump back up.
While its annoying and distracting, I've never had a problem with dropping calls or losing data. I even took the phone apart to make sure the antenna had not come loose. Problem persisted over several roms and several modem Odin flashes, just won't go away!
Mine does the same, it'll have full bars, drop down to nothing, but my 3g/4g still work fine (off wifi)... i just ignore the signal bars because most of the time my data still works, albeit a tad slow.
I need help this is driving me insane!
I've been running Dynamic Kat Rom for about 6 months or so now. Everything was working fine then all of a sudden a week or two ago I noticed my mobile data is not enabling at all.
I can only connect on Wifi and only receive SMS.
I've tried
- Messing will all the data/network settings
- Turning Mobile Data on and off -- no effect
- Toggling Airplane Mode on and off as suggested in some places
- Wiping everything but Data and reflashing latest ROM
- Reseating the SIM card
- several other things I forgot..
I do see the carrier information in the top left (AT&T) and I am getting signal bars.. but not indicator for 4G/LTE/etc
I've been messing with this for a week now and it's driving me insane.. I can't get a connection anywhere unless I'm on Wifi.
Anyone have any suggestions? I'm not super phone savvy, but willing to try any suggestions anyone may have.
Hmmm.. weird.
So I called AT&T and asked them about it.. figuring it could possibly be a carrier issue.
They told me to try things I had already done 100 times.. turn the phone off and on.. turn wifi off... etc.
I turned Wifi off... (which I had done 50,000 times before) and 4G popped up.
I guess they did something. So.. guess it's resolved.
Problem has returned.. same issue. I will have 4G signal for hours and then all of a sudden it will drop completely and I can't get a data signal no matter what I do.
I see AT&T in the corner and have signal bars, so I AM getting some kind of signal.. but no data connection whatsoever.
It seems completely random and intermittent.. I can have data signal for days with no issues then I will lose it for days.
Restarting the phone 5-20 times sometimes fixes it.. but that's about it. Anyone have any ideas what could be causing this?
Bad signal / carrier issue?
Call them and report a fault in your area?
I have called them multiple times, they will reset the signal.. sometimes it will come back right away, sometimes it wont.
And this happens regardless of where I am. I know for a fact where I am right now has a great signal strength. I get 4-5 bars on average. But this also happens at home as well about 20 miles away, which also has a good signal, or anywhere I go really it can happen. This isn't in the middle of nowhere either, it's smack in the middle of SoCal (LA/OC)
I'm beginning to think it may be a SIM card issue or a hardware issue with the phone. I'm going to try asking them to send me a new SIM card.
Another thing I will notice is when I have a working 4G LTE connection, and I'm on Wifi... it will sometimes CONSTANTLY switch back and forth between wifi and 4G like every 10 seconds, even when I have full signal strength on Wifi and 4G.
Disable Smart Network Switching in WiFi settings
it's nothing but a buggy headache, disabling might fix most of your problems, almost certainly the constant switching back and forth
Yeah forgot to mention I have disabled that. It's disabled now. It solves the constant switching back and forth (when I actually have a data connection), but that's kind of a separate issue as the losing data connection.