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Wi-Fi problem

I have a problem, when I turn Wi-Fi on the whole unit becomes unresponsive. I cannot open almost any program, the DVP runs slow and freezes.
If I turnt it off is back to normal.
Anyone else is having this issue?
I got 2 units, one of them has ths problem, the other one does not.
They are both 16gb.

I am not getting as many issues as you but the WiFi does seem a bit more problematic than the WiFi on the HD7. The only lockups that I have seen have been when I am on WiFi. Also the Venue Pro seems to have a harder time staying connected to the WiFi than the HD7 on the same network.

palmbluetooth said:
I have a problem, when I turn Wi-Fi on the whole unit becomes unresponsive. I cannot open almost any program, the DVP runs slow and freezes.
If I turnt it off is back to normal.
Anyone else is having this issue?
I got 2 units, one of them has ths problem, the other one does not.
They are both 16gb.
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Same issue here. They are sending me a replacement unit. Should be here tomorrow. Hopefully it will fix most of the bugs I have noticed on the phone.

Damionix said:
Same issue here. They are sending me a replacement unit. Should be here tomorrow. Hopefully it will fix most of the bugs I have noticed on the phone.
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That's good.
I wonder if the replacement unit has any software updates or not.
I compared the 2 units I have and they are all identical software versions.

Do both phones have the same build date? You can find it on the box.
My 8GB has been working fine over WiFi and has a build date of 12/15/10.

Yes, both have the same date 12/14/2010.

palmbluetooth said:
I have a problem, when I turn Wi-Fi on the whole unit becomes unresponsive. I cannot open almost any program, the DVP runs slow and freezes.
If I turnt it off is back to normal.
Anyone else is having this issue?
I got 2 units, one of them has ths problem, the other one does not.
They are both 16gb.
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my build date is 12/17 and I do not see the problem. In fact the WiFi is working quite nicely,shifting from AP to AP as I move around.
Only problem I'm seeing is a slight lag in the browser. I would wager this comes from loading and unloading pages...

palmbluetooth said:
Yes, both have the same date 12/14/2010.
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Same apps installed on both?

Mine was built 12/17 (16GB) and is exhibiting the freezing while on WiFi. I don't think it's a batch issue. Perhaps it's the encryption type. I use WPA2 and I have the WiFi-freezing-the-phone problem.

alodar1 said:
my build date is 12/17 and I do not see the problem. In fact the WiFi is working quite nicely,shifting from AP to AP as I move around.
Only problem I'm seeing is a slight lag in the browser. I would wager this comes from loading and unloading pages...
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no encryption, mac address, WEP, WPA, WPA2 ?

mrancier said:
Mine was built 12/17 (16GB) and is exhibiting the freezing while on WiFi. I don't think it's a batch issue. Perhaps it's the encryption type. I use WPA2 and I have the WiFi-freezing-the-phone problem.
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I use WPA2 as well and don't have the freezing problem.

pjfan75 said:
I use WPA2 as well and don't have the freezing problem.
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That would only leave hardware failure. Man, that sucks.

mrancier said:
That would only leave hardware failure. Man, that sucks.
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Have you tried doing a system reset on the phone and not installing any apps? Still have the problem?

pjfan75 said:
Have you tried doing a system reset on the phone and not installing any apps? Still have the problem?
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Yes indeed. still no go.

I noticed yesterday while Wi-Fi is enabled, and music is playing through your speakers (haven't tried via headphones), the music skips for a second then continues playing. This happens repeatedly if you're listening to music for awhile.
When I disabled Wi-Fi, the skipping stops.
Anyone else can confirm this issue?

pjfan75 said:
Same apps installed on both?
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Same apps, same wireless network, same account.
Everything exactly the same.

This is way out there, but could the freezes be related to subpar SDCARD performance ? I had one instance where I shut down the phone, and when I turned it back on the first run setup wizard came on. All the apps I had downloaded were gone. Has not happened again, but evidently, downloads go directly to SD, and apps execute directly from SD. Large downloads seem to Freeze the phone, the browser in conjunction with the marketplace, etc. I don't know, just throwing it out there. Could be Dell be using different SD card models or manufacturers and affecting performance ? I know it's crazy, just want to hear your opinion.

mrancier said:
This is way out there, but could the freezes be related to subpar SDCARD performance ? I had one instance where I shut down the phone, and when I turned it back on the first run setup wizard came on. All the apps I had downloaded were gone. Has not happened again, but evidently, downloads go directly to SD, and apps execute directly from SD. Large downloads seem to Freeze the phone, the browser in conjunction with the marketplace, etc. I don't know, just throwing it out there. Could be Dell be using different SD card models or manufacturers and affecting performance ? I know it's crazy, just want to hear your opinion.
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That is what I suspected as well. Maybe it's crashing because the SD card is being taxed more by the faster WiFi data (vs. cell data).
I wonder if those who have freezing have more apps or data installed and now the phone is using the SD card instead of the internal memory? As pointed out in another thread, there's about 1GB of internal memory.

pjfan75 said:
That is what I suspected as well. Maybe it's crashing because the SD card is being taxed more by the faster WiFi data (vs. cell data).
I wonder if those who have freezing have more apps or data installed and now the phone is using the SD card instead of the internal memory? As pointed out in another thread, there's about 1GB of internal memory.
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Just froze for me (first time today as I hadn't used it save for a phone call and email) while downloading an app in the background while browsing a webpage.
Seemed to do it on command-- as soon as I opened up the browser and went to a page, it stopped, I pressed the Windows key and it sent me to the tile page where it was frozen with the whole people tile filled up with faces.
Long press of power button needed to reboot.
And yes, this was while on WiFi.

My 16GB (don't have the build date) and mine is doing the same thing. I am at a location where I don't have great service and have had to connect to WiFI all weekend. When I go to a rich website or the marketplace the phone will just freeze.
Dell is sending out a new one this week. Hopefully this will fix the issue.

Thoughts on DVP crashing issues

I've had the phone for about a week now, and it's been really crash-prone and unstable for the first couple of days. I previously had an HD7 for 4 weeks, so I immediately set up my DVP like I had the HD7 set up.
It was so buggy, I hard reset at least a couple of times in those few days. My most recent hard reset was on Sunday, and lo and behold, I didn't experience any crashes for 4 days!
That started me thinking. The difference between the previous hard reset and the current hard reset was that I hadn't loaded many apps or any mp3s yet - so I loaded the same amount of MP3s as I had before (about 8gb) and immediately any new programs started crashing! In fact, I think just about anything that wrote to the disk exhibited errors, from newly downloaded and installed apps to existing apps which does disk I/O. The marketplace crashed all the time while downloading or installing apps.
My best guess as to the cause of the issue is that the SD card is corrupting data. As long as you are using the internal storage, everything runs fine - but once data is written to the SD card, things are getting corrupted. I'm not sure about this, it's just a guess.
At the OS level, the internal storage is combined with the SD card into a single logical disk - AKA JBOD in RAID terms. I'm not sure about the OS-level algorithm it uses to determine whether or not to save to internal vs SD card, but my guess is that it writes to the internal first, then when that is exceeded, it writes to the SD card. Even after removing some MP3s, I still had crashes, so I'm guessing that it doesn't overwrite the same sectors that previously held data until all the "fresh" sectors have been used (ie it was still writing to the SD card).
If this is the case, then the culprits could be either A) Dell's crappy SD card drivers corrupting the data or B) a crappy quality SD card corrupting the data. Given their recent QC issues i'm inclined to think it's B - but I hope it's A because that would imply a software fix as opposed to having to replace hardware.
Either way, I'll write a program to test my hypothesis: It'll create a test files of a specific size and then read them back and check that the test data is correct.
Thoughts? Has anybody else noticed similar behavior after filling up their storage?

I suspected the SD card as well, which is why I included the remaining storage space in the options in the poll at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=891295
That being said, some others have said that doing a system reset on their phone did not fix the crashing problems. There are 2 major unknown variables here of course - when the phone is using the SD card vs. internal memory, and whether everyone is experiencing the same type of crashing.

pjfan75 said:
I suspected the SD card as well, which is why I included the remaining storage space in the options in the poll at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=891295
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Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if there were multiple causes for the all the crashes people are experiencing - most likely the SD card may be responsible for some of those, while other issues are causing more crashes.
Impossible to tell at the moment, though. But perhaps the reason why people associated wifi with crashing was that they were using the wifi to load more data than they were over 3G?

I've thought about the apps too. AP mobile is one that is involved on my list. Shazam, yelp, where, are others. I an make my hd7 crash with each of them. However, that does not eliminate sd card. Optimal read/write access speed will probably impact crash, lag, and performance.

Based on this thread it sounds like it's probably more of a driver issue.

alodar1 said:
I've thought about the apps too. AP mobile is one that is involved on my list. Shazam, yelp, where, are others. I an make my hd7 crash with each of them. However, that does not eliminate sd card. Optimal read/write access speed will probably impact crash, lag, and performance.
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I've used those apps on the HD7 and I don't think they ever crashed it - not nearly as often as the DVP crashes.

zaijian said:
But perhaps the reason why people associated wifi with crashing was that they were using the wifi to load more data than they were over 3G?
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That and also at a much higher rate than 3G typically.

zaijian said:
Based on this thread it sounds like it's probably more of a driver issue.
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I don't know if I would agree with that. I would hope that drivers would be the same on all devices. To have 1 fail and 20 not fail....is it driver? I would be curious to know what the failure rates would be. Sure we see alot of complaints here on this forum....but there is not a whole lot of traffic about failure of the DVP. All in All, I'm happy with the DVP. I also have a HD7...and I'm happy with that. I have them both sitting here...and when I make a decision to use a phone of my choice...I've chosen the DVP.
With all things being equal, if I get into a fight, the DVP can be used as a weapon.

I've used up quite a bit of storage but the only time I seem to get a crash is when I enable WiFi, otherwise my DVP seems to run stable.

efjay said:
I've used up quite a bit of storage but the only time I seem to get a crash is when I enable WiFi, otherwise my DVP seems to run stable.
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I have the same results, I went crash free for 2 days without WiFi I wanted to test it and turned it back on and it crashed within a few min.
I have a replacement coming from Dell but I doubt they will have it fixed. I'm hoping it would be something that can be fixed by an update.

Mine crashes too!!
I too am experiencing many of the issues that have been posted on this forum (crashing w/wo wifi, while in MP, or when an app needs data from the internet). Twice I have reached in my pocket, hit the power button to bring up the lock screen and nothing happens - just a blank screen. Hence had to pull the battery and reboot.
A couple of other things I have noticed that I am not sure I have seen on the forums. Does anyone else have a DVP where the top left edge and the bottom right edge are not flush with the bottom of the phone? It is slight, but I noticed it on day one. Also, I have a heck of a time with the accelerometer sticking. Sometimes it refuses to go back into portrait mode. No mater how I turn and twist it (360 deg).
Anyone else experience this?

I used to use the power button to get to the unlock screen, but after fumbling with it a few times in the dark, I switched to flipping out the keyboard, which does the same thing. And while it did often take multiple presses of the power button to wake the DVP, I have never had to pull the battery.

I've had the DVP since November 8th, and had it crash on my severely enough for a battery pull maybe 3-4 times tops. This is both on the "engineering" phone and the "retail" phone. The only difference I have with you guys - and this is pretty significant - is that I hacked my SD card pretty much within the first couple of days of getting it. I've upgraded to a SanDisk class 2 16GB.
Now, I haven't particularly filled it up; in fact, I have tons of space free. But, I'd like to set some facts straight:
1) The DVP has no internal storage. Just a few megs (~16MB or so) just so the OS can run if you pull the SD card. Nothing new here; we've seen this during the first days of the SD card hack thread.
2) If you fill up your storage, and applications request for IsolatedStorage, the request will most likely fail if you have (close to) zero storage free. If applications don't check for that, it will probably crash. I don't know if this is necessarily happening, since I don't have a crashing device to observe this behaviour, but that's one hunch. Some of you have said that the HD7 did not crash when you filled up the storage, which might throw my theory out the window.
3) The SD card used in the DVP is also a SanDisk - I tend to trust them with storage reliability. If it is indeed a driver issue, then Microsoft might have some share in the blame as well - MS writes drivers for the OEMs for WP7.
What we need to do is scientifically reproduce the issue. Instead of general data corruption, another thing to check is to see what happens as storage gets filled up.

kltye said:
What we need to do is scientifically reproduce the issue. Instead of general data corruption, another thing to check is to see what happens as storage gets filled up.
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I attempted to do just that - I wrote a storage test app and ran it on my DVP, and it encountered no issues.
The app wrote test data, filling up 95% of available free space (around 13.3GB), then read it back in and verified the data. I'm now fairly confident that it's not the SD card or the storage drivers that are responsible for the crashing.
I did however, encounter issues trying to download the Rise of Glory game. I had turned wifi off, but it's large enough that it requires wifi or sync in order to download and install. Once I turned wifi on and retried the download, the phone crashed on me.
Let's see if we can verify the wifi + marketplace issue:
1) make sure phone wifi is off
2) connect DVP to computer, run Zune
3) via zune sync, verify that you can install a large game or app on your phone. It has to be one which you haven't downloaded before, as I don't think you can force zune to reinstall an app it knows you already downloaded.
4) disconnect the phone
5) verify the game runs correctly
6) uninstall the game on the phone
7) turn phone wifi on
8) go into marketplace on the phone
9) reinstall the same game and see if you have any issues with marketplace while downloading (freezing/hanging/etc)
10) if everything's still ok, verify that the game runs correctly

@Zaijian
I tried reproducing your flow on my DVP and it didn't crash. But, what is strange is mine freezes (only twice so far) @ random right after playing and trying to get to some other app or switching between app. This tends me to side on the memory as being the culprit or some other component being the culprit. Most likely could be memory related and how WP7 manages to kill an app. Is there a memtest kind of thing we could run on this DVP?

I wrote a wifi transfer testing app and ran it overnight - it transferred 4GB over my wifi (from my desktop to the phone) correctly and without incident.
So, i've confirmed that:
A) there's nothing wrong with writing a single large file to the file system
B) there's nothing wrong with transferring data over wifi
My next tests will be:
1) simultaneously writing multiple large files to the file system
2) simultaneoulsy writing files to the file system and transferring data over wifi
3) some sort of memory test to see if memory is getting corrupted

WiFi seems to be the issue
Not much question that mine locks up when WiFi is turned on. I have been experimenting with this issue for the past few days and while having WiFi on causes random lock-ups, not having it on makes it run without any issues.
Fortunately, most of the areas I use my phone have good 3G coverage so WiFi acting up is not a deal breaker but I certainly hope they are able to fix this with the impending update.
One consideration is could there be an app we all have that uses WiFi that is causing trouble? Has anyone had issues with this from a fresh device? I seem to recall having it lock up early on before I put many apps on it.

jetjockgordo said:
Not much question that mine locks up when WiFi is turned on. I have been experimenting with this issue for the past few days and while having WiFi on causes random lock-ups, not having it on makes it run without any issues.
Fortunately, most of the areas I use my phone have good 3G coverage so WiFi acting up is not a deal breaker but I certainly hope they are able to fix this with the impending update.
One consideration is could there be an app we all have that uses WiFi that is causing trouble? Has anyone had issues with this from a fresh device? I seem to recall having it lock up early on before I put many apps on it.
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My problems seem to occur when I'm going through the marketplace and downloading via wifi.
I verified with my test app that wifi can transfer a large amount of data without errors. This leads me to believe that the wifi itself is not the cause of the issues, but that wifi in combination with other factors may be the cause.

zaijian said:
My problems seem to occur when I'm going through the marketplace and downloading via wifi.
I verified with my test app that wifi can transfer a large amount of data without errors. This leads me to believe that the wifi itself is not the cause of the issues, but that wifi in combination with other factors may be the cause.
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I thought so too but I left the WiFi on and rebooting without accessing Marketplace has been causing lockups as well. In fact, I just noticed it was locked up after a reboot 10 minutes ago and, sure enough, I left WiFi on. I didn't so much as unlock the screen after the reboot although I have also had it lock up while accessing Marketplace.

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I thought so too but I left the WiFi on and rebooting without accessing Marketplace has been causing lockups as well. In fact, I just noticed it was locked up after a reboot 10 minutes ago and, sure enough, I left WiFi on. I didn't so much as unlock the screen after the reboot although I have also had it lock up while accessing Marketplace.
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I'll test using wifi simultaneously with local disk I/O and see if that causes errors.

MK808B - Clock resetting

Everytime this stick is switched off it resets the clock back to 1970 ? ..... things like netflix then stop working. Is there a way to fix the clock ?

clock settings
KanesFist said:
Everytime this stick is switched off it resets the clock back to 1970 ? ..... things like netflix then stop working. Is there a way to fix the clock ?
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What firmware are you running? I didn't run into this issue on Finless 1.7 or Lewy20041 Hybryd. You are signed into your account and set the correct time zone under settings? Wifi is set to auto connect to your network? Android gets its time from internet connection, but you have to set the correct time zone. Hope some of this helps.

Running whatever ROM it came with Android 4.1.1 Kernel 3.08 olsen_V402
Yeah just checked and its on correct time zone etc,
Did you upgrade your FW stright out of the box ?
I seem to remember watching a guy doing his unboxing and running into the same issue.
I should add that I run my power stright from the TV USB slot could this be a factor i.e. it completely resets itself in the absence of a constant power which it will obviously not get when I switch off my TV?

Not updating time. Last ideas.
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Running whatever ROM it came with Android 4.1.1 Kernel 3.08 olsen_V402
Yeah just checked and its on correct time zone etc,
Did you upgrade your FW stright out of the box ?
I seem to remember watching a guy doing his unboxing and running into the same issue.
I should add that I run my power stright from the TV USB slot could this be a factor i.e. it completely resets itself in the absence of a constant power which it will obviously not get when I switch off my TV?
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I ran the factory FW when I first got it, but can't remember if I had that issue.
I've flashed several different FW and they offer a huge benefit in performance, stability and bug fixes. I have run it off TV USB power, but it crashed a few times so I'm using the supplied power brick.
It sounds like the system isn't writing updates. Do you have a microSD card installed? Maybe install Superuser and see if that helps unlock writing to system.
If none of that fixes your time issue, maybe it is time to go custom firmware. They offer power off and reset capabilities. I leave MK808B turned on all the time, never turn it off. I reboot about once a week. Takes a while for my accounts to sync, don't like waiting and it doesn't use much power.
Let us know what you figure out.

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I ran the factory FW when I first got it, but can't remember if I had that issue.
I've flashed several different FW and they offer a huge benefit in performance, stability and bug fixes. I have run it off TV USB power, but it crashed a few times so I'm using the supplied power brick.
It sounds like the system isn't writing updates. Do you have a microSD card installed? Maybe install Superuser and see if that helps unlock writing to system.
If none of that fixes your time issue, maybe it is time to go custom firmware. They offer power off and reset capabilities. I leave MK808B turned on all the time, never turn it off. I reboot about once a week. Takes a while for my accounts to sync, don't like waiting and it doesn't use much power.
Let us know what you figure out.
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I have already updated to custom rom finless 1.7 and initially not impressed but I think this in part is to do with the hardware. For example when I first tested finless it was on a 1080i which explains why I only had limited options for display resolution. Once I ran it on my 1080p the options were available and everything looked good again.
The wifi seems pretty duff still albeit I think this is due to a weak signal and not using external power. Going to do a couple of more tests later.
Have ordered one of these http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B007SU0BJU/ref=pe_217191_31005151_M3C_dp_1
Hopefully that will help.

oh and good point on the SD card ..... will pop one in

According to another thread the fix is to go into "date and time" settings and turn on the "automatic date & time" setting.
The manufacturer seemed to have forgotten to enable this in the newest firmware

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Go to Settings, then Buttons, and there you have it, after options for search key.

SD problem
I have cm11.0-20140627. (I installed the latest version but the phone kept rebooting, so I reinstalled the 27/06 version).
The problem I have is that the phone keeps removing the SD card when it wakes up or when it turns on. Therefore, I have to open the lid, remove the SD card and place it again in the phone. Is this a common bug?
I've tried to format the SD but the problem still remains.

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I have cm11.0-20140627. (I installed the latest version but the phone kept rebooting, so I reinstalled the 27/06 version).
The problem I have is that the phone keeps removing the SD card when it wakes up or when it turns on. Therefore, I have to open the lid, remove the SD card and place it again in the phone. Is this a common bug?
I've tried to format the SD but the problem still remains.
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Perhaps it's related to the Wi-Fi. Can you try turning off Wi-Fi, and making sure it does not enable itself for location scanning. Also, if this happens, I'd like logs (the app is on my thread which you can use to get the logs).

sd card swapping
hey ..can you tell me a way of swapping or emulating internal sd card as external
i have a broken sd card slot and the camera features and other feature can't be used without it..

Blefish said:
Perhaps it's related to the Wi-Fi. Can you try turning off Wi-Fi, and making sure it does not enable itself for location scanning. Also, if this happens, I'd like logs (the app is on my thread which you can use to get the logs).
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The Wifi isn' t enabled for location scanning and the problem occurs also when the wifi is turned off.
you mentioned something about logs. Do you mean the "data.txt" file?
I guess it doesn't have personal data in it, does it?
If not, I'm sending it right away!

BlueFireX22 said:
hey ..can you tell me a way of swapping or emulating internal sd card as external
i have a broken sd card slot and the camera features and other feature can't be used without it..
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I promised this to someone some time ago, but never implemented it. Actually today's release is a bit experimental on some sides, so if there are issues I will do another one soon, with the swappable storage patch. Things like this (swappable storage) are really useful features, but they break CM's policies and that's why they don't merge this stuff. I will add it to my own builds from now on though .
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The Wifi isn' t enabled for location scanning and the problem occurs also when the wifi is turned off.
you mentioned something about logs. Do you mean the "data.txt" file?
I guess it doesn't have personal data in it, does it?
If not, I'm sending it right away!
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Yes, the data.txt would be useful. The log could contain sensitive information though, you can check it for any potential usernames, serial numbers and mac addresses. If you want you can also send it to me as a PM, if you're ok with that.
I actually had a similar issue a long time ago, but my SD card was dying and one day the Wi-Fi would not turn on anymore (the Wi-Fi bus and SD card bus are using the same driver, which got confused). You mentioned you were using the 06/28 release, the issue is not present there?

Blefish said:
Yes, the data.txt would be useful. The log could contain sensitive information though, you can check it for any potential usernames, serial numbers and mac addresses. If you want you can also send it to me as a PM, if you're ok with that.
I actually had a similar issue a long time ago, but my SD card was dying and one day the Wi-Fi would not turn on anymore (the Wi-Fi bus and SD card bus are using the same driver, which got confused). You mentioned you were using the 06/28 release, the issue is not present there?
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Here's the data.txt.
View attachment data.7z
The issue is present with the 28/06 version, I just had problem with the new ones (the phone kept rebooting with the 07/09 version).
When you have the time to check it, keep in mind that there could be a connection between my problem and wifi tethering ( I think this problem started when I first used wifi tethering).

tsioy said:
Here's the data.txt.
View attachment 2989733
The issue is present with the 28/06 version, I just had problem with the new ones (the phone kept rebooting with the 07/09 version).
When you have the time to check it, keep in mind that there could be a connection between my problem and wifi tethering ( I think this problem started when I first used wifi tethering).
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Thanks.
From the log I can see it fails on resume, possibly because in my ROM the SD card power is turned off and for some reason it fails to react after power is turned on again.
In stock Huawei ROMs they did not do that, which increases power consumption too (in some cases some users reported that without the SD card they'd get double the battery). So I enabled it in my ROM (it's actually enabled by default in Qualcomm development boards too).
I will debug this problem, perhaps it needs a delay when resuming.
Btw, if you have installed the last version, do you still get reboots?

Blefish said:
Thanks.
From the log I can see it fails on resume, possibly because in my ROM the SD card power is turned off and for some reason it fails to react after power is turned on again.
In stock Huawei ROMs they did not do that, which increases power consumption too (in some cases some users reported that without the SD card they'd get double the battery). So I enabled it in my ROM (it's actually enabled by default in Qualcomm development boards too).
I will debug this problem, perhaps it needs a delay when resuming.
Btw, if you have installed the last version, do you still get reboots?
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I will install it today. Just to make it clear, is it better to wipe data/cache/dalvik before installing the new rom, after the installation or can I just install it without wiping anything?
After edit:
I installed it without wiping anything. No reboots, it is functional (~1.5 hour).
I will come back with any news. Thanks!!

hellow blefish，the menu button some times not work，will you fix it？

johnnysancs said:
hellow blefish，the menu button some times not work，will you fix it？
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Does the phone vibrate when you press it? And other buttons (especially back) works?
I haven't had the issue myself, so I don't really know what to fix.

Blefish said:
Does the phone vibrate when you press it? And other buttons (especially back) works?
I haven't had the issue myself, so I don't really know what to fix.
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The back ，home is work，but menu not always work，I mean sontimes it not work at all，

Blefish said:
Does the phone vibrate when you press it? And other buttons (especially back) works?
I haven't had the issue myself, so I don't really know what to fix.
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The phone does vibrate when I press menu but not work.so I reflash the rom .and it works .but after sometime it is not work again

I think it is due to software conflics.
Will you add cm11's double tap weak to u8800?

Hi Blefish!
The problem with the SD card has reappeared. Now I have the 28/10 version and besides this problem, everything is fine.

I have a bug..
Hi Blefish. I have a bug in latest build (cm11-2014-10-28).
"Import/Export from SIM Card" doesn't work on "Contacts" and I can not import/export contacts from SIM card. This is working previous version.
Thanks. It is great work. A lot thanks.

More RAM?
"For more RAM: Settings->Performance->Memory management."
I can't find "Performance" on the general settings "menu/app".
Is there another "Settings" menu/app?

rexnanet said:
"For more RAM: Settings->Performance->Memory management."
I can't find "Performance" on the general settings "menu/app".
Is there another "Settings" menu/app?
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I think you need to enable Developer options first. Settings->About. Tap the build number 7 times to enable Performance options. Oh, make sure you do not enable KSM, as it breaks camera after using it for some time (only reboot helps). I will remove KSM option in next release.

Blefish said:
I think you need to enable Developer options first. Settings->About. Tap the build number 7 times to enable Performance options. Oh, make sure you do not enable KSM, as it breaks camera after using it for some time (only reboot helps). I will remove KSM option in next release.
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Thanks!
Found it Wasn't aware of this
Yes, I saw the issue with KSM, not going to enable!
By the way, I found some issues with the ROM, don't know if this is the right place but can't post anywhere else lol
1- Camera doesn't work withou SD card in slot. Crashes. (It should use internal memory in that case shouldn't it?)
2- Sometimes can't turn location (GPS?) completely off, either thru the status bar menu or thru the power widget. Have to go to Settings->Personal->Location and turn it off.
3- Still haven't fully charged with the wall charger (only with USB port from laptop) but seems to drain the battery a lot! Before could last 4 days (oxygen ROM on 2.3.x) but only during the night lost about 60% charge.
Thanks for the great work!
Having Bluetooth working is a major plus
Edit: Sorry, using 20140907...wrong zip file... my mistake!

[Q] Device occasionally loses Internet connection for both WiFi and cellular

Now that I've got the Moto X Pure Edition activated, I've been able to work out some of the kinks inherent using it as a daily driver. One noteworthy issue that remains is an odd bug where the device will completely lose connection to the Internet on both a WiFi and cellular data connection, usually after transitioning between types of connections. When this happens, an exclamation point is displayed next to the icon representing whichever connection is currently active and nothing is able to transmit data to or from the Internet or even my local network.
Rebooting the device always fixes the problem, but this issue is materializing a bit too often for my liking, which is usually once every time that I return to a WiFi network after being disconnected from one for some time (more testing may have to be done to confirm exactly what triggers it).
The device is running the stock rom (rooted) and the stock kernel along with the usual tweaks (ad-blocking, Xposed framework, audio fixes, etc.). Anybody seen this before or know what might be causing it?
UPDATE (3/1/2017)
Figured it out! The problem appears to have been caused by my failure to whitelist certain applications in PowerNap. After following the instructions found in the Moto X Pure Edition power optimization thread, the problem appears to have vanished. I don't know if it was the Google Services Framework, JavaTcmdHelper, Android System, or some combination of those that needed to be whitelisted, but the problem has vanished. At least one of those must be responsible for verifying the validity of an Internet connection in sleep mode, which would cause the device to become confused when it would wake up with a different connection that it hadn't verified (that's my theory at least).
At any rate, it is no longer an issue.
Update (Later on 3/1/2017)
Well, it looks like it might not be fixed so well after all. A couple hours after arriving home today, I went to use the device and saw the dreaded "!" next to the network indicator. Still, two days is longer than it's ever lasted before. I've cleared the cache and dalvik/ART cache to see if something in there might be gumming it up and will add another post to this thread if the problem returns.

Still an issue
Looks like it might not be fixed after all. I lost connection again the other day in a parking lot and once more today after getting home. Any ideas as to what could be causing this?

I just recently got my x pure. I've seen this issue on mine too.

Another one!
inkdaddy66 said:
I just recently got my x pure. I've seen this issue on mine too.
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Interesting. Are you running the stock Rom? Rooted? Amplify/Greenify/PowerNap?

Bill720 said:
Interesting. Are you running the stock Rom? Rooted? Amplify/Greenify/PowerNap?
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I'm unlocked and rooted. Running validus 7.1.1 ROM.

does your configuration look anything like this?
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I'm unlocked and rooted. Running validus 7.1.1 ROM.
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That too is interesting. I'm running the stock Rom, (rooted) so we can probably eliminate that as a potential cause. Given how little reference there is to this on the web at large, the problem is probably caused by a common app or setting (or some kind of unfortunate combination) running on both of our phones.
All we need to do is figure out what kind of "unusual" stuff our devices have in common. I'll rattle off a list of software and settings that might be out of the ordinary or network-related; you tell me if you're running anything like it on your phone.
AdFree
A.R.I.S.E. audio
FolderSync
Ice Box (Motorola Update Service is the only frozen app)
TOTAL Wireless My Account App
Pebble, MyTracks, and Pebble MyTracks
SlingPlayer (this one sometimes wakelocks)
Titanium backup (I tried restoring some WiFi access points once, but it didn't work)
Xposed Framework with Amplify, Greenify, and Power Nap installed and configured as instructed in the Moto X Pure Edition battery life guide thread OP. I've also got MinMinGuard and YouTube AdAway.
As far as settings go, I've not got much in the way of unusual configurations. I enabled the system UI tuner to get the battery percentage and the extended developer options to try out multi-window, (and to change the animation scales to .5X) but everything in there is still pretty much stock.
Does your configuration have anything in common with mine?

Close, but no cigar
It got almost 8 days this time before it happened again. I thought that maybe switching to the legacy DHCP client had done the trick, but that was apparently not the case. Any ideas as to what could be causing the issue or how to fix it?
Or, if you're having the same problem, can you look at my list in the previous post and tell me if any of the software or settings are similar so that we can narrow down the cause?

I have had this problem appear about three times over my 13 months of ownership and all three times was when my bootloader was still locked (obviously running stock not rooted). Never found a solution except to reboot.i only unlocked and rooted my device about a month ago.

Anything familiar?
aybarrap1 said:
I have had this problem appear about three times over my 13 months of ownership and all three times was when my bootloader was still locked (obviously running stock not rooted). Never found a solution except to reboot.i only unlocked and rooted my device about a month ago.
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Interesting. Between that, my findings, and the fact that @inkdaddy66 was having the problem on a non-Motorola Rom, I want to think that we can eliminate the Rom software as a cause. Did you see any familiar software on my "potential troublemakers" list up in post 6? I'm thinking that if we can find a common program or workflow, then we'll be able to narrow down the cause of the problem.
In the meantime, I'll try posting in the general Android troubleshooting forum here on XDA and see if anybody there has seen the problem or has any troubleshooting tips.

Bill720 said:
Interesting. Between that, my findings, and the fact that @inkdaddy66 was having the problem on a non-Motorola Rom, I want to think that we can eliminate the Rom software as a cause. Did you see any familiar software on my "potential troublemakers" list up in post 6? I'm thinking that if we can find a common program or workflow, then we'll be able to narrow down the cause of the problem.
In the meantime, I'll try posting in the general Android troubleshooting forum here on XDA and see if anybody there has seen the problem or has any troubleshooting tips.
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Nothing used from your list except system UI tuner when I experienced the problems. That would leave either a ROM and/or hardware issue IMO.

Cause and effect differential diagnosis
aybarrap1 said:
Nothing used from your list except system UI tuner when I experienced the problems. That would leave either a ROM and/or hardware issue IMO.
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Hmmm... That's also interesting, but I just don't see how system UI tuner could be harming anything. Do you have any other apps or settings at all that you think could be causing the issue?
If this were anything other than my primary, I'd hard reset and troubleshoot that way, but I don't exactly have the time to pull the rug out of an otherwise-working setup right now, so this is going to have to be done the hard way (or, in the case of hardware glitch, lived with).
At any rate, I discovered a new symptom earlier in the week. This time, Internet connection was lost, but only for WiFi, so the connection would actually fall back to Cellular and still continue to work. As before, toggling the connection had no effect, but rebooting the device "fixed" it. I thought maybe it was a fluke, since we'd had an AP hiccup over the weekend, (I refuse to reboot that thing because I'm going for an uptime record) but it happened again on Wednesday, so I'm not sure what to make of it.
Side-issue aside, I'm beginning to wonder if it's some kind of combination of network behavior and usage pattern that brings the issue about. It seems like if I stay within range of the WiFi network, no issue develops, but if I move out of its coverage and don't touch the phone for a while, that allows for ideal conditions under which to replicate the problem (sometimes). I haven't nailed down a consistent pattern yet, but the problem does emerge more often when I'm returning home than at other times. Any thoughts?
Update (3/24/2017; 12:32PM)
Scratch that last part about the issue only being triggered upon "arriving home." The problem happened again this morning, in the same general area. First, no WiFI, then, after resetting the connections, no cellular either. I captured a LogCat before rebooting this time though. Anyone want to take a crack at sifting through that to see if it offers any clues?

I lose cellular data, from time to time, I don't kow if I'm losing WiFi capability also, because I'm on the road when this happens.
It takes a reboot or switching in and out of airplane mode to regain data.
I have had this happen on TruPureXMM ROM and stock-rooted Marshmallow.
I have not spent much time on stock-unrooted, so i don't know if it would happen then, also.

Possible fix
Just to follow up on this again, I have finally reached the eighth day of uptime without the problem materializing, which is the longest that I was able to go before without it happening. This time, I went in to the developer options and disabled "Cellular data always active." I'd give it another couple days to know for sure, but if this sticks, then I think we might've found the fix!
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I lose cellular data, from time to time, I don't kow if I'm losing WiFi capability also, because I'm on the road when this happens.
It takes a reboot or switching in and out of airplane mode to regain data.
I have had this happen on TruPureXMM ROM and stock-rooted Marshmallow.
I have not spent much time on stock-unrooted, so i don't know if it would happen then, also.
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If your trouble is isolated to just one connection and/or cycling the connection brings it back, then the issue you are experiencing is unrelated to the one described in this thread.

Bill720 said:
Just to follow up on this again, I have finally reached the eighth day of uptime without the problem materializing, which is the longest that I was able to go before without it happening. This time, I went in to the developer options and disabled "Cellular data always active." I'd give it another couple days to know for sure, but if this sticks, then I think we might've found the fix!
If your trouble is isolated to just one connection and/or cycling the connection brings it back, then the issue you are experiencing is unrelated to the one described in this thread.
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Cellular data always active should never be on (it's disabled in stock rom), except if you have VoLTE only with no fallback to 3G or 2G (Jio is the only provider that comes to mind, but this phone doesn't support their service anyway) or otherwise unusual scenarios I can't really think of.

Huh, and CELLULAR DATA ALWAYS ACTIVE (for faster network switching) sounds like such a good thing.
Mine was selected on.
My loss of data happens in the same spot, usually, but is not leaving wifi. Perhaps it is a tower to tower handoff spot.
I turned it off. Time will tell.
Thanks, fellas!

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Huh, and CELLULAR DATA ALWAYS ACTIVE (for faster network switching) sounds like such a good thing.
Mine was selected on.
My loss of data happens in the same spot, usually, but is not leaving wifi. Perhaps it is a tower to tower handoff spot.
I turned it off. Time will tell.
Thanks, fellas!
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Always on is not necessarily a good thing. Reality is that when you lose or turn off WiFi, mobile data should only be delayed only by a second or two. There is no real benefit to having it on except for maybe VOLTE.

pizza_pablo said:
Huh, and CELLULAR DATA ALWAYS ACTIVE (for faster network switching) sounds like such a good thing.
Mine was selected on.
My loss of data happens in the same spot, usually, but is not leaving wifi. Perhaps it is a tower to tower handoff spot.
I turned it off. Time will tell.
Thanks, fellas!
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Actually, it's a battery killer more than anything else... It keeps cellular data active even when on WiFi.
It is possible it's a tower thing though. I have noticed at this one hotel I stay at frequently people tell me they call and it rings or just goes to voicemail even though I have good signal. After investigating it a bit, I'm in a spot that has nearly identical signal strength from 3 towers and it's a metro area so there are 4+ bands accessible... I've seen times watching LTE Discovery where it keeps switching bands and towers for 30 to 120 seconds or so, like it can't make up it's mind what to talk to because it's confused, then it locks on for a while before it starts it's cycle again. During those cycles I think is when people​ can't call me, can't really say if it affects internet or not since I tend not to use my phone too much in the evenings when I'm on the road (usually on laptop).

Uptime record, but... it's back
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Cellular data always active should never be on (it's disabled in stock rom), except if you have VoLTE only with no fallback to 3G or 2G (Jio is the only provider that comes to mind, but this phone doesn't support their service anyway) or otherwise unusual scenarios I can't really think of.
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Interesting. I thought for sure that I had the default settings checked in there, but maybe I did change it early on and just forgot. Either way, waiting an extra five seconds to establish a data connection isn't that huge of a deal for me, so I'll leave it off anyway in exchange for battery life when the signal's poor.
At any rate, however, the problem has returned. I was just a few hours short of 9 days of uptime and really thought that I was out of the woods with this problem, but it has returned once again upon returning into range of the home access point. Looks like we're back to the drawing board on this one.
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Huh, and CELLULAR DATA ALWAYS ACTIVE (for faster network switching) sounds like such a good thing.
Mine was selected on.
My loss of data happens in the same spot, usually, but is not leaving wifi. Perhaps it is a tower to tower handoff spot.
I turned it off. Time will tell.
Thanks, fellas!
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So you're having the same problem too? That makes at least four of us now. Do you mind sharing what Rom and flashed tweaks (Xposed Framework, A.R.I.S.E. audio, root, etc.) you're using as well as any unusual software or settings? Anything in common with my list on page 1?

Bill720 said:
So you're having the same problem too? That makes at least four of us now. Do you mind sharing what Rom and flashed tweaks (Xposed Framework, A.R.I.S.E. audio, root, etc.) you're using as well as any unusual software or settings? Anything in common with my list on page 1?
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I think we've established that my issue is different, but it has occurred on TruPureXMM and stock but rooted Marshmallow, both with Substratum, Xposed (Gravity Box only) and Viper Atmos.
Same as you =Titanium Backup

*another* new strategy (sigh)
For this week's shot in the dark, I'm going to try manually switching WiFi off before I leave anyplace covered by an access point. Since the problem seems to occur most often when connected to WiFi or when connecting to it, maybe this will make some kind of a difference.
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I think we've established that my issue is different, but it has occurred on TruPureXMM and stock but rooted Marshmallow, both with Substratum, Xposed (Gravity Box only) and Viper Atmos.
Same as you =Titanium Backup
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I see now; my mistake.