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Is EDGE everything it's cracked up to be? Can you share the speed of EDGE with a laptop using the Wireless Modem? Any info would be appreciated.
Since no one bothered to answer me, I'll answer myself. After receiving my Qtek 9100 yesterday, I configured my device as I had lways done for T-Mobile's GPRS service. Since T-Mobile's EDGE upgrade was free to their internet service users, the setup was the same as their regular GPRS service (internet2.voicestream.com).
The speed is just as fast as it's supposed to be. The new wireless modem utility is easier to use than HTC's older version, and it uses the same USB Modem Dialer program on the laptop. The speed on the laptop seems just as fast as the speed on the device itself, but the speed was inconsistent when I tested with pcpitstop.com (35 kbps-108 kbps).
I have T-Mobile's unlimited internet plan, so I left the internet connected all night on my laptop. It did not drop, and the speed was still fast the next morning. I'm very happy so far with the Wizard.
I even didn´t know that the Wizard/MDA Vario supports EDGE!
But T-Mobile is not offering EDGE in Germany so far. They won´t, cause nobody will need it. And soon their will be a new Service after UMTS/WCDMA, HSDPA will allow speeds up to 7mbit until the year 2010. In the beginning it will only be possible to reach speeds up to 1,8mbit.. but it is enough! :wink:
Verizon in the U.S. is offering high speed wireless. Edge doesn't even come close, but at least it's faster than their old service.
I guess I'll have to buy a new device when they roll out a faster service here... :shock:
my jasjar is slow as hell. what sim card do u have?
littleman
JasJar only supports GPRS (comparable to dialup) in the USA it does not support Edge or the UMTS 1900 as required in the USA if it did and had 850 I would purchase one in a sec.
Edge seems to be working pretty good for me here in Kuwait. I use it both on my KJAM directly and with my laptop connecting to the KJAM over bluetooth. I've gotten speeds in the range of 128 kbps - 170 kbps which is pretty good.
Guys, I just want to confirm that my Ameo really is running on 3.5G (HSDPA). Is there some icon or way to confirm that? I see the 3G icon at the top but bandwidth test returns 1.1 mbps and I expect more from HSDPA. Or does T-Mobile need to set a switch on their end? I have the web-n-walk plan.
Thanks,
Krip
1.1 is HSDPA, not UTMS
When connected to normal 3G network my Dopod U1000 shows a 3G icon, after HSDPA network covered it will show a H icon.
simdao said:
When connected to normal 3G network my Dopod U1000 shows a 3G icon, after HSDPA network covered it will show a H icon.
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hi, since you can connect to the HSDPA, can you kindly do a test for me for this problem?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302827
Am i on HSDPA....
As soon as you get higher bandwidth than 384 Kbps then you are on HSDPA regardless of what the icon on your phone reads, most networks have the feature enabled to register the "H" icon whebn you are using HSDPA but not all. The message is part of a SIB broadcast and is set as a parameter on the BTS cell that covers you - if this message is not enabled then you will only ever see the "3G" icon
As for speed 1.1 Mbps is about average if you are in a well populated area, the restriction comes mostly from the capacity available in in the BTS site serving you, most operators only have around 2x E1 (approx 4 Mbps) for the entire site so if you have more than 1 user on HSDPA then you will only get around 1 Mbps each - this dynamicaly adjusts if there is more bandwidth available for you to use. To get the higher speeds then you must be in a cell that uses 16QAM modulation (Tytn has this feature) and T-Mobile has this enabled on every site in the network but not all operators do!
normal 3G is 384Kbps download Hsdpa on T-mobile is restricted to their max network speed of 1Mbps but there are rumours of them soon going to 3.8 mbps, but the athena maxes out at 1.8 mbps anyway, so if you want full speed get a USB dongle.
web and walk plus
Im not sure if you are aware but to enable the hsdpa you must be on the "web and walk max" package in the uk.
If you are on the standard W&W package you will not benefit. I have the MAX W&W and can now enjoy the faster hsdpa connection, further more I can get faster speeds using my ameo and wifirouter linked to my laptop than I actualy get via my usb tmobile dongle.
In a nutshell, dont pay extra for the slower hsdpa dongle, not when you can pay £5 extra for the W&WMAX and enjoy wireless connection at a higher speed. I usualy use my laptop with the ameo tucked away inside my suit jacket, and often have people wondering where my dongle is!
hedgemonstahinz said:
Im not sure if you are aware but to enable the hsdpa you must be on the "web and walk max" package in the uk.
If you are on the standard W&W package you will not benefit. I have the MAX W&W and can now enjoy the faster hsdpa connection, further more I can get faster speeds using my ameo and wifirouter linked to my laptop than I actualy get via my usb tmobile dongle.
In a nutshell, dont pay extra for the slower hsdpa dongle, not when you can pay £5 extra for the W&WMAX and enjoy wireless connection at a higher speed. I usualy use my laptop with the ameo tucked away inside my suit jacket, and often have people wondering where my dongle is!
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Not true, I have both W&W added to my phone account and W&Wmax on a data card and both sims are capable of full 1mbps HSDPA in either device
Restricted network speeds on T-Mobile
ice_coffee said:
normal 3G is 384Kbps download Hsdpa on T-mobile is restricted to their max network speed of 1Mbps but there are rumours of them soon going to 3.8 mbps, but the athena maxes out at 1.8 mbps anyway, so if you want full speed get a USB dongle.
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Hi there, T-Mobile does not have any restrictions on download speeds apart from your service level (wnw max, plus etc) almost all wnw users can use the maximum speed available to them (apart from the newer users). The network is fully 3.8Mbps already and has been for around 9 months, within the next 8 weeks it will be 9.6Mbps capable (with a new datacard or release 6 mobile device) and within 6 months they should be around 10.7Mbps capable - most of the restrictions that users see (speeds not higher than 1.2Mbps etc) come from lack of capacity in the BTS site or transmission backhaul, the system automaticaly restricts bandwidth per user so that all users can be served at the same time, and it's not often nowadays that you only get 1 data user per BTS site!! not in built up areas......:-D
W'n'W Std = £7.50/month - No HSDPA (except on some older contracts) 1Gb FUP no tethering
W'n'W Plus = £12.50/ Month - HSDPA - speeds vary depending on congestion - Athena limited to 1,8Mb max 3Gb FUP No VOIP tethering allowed
W'n'W Max = £25? / Month As plus but with VOIP
Unless someone wants to correct me that's how I believe it stands (the old W'n'W Pro for £10/month was only available for a few months)
T do not limit speeds but the 1.8/3.6/7.2 etc are maximums which are shared so you are unlikely to ever get 'full' speed.
My 3G vs HSPDA test from San Antonio
I have a AT&T Tilt. Freshly programed with the 6.1 AT&T Rom. Minimal upgrades like color KB etc.. I have a Panasonic CF-74 connected to the PDA via USB. I ran 4 test each using 3G and HSPDA.
Here is what I found. Using the stock Internet Sharing provided on the PDA.
Active Sync 4.5.
Web site used: http://www.speedtest.net
3G test 1 2 3 4
ping 323ms 165 182 167
DL 1.33mb 1.01 1.35 1.10
Up .34 .80 .52 .24
HSPDA test 1 2 3 4
ping 292ms 189 640 113
DL .99mb .85 .72 1.01
Up .06 .31 .02 .41
It seems to me that 3G is faster.
I rebooted both laptop and pda after each test.
I connected to google once before running each test.
I waited 5 minutes after each boot up.
I used Keiser Tweak.
Nothing was syncing
Hmm,
I'm located in Singapore.
For some reason, after my HTC TP2 switch to 3G instead of HSDPA..
The Opera and Youtube speed is sooo much faster as compare with HSDPA.
When I was on HSDPA, the Opera is slow loading and Youtube a few time with reload for buffering.
Where else, on 3G.. the download speed is so much faster.
The first clip of the video start to play.. I can see the progress bar is on the
way to complete the video loading.
This proof 3G is better in Singapore with Starhub connection.
I still wonder
BTW, this is what I change in the Registry.
Locate the following key in the registry:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Internet Settings
On the Edit menu, point to New, click DWORD Value, and then add the following registry values:
Value name: MaxConnectionsPer1_0Server
Value data: 32
Base: Decimal
Value Name: MaxConnectionsPerServer
Value data: 16
Base: Decimal
Exit Registry Editor.
then softreset and do a speed test
hsdpa
I need the help. But there is no such option under "advanced network" on the htc tilt 2(Enable/Disabled hsdpa option).What programs recomended for me
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anyone know i this will work with t-mobile's new HSPA network?
heavyio said:
I have a AT&T Tilt. Freshly programed with the 6.1 AT&T Rom. Minimal upgrades like color KB etc.. I have a Panasonic CF-74 connected to the PDA via USB. I ran 4 test each using 3G and HSPDA.
Here is what I found. Using the stock Internet Sharing provided on the PDA.
Active Sync 4.5.
Web site used: http://www.speedtest.net
3G test 1 2 3 4
ping 323ms 165 182 167
DL 1.33mb 1.01 1.35 1.10
Up .34 .80 .52 .24
HSPDA test 1 2 3 4
ping 292ms 189 640 113
DL .99mb .85 .72 1.01
Up .06 .31 .02 .41
It seems to me that 3G is faster.
I rebooted both laptop and pda after each test.
I connected to google once before running each test.
I waited 5 minutes after each boot up.
I used Keiser Tweak.
Nothing was syncing
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i used samsung galaxy s wen showing H icon instead of 3g on att usa california, it gave results of 4.1mbps,
i used sonyericsson x10 on att showing 3g icon (it never shows H icon ever though), on att usa california it gave me max speed of 3.97 mbps
heavyio said:
I have a AT&T Tilt. Freshly programed with the 6.1 AT&T Rom. Minimal upgrades like color KB etc.. I have a Panasonic CF-74 connected to the PDA via USB. I ran 4 test each using 3G and HSPDA.
Here is what I found. Using the stock Internet Sharing provided on the PDA.
Active Sync 4.5.
Web site used: http://www.speedtest.net
3G test 1 2 3 4
ping 323ms 165 182 167
DL 1.33mb 1.01 1.35 1.10
Up .34 .80 .52 .24
HSPDA test 1 2 3 4
ping 292ms 189 640 113
DL .99mb .85 .72 1.01
Up .06 .31 .02 .41
It seems to me that 3G is faster.
I rebooted both laptop and pda after each test.
I connected to google once before running each test.
I waited 5 minutes after each boot up.
I used Keiser Tweak.
Nothing was syncing
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I'm getting similar results with my Samsung Captivate on a customer ROM. 3G seems to produce faster results than HSPDA.
i used this tweak on windowsphone
works great!
I am connected to T-Mobile Internet (HSDPA) and I ran a speed test at www.dslreports.com/mspeed but I only got 395kbps, 0.324s latency. Why so slow?
That speedtester is rubbish - I once got 250k on wifi.
arfster said:
That speedtester is rubbish - I once got 250k on wifi.
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can you recommend a better one?
i've just found out that t-mobile doesn't activate HSDPA unless you call up CS and ask them to enable it. some people have been told that you have to be on web n walk pro to have HSDPA whereas others have had it added free of charge.
http://www.3g.co.uk/3GForum/archive/index.php/t-45508.html
but one thing is still confusing me... the H is displayed at the top of my screen when I use the data connection. and when I click on it it actually says HSDPA. what's going on?
try http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest.html via your laptop. much better and accurate
if you have the H - then you are def on it. If it was just 3G it would say 3G. But bare in mind that T Mobile HSDPA has been dreadful for nearly a month. It gets so bad that I am considering asking them to release me from contract for violating terms of service. I pay for HSDPA as advertised and I dont get it.
I had web&walk previously and I managed to get full speeds for a while. Once I have reduced my call plan(not data) the speeds were down to 300kbps and less. On these occations, I would still see H as the indication but sure they were capping it on the network.
reopening old thread
I've got H and my provider allows speed up to 7.2/2mbps, but for long time (few months) testing I never get speed higher than about 2.4/0.3 Mbps. I've tested on computers via USB cable and on two different locations both about 500m from antenna.
My provider say that I have all set up correctly and doesn't know why speed is 'so slow'.
reopening old thread
I've got H and my provider allows speed up to 7.2/2mbps, but for long time (few months) testing I never get speed higher than about 2.4/0.3 Mbps. I've tested on computers via USB cable and on two different locations both about 500m from antenna.
My provider say that I have all set up correctly and doesn't know why speed is 'so slow'.
Which provider? Mobitel or Si.mobil? I have Mobitel, and it's true, that it isn't always as fast as it should be - in centre of capital city...
My ISP is T2, unlimited for 10€. It's not listed on this forum settings dropdown menu
What max speed do you get with Mobitel provider and HTC HD
feeltch said:
My provider say that I have all set up correctly and doesn't know why speed is 'so slow'.
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Nearly everywhere 7.2mbit hspa is a myth - the only way you can get it is if nobody else is using the celltower.
A very reliable speed test application is: http:www.mobilespeedtest.com.
The dsl.reports app (on my HD) provides non accurate results.
The more people using a HSDPA or 3G celltower - the slower your speeds get.
Trust me - I've done all the testing from a corporate perspective - HSDPA 7.2 is a myth - you'll never get that speed - its more like 3.2mb/s MAX!. On 3G the average bandwith is about 300kb/s - but only on a good day.
hth
feeltch said:
My ISP is T2, unlimited for 10€. It's not listed on this forum settings dropdown menu
What max speed do you get with Mobitel provider and HTC HD
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I'll test and report tonight, when I'm on a good HSDPA signal covarage!
yo compatriot , have you manage to test the speed yet?
With www.mobilespeedtest.com it managed to get 3Mbit downstream in Ljubljana-Vič, haven't tried Centre yet. For normal browsing and download of some small files it's ok. I'll report if I get better bandwidth!
With www.mobilespeedtest.com:
- I get a 2.37 Mbps speed test result on the 3 MB file(biggest) while connected from my mobile to a HSDPA 3.6 network which allows for a max 1.1 Mbps speed.
- I get a 2.4 Mbps speed test result from my computer while connected on a 15 Mbps ADSL - yes - I do 1.7 MBytes/sec transfers all the time - careful at the units of measurement!
- on smaller than 3 MBytes file size, the results are just random
www.mobilespeedtest.com is FAKE
The flow of the web pages has been so severely thrashed by ISP filters its not reliable to real testing anymore.
Stop.Calling.Any.Web page.A.Speed.Test.
Ping flood is designed for real measuring a line speed, but most ISPs have scripts which will ban you automatically if you sent packets faster than with a delay of 0.02 seconds. That is because is too much prone to abuse.
hi all, just got my hd2 and i am blown away. I thought my 2.5 year old advantage 7500 was something, this is just another universe.
i am in USA and have AT&T and mobile speedtest gives me dial up speeds, 45-70kbps
the indicator has an E and I do have a good signal.
sorry for sounding newbie, but where to start fixing this?
also, tip...
found this and it worked amazingly
http://www.wmskins.com/blog/15-more-tips-tricks-for-htc-hd2-leo-things-you-may-not-have-known
Speed Up Web Page Loading Considerably
The following registry tweak will enable almost instantaneous web page loading in the web browser. It apparently enables wireless N mode but seems to work with cellular data too. Go to:
HKLM/Comm/BCMSDDHD1/Parms
11nModeDisable = Change from 1 to 0
today on a road trip I got as high as 172kbps and as low as 24kbps.
Help needed
I'm in Richmond VA and am currently only running on AT&T EDGE due to no 850 3G. I took a trip up to Baltimore and was running on H from about 20 miles north of Richmond to Baltimore.. I noticed that my speeds weren't impressive running mobilespeedtest and dslreports. I was getting between 450kbps and 750kbps consistently from Northern Virginia to Baltimore. Seems very low considering I had my wifes Iphone next to me running the speed tests consecutively and was getting 1200- 1400 kbps. My question is, do I have anything setup wrong as far as proxy settings? I haven't changed anything from my automatic configuration settings. I am running 2.10.531.7 Artemis 9.0 WWE and Radio 2.09.50.29_2. My signal shows 4 bars strong w/ no drop out. Anyone w/ any input would help greatly.
Anyone have some input?
anyone have some input?
I am on AT&T in Florida with a T9193 and so I do
get full H speeds all of the time. When I read about using Edge speeds I ran a test to see what I got. My input to you is that using Opera Mini 5 and Skyfire my speeds on Edge were very near to the H speeds for downloading a 2 meg jpg from my ftp site. Opera 9.7 and Explorer were three times as slow. Might try the test yourself.
Hi everyone,
this post is useful not only to owners of a500, but tested on.
Reading of million post of using 3G/4G usb modem and lot of unhandy actions to do this work, i decide to look for an alternate things, that not sticks from tablet and will not require any hardware/software modding. I found it. Solution was MIFI router. So, there are plenty then on market, but i choose exact one Sierra Overdrive (AirCard W801) 3G/4G. Why?
Battery life est. 6 hours
Can work and charging directly from a500 USB slot.
strong signal
nice looking
also as a bonus, built-in GPS, micro SD slot, which can be shared over net, and a possibility of making small wifi local net.
In Ukraine it cost about 50usd. (Sprint edt.). I have to change software on it, because we don`t have a Sprint network. Used InterTelecom.
Some tech:
Sierra Overdrive 3G/4G
(Sierra Wireless AirCard® W801 Mobile Hotspot)
Network Technology :CDMA EV-DO REV A/WiMAX
Frequency Bands: CDMA 850/1900 MHz, WiMax 2500 MHz, GPS 1575 MHz
Antenna Diversity Support Yes
Operating System Support Windows XP, Vista, 7, Mac OS X, Linux or Anything with Wi-Fi
Operating Temperature 0 to 45° Celsius
Storage Temperature -20 to 85° Celsius
Form Factor Mobile Hotspot
System Requirements Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g
Device Dimensions : 80 mm (L) x 80 mm (W) x 15.2 mm (H), 3.15” (L) x 3.15” (W) x 0.6” (H),
Weight: 4.47 oz (127 g)
AC charger with USB port
Max Uplink Speed 5 Mbps
Max Downlink Speed 10 Mbps
Internal antenna
GPS
MicroSD slot
No receive equalizer
micro USB
Battery up 6hours.
Tested:
Iconia A500 32GB, stock. No modification done.
Sierra Overdrive 3G/4G. Sprint edition, software custom modified to support Intertelecom 3G network.
Max Uplink Speed 1.2 Mbps (3G)
Max Downlink Speed 2.5 Mbps (3G)
SD card 8gb shared over network with Acer laptop.
Network connected at 54mbit, work clearly without stacks.
Battery: Iconia connected 3G via wifi approx. 5hours 15min.
Iconia + laptop + mobile phone, 3g, via wifi, inside moving car, aprox. 3hours
GPS much more sensitive then iconia internal ones.
BTW, greatly quicker then A501 3G and more useful.
Hope was useful.
Sorry, for possible mistakes, English not my native language.
Or, if you have a smartphone that supports it (like Android), just enable the access point and use that.
Several custom ROMs for the A500 are comming with a 3g patch to support Huawei 3G USB sticks. Since you can get these sticks in combination with a prepaid SIM card for free in some countries, this is another "cheap" way to implement 3G support on a A500 (if one doesn't have an Android cell phone).
Best regards, maris
its true, but if you have.
anyway 50usd cheaper than any of wifi smartphone and much more convenient than 3G dongles via tablet usb.
just use a huawei e585
so this works kinda like a router...so where does the connection come from? sim card?
These type of devices are all over the us markets..
This included pre paid plans pay per mb plans and of course contract data plans . But as said above just get a android cell that you can ROOT.And install a tether app.
Cell plans with data are about the same price as a data only Hot spot device.. Now i am just posting the way it it in the us.. Other countries as where the OP Is i guess likely to be much different .
I Tether my TAB and Sometimes my notebook to my Cell all the time. As far as gps in iconia.. i am really not sure what more you need then the 10 or so sats i go with Co- Pilot on my iconia. in 10--30 seconds..
Very useful post im assuming for people not in the US..
mythek88 said:
so this works kinda like a router...so where does the connection come from? sim card?
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should be prepaid or custom programmed directly. Not using sim/ruim cards.
erica_renee said:
These type of devices are all over the us markets..
This included pre paid plans pay per mb plans and of course contract data plans . But as said above just get a android cell that you can ROOT.And install a tether app.
Cell plans with data are about the same price as a data only Hot spot device.. Now i am just posting the way it it in the us.. Other countries as where the OP Is i guess likely to be much different .
I Tether my TAB and Sometimes my notebook to my Cell all the time. As far as gps in iconia.. i am really not sure what more you need then the 10 or so sats i go with Co- Pilot on my iconia. in 10--30 seconds..
Very useful post im assuming for people not in the US..
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Here in Europe we don't need to root our phones to tether internet. If device have a tethering option ,GSM/internet providers don't block it. It would be against the law