I'm a little bit confused right now, supposedly rooting does not prevent you from getting OTAs, but having a custom kernel does, but having root is not having a custom kernel?
Having TWRP prevents me from getting OTAS? if I reflash the stock recovery will I lose root?
Sorry for the noob questions
They are using staged rollouts of the ota.
So people won't be getting it at the same time. This is so the servers won't be overloaded, and they can delay it if lots of issues arise
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You need stock recovery, thats what going to do the OTA update for you. It won't remove root, but the OTA update will remove your root, you can use SuperSU paid app to save root through OTAs.
eksasol said:
You need stock recovery, thats what going to do the OTA update for you. It won't remove root, but the OTA update will remove your root, you can use SuperSU paid app to save root through OTAs.
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Ok, thanks! I wil make sure to save my root before I update my phone, but I still don't know what root really does to the system, if it's not a custom close to stock kernel, then what is it?
I think this will answer your question easier what root does: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superuser
The customization is base on how you intend to use root to customize to your phone. You want to stay stock as much as possible if you want to receive OTAs.
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I can't find a simple answer on this. I just want to root my stock ROM, can't be done without unlocking the bootloader, but will I lose OTA if I do that.
Thanks
You won't get updates if you have a custom recovery. Rooting it will not deny you updates.
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Sweet. I have root, stock recovery. no problemo
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You won't get updates if you have a custom recovery. Rooting it will not deny you updates.
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There was another thread on here about the same topic where someone said that even with a custom recovery you can install the update and that CWM will ask if you want to keep root after installing the OTA.
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You won't get updates if you have a custom recovery. Rooting it will not deny you updates.
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What?
You get updates with a custom recovery.
I use CWM. I got an update, said install, CWM popped up, installed it, and asked if I wanted to keep root and the custom recovery. I said yes, and magic ensued.
ace7196 said:
What?
You get updates with a custom recovery.
I use CWM. I got an update, said install, CWM popped up, installed it, and asked if I wanted to keep root and the custom recovery. I said yes, and magic ensued.
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Confirmed. You do get updates when using CWM.
Install "OTA Rootkeeper" and you will keep your root after updates.
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sorry about re-questioning this:
I only want to root just to be able to use titanium backup to move data from one phone to another; are the OTA still gonna work? I dont intend to flash any custom rom for the moment.
thanks.
ultimul said:
sorry about re-questioning this:
I only want to root just to be able to use titanium backup to move data from one phone to another; are the OTA still gonna work? I dont intend to flash any custom rom for the moment.
thanks.
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Seems so.
it is phone encryption gonna work after root?
yes, no reason why not?
ultimul said:
sorry about re-questioning this:
I only want to root just to be able to use titanium backup to move data from one phone to another; are the OTA still gonna work? I dont intend to flash any custom rom for the moment.
thanks.
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Hi Ultimul, did you try rooting finally and are you receiving the OTA after rooting and with CWM.
Advice me as I have the same ambition to root just to back up app data but not install custom rom.
Got a new S4. First time I start up, it asks if I want to install OTA update. Will this stop me from rooting the device after? If I root first, can I apply the update after root? What has been the best practice?
Still extremely easy to root the mdl update
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Agree. Take the update and then easily install custom recovery/kernel/root without to much trouble.
easy to root with MDL easy to revert back to stock. Ultra noobs :silly: with no patience who can't read would be the only people I could think of that could brick this install...
Ok I'll break it down to it's most easy form. Rooting MDL involves this:
1) Take the update from sprint. That will get you to all MDL (radio, rom and kernel)
2) flash a custom recovery. I really don't care which.
3) flash a custom kernel. Shabbys works well.
4) flash busybox/supersu zips
5) profit.
It's not hard to root MDL. if you think this is hard you should have tried rooting the HTC 4g LTE. with a locked bootloader. THAT was hard.
Oh, so even if we accepted the OTA, everything is fine? I thought there was a kernel issue?
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eyecon82 said:
Oh, so even if we accepted the OTA, everything is fine? I thought there was a kernel issue?
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There is, hence why rawintellect stated that you need to "flash a custom kernel."
Ordered my Nexus 4 a few days ago and it should be arriving tomorrow. My only question is, if I unlock the bootloader, root it, and install a recovery, etc. but I do not flash a custom ROM, leaving the phone just on stock 4.2.2,
Will I will still be able to check for OTA updates/install them?
mch277 said:
Ordered my Nexus 4 a few days ago and it should be arriving tomorrow. My only question is, if I unlock the bootloader, root it, and install a recovery, etc. but I do not flash a custom ROM, leaving the phone just on stock 4.2.2,
Will I will still be able to check for OTA updates/install them?
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Yes, if you have root but still on the stock rom, kernel and recovery you can download and install the OTA but you will have to reroot again afterwards.
Read this also http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848.
gee2012 said:
Yes, if you have root but still on the stock rom, kernel and recovery you can download and install the OTA but you will have to reroot again afterwards.
Read this also http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848.
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You can have a custom recovery and twrp will re-root your phone after the update
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You can have a custom recovery and twrp will re-root your phone after the update
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Yes, but for if the OP only has root and for the rest everything stock.
Better to not take otas anyways. Everytime you take a ota you risk having your phone locked by some patch they slide in via ota. Meaning you cant use the previous methods to reroot or unlock. Since your going through all the trouble of rooting. Just wait the 30mins it takes someone to make a recovery flash out of it. Its why you have a custom recovery on there in the first place. Plus its much less work lol
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RomsWell said:
Better to not take otas anyways. Everytime you take a ota you risk having your phone locked by some patch they slide in via ota. Meaning you cant use the previous methods to reroot or unlock. Since your going through all the trouble of rooting. Just wait the 30mins it takes someone to make a recovery flash out of it. Its why you have a custom recovery on there in the first place. Plus its much less work lol
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This is a NEXUS we don't need a exploit to gain root just unlock and push or flash SU. All nexus use the same method to root. No ota will change that
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Ah. Didn't notice the device lol. Thats my auto response to a ota thread.
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Hello!
I recently had Xposed Framework installed. I uninstalled it to get my phone ready for the Android 4.4 OTA.
I have a STOCK ROOTED Nexus 4 with CWM Recovery (Bootloader: Unlocked).
I wanted to download the Android 4.4 OTA once it is released.
Based on what I understand, there are two ways (that I prefer) of receiving this:
1> Unroot the phone and put stock recovery. I had a question with this method:
a: Would I need to lock the bootloader to install the OTA? If yes, on locking would I loose my data?
2> Flashing a binary that would be released on the Google website. I also had a few questions related to this:
a: Would I loose my data if I did so?
b: Do I need to make any changes to my Stock Rooted Nexus 4 with CWM Recovery to follow this method?
Which method would you follow? Or do you have a better method? Please help me out :laugh:
Thank You!
Just go to the ota help desk here on xda and once the ota is being released they will put it in a zip file and you will be able to install it in recovery without losing any data, so just like a normal ota.
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Thibaultvw said:
Just go to the ota help desk here on xda and once the ota is being released they will put it in a zip file and you will be able to install it in recovery without losing any data, so just like a normal ota.
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That's great. But what if I want to install the OTA? Wouldn't installing something from the OTA Helpdesk void the warranty?
ak****soota said:
That's great. But what if I want to install the OTA? Wouldn't installing something from the OTA Helpdesk void the warranty?
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No................................................................. this isn't a Samsung phone.
Can anyone confirm you need to unroot or not to receive OTA? (I have never bothered with it since flashing roms). Just make sure you're running unrooted stock rom that is odexed, stock kernel and stock recovery, as far as I know.
If you flash the factory firmware from Google it will wipe out everything, including your /sdcard/ partition. You could wait for a 'stock rom' that is flashable by custom recovery, these don't delete your /sdcard while flashing, these (unrooted odexed) roms should still be able to receive OTA (correct me if I'm wrong).
Yes u will have to unroot to receive OTA.
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ak****soota said:
Hello!
I recently had Xposed Framework installed. I uninstalled it to get my phone ready for the Android 4.4 OTA.
I have a STOCK ROOTED Nexus 4 with CWM Recovery (Bootloader: Unlocked).
I wanted to download the Android 4.4 OTA once it is released.
Based on what I understand, there are two ways (that I prefer) of receiving this:
1> Unroot the phone and put stock recovery. I had a question with this method:
a: Would I need to lock the bootloader to install the OTA? If yes, on locking would I loose my data?
2> Flashing a binary that would be released on the Google website. I also had a few questions related to this:
a: Would I loose my data if I did so?
b: Do I need to make any changes to my Stock Rooted Nexus 4 with CWM Recovery to follow this method?
Which method would you follow? Or do you have a better method? Please help me out :laugh:
Thank You!
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I see so many of these threads and then I see the I bricked my phone going back to stock threads next. Please if you enjoy root and the features it brings you just relax and wait out the update. Your favorite developer will then create a nice new KitKat version with your updates and customizations. Of course do what you like but to unroot and get rid of your custom rom to have stock and then re root to try and get the same effect again just sounds crazy too me.
Patience is a virtue
Edit: but your question is what route to take just so you know there are back to stock threads which would be your best bet to follow if you honestly feel like doing all that to undo it later....
I did some searching of the forums, but didn't find what I was looking for. I have an AT&T S4, currently on the MDL firmware and rooted with TWRP. So that puts me two updates behind now and I'd really like to update.
So the question is, what would be the best way to go about updating to the latest official firmware, while retaining root? I can do without recovery if necessary, but I really want to keep root. I'd prefer to do this in a way where I avoid having to do a clean install and back up everything, then restore. I'd like to update in a way that keeps settings and applications as they are, as an official OTA update would do.
Is this possible?
Stay where you are and run a custom firmware!
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Stay where you are and run a custom firmware!
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I thought about it, but I actually like the Touchwiz ROMs, as odd as it may sound.
Why you flash a custom touch wiz rom? Trust me, only being able to root in a still sketchy/kinda legimate way is not worth it
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HiTideBlastoise said:
Why you flash a custom touch wiz rom? Trust me, only being able to root in a still sketchy/kinda legimate way is not worth it
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I want the official Samsung update, just with root capability. So that I can still use programs which require root (such as TitaniumBackup, Avast's Anti-Theft, AdAway, GameKiller, etc.). I've seen on the forums that people have proceeded to the latest update while retaining their root, but I haven't found how yet.
Gamer_Josh said:
I want the official Samsung update, just with root capability. So that I can still use programs which require root (such as TitaniumBackup, Avast's Anti-Theft, AdAway, GameKiller, etc.). I've seen on the forums that people have proceeded to the latest update while retaining their root, but I haven't found how yet.
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try this if you want to get back to 100% stock and update : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33953446&postcount=1 . Works on most Samsung devices
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I want the official Samsung update, just with root capability. So that I can still use programs which require root (such as TitaniumBackup, Avast's Anti-Theft, AdAway, GameKiller, etc.). I've seen on the forums that people have proceeded to the latest update while retaining their root, but I haven't found how yet.
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Just wait, run StockUp, or a 4.3 rom for the international version. If you want Touchwiz, you can get one of those and if you really want the OTA wait until someone creates a version that doesn't update your bootloader so you can still have the option to change. If you really do want it, then flash the stock firmware and go through the updates, making sure you root after you get MF3 and then use SuperSU survival before updating to MK2.
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Just wait, run StockUp, or a 4.3 rom for the international version. If you want Touchwiz, you can get one of those and if you really want the OTA wait until someone creates a version that doesn't update your bootloader so you can still have the option to change. If you really do want it, then flash the stock firmware and go through the updates, making sure you root after you get MF3 and then use SuperSU survival before updating to MK2.
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Is there now a way to retain root when updating from MDL to MF3 via OTA? Becuase I already am stock, I just need to unfreeze the files that allow for OTA updating.
Yes there is a way.use Supersu pro and enable Survival mode and it will retain root .we would all move the world to go back to MDL is why people are trying to persuade you to use a rom. (ENVY)
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