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What does really prevent me from getting OTAs?

I'm a little bit confused right now, supposedly rooting does not prevent you from getting OTAs, but having a custom kernel does, but having root is not having a custom kernel?
Having TWRP prevents me from getting OTAS? if I reflash the stock recovery will I lose root?
Sorry for the noob questions

They are using staged rollouts of the ota.
So people won't be getting it at the same time. This is so the servers won't be overloaded, and they can delay it if lots of issues arise
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You need stock recovery, thats what going to do the OTA update for you. It won't remove root, but the OTA update will remove your root, you can use SuperSU paid app to save root through OTAs.

eksasol said:
You need stock recovery, thats what going to do the OTA update for you. It won't remove root, but the OTA update will remove your root, you can use SuperSU paid app to save root through OTAs.
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Ok, thanks! I wil make sure to save my root before I update my phone, but I still don't know what root really does to the system, if it's not a custom close to stock kernel, then what is it?

I think this will answer your question easier what root does: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superuser
The customization is base on how you intend to use root to customize to your phone. You want to stay stock as much as possible if you want to receive OTAs.
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Note 3 wont update to kitkat

Hey this is my first post and Im sorry if some of this is a repeat, I looked around for a little bit and wasnt able to find any answers.
I have a note 3 on verizon and i finally got it rooted on MJE. I have SuperSU installed as well as xposed installer as well as wanam xposed and a couple modules. I was trying to update via OTA and it constantly gives me error 402. I have tried hiding superuser and it says on odin? i believe that im on the offical rom and everything.
i just cant get onto kit kat no matter what i do. it downloads and once it tries updating i get the error.
Is there anything im really missing out on with kit kat? I want to install S view all covers and also want the XLTE. thats the main reasons for me wanting to update.
Is there something wrong with my phone? How can i get the update now? Thanks

Inovazn628 said:
Hey this is my first post and Im sorry if some of this is a repeat, I looked around for a little bit and wasnt able to find any answers.
I have a note 3 on verizon and i finally got it rooted on MJE. I have SuperSU installed as well as xposed installer as well as wanam xposed and a couple modules. I was trying to update via OTA and it constantly gives me error 402. I have tried hiding superuser and it says on odin? i believe that im on the offical rom and everything.
i just cant get onto kit kat no matter what i do. it downloads and once it tries updating i get the error.
Is there anything im really missing out on with kit kat? I want to install S view all covers and also want the XLTE. thats the main reasons for me wanting to update.
Is there something wrong with my phone? How can i get the update now? Thanks
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You need to be unrooted stock to accept the OTA. Currently no way to root the ota. However there is a kitkat build (nc2) that was rooted. This is the build that everyone is working off of, so you can just flash the firmware / nc2 rom and you will be on kitkat rooted.

Thanks for the reply!
I've heard of people still taking the Ota while keeping root by putting supersu on survival mode though. Should I check that off and then click unroot in Supersu to take the Ota? Thanks

sfld said:
You need to be unrooted stock to accept the OTA. Currently no way to root the ota. However there is a kitkat build (nc2) that was rooted. This is the build that everyone is working off of, so you can just flash the firmware / nc2 rom and you will be on kitkat rooted.
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You do NOT need to be unrooted, but you do need SuperSU to be in survival mode.
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donc113 said:
You do NOT need to be unrooted, but you do need SuperSU to be in survival mode.
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okay so whats seems to be the problem with my note 3 not updating then? Im pretty much lost haha. It reboots into recovery and then goes about 33% on updating before getting a error and restarting.

Inovazn628 said:
okay so whats seems to be the problem with my note 3 not updating then? Im pretty much lost haha. It reboots into recovery and then goes about 33% on updating before getting a error and restarting.
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Have you ever installed safestrap or anything similar?
Also remove all xposed modules, etc.
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Inovazn628 said:
Is there anything im really missing out on with kit kat? I want to install S view all covers and also want the XLTE. thats the main reasons for me wanting to update.
Is there something wrong with my phone? How can i get the update now? Thanks
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Try installing just the nc4 radio for xlte. Have you tried the leaked NC2 KK? I'd stay rooted personally ... samsung stuff has too much bloat and will run like a pig.

donc113 said:
Have you ever installed safestrap or anything similar?
Also remove all xposed modules, etc.
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Nope I just I have supersu. I disabled superuser and then I Uninstaller all the modules. I also uninstalled the framework for xposed. Is there anything else that could be causing it?

Inovazn628 said:
Nope I just I have supersu. I disabled superuser and then I Uninstaller all the modules. I also uninstalled the framework for xposed. Is there anything else that could be causing it?
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not that I know of.
You may have to reflash MJE and reroot it.
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ROOT+SuperSU+Xposed P605 4.4.2 without tripping KNOX

The why
A lot of this has been said in other threads, however I decided to gather all the up-to-date (as of Jun 17, 2014) instructions and info in this thread to alleviate fears of the infamous 'KNOX WARRANTY VOID 0x1' and help people with the process. People with tripped KNOX can of course use this as well, however it won't untrip their devices, duh.
The cheers
First of all big cheers for Pinkie Pie (person who discovered the Linux kernel vulnerability that makes rooting without tripping KNOX possible), geohot (person that used the vulnerability to make a rooting app), chainfire (developer of SuperSU), rovo89 and Tungstwenty (developers of Xposed). Go and donate to these guys if you can!
The what
This post will tell you how to upgrade your P605 to 4.4.2, if you haven't already. And how to install SuperSU and Xposed all the while keeping your KNOX counter at 0x0, CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official and SYSTEM STATUS: Official!
Note: The versions in this text are just for reference - telling you what versions already worked. New ones will surely also work, so you should usually download the newest available.
The how
Firmware
4.4.2 NEE P605XXUCNE2 (any of the current 4.4.2 firmwares should be fine, although Samsung might use an updated kernel for the future versions, disabling towelroot)
From http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53092676&postcount=1
Simple instructions available here http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=30325 (you can also download the firmware from here, but download is slow for free accounts)
Root
From http://towelroot.com
No special instructions (it's a 1-click root)
SuperSU
Version 1.99.rc5 from http://download.chainfire.eu/448/SuperSU/
Extract Superuser.apk (in 'common') from the zip, install and run
Answer yes to the Disable KNOX prompt (don't worry, KNOX will not be tripped)
Xposed
From http://repo.xposed.info/module/de.robv.android.xposed.installer (version 2.6.1)
No special instructions
The victory
Congrats! Now you should be on a rooted, SuperSUed, Xposed KitKat with warranty left intact! However before sending it to Samsung, e.g., for repairs, you should flash your original firmware, of course.

Can this be made to work with the SM-P600 on Android 4.3 unrooted? Any help will be appreciated. This would be a dream.

no.0ne said:
SuperSU
Version 1.94 from Google Play (Jun 17, 2014)
Answer yes to the Disable KNOX prompt (don't worry, KNOX will not be tripped)
At the end it will say it failed, however it will be working!
If you are annoyed by the 'failed' message for some reason, download an updated version from http://download.chainfire.eu/448/SuperSU/ (you'll have to flash it manually though) which supposedly fixes it.
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Just Download specified zip and extract superuser.apk from common folder and install as normal program, don't download play version

İ am gonna try and write my appreciate ) thanks in advance
It did work . Thanks to you and that steps i have rooted kitkat knox is 0*0 what i was waiting for last 5 months. Thank you so much now i can use my tablet in full capacity
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Eudeferrer said:
Can this be made to work with the SM-P600 on Android 4.3 unrooted? Any help will be appreciated. This would be a dream.
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It seems that so far people have had no success using towelroot on P600. Wait and hope it will change...

Hello, i want to do this on clean tablet, so i want to do clean install , how can i clean it all had before, from odin? And is nee nordic kitkat rom suitable for all p605 , i am frightened about boatloader problem and soft brick before i done i wanted to ask. Thanks in advance.

yararli said:
Hello, i want to do this on clean tablet, so i want to do clean install , how can i clean it all had before, from odin? And is nee nordic kitkat rom suitable for all p605 , i am frightened about boatloader problem and soft brick before i done i wanted to ask. Thanks in advance.
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You can wipe the tablet from recovery:
Turn tablet off
Turn it on holding Volume Up + Power Button until you see something on the screen
Wipe data/factory reset
Reboot
NEE will be fine for all P605, however I don't know if it works with something like P605V (US Verizon).

no.0ne said:
You can wipe the tablet from recovery:
Turn tablet off
Turn it on holding Volume Up + Power Button until you see something on the screen
Wipe data/factory reset
Reboot
NEE will be fine for all P605, however I don't know if it works with something like P605V (US Verizon).
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Should i do this before or after kitkat installation ? And where can i find usb installation of p605 when it is taken into download mode for pc to recognize the tablet.
I have no windows pc now im gonna do that on thursday ı was waiting this topic for 4 months thank you so much
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yararli said:
Should i do this before or after kitkat installation ? And where can i find usb installation of p605 when it is taken into download mode for pc to recognize the tablet.
I have no windows pc now im gonna do that on thursday ı was waiting this topic for 4 months thank you so much
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First you wipe then you flash
You can download the driver from the Samsung website, e.g., http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/SM-P605VZKEVZW (don't worry that it is on the US page, the driver is the same for all Samsung devices)
Glad I can help. I waited for root quite long myself :victory:

In the thread discussing towelroot on P605, people claimed installing xposed would change your binary to custom. That's holding me back for now, can you confirm that it stays official?

Matthias.ja said:
In the thread discussing towelroot on P605, people claimed installing xposed would change your binary to custom. That's holding me back for now, can you confirm that it stays official?
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It only makes it custom inside of the ROM. In download mode it shows Official. You can also use the Wanam xposed module to change it back to Official in the ROM.

valexi said:
It only makes it custom inside of the ROM. In download mode it shows Official. You can also use the Wanam xposed module to change it back to Official in the ROM.
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alright, thanks!
so if i have some warranty issues, wiping everything from recovery or re-flashing the unrooted stock ROM would make everything official again, right? I know I sound like a scared little girl, but I just really don't want to risk my warranty on this rather expensive device

Heyy its wonderful i did it but there is a problem about kitkat rom i saw a little lags and the biggest problem is whatsapp says it is not compatible with this device also twitter in playstore what should i do thnx for your all help
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valexi said:
It only makes it custom inside of the ROM. In download mode it shows Official. You can also use the Wanam xposed module to change it back to Official in the ROM.
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So i just tried and installed xposed, and funnily enough, my system status stayed official, even inside the ROM. I won't complain though..

Hello i should restore system defaults how should i do directly by using recovery mode can i clean systam cache and ... Or before it should i unroot from su?
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To make sure; unroot and then factory reset

Matthias.ja said:
So i just tried and installed xposed, and funnily enough, my system status stayed official, even inside the ROM. I won't complain though..
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As long using stock recovery and it will stay Official. Just custom recovery will give custom.

dt33 said:
As long using stock recovery and it will stay Official. Just custom recovery will give custom.
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No it doesn't. You dont seem to understand difference between "system status" in Download mode or inside of the ROM.
Here is couple of pictures to make you understand.
In the picture below you can see system status official. This will change, if you install CUSTOM ROM or CUSTOM RECOVERY. Towelroot does not change any of these data here:
In the picture below you can see Device status "custom". This can change to custom if you ROOT the device and/or install SuperSU or Xposed framework. This has NOTHING to do with the status in the Download mode as seen in the first picture.
I hope that people wouldn't mix these things, because they are rather easy to understand. Talking about things that you dont really understand will cause confusion and makes people asking more stupid questions.
Thank you!

valexi said:
No it doesn't. You dont seem to understand difference between "system status" in Download mode or inside of the ROM.
Here is couple of pictures to make you understand.
In the picture below you can see system status official. This will change, if you install CUSTOM ROM or CUSTOM RECOVERY. Towelroot does not change any of these data here:
In the picture below you can see Device status "custom". This can change to custom if you ROOT the device and/or install SuperSU or Xposed framework. This has NOTHING to do with the status in the Download mode as seen in the first picture.
I hope that people wouldn't mix these things, because they are rather easy to understand. Talking about things that you dont really understand will cause confusion and makes people asking more stupid questions.
Thank you!
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Pls, explain how come it stays Official after rooted with towelroot, installed SuperSu and Xposed?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53452193&postcount=33

dt33 said:
Pls, explain how come it stays Official after rooted with towelroot, installed SuperSu and Xposed?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53452193&postcount=33
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I'm not quite sure, but it seems that in some cases the ROM can detect if it's rooted.
For me it changed to "Custom" after rooting with towelroot and SuperSU installation. I changed it back to Official with Wanam xposed.

[SM-N910F][Lollipop] Everything stock w/ root?

Hello!
I wonder how the root situation looks right now for the Note 4. Is the easiest to use CF-AutoRoot? Only want root, no recovery.
I remember hearing back at the beginning about Xposed not working and rooting made the phone starting to lag, are these two issues fixed today?
Thanks in advance!

I really don't find my device lagging when rooted. And there is Xposed Framework for samsung lollipop in development Here. And more on Xposed Here. If you have KK then you can install stable release of Xposed.
Watch out for tripping Knox when rooting (you will lose your warranty). And make an nandroid backup before installing Xposed just in case.

themate1987 said:
I really don't find my device lagging when rooted. And there is Xposed Framework for samsung lollipop in development Here. And more on Xposed Here. If you have KK then you can install stable release of Xposed.
Watch out for tripping Knox when rooting (you will lose your warranty). And make an nandroid backup before installing Xposed just in case.
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Okay, thanks!
"watch out for tripping Knox when rooting" do you mean there is a way to only root without tripping Knox or do you mean I should be aware that it does trip Knox?

Root s7edge, exynos G935F

Hello to all.
I would like your kind advices and opinion on the following matter.
I have a stock s7edge, exynos variant (G935F).
I still have one year of warranty.
After the latest security updates and the fact that I can no longer install S8 apps, it got me thinking about rooting the phone.
I am fairly experienced in rooting phones and installing roms. As a matter of fact, all my previous phones are now rooted and updated to 7.1.2
My question is the following:
I do not want to install a new rom. I am happy with the stock one (at least for now ). I just want to root the phone in order to be able to have access to the system files and replace the apks etc.
Is it worth it?
If yes, how can I root the phone? (any guide with recovery files included etc?)
If I root the phone, what things will I miss and not be able to do? (Do I just lose KNOX and Samsung Pay?)
If I want to go back to unrooted state, is it easy, and how can I do it? (any guide with stock recovery included etc?)
Your kind assistance and opinions will be very much appreciated.
Thank you.

madvinegar said:
Hello to all.
I would like your kind advices and opinion on the following matter.
I have a stock s7edge, exynos variant (G935F).
I still have one year of warranty.
After the latest security updates and the fact that I can no longer install S8 apps, it got me thinking about rooting the phone.
I am fairly experienced in rooting phones and installing roms. As a matter of fact, all my previous phones are now rooted and updated to 7.1.2
My question is the following:
I do not want to install a new rom. I am happy with the stock one (at least for now ). I just want to root the phone in order to be able to have access to the system files and replace the apks etc.
Is it worth it?
If yes, how can I root the phone? (any guide with recovery files included etc?)
If I root the phone, what things will I miss and not be able to do? (Do I just lose KNOX and Samsung Pay?)
If I want to go back to unrooted state, is it easy, and how can I do it? (any guide with stock recovery included etc?)
Your kind assistance and opinions will be very much appreciated.
Thank you.
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Mate wrong thread.

Yes, sorry about that. A big thanx to the devs for moving it to the right thread.

So, I made a research and I believe that the best way to root my s7 edge is using Odin, then flashing the latest twrp recovery (3.1.1-0), and then by entering the recovery, to flash the latest SuperSU zip (v.2.82).
Do you agree? Or is it better to use Odin and then flash the CF-AutoRoot??
Also, if I want to un-root the phone, do I just have to flash via odin all the stock firmware files (CP, CSC, BL etc?). Will that also bring back the stock recovery and delete twrp?
Also, will the KNOX counter be triggered even if I unroot and return back to stock using the above method?
Final question is what will I miss if I root the phone? I suppose KNOX and Samsung Pay. Will everything else work as normal? Will I have any problem with the camera's performance?
I thank you very much in advance for your assistance.

madvinegar said:
So, I made a research and I believe that the best way to root my s7 edge is using Odin, then flashing the latest twrp recovery (3.1.1-0), and then by entering the recovery, to flash the latest SuperSU zip (v.2.82).
Do you agree? Or is it better to use Odin and then flash the CF-AutoRoot??
Also, if I want to un-root the phone, do I just have to flash via odin all the stock firmware files (CP, CSC, BL etc?). Will that also bring back the stock recovery and delete twrp?
Also, will the KNOX counter be triggered even if I unroot and return back to stock using the above method?
Final question is what will I miss if I root the phone? I suppose KNOX and Samsung Pay. Will everything else work as normal? Will I have any problem with the camera's performance?
I thank you very much in advance for your assistance.
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Hi
There is a guide here - http://www.droidviews.com/install-twrp-root-galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge-on-nougat-g935fxxu1dplt/
make sure you follow this guide EXACTLY
This is different from other phones!
The only thing you will miss is Knox and Samsung Pay correct everything else will work along with Magisk (hides root from apps such as AndroidPay/banking apps).
If you were to install a custom rom i suggest Superstock (current v2.8) As you can probably tell from the name its an improved stock with battery tweaks/camera tweaks etc
Yes when you flash TWRP KNOX is tripped and there is no going back what so ever even if you flash stock firmware and remove root knox will still be tripped so wave goodbye to knox.
if you did want to go back to normal yes just flash official stock firmware with odin this will remove root and twrp.
(knox will still be tripped though)
p.s you could skip supersu install if you are going to root via magisk instead
if you are unfamiliar with magisk etc i highly reccomend just installing a custom rom (such as the one i mentioned earlier) which comes with magisk already installed

EasyAndroidPro said:
Hi
There is a guide here - http://www.droidviews.com/install-twrp-root-galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge-on-nougat-g935fxxu1dplt/
make sure you follow this guide EXACTLY
This is different from other phones!
The only thing you will miss is Knox and Samsung Pay correct everything else will work along with Magisk (hides root from apps such as AndroidPay/banking apps).
If you were to install a custom rom i suggest Superstock (current v2.8) As you can probably tell from the name its an improved stock with battery tweaks/camera tweaks etc
Yes when you flash TWRP KNOX is tripped and there is no going back what so ever even if you flash stock firmware and remove root knox will still be tripped so wave goodbye to knox.
if you did want to go back to normal yes just flash official stock firmware with odin this will remove root and twrp.
(knox will still be tripped though)
p.s you could skip supersu install if you are going to root via magisk instead
if you are unfamiliar with magisk etc i highly reccomend just installing a custom rom (such as the one i mentioned earlier) which comes with magisk already installed
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First of all thank you so much for your kind reply, contents of which are noted.
To be honest, if I will flash a new rom, my first choise would be a full s8 port rom, like Konghloi's.
The only thing that worries me is what you said about KNOX not reseting even if I unroot and return to stock. I don't really care about the app itself (I think that even samsung will stop its development in order to propmote "secure folder". I am more concerned that I will lose my warranty since the dealers will know fore sure that the phone has been rooted at some point in the past.

madvinegar said:
First of all thank you so much for your kind reply, contents of which are noted.
To be honest, if I will flash a new rom, my first choise would be a full s8 port rom, like Konghloi's.
The only thing that worries me is what you said about KNOX not reseting even if I unroot and return to stock. I don't really care about the app itself (I think that even samsung will stop its development in order to propmote "secure folder". I am more concerned that I will lose my warranty since the dealers will know fore sure that the phone has been rooted at some point in the past.
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understood, having personally tried all the s8 ports already i reccommend ambasadii's S8 Port (Konghloi is a great Dev but past experiance the ROM's are infested with bugs) I'm currently dual-booting Roms and have ambasadii's as my secondary ROM
About the warranty... if you read the fine print samsungs warranty isn't worth a great deal. it will only cover you for an electrical or mechanical fault that is common with the device. (which if your savvy enough you can fix yourself anyway) it wont cover you for any accidental damage drops/water/cracks etc...
Also you can still take your device to an other dealer to fix your phone for you, they don't care what you've done to it (with payment ofc) just not Samsung.
you really have to weigh up both options
personally i think the chances of device failure is slim and easier/quicker to fix as long as its not an expensive fix like the LCD breaking (which if you dropped it and it broke your not covered anyway)
and the pros of rooting and custom roms heavily outweigh the cons of loosing knox and voiding warranty.
Edit: #Yolo

madvinegar said:
First of all thank you so much for your kind reply, contents of which are noted.
To be honest, if I will flash a new rom, my first choise would be a full s8 port rom, like Konghloi's.
The only thing that worries me is what you said about KNOX not reseting even if I unroot and return to stock. I don't really care about the app itself (I think that even samsung will stop its development in order to propmote "secure folder". I am more concerned that I will lose my warranty since the dealers will know fore sure that the phone has been rooted at some point in the past.
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BTW i have been receiving reports that with the latest stock update the package conflicts have gone....

EasyAndroidPro said:
BTW i have been receiving reports that with the latest stock update the package conflicts have gone....
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Latest stock update...? I have the May security patch and I still experience the conflicts.
You mean the June patch?

madvinegar said:
Latest stock update...? I have the May security patch and I still experience the conflicts.
You mean the June patch?
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This is what i received on my s8 aod thread
geshe said:
With latest system update (QF3 for my G9350), error 'conflicts with an existing package by the same name' when install S8 AOD apk (from apkmirror above) is gone now.
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polo2002 said:
me too G935FD
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That's just for certain versions of apps.
For example the new AOD apk can be installed without any problem, whilst the new samsung weather apks cannot be installed.

@EasyAndroidPro I would like your opinion for the following matter.
I came across this video on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUoVKH2zp3g
As you will see in the end of the video (at about 8:15), the guy who unrooted his s7 edge usin Odin, says (and shows) that the "warranty void : 0".
What figures...?

madvinegar said:
@EasyAndroidPro I would like your opinion for the following matter.
I came across this video on youtube:
As you will see in the end of the video (at about 8:15), the guy who unrooted his s7 edge usin Odin, says (and shows) that the "warranty void : 0".
What figures...?
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Didn't have chance to watch the whole video just skipped through bits but all he did was flash stock firmware... this will not reset your Knox counter and not give you warranty . He probably did not even root his phone lol all he did was update it. Also I think there is a way to root without tripping Knox but as soon as you flash twrp or custom Rom Knox is triggered.
It will unroot your phone but it will not get your warranty back once it has been voided. Knox is an e-fuse once you break it there's no going back unless you replace hardware
Edit: Here is some info from Wikipedia:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Knox
Here is some answered questions about Knox
https://androidforums.com/threads/virgin-mobile-guide-q-a-myths-and-truths-about-knox.807185/