Verizon SGS5 SM-G900V Versions that can downgrade to kitkat? - Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Trying to find a new SGS5 for purchase and need it to run kitkat but most come with lollipop. Does anyone know which builds/firmwares of lollipop that come pre-installed on new Verizon SGS5s can be downgraded to kitkat? List of firmwares linked below. I know OE1, OG5, OK3, and PB1 versions CANNOT be downgraded but what about OA8, OC4, and OD5 versions of lollipop? Thanks!
http://www.samdown.com/samsung/SM-G900V/

s00thsayer said:
Trying to find a new SGS5 for purchase and need it to run kitkat but most come with lollipop. Does anyone know which builds/firmwares of lollipop that come pre-installed on new Verizon SGS5s can be downgraded to kitkat? List of firmwares linked below. I know OE1, OG5, OK3, and PB1 versions CANNOT be downgraded but what about OA8, OC4, and OD5 versions of lollipop? Thanks!
http://www.samdown.com/samsung/SM-G900V/
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According to the thread below OA8 and OC4 can be downgraded but have not been able to find anything about OD5 yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...-to-downgrade-lollipop-5-0-to-kitkat-t3088571

Ok...for anyone else looking for this info it looks like OD5 can also be downgraded to kitkat but nothing later than that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66471500&postcount=6

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will method on the link work for lollipop?

reading here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784880
I cant understand well If I can use this methid for root lollipop
I mean, can I flash a kitkat kernel only on lollipop based firmware, do the rooting with TR and then upodate the kernel to one there was before?
Or I have to downgrade the while firmware to lets say 4.4.2 ?
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yurais
yurais said:
reading here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784880
I cant understand well If I can use this methid for root lollipop
I mean, can I flash a kitkat kernel only on lollipop based firmware, do the rooting with TR and then upodate the kernel to one there was before?
Or I have to downgrade the while firmware to lets say 4.4.2 ?
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yurais
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What firmware are you on?
OA8 maybe?
will tell you for sure later

[Q] Dirty flash 4.4.4 NJ5 to Lollipop?

My wife and I just purchased the AT&T US version Galaxy S4 I337 brand new in box with NJ5 4.4.4 firmware stock everything. No rooting nothing. Over the air updates brought in a 485 megabyte update three times. The first two failed, while the third attempt apparently succeeded.
I have checked updates twice since and it states "Current." In the "about phone" section it lists "Official" now.
I am EXTREMELY familiar with flashing custom and stock roms to my T-Mobile SGH-M919. I have downloaded the AT&T 5.0 Rom. Can I just dirty flash with Odin? Does the phone's locked bootloader prevent the Odin flash? Any tips or hints on this would be great.
I downgraded my T-mobile S4 to 4.4.2 from 4.4.4 with ease. With the AT&T be just as easy with the 4.4.4 to 5.0.1 with Lollipop?
cheers for any pointers or thoughts.
You probably purchased the phone with NJ4 firmware, and when you ran the OTA update, it upgraded you to NJ5. This is a security update which is believed to respond to the stagefright bug. Since the security update became available about a week ago, the OTA update from 4.4.4 to 5.0.1 has been replaced with the security update, so that those on 4.4.4 stay on 4.4.4, and those on 5.0.1 get the update from OC3 to OC4.
It is never good practice to dirty flash, and is impossible when changing base. Please read the various guides available in the general forum for guidance on how to proceed. Or if you are patient, maybe the OTA from 4.4.4 to 5.0.1 will be reactivated soon, and you can upgrade the phone that way.

How is the AT&T Galaxy S4 5.0.1 UCUGOC3 Lollipop Update?

I think this is the newest one that has been rolled out by AT&T?
I am currently rooted and running GoldenEye. Is there any reason to give this up and move to the carrier version now that its been rolled out?
lirong said:
I think this is the newest one that has been rolled out by AT&T?
I am currently rooted and running GoldenEye. Is there any reason to give this up and move to the carrier version now that its been rolled out?
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I do not think it is a newest one. After OC3 there was OC4 and then the latest is OK2 I think.
They all are OTA incremental updates. Not an odin flashable full firmware, unless some developers in here cooked the odin flashable firmware.
You need to be at least Kitkat NB1 stock to use this update I think.
If you are happy with goldeneye just stick to it.

Can you downgrade directly from marshmallow to kit Kat?

I'm on Phoenix rom on 6.0. 1 and I'm sick of the weird path name it gives the external SD card. It messes with link2sd and my Manga Reader. I was wondering if I can simply flash a kit Kat rom on miui without ruining anything...
no
So I'll have to go back to stock first via Odin?
raylgo said:
So I'll have to go back to stock first via Odin?
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you cant do that either. Once you progress past 5.0, youre stuck
I directly downgraded to 4.4 with my G900W8. However, you need to be careful with which version you are going to flash. For example, when I flashed any other 4.4 firmware than NCG (Which is the first version of 4.4 released for G900W8), I faced bootloop.
panda6024 said:
I directly downgraded to 4.4 with my G900W8. However, you need to be careful with which version you are going to flash. For example, when I flashed any other 4.4 firmware than NCG (Which is the first version of 4.4 released for G900W8), I faced bootloop.
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there is a physical fuse that gets tripped in the S5 once you go past 5.0 that is there to no allow you to go back. Not sure if you were on a 4.4 bootloader that allowed you to do this or what, but trying to flash back to 4.4 after being on a 5.0 baseband is very ill advised
I don't think you can down grade to kit kat, but you can go from marshmallow to lollipop. I just did it last weekend. Check this...https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/root-method-og5-ok3-t3290370
I hope it helps you.
Actually i can downgrade anytime from MM to LP or LP to KK
but i didnt tried MM to KK yet.... tried it many times it works.. unlocked G900F
Edit: im talking about stock rom btw (from sammobile)
dotgeo said:
Actually i can downgrade anytime from MM to LP or LP to KK
but i didnt tried MM to KK yet.... tried it many times it works.. unlocked G900F
Edit: im talking about stock rom btw (from sammobile)
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then you dont have a MM bootloader. I just re-read some posts that confirm that the phone locks to 5.0 once you get that bootloader. Its not possible to go back, and it doesnt matter if you have the G900F or not
youdoofus said:
there is a physical fuse that gets tripped in the S5 once you go past 5.0 that is there to no allow you to go back. Not sure if you were on a 4.4 bootloader that allowed you to do this or what, but trying to flash back to 4.4 after being on a 5.0 baseband is very ill advised
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Then if there is a physical fuse, why was I able to downgrade from MM to KK? One difference when I downgraded from MM to KK NCG was that "Powered by Android" logo was changed to old style. I think NCG build of KitKat changed bootloader from MM one to KK one. Baseband wise, I also flashed KK baseband and it worked very well. It might be different on G900F but with my G900W8 I could go back to KK.
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Then if there is a physical fuse, why was I able to downgrade from MM to KK? One difference when I downgraded from MM to KK NCG was that "Powered by Android" logo was changed to old style. I think NCG build of KitKat changed bootloader from MM one to KK one. Baseband wise, I also flashed KK baseband and it worked very well. It might be different on G900F but with my G900W8 I could go back to KK.
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not sure, but ive had my G900P for 2 years 10 months and have been constantly on XDA since my OG evo back in the day (the one with the kickstand) and everything ive ever read saya that once you go past 5.0, you cant go back. Not sure what you have going on there, but there are tons of posts going back several years stating exactly this
Of course you can downgrade to kk.
Just download the kk firmwafe. Pull out battery for 5 sec. Then flash trough odin. Did it mant times and no problem with that.
i did that on my galaxy s5 and it works

Looking for Stock Lollipop firmware for SH-i337

Hi, I meant SGH-i337 in the title.
I beleive I posted this in the completely wrong phone section last time, so I am posting this here.
My device model is the SGH-I337. I downloaded Odin version 3.12.3, downloaded the official drivers for the Samsung S4 USB, but I can't seem to find stock Lollipop 5.0.1. SamMobile only gives the 4.x versions for some reason. I started following the below link for a method to at least flash an older firmware to my phone, but I want to flash stock Lollipop. Is there even a way to get Lollipop back without root?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/help/guide-att-samsung-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-t3383078
I was able to downgrade, but I still need an official stock 5.0.1 firmware. My virus protection says towelroot is a virus, so I don't want to go that route. If I do an OTA upgrade after I flash the old firmware from the above link, will it brick my phone? It's rootable NB1 ROM. I already tried to install the stock 4.x firmware from SamMobile, but that doesn't work, so it seems I need stock Lollipop.
AT&T never released a stock lollipop firmware that can be flashed with Odin. All at&t updates were released ota.
The MechE said:
Hi, I meant SGH-i337 in the title.
I beleive I posted this in the completely wrong phone section last time, so I am posting this here.
My device model is the SGH-I337. I downloaded Odin version 3.12.3, downloaded the official drivers for the Samsung S4 USB, but I can't seem to find stock Lollipop 5.0.1. SamMobile only gives the 4.x versions for some reason. I started following the below link for a method to at least flash an older firmware to my phone, but I want to flash stock Lollipop. Is there even a way to get Lollipop back without root?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/help/guide-att-samsung-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-t3383078
I was able to downgrade, but I still need an official stock 5.0.1 firmware. My virus protection says towelroot is a virus, so I don't want to go that route. If I do an OTA upgrade after I flash the old firmware from the above link, will it brick my phone? It's rootable NB1 ROM. I already tried to install the stock 4.x firmware from SamMobile, but that doesn't work, so it seems I need stock Lollipop.
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Cough Cough
https://www.sammobile.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37698
or if your want a dirict download
http://www.mediafire.com/file/g7cqg4a3zvuttd8/5.0.1.OC3(Farsat+Sagvan).zip
Hi I am running goldeneye custom rom on my i-337 5.0.1 with ok2 kernel. If you go to that forum thread in development, you will find very detailed instructions to get att s4 to 5.0.1 stock. As a side note I can assure you if you just download towel root on your phone, install and run there is no virus of any sort. Make sure you download from towelroot .com
On second look through I don't think there is stock 5.0.1 using safestrap....
paintballa628628 said:
Hi I am running goldeneye custom rom on my i-337 5.0.1 with ok2 kernel. If you go to that forum thread in development, you will find very detailed instructions to get att s4 to 5.0.1 stock. As a side note I can assure you if you just download towel root on your phone, install and run there is no virus of any sort. Make sure you download from towelroot .com
On second look through I don't think there is stock 5.0.1 using safestrap....
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Yupp absolutely true its completely a false positive I've used towlroot many many many times....

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