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Hey ppl, had my HD for about 2 weeks now and im loving it, soo much better than my N95 8gb, however I do miss the camera..! Anyway back to subject, today i went down my garage to work on my car (dont worry the phone was put well away from where i was working, have got it in the silicone case and its been very well looked after!!!), the battery was on 1/3 and in the space of 2 hours the phone was dead (not sure when in those 2 hours it died!) so plugged it in, let it charge a little then turned it on, now im having massive problems with the phone not connecting to the network???
I live in a city and as such never ever have problems with coverage, its always at max, however the phone will connect to the network with full signal strength, then within 5-10 seconds the signal strength goes down and down, then i lose connection all together for a few mins then it will reconnect at full strength again????
I've not really installed any apps recently, the only thing i've installed which i can think may have contributed toward something was HDtweak but it was all working fine yesterday...
Reallllly confused and frustrated, hoping its not a hardware issue already
Andy

right ive gone through all the settings, even hard reset the phone, still doing the same so it's got to be the phone itself... whoopdedoo

Did you ever sort this out? it seems I have the same issue, when the phone goes to 'sleep' it disconnects itself from the network, I wake it up and within a minute or two it reconnects back at full strength....meanwhile im missing calls....

"no service" bug still in Froyo?

A number of people have experienced a long-standing Android bug on their Nexus One, that when you spend an extended period of time in an area with no signal, the phone never reconnects until a reboot. Even attempting to shut down cleanly or to go into and out of airplane mode results in Android crashing after a minute or so and rebooting that way.
It's hard to draw conclusions from my experience because the occurrence rate was so random (sometimes a couple of times in a single day, sometimes ten days between occurrences), but I installed Froyo Saturday evening and haven't experienced the "no service" bug since then. That's getting close to the MTBF for me over the last few months. The official ticket is still listed in "new" status (after almost a year!), but it's possible that some change in Froyo fixed it without the developer being aware of that particular ticket.
Has anyone who was experiencing the "no service" bug in 2.1 had it happen again since upgrading to Froyo? Now that I can do hands-free bluetooth dialing, that's the biggest remaining blemish on my Nexus One experience, so I'd be thrilled if the bug were, in fact, gone.

Just a little FYI, that is actually a common "bug" independent of Android. I sell cell phones for a living, and many phones, from BB's to WM, Nokia to Samsung, and everything in between has this "bug". Not all do, but I would say 90% of phones have this bug where if you leave coverage for an extended period, it doesn't re-connect when you move back in, and need to reboot. It is because phones are set up to stop searching for a network after X ammount of time without coverage, to prevent the battery drain of constantly searching. When you do go back into coverage, there are two ways to re-register... either reboot, or most phones have an option to manual search and register with a network. I know with my Nexus One this has only happened to me once, at my Dad's (his house is a deadzone for everyone), and all I did was do the manual search and was back up and running, didn't have to reboot.

The Nexus One version of this bug is unusually annoying, though: a manual search for networks turns up nothing (normally I have good signal strength whenever I step outside my house from both T-Mobile and AT&T, but neither shows up after the bug hits), and having the phone crash and spontaneously reboot if you enable airplane mode when the phone is in this state is pretty severe.

wmm said:
The Nexus One version of this bug is unusually annoying, though: a manual search for networks turns up nothing (normally I have good signal strength whenever I step outside my house from both T-Mobile and AT&T, but neither shows up after the bug hits), and having the phone crash and spontaneously reboot if you enable airplane mode when the phone is in this state is pretty severe.
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That is pretty severe, in that it reboots... but the "bug" of not getting signal back has nothing to do with strength or the N1 is all I am saying. I have at least 2 people a day come into my store with this issue, on all different handsets. Some can get it back just by manually searching (this is different from switching between airplane and back), others have to reboot.

I spent a few 1/2hr chunks today with my FRF50 Froyo'd N1 in a spot in the office that was guaranteed to cause this bug to show up. And every single time it's reacquired the network when I left. Take that with a grain of salt since the bug has been intermittent for me.
Now if only the headset and AVRCP music controls hadn't broken this would be phone heaven.

Yeah, I think it's improved for me with 2.2 as well. One thing that's handy though is an Airplane Mode widget, as cycling the antenna with that usually worked for me before Froyo.

this "bug" drove me crazy! It would tend to happen to me at least once a day. I am scared to say this, but it hasn't happened one single time since updating to "unofficial froyo"

Well, good news all around! I'm not quite ready to declare the bug dead, because I've been disappointed a number of times after tweaking something and having the bug lurk quietly for a number of days, only to pop up again after I had decided it was gone, but it's certainly looking encouraging. Thanks for all the responses. Keep us updated.

I've had the same bug issues, and usually at home when it happens. This radio seems determined to reacquire no matter what.
As for the AVRCP comment, my N1 a la FroYo is working great with my BT3030 stereo Bluetooth receiver. I use the controls all the time.

My Omnia 7 keeps loosing it's 3G connection

My Omnia 7 keeps loosing it's 3G connection. To restore it I have to restart the phone. T-Mobile say that this happens from time to time, but it's happening every day now. It's annoying as it stops my push email from being up to date, and of course prevents the use of any internet based services until the phone is restarted.
Has anyone else noticed their phone has switching to GSM?

Had mine for 6 days.Been fine up until today,then I had the same problem.Only the once so far.

Confirm loosing 3G
Confirm loosing 3G connection, and also have phone call failures.
Factory reset did not solve the problem.
Bring it back to shop
Blackstone is back now!

At first this was occasional with my phone, then more frequent, and it's all the time. If I want to use the Internet I have to restart the phone. My house is covered by full HSPA, but the only way to get it is to take the battery out while the phone is switched on. I can sometimes get 3G by a simple restart, which I lasts about 40 minutes.
I like the phone, so I'm going to hold out for a software update. All it needs to do is check available networks and I think that, if this is a wide spread issue, Samsung/Microsoft will fix it. Hope so.
Please post here if you have this issue too.

I have also been having this issue... sometimes it doesnt come back straight away when i restart it but after about 10mins its back.
When I activated it with orange I was told to expect a few txt msg's that would need deleting and the phone restarting... I only got 1 msg, maybe this has something to do with it, maybe the phone hasnt been sent enough updates.

I also have this issue and have done for weeks. Orange couldn't solve it either.
It only happens overnight at home. I either need to reset the phone / rescan available networks or turn flight mode off and on again for the connection to restore.
I was thinking it may be an issue with t-mobile since it only happens at my home where orange signal is poor and i roam over to t-mobile.
If i stay in an area with good Orange signal i don't get the problem.
Good to know i'm not the only one with this problem. It's very annoying!

Hi y'all.
I had the same problem: 3G was lost every time. I was fed up restarting the phone every time, so I looked for another way to get 3G back. I found out that disabling and enabling SIM security (phone > setttings) got me 3G again... for a short while.
But: after disabling SIM security permanently, 3G kept on going (in fact for over a week now).
I think that changing the PIN to some other number, might cause this. I haven't yet tried changing it to the default PIN again, to see if using that for SIM security solves it. For the moment I'm too happy it works again.

I have suffered from poor reception issues ever since I got my Omnia 7.
It seems like the reception comes and goes. I will receive e-mails, which proves that the phone has been connected, but as soon as I try to use data myself, by visiting a web page or refreshing an app like facebook, the reception disappears and the "no reception" symbol drops down from the status bar.
Also, often when I try to send an SMS, it will appear to have been sent, yet 10 minutes later I will receive a "Can't send...try again" message. Once I have received this, the SMS will never successfully send. However, in the meantime I can receive SMS messages, which shows that the phone has been getting a signal.
This is SO frustrating and is ruining my experience with the phone.
I have posted requests on the Microsoft Answers forum and the only suggestions have been to reset the phone or turn WiFi off. Neither of these have had any effect. I have never enabled SIM lock.
I have heard that there is a firmware update due soon which includes a new radio stack. I am desperately hoping that this will improve the situation, as at the moment I cannot rely on my Omnia 7 as my only phone.
Alex.

Hi Loco,
You are right in saying that social answers doesn't really help much .
Luckily there IS a new firmware from a couple of days ago! Check out the Omnia 7 Dev section. There are only a few posts.
And here is also a good link for you. You are right to assume that it comes with a new radio stack which improves on performance.
http://wmpoweruser.com/new-samsung-omnia-7-firmware-and-news-of-a-keyboarded-omnia-8-leaks/

Finally found a thread on this... I have been having a similar problem since I got my phone from Optus here in Australia. I took it back and they replaced it for me but the new phone is exactly the same. I don't lose the 3G icon but anything data related just ceases from loading. Right now I'm trying to refresh the Facebook app and it just comes up with 'Unable to connect', even though I have full 3G reception.
I flashed it to the newer leaked firmware and it hasn't changed anything, problem still persists unfortunately. This is a major problem that isn't getting enough attention! It seems quite widespread and Omnia 7 specific.

Had similar problems, but after I changed my provider ( O2-Germany), 3G is stable.

For the people having this problem, have you tried setting the phone to prefer 3g? Details of how to do this are here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915813

johnnymatrix said:
Finally found a thread on this... I have been having a similar problem since I got my phone from Optus here in Australia. I took it back and they replaced it for me but the new phone is exactly the same. I don't lose the 3G icon but anything data related just ceases from loading. Right now I'm trying to refresh the Facebook app and it just comes up with 'Unable to connect', even though I have full 3G reception.
I flashed it to the newer leaked firmware and it hasn't changed anything, problem still persists unfortunately. This is a major problem that isn't getting enough attention! It seems quite widespread and Omnia 7 specific.
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Same here man. On Optus and my reception sucks with this device. What the hell is samsung doing? FIX IT!

I have been having this problem with my Omnia 7. The frustrating thing is this is a replacement phone I had for an LG which I had replaced THREE TIMES due to random resets. So now I have a phone that I have to turn off and on EVERY MORNING in order for the data connection to start working again. Needless to say I am very frustrated. I am on Orange in the UK. I suspect it could be related to when being an a poor reception area and it tries to switch to tmobile. I am going to try turning roaming off. Please, if anyone finds a solution to this let me know.
Thanks

m4tthall said:
I have been having this problem with my Omnia 7. The frustrating thing is this is a replacement phone I had for an LG which I had replaced THREE TIMES due to random resets. So now I have a phone that I have to turn off and on EVERY MORNING in order for the data connection to start working again. Needless to say I am very frustrated. I am on Orange in the UK. I suspect it could be related to when being an a poor reception area and it tries to switch to tmobile. I am going to try turning roaming off. Please, if anyone finds a solution to this let me know.
Thanks
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My problem got worse with the Mango update. I'm now on my 2nd handset after having a replacement from Orange warranty. This one still loses it's connection but much less frequently.
TBH i don't think it will ever get fixed. I started an MS Answers thread months ago and lots of people had the same problem but we never got a response from MS.
Conisdering the age of the model now I doubt Samsung care, well they didn't seem to care a year ago so they won't now... For this reason I will not buy another Samsung phone. It's infuriating.

Looks like I am stuck with it until December then when I can upgrade to a Nokia lumia. A long wait :-(

i have this issue, too.. but for me i only have to set airplane mode on and off. sometimes i deactivate data connection, go to a random website, get the 'no connection' error, then activate data connection back and it works.
however, after installing the latest drivers & firmware, i get this issue A LOT less frequent. like once in 2-3 days.
i hope ms or samsung will fix this because it can get really annoying. especially when you need eg. a quick google-search..

Just flicking the flight mode wouldn't be so bad but that doesn't work for me, I have to restart the phone each time. I love WP7 but this and the other problems with the LG is driving me nuts. Almost wondering whether I should have just followed the crowd and gone for an iPhone.

m4tthall said:
Just flicking the flight mode wouldn't be so bad but that doesn't work for me, I have to restart the phone each time. I love WP7 but this and the other problems with the LG is driving me nuts. Almost wondering whether I should have just followed the crowd and gone for an iPhone.
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Same as me - Flicking flight mode on-off doesn't solve it, needs a soft-reset.
Like I say, there are quite a few with Omnias on Orange with this problem.
I'm in the same boat, I've had this for months now so I guess I'll just deal with it until I can upgrade the start of April and get a Lumia (hopefully the EU 900/910 will be here by then!). There is no way on this earth Samsung are getting any more of my money. Nokia seem fully commited so they can take my cash next time!

I have the same problem with the data stopping working on o2 in the UK. But I also sometimes cant receive calls even though the phone has service, then there are the times where it site there going GPRS/3G/3G+/No Service and you cant do anything with it apart from pull the battery.

Data dissappears during phone calls? Realization time

Has it always been like this? Flashed a few roms and radios. But I think I never really thought about it or noticed it until now and it's really bugging me. I've read a few topics about 3g and 4g being "parallel" to our voice calls so we can't have both? I don't quite understand any of it.
Can someone tell me it's just my phone so I can try to solve the problem, or reassure me that we can't have both at the same time so I can sleep better tonight? lol
Thanks for any and all help!
Edit: Sorry meant to post this in the question thread.

Balut20 said:
Has it always been like this? Flashed a few roms and radios. But I think I never really thought about it or noticed it until now and it's really bugging me. I've read a few topics about 3g and 4g being "parallel" to our voice calls so we can't have both? I don't quite understand any of it.
Can someone tell me it's just my phone so I can try to solve the problem, or reassure me that we can't have both at the same time so I can sleep better tonight? lol
Thanks for any and all help!
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ALL GSM phones that are connected to HSPA or greater should be able to talk and surf at the same time. I do it frequently personally. Do you know if you drop to EDGE/GRPS when you get on a phone call?

I am also having this issue but its strange that the guy posting above me does not face this issue - may be it is a hardware issue like screen and emmc since I already tried different roms and radios?. As soon as I am in a call I am disconnected from network data. I noticed only recently when I was in a hotel room working on my laptop (tethered phone to provide internet) and just when I joined a conference call, I lost internet. It was so embarrassing I couldnt curse tmobile and htc enough. The iphone ad about talking and surfing at the same time never made sense to me before this incidence.

my phone does this too, but its on and off. Sometimes it does, others it doesnt. I really have no idea what could cause it.

Let me shed some light on this....if you are on H will less then 2 bars and theres an E with 3 bars or more and u get a call the phone will switch to E but once you hang up then its back on H. But if H has 3 bars or more when a call is received then I will stay on the H network and allow talk and data at the same time. Theres no hard ware issues trust me. Hspa is preferred but if there is a stronger signal then the phone switches. I hope that makes sense. You can not do data and talk together on E but you can on H.
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Or, to put it in other words: when the phone is in a call, it'll hop to the "best sounding" base station, and if it would happen to be the old GSM/GPRS/EDGE base station - the data will drop. The missing bit is: once it drops - it isn't re-negotiated during the call, only after it. Thus, if the phone hops to EDGE base station even for a second during the call - you won't have data from this point and till the end of the call.
Perfectly normal behavior.

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Let me shed some light on this....if you are on H will less then 2 bars and theres an E with 3 bars or more and u get a call the phone will switch to E but once you hang up then its back on H. But if H has 3 bars or more when a call is received then I will stay on the H network and allow talk and data at the same time. Theres no hard ware issues trust me. Hspa is preferred but if there is a stronger signal then the phone switches. I hope that makes sense. You can not do data and talk together on E but you can on H.
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This is definitely not the case. I have tried multiple times with different signal strengths but it drops completely every time. I just did another test, I was on H at 3.47mbps with all full bars and as soon as i placed a call to my friend, the data dropped completely.

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This is definitely not the case. I have tried multiple times with different signal strengths but it drops completely every time. I just did another test, I was on H at 3.47mbps with all full bars and as soon as i placed a call to my friend, the data dropped completely.
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It's not about the bars you see, but the signal strength (and not only) your phone sees - which is way more complicated than just bars. Read my post above.
And it's not an opinion either, it's a fact. This is how cellular handoff/handover works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_handover

Thanks for the replies and insight everyone. Now I know a little bit more about how that handover works heh.
In my case, most calls were made from my office building. Yesterday, when I posted, I had the newest radio and data would drop immediately as soon as the person answers my call (not a steady drop from 4g-3g-Edge, icon just disappears completely). At best, I was able to download a few apps during a call (which was downloading before the call was made) but as soon my screen locked and turned off - the data was gone on wake and wouldn't turn back on until after the call was finished.
Went through 4 different ROMS yesterday with about the same results but I have recently reflashed RoyalGinger again along with the stock radio thereafter and it seems to be holding during calls, even on my ride to work this morning. I know this is against what most people have said in this thread but maybe I just messed something up on my phone with the new radio? Guess I'll stick to this radio for now. Thanks again everybody.

Radio is the one responsible for determining the best possible connection, and flashing new radio might change things.
I'm in a good 3G/H coverage zone, with new radio, and just tested - the data remained on during the call in any conditions, screen off, screen on, wifi toggling - still worked.

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Radio is the one responsible for determining the best possible connection, and flashing new radio might change things.
I'm in a good 3G/H coverage zone, with new radio, and just tested - the data remained on during the call in any conditions, screen off, screen on, wifi toggling - still worked.
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When I'm on 4g and turn the screen off the data turns off, normally after an extended period, which its good for battery.
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This has happened to me since I had my blackberry 9700. My experience has been that it loses all data (H/3G/E), even in good H/3G signal area and won't reconnect until I end the call. However the data loss only occurs while on a call. While not on a call, just surfing the net or using data any other way does not cause lost data connection nor a drop from H/3G to Edge. I saw somewhere on these forums that switching to H/3G only will prevent this from happening. I've tried this and it seemed to help, but I haven't been checking on every call.
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[Q] Nexus 4 Signal Strength... Antenna Firmware Radio Problem? anyone else?

I have Straight Talk AT&T, and so far my experience has been mixed. Sometimes I get full reception and generally awesome speeds (coming from Sprint's slow ass network), other times I get absolutely no service, sometimes it randomly jumps into roaming and i can't get data.. and it stays 'stuck' in roaming mode.. I have to turn airplane mode on/off to fix it.
This all happens without my leaving my desk.
Apparently it isn't limited to Straight Talk AT&T though http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2038963 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2037780
What's going on.. Am I part of a small group, or is this a larger issue..
OpenSignal Screenshots..
http://i.imgur.com/Zwohw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XxBBF.jpg
Notice the jump in bars between the two screenshots

same. hopefully they fix all these issues with a new radio. and also losing data while on a phone call!!!

Weird...on mine the bars go all the way down but when i do internet test i still get high connection. Also my internet works fine. Usually bars go down when i hold phone from top right.
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sometimes I lose all bars and am still talking on the phone. so strength meter is off and doesn't mean much at this point.

Mine goes all over the place with ST ATT just sitting it on a table

well hows att reception in your area in general? mines pretty steady as far as 1 bar give or take. but theres sometimes I will sit at zero bars all together and still have service. I wouldn't worry about it too much as long as your able to make and receive phone calls etc

daddioj said:
same. hopefully they fix all these issues with a new radio. and also losing data while on a phone call!!!
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So it's been determined that it's not a hardware problem?

well its still early to tell. the phone is still very new so they have plenty of time to tweak the radio and fix bugs. lets hope its not some kind of weak radio hardware issue.

I've been having these as well. Quite annoying, but the data connection still pulls data and works. I've requested an RMA device and should be here tomorrow. Going to test with that, if it's the same then I'd keep this one I already have. Sometimes even if I have full service 5 bars, data will not work. The H will still be on stop of the signal bars, but it won't download/update any data, if I'm using any apps, it'll just hang.

xdviper said:
I've been having these as well. Quite annoying, but the data connection still pulls data and works. I've requested an RMA device and should be here tomorrow. Going to test with that, if it's the same then I'd keep this one I already have. Sometimes even if I have full service 5 bars, data will not work. The H will still be on stop of the signal bars, but it won't download/update any data, if I'm using any apps, it'll just hang.
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What is the process for going about getting a replacement... and keep us posted on whether or not you see any changes..

let us know If the replacement is better. which I don't think so. but if your on original 4.2 with older baseband stay there. don't update and play with the data then. see if its good. then when satisfied update and see if the same problems arise then you know its software bugs

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let us know If the replacement is better. which I don't think so. but if your on original 4.2 with older baseband stay there. don't update and play with the data then. see if its good. then when satisfied update and see if the same problems arise then you know its software bugs
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Will do, I'll keep you guys updated.

xdviper said:
I've been having these as well. Quite annoying, but the data connection still pulls data and works. I've requested an RMA device and should be here tomorrow. Going to test with that, if it's the same then I'd keep this one I already have. Sometimes even if I have full service 5 bars, data will not work. The H will still be on stop of the signal bars, but it won't download/update any data, if I'm using any apps, it'll just hang.
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My N4 pretty much does the exact same thing. Actually, I'm on my replacement phone and it does the same thing as my first one.

which makes me believe its a software bug. or hardware fault. i'm having some faith in software lol :good:

I sure hope it's a software issue, because my connection really sucks. It drops out constantly, but never dropped out a single time on my Backflip during normal hours (only 2 times around midnight during server maintenance or something)

Do you think I should try T-Mobile and see if my issues are resolved..

I just discovered this phone info settings, via *#*#464 or whatever it was.. Is there a particular setting it should be on, not WCDMA Preferred?

I'm having the same problem: the signal strength is very erratic. I'm on Rogers in Canada, which is same frequencies as AT&T.
I've never seen such erratic signal strength before.
On the other hand, though I haven't had it very long and haven't put it through its paces, I haven't noticed any significant signal issues, like dropped calls. So, I don't want to jump to any conclusions that what I'm observing is actually a problem.
Does anyone know of an app that tests the quality of my data connection? I know everyone uses speedtest.net but that just tests burst speed and I'd like something that will test the consistency of my connection too.

same problem
I'm having the same difficulty. Signal can be at 3 bars then all of a sudden goes to 0 bars.
Has anyone determined if this is a software or hardware fault? Any solutions?
Thanks

Raul69.atl said:
Weird...on mine the bars go all the way down but when i do internet test i still get high connection. Also my internet works fine. Usually bars go down when i hold phone from top right.
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Same exact behavior I'm seeing. I hope this is a software issue.