Vanilla UI vs CyanogenMod questions - X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm running an unofficial version of CM13 on the Honor 5X. Unofficial means a few things are absent at the moment, like fingerprint scanner. What does work works to make this one of the smoothest phones I've used. (EMUI is entirely unusable.)
I'm very interested and I'm this close to ordering the Moto X Pure. So since it's very close to AOSP, as is CyanogenMod, I'm interested to know what differences I can look forward to. Yes, I acknowledge that just because they're both approaching AOSP doesn't mean they are similar to each other.
With CM, I nominally have LiveDisplay (which is broken at the moment but is great when it did work).
With CM, I can enable extra buttons other than just back and home and switcher. I also have search and the menu buttons on.
With CM, I can double tap the power button and it'll go directly to the camera.
These are what comes to mind right now. So, can I expect the Pure to have this functionality?
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For the record, I have no immediate interest in switching from the vanilla on the Pure. My sole interest at the moment is just wondering how similar they are and if I will have to give up some familiar functionality.
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Is there a way to get the 4x4 pattern CM lockscreen the on a stock rooted ROM?

dschmidt said:
I'm running an unofficial version of CM13 on the Honor 5X. Unofficial means a few things are absent at the moment, like fingerprint scanner. What does work works to make this one of the smoothest phones I've used. (EMUI is entirely unusable.)
I'm very interested and I'm this close to ordering the Moto X Pure. So since it's very close to AOSP, as is CyanogenMod, I'm interested to know what differences I can look forward to. Yes, I acknowledge that just because they're both approaching AOSP doesn't mean they are similar to each other.
With CM, I nominally have LiveDisplay (which is broken at the moment but is great when it did work).
With CM, I can enable extra buttons other than just back and home and switcher. I also have search and the menu buttons on.
With CM, I can double tap the power button and it'll go directly to the camera.
These are what comes to mind right now. So, can I expect the Pure to have this functionality?
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Moto Display = LiveDisplay (so you have it)
extra buttons - with xposed is possible
double power camera - in Moto it's double phone twist for camera

I suspect I'll find that the double twist thing is stupid and gimmicky, unless I find that the power button is just inconvenient.
But I'm glad it's basically available. What about the 4x4 pattern lock screen, as @sunny_j asked about?
Is that available through xposed? I've never used it (and have no idea what role it serves--yet), but my understanding is that it requires root, which requires unlocking the bootloader, which I understand is easy enough.
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Does Atrix users want to usePonury Gesture Mod?

The Ponury Gesture Mod software allows people to wake phone (just like power button) by a swipe gesture on the screen.
So it's slide2wake or slide 2 unlock. It also allows locking and so on.
The developer has disclaim that without the device he cannot work on it
And enough people could declare to buy the app when it's ready so I could buy the device myself
Are people here interested in this app and we can give the developer much attention to our ATRIX
APP and video address : search PGM - Ponury Gesture Mod in android play
Looks great, but it needs a modified kernel, doesnt it? For the Evo 3D thats the case.
im one of those interested. also purchasing.
yes, its done with a custom kernel. so 3 should be made at least. cm7, cm9/cm10 and blur to cover all roms.
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CM7 already has gestures on the lockscreen though. Whenever I am on CM7 I use the unlock gesture and a torch gesture. People always get frustrated trying to figure out how to unlock my phone. xD Locking gesture seems interesting and being able to do this on a non CM Rom is pretty cool.
This would be an excellent addition to the already awesome phone!!
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could be cool
Wouldn't this potentially drain battery though? Since the touchscreen is staying active all the time waiting for a swipe. Does this even allow the phone to go into standby or deep sleep?
I would be interested also. Please let me know if you need a tester.
Looks Great!
http://goo.gl/IvxuA
Indeed looks great. I would buy it.
ToonShadow said:
CM7 already has gestures on the lockscreen though. Whenever I am on CM7 I use the unlock gesture and a torch gesture. People always get frustrated trying to figure out how to unlock my phone. xD Locking gesture seems interesting and being able to do this on a non CM Rom is pretty cool.
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its not unlocking gestures. its using your capacitive keys to unlock/relock and other functions.
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YES! We want it, but how?

What ROMs include pie WITH the last app button

I'm trying to figure out which ROMs have it so I can try them out and see which one of them I like best. Thanks in advance
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Install LMT launcher and you will even have it with the stock or any other rom (root required). Available here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330150.
if you want to see pie grow use pa, this is where it comes from anyway and this is where it gets better almost daily. rootbox is developing it as well in their own way, which is cool.
lmt on the other hand is almost a carbon copy, but lacks function where it matters and lacks badly. even bringing it up is silly - on the nexus plattform, where almost all rom have pie because its open source. except cm.
why'd anyone wanna make do with a hack. you know, you dont have to see android progressing, but getting the newest and seeing ideas take shape and form is so much more fun than taking substitutes. thats why we're on nexus, no?
molesarecoming said:
if you want to see pie grow use pa, this is where it comes from anyway and this is where it gets better almost daily. rootbox is developing it as well in their own way, which is cool.
lmt on the other hand is almost a carbon copy, but lacks function where it matters and lacks badly. even bringing it up is silly - on the nexus plattform, where almost all rom have pie because its open source. except cm.
why'd anyone wanna make do with a hack. you know, you dont have to see android progressing, but getting the newest and seeing ideas take shape and form is so much more fun than taking substitutes. thats why we're on nexus, no?
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Well put, thanks for your hard work but I was under the impression that pie on paranoid didn't have the last app button or am I mistaken?
molesarecoming said:
if you want to see pie grow use pa, this is where it comes from anyway and this is where it gets better almost daily. rootbox is developing it as well in their own way, which is cool.
lmt on the other hand is almost a carbon copy, but lacks function where it matters and lacks badly. even bringing it up is silly - on the nexus plattform, where almost all rom have pie because its open source. except cm.
why'd anyone wanna make do with a hack. you know, you dont have to see android progressing, but getting the newest and seeing ideas take shape and form is so much more fun than taking substitutes. thats why we're on nexus, no?
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Not all rooted users choose to install a custom rom, for those users LMT is a nice solution PA offering Pie control is a well known fact i presume.
afbengochea said:
Well put, thanks for your hard work but I was under the impression that pie on paranoid didn't have the last app button or am I mistaken?
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By that I assume you mean multitasking right? Then yes, yes it does. If it's not enabled by default (which I'm pretty sure it is) then it'll almost certainly be somewhere in the settings.
Nigeldg said:
By that I assume you mean multitasking right? Then yes, yes it does. If it's not enabled by default (which I'm pretty sure it is) then it'll almost certainly be somewhere in the settings.
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Not the recents button, there's actually a button which switches between the app your on and the last app you were on. Think of like the alt+tab shortcut on windows. Where you switch between two apps back and forth. I know AOKP does it but they don't have pie. Carbon and xylon both seem to have it with pie implemented, I was wondering what other ROMs have it. I've attached a picture of xylon with the last app being the one furthest to the right
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afbengochea said:
Not the recents button, there's actually a button which switches between the app your on and the last app you were on. Think of like the alt+tab shortcut on windows. Where you switch between two apps back and forth. I know AOKP does it but they don't have pie. Carbon and xylon both seem to have it with pie implemented, I was wondering what other ROMs have it. I've attached a picture of xylon with the last app being the one furthest to the right
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Ah my bad sorry. In that case, unfortunately I think not.
Try rootbox, the latest nightly runs great on this device and has a lot of customizing options for pie control.
afbengochea said:
Not the recents button, there's actually a button which switches between the app your on and the last app you were on. Think of like the alt+tab shortcut on windows. Where you switch between two apps back and forth. I know AOKP does it but they don't have pie. Carbon and xylon both seem to have it with pie implemented, I was wondering what other ROMs have it. I've attached a picture of xylon with the last app being the one furthest to the right
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I've never even heard of that.
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Personally I use paranoid android and the only reason is that I like the extended desktop feature which hides the soft keys and whenever you need it you just swipe from the bottom and you get pie
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OP, I THINK E.L.E. has the last app button.
+1 for RootBox.

a serch for a mod

I really liked the feature in the oneplus one that allow you to activate certain apps by "drwing" a pattern on the screen when the phone is off...is thete a similer thing for the G2?...
I thought about installing cynogen mod but I didnt like losing the knock on (BTW I think its one of the greatest feature that came in the mobile market in a long time..some fine work by LG) and cynogen 11 is only out in the nightly version and I prefer having a solid OS that I can really relay on....
Apex paid version has gestures. Not necessarily drawing patterns but you get a few possibilities. Maybe there's a better way.
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Moto X without Moto!

I feel sorry for scarsity of stock based Moto X roms. There are a lot of CM, AOSP, based roms without the Motorola Touchless control. I love and use them, but in my Galaxy!
In my opinion, the main reason to use a Moto X is the Touchless Control and Moto Voice. I dont´t understand a Moto X rom without these features. But, I insist, this is my opinion and I don´t want to generate a controversy.
What features in touchless control do you use that isn't really just Google Now? I simply just use Nova Launcher to respond to OK Google.
czuppa said:
I feel sorry for scarsity of stock based Moto X roms. There are a lot of CM, AOSP, based roms without the Motorola Touchless control. I love and use them, but in my Galaxy!
In my opinion, the main reason to use a Moto X is the Touchless Control and Moto Voice. I dont´t understand a Moto X rom without these features. But, I insist, this is my opinion and I don´t want to generate a controversy.
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i know exactly what you mean i had the same issues until i discovered exposed modules that literally make my moto x as customizable as i want to. and i use nova launcher on top of it all.
I use "OK google now" when I can't find my phone in my car or on the couch. I just say "find my phone" and it starts beeping. Making really easy to find. Can't do that with custom roms.
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czuppa said:
I feel sorry for scarsity of stock based Moto X roms. There are a lot of CM, AOSP, based roms without the Motorola Touchless control. I love and use them, but in my Galaxy!
In my opinion, the main reason to use a Moto X is the Touchless Control and Moto Voice. I dont´t understand a Moto X rom without these features. But, I insist, this is my opinion and I don´t want to generate a controversy.
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On all the msm8960 generation phones custom ROMs are not worth the loss of stock features.
I've been using the Krypton ROM for a few days now and really liking it. I need active display, but I've heard that there are some third parties that have it as well.
Maybe I'll flash cm11 or paranoid android later
redeuxx said:
What features in touchless control do you use that isn't really just Google Now? I simply just use Nova Launcher to respond to OK Google.
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They don't use the low voltage processors like stock moto x does
mtcrew said:
They don't use the low voltage processors like stock moto x does
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The two main features I wanted from a custom ROM was active notifications and voice features. I feel the features the custom ROM I have has now does a decent job with that without noticeable impact on battery.
redeuxx said:
The two main features I wanted from a custom ROM was active notifications and voice features. I feel the features the custom ROM I have has now does a decent job with that without noticeable impact on battery.
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It's probably a stock based rom. So you would be using the same moto features with no real battery loss. ?
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The cm based ones don't have the moto features.
I spent a long time debating this myself. I really really like the stock active display. Not crazy about the touchless control, but i had used it from time to time, but damn that active display! However, the benefits of an AOSP based ROM eventually drew me to the dark side. My shift mostly revolved around ART. There are a few features I simply cannot live without, for example making the status bar a brightness slider, having quick pulldown on the toggles, and a kill all in the recent-apps. In stock based ROMs, you simply cannot have these without xposed, and with xposed, you simply cannot have ART.
By this point (4.4.4), ART really has grown into quite the tantalizing runtime. I don't always necessarily notice faster performance of apps, but I certainly experience way better battery life. The other day I had been on battery for about 24-25 hours, bluetooth on the entire time, wifi on (but had been traveling around so also connecting to LTE), maybe ~2 hours screen on time, and i was still at 25% battery remaining. That's just silly. I couldn't get that with Dalvik.
So in the end, I had to choose between having the brightness slider / quick pulldown / kill all and be able to run ART, or have active display and touchless controls and be able to run ART. AcDisplay on the market isn't a bad replacement for active display (perfect for pocket mode, just isn't good for the whole "rock your phone or wave in front of it to see notifications", which is a bummer, but for what it is it's quite good). Dragon Mobile Assistant can do everything touchless control can do, and is way better at recognizing speech, but it does come at a battery cost (still, was able to get about 16 hours of battery life with its "always listening mode" enabled). Now, add on the gravy of being able to theme cm based ROMs (I'm currently on Carbon), and really for me there was no looking back. When Moto Voice and the new active display gets released for our gen phone, I may take another look (and if you need stock based to get everything out of the moto 360, which i'll be getting soon), but for now I'm all AOSP and ART XD
With GravityBox stock rom also have brightness slider / quick pulldown / kill all. I run ART in my other phones, I don´t feel tantalized wiith it in my Moto X.
I think Motorola has done a great job with battery life in Moto X, a great job in many other things. Non stock make this phone worse. In my opinion, of course.
I recall that I love aosp roms (I use Dirty in my Galaxy) So, it not my intencion to underappreciate them
KJ said:
It's probably a stock based rom. So you would be using the same moto features with no real battery loss. ?
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The cm based ones don't have the moto features.
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CM based Carbon ROM. The active notifications isn't stock, but it's more feature rich and like I said, no noticeable effect on battery.
redeuxx said:
CM based Carbon ROM. The active notifications isn't stock, but it's more feature rich and like I said, no noticeable effect on battery.
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Examples of 'rich' features for the non-stock Active Notifications?
I use both and would love to see some Blur based development to go along with all the CM/AOSP development
I'm not going to list every menu item. You are free to install the ROM yourself if you wish to find out.

Which roms have multiwindow?

Hello everyone,
I ordered a Nexus 6P, it should be here in a couple of days.
I'm coming from a Note 5 and one feature I really want to keep is Multi-window. What roms currently have a fully functional multiwindow feature? I know omnirom used to have it, not sure if they still do. Omni Rom's site doesn't even list it anymore.
Marshmallow's crappy multiwindow isn't a preferred option, as it's really half baked.
Android N has it, but I hear the developer previews get really laggy after a while.
Thanks
That's the only multi window there is for now. I suggest you to try N preview, I heard the new one runs relatively stable.
bouncynemoss said:
Hello everyone,
I ordered a Nexus 6P, it should be here in a couple of days.
I'm coming from a Note 5 and one feature I really want to keep is Multi-window. What roms currently have a fully functional multiwindow feature? I know omnirom used to have it, not sure if they still do. Omni Rom's site doesn't even list it anymore.
Marshmallow's crappy multiwindow isn't a preferred option, as it's really half baked.
Android N has it, but I hear the developer previews get really laggy after a while.
Thanks
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Multi-window on N Preview is extremely smooth, compared to the experimental MW in Marshmallow. Plus it now lets you play YouTube videos simultaneously while carrying out tasks in the second window.
I have been using N preview since the second release, I agree that it may freeze some times, but only when a lot of memory hogging apps are running. Otherwise, pair it with a decent custom kernel (I use ElementalX), and you will be fine. And anyways, if it doesn't suit your device, you can always roll-back to MM.
I wonder if someone will port Android N's Multi Window to Android M.
I really dont like N so far.. The cluttered cards in NF tray, the massive recents tabs, and the ridiculously tiny google keyboard when setting custom DPI. Its a huge mess, and I doubt those things will be fixed.
imatts said:
I wonder if someone will port Android N's Multi Window to Android M.
I really dont like N so far.. The cluttered cards in NF tray, the massive recents tabs, and the ridiculously tiny google keyboard when setting custom DPI. Its a huge mess, and I doubt those things will be fixed.
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You do realize its a developer's preview/BETA right ? So its kinda gonna be a mess since they're still working the kinks out AND asking for feedback. So those complaints you have? (Which are legitimate i agree) Click the little N button in the the pull-down menu and let google know. That's how an open beta works.Hopefully they fix it and if not the bright minds here on XDA probably can. I myself gave feedback on how it'd be nice to have an expanded power menu for power users.
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You do realize its a developer's preview/BETA right ? So its kinda gonna be a mess since they're still working the kinks out AND asking for feedback. So those complaints you have? (Which are legitimate i agree) Click the little N button in the the pull-down menu and let google know. That's how an open beta works.Hopefully they fix it and if not the bright minds here on XDA probably can. I myself gave feedback on how it'd be nice to have an expanded power menu for power users.
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I am familiar with the reporting process, and I have made dozens of suggestions.
MIUI 8 Have multi window feature....
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