Got a new S4. First time I start up, it asks if I want to install OTA update. Will this stop me from rooting the device after? If I root first, can I apply the update after root? What has been the best practice?
Still extremely easy to root the mdl update
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Agree. Take the update and then easily install custom recovery/kernel/root without to much trouble.
easy to root with MDL easy to revert back to stock. Ultra noobs :silly: with no patience who can't read would be the only people I could think of that could brick this install...
Ok I'll break it down to it's most easy form. Rooting MDL involves this:
1) Take the update from sprint. That will get you to all MDL (radio, rom and kernel)
2) flash a custom recovery. I really don't care which.
3) flash a custom kernel. Shabbys works well.
4) flash busybox/supersu zips
5) profit.
It's not hard to root MDL. if you think this is hard you should have tried rooting the HTC 4g LTE. with a locked bootloader. THAT was hard.
Oh, so even if we accepted the OTA, everything is fine? I thought there was a kernel issue?
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eyecon82 said:
Oh, so even if we accepted the OTA, everything is fine? I thought there was a kernel issue?
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There is, hence why rawintellect stated that you need to "flash a custom kernel."
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Hey I'm new to the forums but been reading them for a while and I just have a question with OTA updates. I have a nexus 4 that's been rooted and have clockwork mod. I have also flashed the .33 baseband on 4.2.2. I have stock rom but Franco kernel however I backed up the stock kernel with his updater app.
I know I can't OTA with the kernel but flashing the stock one is no big deal. Can I OTA with the rest being on there?
Also if I do the lte wifi hotspot fix will that stop the OTA update as well?
Thanks in advance.
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As long you have clockwork mod on the rom you can not OTA...its always going to be manual way of flashing the OTA and that process will remove clockwork mod but using apps like voodoo keeps you rooted so you can easily install clockwork mod again after the update.
No Recovery+Stock ROM+Stock Kernel+Stock Latest Radio= auto OTA update.
I hope that made sense..but i could be wrong but that's what works for me.
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Hey I'm new to the forums but been reading them for a while and I just have a question with OTA updates. I have a nexus 4 that's been rooted and have clockwork mod. I have also flashed the .33 baseband on 4.2.2. I have stock rom but Franco kernel however I backed up the stock kernel with his updater app.
I know I can't OTA with the kernel but flashing the stock one is no big deal. Can I OTA with the rest being on there?
Also if I do the lte wifi hotspot fix will that stop the OTA update as well?
Thanks in advance.
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You CAN ota if you have a custom recovery.
However, the WiFi hotspot fix will kill it.
I made a guide with all the info you need. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848
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So if anything is modded at all except for basic root I won't be able to apply the update that arrives to my phone directly right? I will have to flash it in cwm? I assume I will have to wipe cache and such before I apply the zip right?
Do I have to revert anything back stock or can I just flash the zip directly over what I have now and just re apply the kernel and baseband?
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Sorry one more thing with the latest SU I will stay rooted I think but I will lose cwm and have to re obtain it or will I keep it if survival mode is checked?
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Helderg1984 said:
Sorry one more thing with the latest SU I will stay rooted I think but I will lose cwm and have to re obtain it or will I keep it if survival mode is checked?
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If you flash it from CWM then you will keep CWM and also keep root (if you say yes when it asks you).
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Sorry I am a bit confused still, when I get the update.zip and flash it in CWM do I have to wipe or no? and if I don't will everything stay the same? or will I lose my 0.33 baseband and kernel? I'm also wanting to do the lte hotspot fix so would I lose that too?
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If you flash it from CWM then you will keep CWM and also keep root (if you say yes when it asks you).
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Helderg1984 said:
Sorry I am a bit confused still, when I get the update.zip and flash it in CWM do I have to wipe or no? and if I don't will everything stay the same? or will I lose my 0.33 baseband and kernel? I'm also wanting to do the lte hotspot fix so would I lose that too?
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You don't have to wipe.It does not matter if you wipe or not, you will still lose your base band, you'll just have to flash the old baseband again. As for the kernel if the ota comes with a new kernel your old stock kernel will be replaced with the new one in the ota.
You actually can accept a ota update with a custom recovery but you have to be stock everything else, no other mods or anything. The ota will install fine and youll see that it goes through your custom recovery when updating. After the update you will lose root and your custom recovery however unless you recovery someone holds onto it.
As I know, we need to modify something after installing custom recovery. Else, stock recovery will be installed upon reboot. So even after modifying, OTA still works ?
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You actually can accept a ota update with a custom recovery but you have to be stock everything else, no other mods or anything. The ota will install fine and youll see that it goes through your custom recovery when updating. After the update you will lose root and your custom recovery however unless you recovery someone holds onto it.
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So bascially no matter what i have on the phone update.zip will go through fine and put on the phone what it contains and it's up to me to put everything back? Also I've heard mixed opinions if I will lose root and CWM, mostly people say it will give me an option to keep it after applyng the update.
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You don't have to wipe.It does not matter if you wipe or not, you will still lose your base band, you'll just have to flash the old baseband again. As for the kernel if the ota comes with a new kernel your old stock kernel will be replaced with the new one in the ota.
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heat361 said:
You don't have to wipe.It does not matter if you wipe or not, you will still lose your base band, you'll just have to flash the old baseband again. As for the kernel if the ota comes with a new kernel your old stock kernel will be replaced with the new one in the ota.
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Everything about this post is incorrect.
I don't mean to be a jerk but I've seen you post a lot of false info lately. I know you'd like to help, but it only confuses people when they see contradictory info.
Helderg1984 said:
So bascially no matter what i have on the phone update.zip will go through fine and put on the phone what it contains and it's up to me to put everything back? Also I've heard mixed opinions if I will lose root and CWM, mostly people say it will give me an option to keep it after applying the update.
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Just read the thread I linked earlier. It has answers to your questions.
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El Daddy said:
Everything about this post is incorrect.
I don't mean to be a jerk but I've seen you post a lot of false info lately. I know you'd like to help, but it only confuses people when they see contradictory info.
Just read the thread I l
Can you tell me what's wrong with what I said? I was assuming he was on stock rooted with a custom recovery. Is it not true that if you get an ota update and it contains a new baseband and new stock kernel it will overwrite the last last stock kernel and baseband.
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El Daddy said:
Everything about this post is incorrect.
I don't mean to be a jerk but I've seen you post a lot of false info lately. I know you'd like to help, but it only confuses people when they see contradictory info.
Just read the thread I l
Can you tell me what's wrong with what I said? I was assuming he was on stock rooted with a custom recovery. Is it not true that if you get an ota update and it contains a new baseband and new stock kernel it will overwrite the last last stock kernel and baseband.
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No it doesn't overwrite anything. It just fails.
OTA's contain patches. Not complete files. If the original file isn't there it will abort.
I can see how this can be confusing because it is different from custom roms.
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But thats only if he has the lte fix right. So if he just flashes a stock kernel without that patch, the ota could work.
For example the stock boot.img
I'm rooted with cwm, custom kernel and old baseband, stock rom. I mean I can very easily revert my kernel back to stock and flash the newest baseband.
The only thing is there's a bunch of stuff I might want to do more but don't want to make it hard to update since it's important to me.
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heat361 said:
But thats only if he has the lte fix right. So if he just flashes a stock kernel without that patch, the ota could work.
For example the stock boot.img
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Yep. The phone needs to be 100% stock with the exception of the recovery to complete the OTA. If the files,kernel,radio, etc. are replaced to the original state you'd be good to go.
PS. Sorry if I came off as a jerk this morning. I had a case of the Mondays.
Helderg1984 said:
I'm rooted with cwm, custom kernel and old baseband, stock rom. I mean I can very easily revert my kernel back to stock and flash the newest baseband.
The only thing is there's a bunch of stuff I might want to do more but don't want to make it hard to update since it's important to me.
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Just as I wrote above, You can do as many modifications as you want, just make sure you bring the phone back to stock before you flash the OTA.zip, otherwise it will fail.
When the new OTA comes out I will update my OTA Help-Desk thread with all the new requirements.
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So bascially no matter what i have on the phone update.zip will go through fine and put on the phone what it contains and it's up to me to put everything back? Also I've heard mixed opinions if I will lose root and CWM, mostly people say it will give me an option to keep it after applyng the update.
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Just watch this its eazy as 1 2 3!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky5miA8ilr0
Ordered my Nexus 4 a few days ago and it should be arriving tomorrow. My only question is, if I unlock the bootloader, root it, and install a recovery, etc. but I do not flash a custom ROM, leaving the phone just on stock 4.2.2,
Will I will still be able to check for OTA updates/install them?
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Ordered my Nexus 4 a few days ago and it should be arriving tomorrow. My only question is, if I unlock the bootloader, root it, and install a recovery, etc. but I do not flash a custom ROM, leaving the phone just on stock 4.2.2,
Will I will still be able to check for OTA updates/install them?
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Yes, if you have root but still on the stock rom, kernel and recovery you can download and install the OTA but you will have to reroot again afterwards.
Read this also http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848.
gee2012 said:
Yes, if you have root but still on the stock rom, kernel and recovery you can download and install the OTA but you will have to reroot again afterwards.
Read this also http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848.
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You can have a custom recovery and twrp will re-root your phone after the update
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You can have a custom recovery and twrp will re-root your phone after the update
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Yes, but for if the OP only has root and for the rest everything stock.
Better to not take otas anyways. Everytime you take a ota you risk having your phone locked by some patch they slide in via ota. Meaning you cant use the previous methods to reroot or unlock. Since your going through all the trouble of rooting. Just wait the 30mins it takes someone to make a recovery flash out of it. Its why you have a custom recovery on there in the first place. Plus its much less work lol
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RomsWell said:
Better to not take otas anyways. Everytime you take a ota you risk having your phone locked by some patch they slide in via ota. Meaning you cant use the previous methods to reroot or unlock. Since your going through all the trouble of rooting. Just wait the 30mins it takes someone to make a recovery flash out of it. Its why you have a custom recovery on there in the first place. Plus its much less work lol
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This is a NEXUS we don't need a exploit to gain root just unlock and push or flash SU. All nexus use the same method to root. No ota will change that
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Ah. Didn't notice the device lol. Thats my auto response to a ota thread.
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Hello!
I recently had Xposed Framework installed. I uninstalled it to get my phone ready for the Android 4.4 OTA.
I have a STOCK ROOTED Nexus 4 with CWM Recovery (Bootloader: Unlocked).
I wanted to download the Android 4.4 OTA once it is released.
Based on what I understand, there are two ways (that I prefer) of receiving this:
1> Unroot the phone and put stock recovery. I had a question with this method:
a: Would I need to lock the bootloader to install the OTA? If yes, on locking would I loose my data?
2> Flashing a binary that would be released on the Google website. I also had a few questions related to this:
a: Would I loose my data if I did so?
b: Do I need to make any changes to my Stock Rooted Nexus 4 with CWM Recovery to follow this method?
Which method would you follow? Or do you have a better method? Please help me out :laugh:
Thank You!
Just go to the ota help desk here on xda and once the ota is being released they will put it in a zip file and you will be able to install it in recovery without losing any data, so just like a normal ota.
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Thibaultvw said:
Just go to the ota help desk here on xda and once the ota is being released they will put it in a zip file and you will be able to install it in recovery without losing any data, so just like a normal ota.
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That's great. But what if I want to install the OTA? Wouldn't installing something from the OTA Helpdesk void the warranty?
ak****soota said:
That's great. But what if I want to install the OTA? Wouldn't installing something from the OTA Helpdesk void the warranty?
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No................................................................. this isn't a Samsung phone.
Can anyone confirm you need to unroot or not to receive OTA? (I have never bothered with it since flashing roms). Just make sure you're running unrooted stock rom that is odexed, stock kernel and stock recovery, as far as I know.
If you flash the factory firmware from Google it will wipe out everything, including your /sdcard/ partition. You could wait for a 'stock rom' that is flashable by custom recovery, these don't delete your /sdcard while flashing, these (unrooted odexed) roms should still be able to receive OTA (correct me if I'm wrong).
Yes u will have to unroot to receive OTA.
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ak****soota said:
Hello!
I recently had Xposed Framework installed. I uninstalled it to get my phone ready for the Android 4.4 OTA.
I have a STOCK ROOTED Nexus 4 with CWM Recovery (Bootloader: Unlocked).
I wanted to download the Android 4.4 OTA once it is released.
Based on what I understand, there are two ways (that I prefer) of receiving this:
1> Unroot the phone and put stock recovery. I had a question with this method:
a: Would I need to lock the bootloader to install the OTA? If yes, on locking would I loose my data?
2> Flashing a binary that would be released on the Google website. I also had a few questions related to this:
a: Would I loose my data if I did so?
b: Do I need to make any changes to my Stock Rooted Nexus 4 with CWM Recovery to follow this method?
Which method would you follow? Or do you have a better method? Please help me out :laugh:
Thank You!
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I see so many of these threads and then I see the I bricked my phone going back to stock threads next. Please if you enjoy root and the features it brings you just relax and wait out the update. Your favorite developer will then create a nice new KitKat version with your updates and customizations. Of course do what you like but to unroot and get rid of your custom rom to have stock and then re root to try and get the same effect again just sounds crazy too me.
Patience is a virtue
Edit: but your question is what route to take just so you know there are back to stock threads which would be your best bet to follow if you honestly feel like doing all that to undo it later....
I've been putting it off for a while. I'm flashed to cwm and still on TouchWiz. Is there a particular method to doing this system update? I want to get on kitkat and keep my root, or at least be able to get root access again afterwards.
Goes look in development section. .unknown has a stock rooted...random has a stock unrooted that's easy to root
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ibcenu said:
Goes look in development section. .unknown has a stock rooted...random has a stock unrooted that's easy to root
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I don't know what this means, in particular. Can you link me to something? I ran cyanogenmod up to 11 when my s3 died and have been out of the community for a bit. I just want to put the OTA kitkat update onto my phone and then get root.
nickgenova said:
I've been putting it off for a while. I'm flashed to cwm and still on TouchWiz. Is there a particular method to doing this system update? I want to get on kitkat and keep my root, or at least be able to get root access again afterwards.
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You can get on kitkat if you flash a kitkat rom or by odining stock NAE tar file (Please note that this will give you knox bootloader). If you visit Sacs Custom Rom 4.4.2 kitkat rom (link in my signature below). It will explain how to go from a previous version to his kitkat rom.
Basically, in a nutshell...you need to have the NAE modem (which is explained in the thread) and specific recoveries to use during flashing. Visit the thread to find out more
Hi,
I bought a S5 (at&t unlocked) for my son from ebay for Christmas. It is on Kitkat.
When i check via At&t software update I got this each time "Software Update Interrupted" and i have to try again in 24h. I factory-reset the phone several time and got same message.
I tried with Kies and it says I have the latest firmware. Version is G900AUCU2AOA2
My son wanted the S5 because it has Lollipop.
How can i get it? Using Odin? If so please tell me how to do it. Thank you in advance.
Root the phone by using Towelroot or Chainfire. Flash a custom recovery using Odin. I suggest Philz Touch or TWRP. Then download any stock or custom lollipop rom from the AT&T section of this forum and flash it using the custom recovery. Here is the link to the AT&T section of this forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/development
All of the information you're looking for is there. You can also flash International version Roms on your phone. JUST MAKE SURE WHATEVER YOU FLASH IS SPECIFIC TO YOUR PHONES MODEL OR YOU WILL BRICK IT! You can find your model phone by going to "Settings" and "About Phone". Start there and follow this order.
1.) Root phone
2.) Flash Custom Recovery
3.) Flash Rom of choice.
There are plenty of YouTube videos that will show you how to do everything step-by-step. Just do a little research and the best advice I can give you is make sure whatever you flash on your phone it says it's for your model phone.
Hope this helps
ddomingues said:
Root the phone by using Towelroot or Chainfire. Flash a custom recovery using Odin. I suggest Philz Touch or TWRP. Then download any stock or custom lollipop rom from the AT&T section of this forum and flash it using the custom recovery. Here is the link to the AT&T section of this forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/development
All of the information you're looking for is there. You can also flash International version Roms on your phone. JUST MAKE SURE WHATEVER YOU FLASH IS SPECIFIC TO YOUR PHONES MODEL OR YOU WILL BRICK IT! You can find your model phone by going to "Settings" and "About Phone". Start there and follow this order.
1.) Root phone
2.) Flash Custom Recovery
3.) Flash Rom of choice.
There are plenty of YouTube videos that will show you how to do everything step-by-step. Just do a little research and the best advice I can give you is make sure whatever you flash on your phone it says it's for your model phone.
Hope this helps
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This is completely and entirely innacurate. If root means nothing to you the att s5 section on xda has the stock files and instructions on how to manually apply the 5.0 ota, as well as how to root KitKat and how to update to a rooted lollipop. Do not try to flash any custom recoveries, you will brick the phone.
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Rakuu said:
This is completely and entirely innacurate. If root means nothing to you the att s5 section on xda has the stock files and instructions on how to manually apply the 5.0 ota, as well as how to root KitKat and how to update to a rooted lollipop. Do not try to flash any custom recoveries, you will brick the phone.
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How is that completely and entirely inaccurate? There are different methods to updating or flashing your phone. Yes you can use Odin to flash the 5.0 ota. IMO I find it much easier to have a custom recovery installed that way it makes it much easier to flash updates or roms in the future especially if you decide to root. Everyone has their methods. But flashing a custom recovery WILL NOT brick your phone IF you flash the correct recovery. That's simply an option to the OP and it's completely up to him what route he wants to take to do this. So before you comment on someone's post and say it's completely and entirely inaccurate remember that's solely from your point of view.
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How is that completely and entirely inaccurate? There are different methods to updating or flashing your phone. Yes you can use Odin to flash the 5.0 ota. IMO I find it much easier to have a custom recovery installed that way it makes it much easier to flash updates or roms in the future especially if you decide to root. Everyone has their methods. But flashing a custom recovery WILL NOT brick your phone IF you flash the correct recovery. That's simply an option to the OP and it's completely up to him what route he wants to take to do this. So before you comment on someone's post and say it's completely and entirely inaccurate remember that's solely from your point of view.
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Except there is no "correct recovery" for the g900a other than safestrap, I have the device I think I might know what I'm talking about. Nothing I said was opinionated, its all straight facts you can even check for yourself.
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Except there is no "correct recovery" for the g900a other than safestrap, I have the device I think I might know what I'm talking about. Nothing I said was opinionated, its all straight facts you can even check for yourself.
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Okay. So you just answered the question. There is a "correct recovery". Safestrap.
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Okay. So you just answered the question. There is a "correct recovery". Safestrap.
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It is only kind of a recovery, it doesn't replace the stock one and only fully works on KK and, requires you to be already rooted.
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I guess the easiest way would be Rakuu's method if you're not too tech savvy by just flashing the 5.0 ota with Odin but if you want to get the phone rooted and play around with custom roms you can flash Safestrap. All up to you but if it were me, I would Root the phone and flash a prerooted Lollipop firmware that way you can always leave yourself open to options in the future. There are a ton of people out there that wish they could get their hands on a g900a on KitKat solely for rooting and modding purposes lol