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Why are so many apps incompatible?

I'm writing an article on the Nexus 7 and Jelly Bean, and I wonder if someone with more coding knowledge could help me out with something.
I'm wondering why so many apps are listed as "incompatible" with the Nexus 7. Is it the device configuration, or something to do with the way the apps are coded? Why would an app like NBA JAM work on a Galaxy Nexus but not a Nexus 7?

I think it's the default screen DPI value screwing things up.
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TheBiles said:
I think it's the default screen DPI value screwing things up.
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That would cause apps to be listed as "incompatible" in the Play Store?
How can developers make apps more widely compatible? Shouldn't the Android SDK responsive design features take care of that?
Thanks!

A lot of the applications that are listed as incompatible are in fact compatible if side loaded onto the device, bypassing the Play Store.
I don't want to assume you are new to Android but usually within 2-4 weeks of a new Android OS launch, more applications will become compatible in the Play Store.

Nexcellent said:
A lot of the applications that are listed as incompatible are in fact compatible if side loaded onto the device, bypassing the Play Store.
I don't want to assume you are new to Android but usually within 2-4 weeks of a new Android OS launch, more applications will become compatible in the Play Store.
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I've been a Nexus user for a few years now, so I know that eventually apps will be updated, although it's always pretty annoying in the beginning. I'm just trying to understand better what developers have to do in order to make apps compatible with new devices and new versions of Android.

Many also show incompatible (such as Amazon) because they require a rear camera. They work fine when sideloaded (as mentioned above) but force close when trying to access the camera.

There's a build property for "highest version of android that this app will work for". Google advises against using it in the documentation, but a lot of devs set the max version to ICS anyway. Expect it to be corrected as more people get JB

Nexus 4 and the Google Play Issue

As you everyone know Nexus 4 is still a realy good device that is bugged with Battery lacks, sod, force restarts and etc.
Many logs and researches have shown that the source is Google Play Services app.
I'm now just asking the question: If we are out of support from google's side, and nothing has changed long time, are we going to throw this phone to trash?
Someone a solution to this major problem?

Play Services Updates will still be updated on the phone. It just will no longer get OS upgrades. Any issues which are the result of Play Services could potentially get fixed as new versions roll out. That said, my N4 works great, and is not going to the rubbish bin anytime soon. Not to mention, the N7 2013 is getting Android 6, so due to hardware similarities with the N4, I would expect that we will get a port in short order after the 5th.

If googles done making Nexus Devices, will they announce a Pixel Player?

Since google said the Nexus program is dead, I wonder if we'll get a Pixel Player to replace the Nexus Player down the road? I got my Nexus player off craigslist w/ a game controller and I love it for a spare tv. Could use a little more app support, but hopefully a new version w/ Pixel would expand on that. Any hints of this happening yet I missed reading about?

Doubt it. Looks like they are really pushing the android home voice box with chromecasts.

Oculus and Gear VR on LG V20

We've got two Gear VRs and no Note 7s. Is it possible to run the Gear VR on the V20? Our V20s are T-Mo. Will we be able to root and spoof the build.prop phone id as an S7E to get it to run? How about sideloading the Oculus app?
I've tested and the V20 fits into the Gear VR nicely. The USB C engages correctly.
Does anyone have any info on this? There must be less of others with useless Gear VRs after returning their Note 7s.

The form factor and "Detection" of the Gear VR software would be your 2 hurdles to get over with using the Gear VR. At this point I am selling my Gear VR 2016 model.

if the v20 fits, you might be able to run Cardboard apps or view youtube 360 movies...the gear vr will then just be a overgrown google cardboard

I've got a rooted Note7. When I try to log into Oculus, it refuses to allow it. However, if I change the phone type to an S7 in build.prop, it logs in fine. I'm hoping we get root on the V20 and I'll be able to do the same trick.
It seems like there's not much action on rooting, however. Does anyone know why, or is it just too early. Supposedly the T-Mobile V20 is bootloader unlocked.

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I've got a rooted Note7. When I try to log into Oculus, it refuses to allow it. However, if I change the phone type to an S7 in build.prop, it logs in fine. I'm hoping we get root on the V20 and I'll be able to do the same trick.
It seems like there's not much action on rooting, however. Does anyone know why, or is it just too early. Supposedly the T-Mobile V20 is bootloader unlocked.
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It's not just the build.prop. The Note 7 was shut down by Oculus due to the recall. The Samsung premium phones have detection software that the V20 doesn't have. Whether that can be ported or not remains to be seen.

douger1957 said:
The Samsung premium phones have detection software that the V20 doesn't have. Whether that can be ported or not remains to be seen.
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Do you think that detection software is outside the Gear VR service and the Oculus System Driver? I've got TB backups of both (and all other Oculus/Gear apps) and hoped to sideload them, then change build.prop. Of course, can't test any of this without root.

I've tried watching 3D SBS movies played via a standard player with the V20 in the Gear VR. You can focus, but the aspect ratio is off (stretched vertically) and parts of the video are off to the side. We'd need the Gear VR player for that to work.

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Do you think that detection software is outside the Gear VR service and the Oculus System Driver? I've got TB backups of both (and all other Oculus/Gear apps) and hoped to sideload them, then change build.prop. Of course, can't test any of this without root.
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That's above my pay grade but I think the Gear Service will have to be ported to the V20 for it to work. As some else said, you otherwise have Google Cardboard.
I still have my Note 4 which I was planning to dedicate to the VR. I have to get over a "network not available" issue.

Any updates on this? I got a new gear VR headset but sold my s7 edge and just got the LG V20, jw if there are any updates on if this works or not?
Thanks

Have you tried these things using the LG VR headset. I know its compatible with the V20. Maybe it can be used to run some Oculus software. I would LOVE that.

It works a little bit. Just use Google goggles app. Doesn't look crisp like it would a galaxy s7 edge/note 7

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Have you tried these things using the LG VR headset. I know its compatible with the V20. Maybe it can be used to run some Oculus software. I would LOVE that.
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No I didn't yet.. From what I've heard, not many people like the LG VR headset because there are very limited apps right now.. Not sure of the validity on that, but I've also not really looked into it..

New 5X Owner Here - Updating to Android 7.1.2 Now (Beta Program)

I'm not sure if this is news or not, but my Nexus 5X is updating to Android 7.1.2 Beta as I type this. I have seen articles stating that the Nexus 6P is getting the 7.1.2 Beta, but nothing on the 5X.
I stuck with the Nexus 6 for two years and loved it! I'm actually missing it in some ways. I picked up a New Sealed Carbon 32GB Nexus 5 X off eBay for $280 shipped, I've had it for two weeks now. I wouldn't call it a big "upgrade" but I am loving the fingerprint sensor and far superior camera! I wanted something a little smaller too so it is nice to be able to (easily) operate my phone one handed again. The 5.2" display is perfect for me. I'm not too worried about the whole "bootloop plague" with the Nexus 5X because the person I bought it from on eBay just received it from Google as a replacement for his 5X which was plagued by the infamous "bootloop". I would hope that Google wouldn't be replacing effected devices with potentially effected devices.
I use to be a "flashaholic" and loved trying out new custom ROMs. I stuck with Pure Nexus in the end. Now I'm happy just running Stock Android and stick to that. I use Android Pay daily (I've been out of the modding scene for a while, not sure if they worked around the whole Unlocked Bootloader / Rooted / ROMd and Android Pay dilemma) so that is a big part of why I just stay stock. It is good to know that the 5X has great dev support though so I'll have something to fall back on when Google abandons the 5X.
I'll update soon on what I think of 7.1.2 and any actual noticeable differences if anyone is interested.

Techbyte said:
I'm not sure if this is news or not, but my Nexus 5X is updating to Android 7.1.2 Beta as I type this. I have seen articles stating that the Nexus 6P is getting the 7.1.2 Beta, but nothing on the 5X.
I stuck with the Nexus 6 for two years and loved it! I'm actually missing it in some ways. I picked up a New Sealed Carbon 32GB Nexus 5 X off eBay for $280 shipped, I've had it for two weeks now. I wouldn't call it a big "upgrade" but I am loving the fingerprint sensor and far superior camera! I wanted something a little smaller too so it is nice to be able to (easily) operate my phone one handed again. The 5.2" display is perfect for me. I'm not too worried about the whole "bootloop plague" with the Nexus 5X because the person I bought it from on eBay just received it from Google as a replacement for his 5X which was plagued by the infamous "bootloop". I would hope that Google wouldn't be replacing effected devices with potentially effected devices.
I use to be a "flashaholic" and loved trying out new custom ROMs. I stuck with Pure Nexus in the end. Now I'm happy just running Stock Android and stick to that. I use Android Pay daily (I've been out of the modding scene for a while, not sure if they worked around the whole Unlocked Bootloader / Rooted / ROMd and Android Pay dilemma) so that is a big part of why I just stay stock. It is good to know that the 5X has great dev support though so I'll have something to fall back on when Google abandons the 5X.
I'll update soon on what I think of 7.1.2 and any actual noticeable differences if anyone is interested.
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It's been available for a month on the 5X:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...cludes-pixels-nexus-5x-player-6p-and-pixel-c/
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SlimSnoopOS said:
It's been available for a month on the 5X:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...cludes-pixels-nexus-5x-player-6p-and-pixel-c/
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Ahh I see. It must just be new to the 6P then.

Techbyte said:
Ahh I see. It must just be new to the 6P then.
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Correct. It's was surprisingly delayed for the 6P.
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My phone says that I have 4.31GB of data used on my sdcard. There is no way I should have that much, I only have a few apps downloaded and no games or media. Does anyone else notice a big chunk of data being used for no reason? I tried the Pixel ROM (which warns that there could be a 3GB file left on the sdcard) before flashing the Beta 7.1.2, but I clean flashed the Beta via the bootloader, which should have completely wiped the internal storage. I have tried looking for a big file, but can't find one. Any ideas would be appreciated.

The system uses nearly that much.
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The ROM need that data for your System
lyall29 said:
My phone says that I have 4.31GB of data used on my sdcard. There is no way I should have that much, I only have a few apps downloaded and no games or media. Does anyone else notice a big chunk of data being used for no reason? I tried the Pixel ROM (which warns that there could be a 3GB file left on the sdcard) before flashing the Beta 7.1.2, but I clean flashed the Beta via the bootloader, which should have completely wiped the internal storage. I have tried looking for a big file, but can't find one. Any ideas would be appreciated.
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Android System takes about 4GBs that why.Before the update if remember correctly didn't show all phone's memory (with android system). e.g. On my nexus 5x 16GB on android 7.1.1 it was showing used 3.7GBs of 10.67GBs, now it says 7.7GB of 14.68GBs.
Look at the picture that I've attached.

Billys20 said:
Android System takes about 4GBs that why.Before the update if remember correctly didn't show all phone's memory (with android system). e.g. On my nexus 5x 16GB on android 7.1.1 it was showing used 3.7GBs of 10.67GBs, now it says 7.7GB of 14.68GBs.
Look at the picture that I've attached.
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I meant to say that I had 4GB of Apps. I ended up clean flashing back to 7.1.1 and when I first booted the phone there was only a few hundred MB's of Apps. After I downloaded all of my must have apps, I checked again and sure enough, I have about 4GB of Apps downloaded. I think it's mostly Pocket Casts and the downloaded podcasts. I'm not used to a 16GB phone, it's been so long since I've had to keep an eye on my storage.
Thanks anyway for the reply:good:

I couldn't edit my previous post and add this attachment.

any chance getting bootloop signing up with beta? would like the 7.1.2 fingerprint swipe