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Hi there,
I have been stumbling across some awesome CM10 themes and it's something I'd like to have although they are only for CM9 and CM10. I'm currently running rooted stock nexus 4, whats the benefits of having a rom like CM10 - does CM10 run 4.2.1? which is what im currently using?
Whats are the positives and negatives to switching?
If i switch, can I convert BACK to stock?
1. Use the search feature. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35521539
2. CM10 = Android 4.1.X....... does not support Android 4.2.X and does not support N4 (mako)
3. first link. no negatives. its like reformatting your computer. If you go to Windows 8 and don't like it, go back to Windows 7.. what are the negatives? none. just reinstall apps... use titanium backup to backup/restore apps (buy pro version)
4. Yes you can revert back to stock. Nothing is permanent on android.
......... next time, do some research before just straight up asking these questions as they are already answered.
T89 said:
Hi there,
I have been stumbling across some awesome CM10 themes and it's something I'd like to have although they are only for CM9 and CM10. I'm currently running rooted stock nexus 4, whats the benefits of having a rom like CM10 - does CM10 run 4.2.1? which is what im currently using?
Whats are the positives and negatives to switching?
If i switch, can I convert BACK to stock?
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a big positive with AOKP is the ability to add in and customize the on screen nav bar buttons. i came from a gs2. so setting this phone to have the same layout as my gs2 capacitive buttons is a real winner. you can also rearrange the order of and how many toggles there are in the quick settings drop down. there is a whole list of features that you get and the devving has only just begun.
phermey said:
a big positive with AOKP is the ability to add in and customize the on screen nav bar buttons. i came from a gs2. so setting this phone to have the same layout as my gs2 capacitive buttons is a real winner. you can also rearrange the order of and how many toggles there are in the quick settings drop down. there is a whole list of features that you get and the devving has only just begun.
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CM10.1 (Jellybro) already has Navigation Bar changes. It's better off getting used to those three buttons IMO, menu is useless for me. I prefer having it as a touch button somewhere on the app. If not then I'll use the bottom right one.
You can arrange toggles on quick settings drop down as well on CM10.1.
CM10.1 is a ongoing project and is developing really fast without dirty hacks that AOKP does. Very clean code.
zephiK said:
CM10.1 (Jellybro) already has Navigation Bar changes. It's better off getting used to those three buttons IMO, menu is useless for me. I prefer having it as a touch button somewhere on the app. If not then I'll use the bottom right one.
You can arrange toggles on quick settings drop down as well on CM10.1.
CM10.1 is a ongoing project and is developing really fast without dirty hacks that AOKP does. Very clean code.
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i got tired of trying to figure out how to get into settings. and even worse... nova settings. so used to it being the menu key that i had to get it back.
tried out cm. a week ago. it was behind aokp in features so i went back to aokp. couldnt speak for what it has so i gave examples of what i know.
clean code or not. aokp has always suited my needs better than cm. but thats just me.
phermey said:
i got tired of trying to figure out how to get into settings. and even worse... nova settings. so used to it being the menu key that i had to get it back.
tried out cm. a week ago. it was behind aokp in features so i went back to aokp. couldnt speak for what it has so i gave examples of what i know.
clean code or not. aokp has always suited my needs better than cm. but thats just me.
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Pull down notifications -> Tiles -> Settings. Guess I got accustomed to it on my Galaxy Nexus where there wasn't a tile button. It was just pull down notifications -> settings. It takes some time getting used to it, but it's pretty good imo. But that's the best part about android you can do it the way you like it, traditionally or the new way
I used to like AOKP but felt it was too bloated with unnecessary crap like AOKP Wallpapers (Swagpapers), unnecessary unicorn stuff etc. I prefer CM as its cleaner code and more optimal whereas AOKP does things in 'hackish' code and just like what the name implies, it's kanged from CM sources anyway.
zephiK said:
Pull down notifications -> Tiles -> Settings. Guess I got accustomed to it on my Galaxy Nexus where there wasn't a tile button. It was just pull down notifications -> settings. It takes some time getting used to it, but it's pretty good imo. But that's the best part about android you can do it the way you like it, traditionally or the new way
I used to like AOKP but felt it was too bloated with unnecessary crap like AOKP Wallpapers (Swagpapers), unnecessary unicorn stuff etc. I prefer CM as its cleaner code and more optimal whereas AOKP does things in 'hackish' code and just like what the name implies, it's kanged from CM sources anyway.
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lol. that damn pink unicorn is so old. the day it was released it got old, and every time someone tries to be cute by adding another wallpaper... i think to myself WHY!!!
one thing i loved about sticking cm on my nexus was that bad a$$ boot animation. once the first milestone get released i will definitely be checking cm out again. you are also 100% correct on the code thing. and i never thought of the meaning of kang. <--- good point.
phermey said:
lol. that damn pink unicorn is so old. the day it was released it got old, and every time someone tries to be cute by adding another wallpaper... i think to myself WHY!!!
one thing i loved about sticking cm on my nexus was that bad a$$ boot animation. once the first milestone get released i will definitely be checking cm out again. you are also 100% correct on the code thing. and i never thought of the meaning of kang. <--- good point.
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haha yeah i was annoyed of keep having to remove AOKPClock, SwagPapers, Swag Toggle like wth... unnecessary line of code. i do love the amount of customization in there though. i used xylon on my galaxy nexus before i got my N4 (it started coming to rise at 4.2.X) its pretty customizable as well, very feature rich.
does AOKP have navigation height / width adjustments in the ROM already? i miss that feature, CM has everything I want as of right now. only missing nav height changes. can't wait for PGM for N4 though http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bZEodCnYv58#t=14s is a brief video of what it is. i love it because i dont have to use the buttons
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haha yeah i was annoyed of keep having to remove AOKPClock, SwagPapers, Swag Toggle like wth... unnecessary line of code. i do love the amount of customization in there though. i used xylon on my galaxy nexus before i got my N4 (it started coming to rise at 4.2.X) its pretty customizable as well, very feature rich.
does AOKP have navigation height / width adjustments in the ROM already? i miss that feature, CM has everything I want as of right now. only missing nav height changes. can't wait for PGM for N4 though http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bZEodCnYv58#t=14s is a brief video of what it is. i love it because i dont have to use the buttons
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they also just stuck in some arrow keys when the keyboard is active.
will check out that video. saw the thread in themes and had no clue what it was.
edit. that is pretty cool. does that also mean the phone never sleeps? and i dunno how you managed to get that video to load at 14s. but you the man for doing it. i see the #t=14s. learn something new every day.
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they also just stuck in some arrow keys when the keyboard is active.
will check out that video. saw the thread in themes and had no clue what it was.
edit. that is pretty cool. does that also mean the phone never sleeps? and i dunno how you managed to get that video to load at 14s. but you the man for doing it.
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Ah I don't need arrows, I actually prefer them to be normal size. AOKP probably has this feature already, CM has a feature in which if you are on a entry field (typing) you can use volume keys.. up and down to move left and right of your words if you choose to (can be disabled).
the phone does sleep, it's built into a kernel module and uses very minimal battery life. I've used it since I saw it on the GN apps forum. if you use light flow, it probably uses the same amount of battery (or less). lightflow barely interferes with the phone's battery life.
oh that's easy.. just go to any youtube video and right click the video and click "Copy current url at current time" I figured I would save you some time and get to the point
zephiK said:
Ah I don't need arrows, I actually prefer them to be normal size. AOKP probably has this feature already, CM has a feature in which if you are on a entry field (typing) you can use volume keys.. up and down to move left and right of your words if you choose to (can be disabled).
the phone does sleep, it's built into a kernel module and uses very minimal battery life. I've used it since I saw it on the GN apps forum. if you use light flow, it probably uses the same amount of battery (or less). lightflow barely interferes with the phone's battery life.
oh that's easy.. just go to any youtube video and right click the video and click "Copy current url at current time" I figured I would save you some time and get to the point
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i dont use light flow. aokp has something similar baked in.
that pgm app keeps looking better and better. i will be using it. thanks
Can you use custom nav bars on cm10 ?
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colobos said:
Can you use custom nav bars on cm10 ?
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Custom nav bars as in... what? You can modify your nav bar to your liking.
Home back recents
Recents Back Home......... whatever combo you want.
i dont use light flow. aokp has something similar baked in.
that pgm app keeps looking better and better. i will be using it. thanks
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Don't try using it on N4. Not supported yet. Will most likely cause problems if you try it.
zephiK said:
1. Use the search feature. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35521539
2. CM10 = Android 4.1.X....... does not support Android 4.2.X and does not support N4 (mako)
3. first link. no negatives. its like reformatting your computer. If you go to Windows 8 and don't like it, go back to Windows 7.. what are the negatives? none. just reinstall apps... use titanium backup to backup/restore apps (buy pro version)
4. Yes you can revert back to stock. Nothing is permanent on android.
......... next time, do some research before just straight up asking these questions as they are already answered.
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Asking people for their opinions is different to research. I would have to search soo many cm posts to find opinions or I could ask. This forum is q and a so please stop.
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Also, and thanks everyone for your replies I think I'll stick with what I have.
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Came from Iphone where you can use camera even from a passcode-locked lockscreen. All the answers on the net require a NON-passcode locked lockscreen to get to the camera.
Are there any ways around this?
Thanks
Settings>My Device>Lock Screen
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starmanj said:
Came from Iphone where you can use camera even from a passcode-locked lockscreen. All the answers on the net require a NON-passcode locked lockscreen to get to the camera.
Are there any ways around this?
Thanks
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I think this is a limitation from Touchwiz. I don't have CM on my phone atm to confirm, but I know that the lockscreen Pin lock behavior is different on the Nexus 7. Meaning the key difference is the fact that on my Nexus 7 I can still use other widgets (Google Now or HD Widgets) on the Pin lock, whereas SGS4 TW does not allow that...
Nope. Wrong. Try adding a passcode and then try adding a camera widget.
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Settings>My Device>Lock Screen
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I think this is a limitation from Touchwiz. I don't have CM on my phone atm to confirm, but I know that the lockscreen Pin lock behavior is different on the Nexus 7. Meaning the key difference is the fact that on my Nexus 7 I can still use other widgets (Google Now or HD Widgets) on the Pin lock, whereas SGS4 TW does not allow that...
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This is correct.... Just tested this on PAC ROM and I could access the camera and other lock screen widgets with both a pattern and pin lock
Right, but is there a ROM or tool to make this work on a Galaxy S4? captivatingtab did you try this on your tab or S4? Also I don't use Touchwiz, I use Nova, which still has this limitation-- so I think it's the ATT Samsung ROM.
It amazes me that ATT/Samsung/Google could put out a ROM that (at least for me) is so buggy and misses key features. Don't want to get into the host of bugs I've found, just trying to get to camera quickly...
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Right, but is there a ROM or tool to make this work on a Galaxy S4? captivatingtab did you try this on your tab or S4? Also I don't use Touchwiz, I use Nova, which still has this limitation-- so I think it's the ATT Samsung ROM.
It amazes me that ATT/Samsung/Google could put out a ROM that (at least for me) is so buggy and misses key features. Don't want to get into the host of bugs I've found, just trying to get to camera quickly...
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It is the problem with Touchwiz, no matter what custom launcher you run, Lockscreen is still controlled by Touchwiz. Nova(or any other launcher) only replaces the default Touch wiz launchers Touchwiz Home or Easy Launcher, so you are still using Touchwiz with Nova installed, just not the launcher it provides.
This is a Touchwiz problem, having used an HTC One you can access 4 different apps including the Camera from the lock screen as your dock is visible on the lock screen.
If you flash a AOSP rom this problem will most likely go away.
starmanj said:
Came from Iphone where you can use camera even from a passcode-locked lockscreen. All the answers on the net require a NON-passcode locked lockscreen to get to the camera.
Are there any ways around this?
Thanks
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There is an alternative lock screen app called LockerPro in the Play store does what you ask, as well a providing lock screen notifications. I think you may still need to enter your PIN before accessing the camera if the timeout has expired, but its still a shortcut. There is a free version called LockerPro Lite that you can try out.
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I tried lockerpro, it doesn't work unless you enter pin as well. Thanks for information, looks like Touchwiz is way behind times-- Iphone has had this for a while, and even before it was on IOS there were Cydia apps that could do this. I'm astonished Android can't do this.
So I guess I have to throw out the AT&T ROM to get rid of Touchwiz?
I have to agree with the OP. I came from an iPhone, and I actually like touchwiz. But not having the ability to use lockscreen widgets with security options is pretty ridiculous.
It should be the users choice to have certain functions available without a password/lock. I understand Samsung attempted to make the device more secure and prevent "uninformed" users from making mistakes; but It should be our choice what we put out there. IMHO.
I not a developer by far, and a long-time lurker of XDA, I wish I had the ability to change Touchwiz to include this.
starmanj said:
Thanks for information, looks like Touchwiz is way behind times-- Iphone has had this for a while, and even before it was on IOS there were Cydia apps that could do this. I'm astonished Android can't do this.
So I guess I have to throw out the AT&T ROM to get rid of Touchwiz?
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Lets clear some things up...
First and foremost, Touchwiz is the name of the User Interface that we see. Its not an application, it is not a launcher (Nova) or anything, just the User Interface. With that said, Touchwiz features are the extra gimmicks added to the phone like Air View and whatnot. This is the ROM given by Samsung as stock, it has nothing to do with Android itself. So comparing Apple to Oranges (Samsung) is different than comparing iOS to Android (which you are not doing).
So "being behind on times" has nothing to do with Android itself. If you were to load a AOSP (Android Open Source Project) ROM is it the same? Running AOSP on the phone is a different experience than running Touchwiz. It is closer to the Nexus stock experience than using Samsung stock ROM and is what Google wants as Android. So if you want to compare Android and state that your astonished it doesn't do something, then test it on AOSP based ROM and see if Android could do it.
As it has been confirmed anyways that what you want can be done running an AOSP ROM...
captivatingtab said:
This is correct.... Just tested this on PAC ROM and I could access the camera and other lock screen widgets with both a pattern and pin lock
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nakedninja42 you are absolutely correct, thanks. I should say that I'm astonished that Samsung wouldn't offer this on their ROM.
Having said that, and maybe off-topic, my conclusion in moving from Apple to Android is Google allows far too much modification from the manufacturers and carriers to ensure a consistently good experience. Perhaps that's the nature of its open-source approach, but man has it been a massive pain trying to get a quality experience. Bluetooth problems, terrible lag, inconsistent application of UI rules, terrible battery drain-- in exchange for a more open environment (which, yes, is very important to me). Jury is out, I'm still trying to find a good working environment, not giving up yet.
starmanj said:
nakedninja42 you are absolutely correct, thanks. I should say that I'm astonished that Samsung wouldn't offer this on their ROM.
Having said that, and maybe off-topic, my conclusion in moving from Apple to Android is Google allows far too much modification from the manufacturers and carriers to ensure a consistently good experience. Perhaps that's the nature of its open-source approach, but man has it been a massive pain trying to get a quality experience. Bluetooth problems, terrible lag, inconsistent application of UI rules, terrible battery drain-- in exchange for a more open environment (which, yes, is very important to me). Jury is out, I'm still trying to find a good working environment, not giving up yet.
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But as the consumer you have the choice on what you buy. If you want something that has X set of features you can buy it (Nexus for example), if you want other features you buy a different phone. This is not unlike buying a car - most cars (these days) have Bluetooth, but the implementations vary greatly.
You bought a phone with Android, and most stores let you compare dozens of models side by side. If Camera on the lock screen is a requirement, it is easy to test drive to find one that supports this.
My phone is rooted and stock - it has no lag and works fantastically well with superior battery life to any smartphone i have owned. Touchwiz is not perfect, but neither is stock android IMO.
Yes, this is off topic, but the point is that if you want only one way to do something, and only one way, then Apple is for you. I recommend iphones to the technically challenged and older people - they can't get lost. The home button is always there and bails them out from any screen. And I can always help them get to settings and menus are 100% consistent. These people don't want widgets and don't want to do any customization, they want simple consistent experience. Android gives choices and that may mean that one phone has a feature that another phone does not. But then there are 3rd party apps that usually step in to fix things.
Widget locker may let you put the camera on the lockscreen - has anyone tried that?
starmanj said:
Came from Iphone where you can use camera even from a passcode-locked lockscreen. All the answers on the net require a NON-passcode locked lockscreen to get to the camera.
Are there any ways around this?
Thanks
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Kjay's framework allows it. You'll need to be on a BMEA ROM to use iy though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42350844
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starmanj said:
nakedninja42 you are absolutely correct, thanks. I should say that I'm astonished that Samsung wouldn't offer this on their ROM.
Having said that, and maybe off-topic, my conclusion in moving from Apple to Android is Google allows far too much modification from the manufacturers and carriers to ensure a consistently good experience. Perhaps that's the nature of its open-source approach, but man has it been a massive pain trying to get a quality experience. Bluetooth problems, terrible lag, inconsistent application of UI rules, terrible battery drain-- in exchange for a more open environment (which, yes, is very important to me). Jury is out, I'm still trying to find a good working environment, not giving up yet.
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The nature of the game... Open-Source...
I haven't had any battery drains... in fact when I go to bed at night, I have ~50% left with the same usage I had on the S3 @ 10%. GoldenEye ROM solved all my other qualms with TouchWiz. I did find it annoying that I cannot use my widgets on the lockscreen that I removed my pattern/pin lock. I generally prefer running AOSP ROMs like CyanogenMOD, but I am waiting for the release of the Google SGS4 to see if the stability improves.
Yes I am waiting for the Google S4 ROM as well. I have CM on all my HP Touchpads so am a bit leary of quality of the device drivers for S4 at this point. The official Google version will fix that.
Theoretically, couldn't someone just find the files for the lockscreen and edit the code to allow it? I mean, it's like natively there already - right?
I haven't tried any custom ROMs, in fact i am pretty close to what the OP is describing, coming from an iPhone and having the learning experience. But I am really bummed I can't do it. lol
So bottom line is there any ROM that will allow the use of camera shortcuts or lockscreen widgets while having a secure lockscreen?
blackguy101 said:
So bottom line is there any ROM that will allow the use of camera shortcuts or lockscreen widgets while having a secure lockscreen?
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TW no, AOSP yes.
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shadowfiber said:
Theoretically, couldn't someone just find the files for the lockscreen and edit the code to allow it? I mean, it's like natively there already - right?
I haven't tried any custom ROMs, in fact i am pretty close to what the OP is describing, coming from an iPhone and having the learning experience. But I am really bummed I can't do it. lol
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Theoretically, yes. I am interested in this myself. I started programming a year ago and haven't had time to learn the ends and outs for Android to try yet. I am hoping someone with greater talents might be able to do it...
Hey everyone!
I've been looking to get back into ROM development, after a too much so extended break.
So what exactly would you all like to see? Stock, or AOSP? If so, what would you like out of either of these? Leave me some feedback, and let me know what you all would like to see. ^_^
I'd love something like these:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2266993
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349656
Stock ROM with ports, activated features that were previously hidden, new features...
I'm getting this beauty in a few months when I pass by the US, so I'd love something for it. But seems like 4.2.2 for it is just around the corner, so you could wait a bit before doing anything based on stock...
And, on 4.2.2, PLEASE do one of these hacks that bring the 4.1.2 System Layout back. I hate the 4.2.2 one (status bar at top, buttons at bottom). Suck a waste of screen space...
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I'd love something like these:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2266993
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349656
Stock ROM with ports, activated features that were previously hidden, new features...
I'm getting this beauty in a few months when I pass by the US, so I'd love something for it. But seems like 4.2.2 for it is just around the corner, so you could wait a bit before doing anything based on stock...
And, on 4.2.2, PLEASE do one of these hacks that bring the 4.1.2 System Layout back. I hate the 4.2.2 one (status bar at top, buttons at bottom). Suck a waste of screen space...
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Yeah, I'll likely be waiting on 4.2.2. And that's also assuming that Sony didn't go ahead and rectify that on the 4.2.2 build. (As that's a rather offsetting UI change.)
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Yeah, I'll likely be waiting on 4.2.2. And that's also assuming that Sony didn't go ahead and rectify that on the 4.2.2 build. (As that's a rather offsetting UI change.)
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Thanks. As I've been reading with some people with info, they are finalizing the software. Also, seems like you're a really good dev. Coming from the Samsung Epic 4G and the LG G2x. Can't wait to get my hands on this tablet and also seeing your work here.
See ya another time, bro
i would love you if you could do something similar to slimbean
+1 for something stock based!
Because I definitely want the special features (MHL, IR blaster, Small Apps etc.), and in AOSP-based ROMs it seems rather unlikely that we will get these...
yeah, stock based would be awesome. do not want to miss out on some cool features like the remote control etc
do people look in the development section. Apache; a contest winner is making a ir blaster for aosp roms so we can use tablet as remote
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Yeah, honestly I was thinking something stock based as well, unless I can port some of the features to a CM or AOSP based rom. Truth be told, I actually prefer the Sony interface over AOSP; and I'm a huge AOSP supporter. Sony did it right with their interface. Minimal additions, but all seemingly add to the appeal of the interface. The small apps are quite nice too; and those would be rather hellish to port to AOSP.
@skiwong20 ; That's fine and dandy, but the application is far from mature at this point, and it's hardly the most appealing looking application at this time. No disrespect to the developer, as he's done a great job. But the maturity of the application simply isn't there, yet.
The ROM style I dig is best summed up with a look at the Viper ROMs on HTC devices. Mostly stock, but with an external mod supplied app that allows to toggle all the small and nifty tidbits... Changing app drawer grid size, modifying hardware buttons and the behavior of the soft buttons.
Adding stuff like: quick double tap on task manager icon does not bring up the app list but just toggles back to the last used app. Double tap Home goes directly to Google Now or something else, user-configrable, etc.
If its unclear let me knoe, and I will elaborate, its late here, need to sleep
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Hey everyone!
I've been looking to get back into ROM development, after a too much so extended break.
So what exactly would you all like to see? Stock, or AOSP? If so, what would you like out of either of these? Leave me some feedback, and let me know what you all would like to see. ^_^
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I'd like a port of the Nexus 7 Ubuntu desktop ROM to this tablet. I know folks like android, but this thing is basically an HD-res desktop PC. That's thinner than a pencil.
The main hiccup is the Xorg driver, but I think this has some probability of working: http://freedreno.github.io/
Anyway, I'd be willing to collaborate on it, but I'd like to see Ubuntu Core working on this without all the Ubuntu Touch bits...
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Got mine for one week, is there hidden stuff that I missed ?
Not so much developement in this section, definitely recovery for locked bootloader is missing, I don't really need it myself as I'll unlock it soon when more stuff will be available but some have requested.
An Advanced Stock Kernel would be cool too, for now only DoomKernel is available.
Just what comes in mind...
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Got mine for one week, is there hidden stuff that I missed ?
Not so much developement in this section, definitely recovery for locked bootloader is missing, I don't really need it myself as I'll unlock it soon when more stuff will be available but some have requested.
An Advanced Stock Kernel would be cool too, for now only DoomKernel is available.
Just what comes in mind...
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I don't know exactly in Tablet Z, but if you decompile some apps from Xperia S, Xperia Z, there are stuff in bools.xml, for example, that activates some nice stuff. Sadly, no one managed yet to deodex the stock ROM, that's why there is no stock based ROMs around. You need a deodexed ROM to make some mods...
Tough choice, dev. Stock looks really cool and keeping the functionality of the multitasking windows and the IR blaster would obviously be great, but isn't the lag quite bad in simple scrolling of home screens? I would say pure Android would be better on this device but that is just my humble opinion :cyclops:
Looking forward to seeing your great work.
Well I'm running CM10.1 on my Xperia Z Tablet SGP311 - works pretty well, no GPS, no IR Blaster
Although it has the horrible navigation buttons in the middle - I'm always hitting either home or back or multi-task when I'm typing away furiously - but I must admit that I like the top use for notifications. Seems logical to have it up the top.
Either way OP all I'm after is the something regularly maintained, with good communication. I know thats a lot to ask, but its critical if people want to use your hard work.
Thanks in advance mate.
Tel'X
1: How easy is it to root a G2? I am very interested in running pure android on it.
2: Is rooting and going pure Android worth doing, or do you lose useful features by doing that?
3:How is the Dev community for this phone. Are there lots of people working on Roms and such?
4: Is there anything you guys can think of that I should know before making this switch to this phone? IE Hardware or software problems, advice, anything
5: Does the G2 have wireless charging like my Nexus 7 does? Does it have HDMI out as well?
1. Very easy, matter of connencting phone and running special exe
2. You don't loose anything, just warranty is void in when your phone is rooted, but you can easily get back to stock.
3. Not yet, but G2 community grows fast.
4. As ex-galaxian user getting used to buttons on back of the phone was pretty hard, but I'm ok with it now.
5. As I know only verizon version has this feature.
Apologize for my English.
razdar said:
1. Very easy, matter of connencting phone and running special exe
2. You don't loose anything, just warranty is void in when your phone is rooted, but you can easily get back to stock.
3. Not yet, but G2 community grows fast.
4. As ex-galaxian user getting used to buttons on back of the phone was pretty hard, but I'm ok with it now.
5. As I know only verizon version has this feature.
Apologize for my English.
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Thanks! One last question, is Wifi Hotspot enabled on this phone? What if it is running a custom ROM?
WiFi hotspot works well, both for stock and Cyanogenmod .
Thank you, Razdar the Helpful! I shall sacrifice several beers in your honor later this evening!
No problem my friend. Making iPhone user pick android is always worth time . Feel free to ask if you have further questions about G2 :laugh:.
Actually yes when going back to stock rom your running stock android... which is a pretty light weight operating system... you are loosing some useful features in the g2 such as Knock on from homescreen which can be easily solved with apex launcher or nova launcher prime... however things i like about stock are texting pop ups that are very handy if your in the middle of something but want to reply quick... also the calling pop up i think is very nice because you can just swipe it up and it cancles the ring but keeps the call going (very useful if you like to let people think you arnt ignoring them haha) but other things such as quick memo and the built in application Quickremote... many other features to granite with CM or any other rom its gonna have some features to but for your instance before roming id give stock LG's UI a try before you go to roming the device... i did the same and am having a very positive experience... also right now im running stock rom with pie controlls and its very nice without the nav bar... the full screen and LG's UI is a win for me... however im a ROM junky so ill eventually rom it haha just keep in mind things like quick remote and quickmemo/ long hold on the power button down to launch camera app... however i do believe quick remote is accessable on an AOSP rom just look through the threads for it Hope this helped
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Actually yes when going back to stock rom your running stock android... which is a pretty light weight operating system... you are loosing some useful features in the g2 such as Knock on from homescreen which can be easily solved with apex launcher or nova launcher prime... however things i like about stock are texting pop ups that are very handy if your in the middle of something but want to reply quick... also the calling pop up i think is very nice because you can just swipe it up and it cancles the ring but keeps the call going (very useful if you like to let people think you arnt ignoring them haha) but other things such as quick memo and the built in application Quickremote... many other features to granite with CM or any other rom its gonna have some features to but for your instance before roming id give stock LG's UI a try before you go to roming the device... i did the same and am having a very positive experience... also right now im running stock rom with pie controlls and its very nice without the nav bar... the full screen and LG's UI is a win for me... however im a ROM junky so ill eventually rom it haha just keep in mind things like quick remote and quickmemo/ long hold on the power button down to launch camera app... however i do believe quick remote is accessable on an AOSP rom just look through the threads for it Hope this helped
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Nailed it on the head. Didn't bother ROMing after using stock UI for a while. I'd miss the features like the pop ups too much.
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Nailed it on the head. Didn't bother ROMing after using stock UI for a while. I'd miss the features like the pop ups too much.
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Honestly i think the only rom i would get stuck on is Cleanrom but its just a copy with better performance haha it upsets me when people compare this UI to touchwiz and say it has useless features xD
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Honestly i think the only rom i would get stuck on is Cleanrom but its just a copy with better performance haha it upsets me when people compare this UI to touchwiz and say it has useless features xD
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That's the only ROM I was planning to switch to. Yeah, I know, I don't understand how people can claim that LG's UI is as bad or worse than TouchWiz. Personally, I think people that are making thise claims are just looking for something negative. It's not obtrusive and features can easily be switched off unlike TouchWiz where you have to hunt for everything.
Creating this thread for all the changes and improvements done in Stable Samsung UI 3.0 & Android 11 for Note 20 Ultras. Please post even the smallest changes done as well. Mentioning the few ones I have gotten to know. There are threads created for the beta versions where information is not consolidated. So creating one for the stable version.
Blurred Notification Panel
Caller Background
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Keep them coming guys.
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Creating this thread for all the changes and improvements done in Stable Samsung UI 3.0 & Android 11 for Note 20 Ultras. Please post even the smallest changes done as well. Mentioning the few ones I have gotten to know. There are threads created for the beta versions where information is not consolidated. So creating one for the stable version.
Blurred Notification Panel
Caller Background
Re designed Volume Slider
Re sizable PIP
Keep them coming guys.
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I just updated my unlocked Ultra to TMobile using Frija. My PIP isn't working, stops playing every time.
TechGoon954 said:
I just updated my unlocked Ultra to TMobile using Frija. My PIP isn't working, stops playing every time.
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Why would you do this? Just curious!!
warriorvibhu said:
Why would you do this? Just curious!!
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Why would I do what, update to One UI 3.0 ? I purchased my device unlocked from Samsung and I'm on Tmobile, for some reasons I never get the updates. I was on the beta and liked it. FYI, I fixed the YouTube issue, so I'm good.
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Why would I do what, update to One UI 3.0 ? I purchased my device unlocked from Samsung and I'm on Tmobile, for some reasons I never get the updates. I was on the beta and liked it. FYI, I fixed the YouTube issue, so I'm good.
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Wanted to know why would you change your device from U1 to U in any case good that you fixed your issue.
enjoylife1788 said:
Creating this thread for all the changes and improvements done in Stable Samsung UI 3.0 & Android 11 for Note 20 Ultras. Please post even the smallest changes done as well. Mentioning the few ones I have gotten to know. There are threads created for the beta versions where information is not consolidated. So creating one for the stable version.
Blurred Notification Panel
Caller Background
Re designed Volume Slider
Re sizable PIP
Keep them coming guys.
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The new font for the AOD, Lockscreen, and Notification shade is old school Samsung (S3 style). Also, the squircle icons in settings. The update breaks many themes so I'd perhaps wait until developers can update. Overall, I'm not thrilled with the update and will try to rollback until things are fixed.
I find the finger print reader works a lot better than it did before. I hated it before but works well now.
Still no esim on US unlocked devices..
Got the 3.0 update today on my N986B UK unlocked. I like the double tap to turn off the screen - I was missing that coming from a OnePlus 7T.
Not sure I like the strange new look of the volume controls though. To me they look like a row of test tubes filled with different levels of liquid. They don't match the rest of the UI. I'll give them a bit longer to see if I can get used to them, but I may switch back to the old volume controls via Good Lock. I'm also kinda missing the chunky app icons from before. The new itty bitty icons look too small to my eyes.
On the plus side the fingerprint reader is definitely quicker and more accurate now. All in all the switch from Android 10 to 11 on the Note 20 Ultra definitely feels like more of a leap forward than it did on my Pixels where the improvements were almost too subtle to notice.
hello I got update android 11 ui 3 on unlocked usa version note 20 ultra, is it smooth or will it break the device?
one thing I miss is in Settings/Apps you cannot see the system apps anymore, which I miss, and in developer options the options to select icon shape is gone, but otherwise not much to complain about, wish Android would sort out the icon shapes, Google has now gone from the round to rounded squares, Huawei just went from rounded squares to circles, Samsung is squircle (now with no option to change it) unless you go for themes (even then the themes dont changes settings icons) so thats not ideal. But so far battery life is a good step up, only been running 11 for 3 days but am at 6 hrs SoT with 50% battery left (see screengrab) I never go that on Android 10.
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Why would I do what, update to One UI 3.0 ? I purchased my device unlocked from Samsung and I'm on Tmobile, for some reasons I never get the updates. I was on the beta and liked it. FYI, I fixed the YouTube issue, so I'm good.
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How did you fix it, I have same issue.
Coalcat said:
hello I got update android 11 ui 3 on unlocked usa version note 20 ultra, is it smooth or will it break the device?
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I like it, I got it yesterday and so far is very smooth and battery life seems longer
jionny said:
I like it, I got it yesterday and so far is very smooth and battery life seems longer
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Thanks for the answer. I was afraid ,but if it has no bugs,I will update the phone.
Jostian said:
How did you fix it, I have same issue.
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I toggled the refresh rate between 90 and 120, it worked fine for a day, but no it's back
Is there a big difference between unlocked and carrier versions? I've tried both and really do not see any difference, other than the carrier apps.
Jostian said:
one thing I miss is in Settings/Apps you cannot see the system apps anymore, which I miss, and in developer options the options to select icon shape is gone, but otherwise not much to complain about, wish Android would sort out the icon shapes, Google has now gone from the round to rounded squares, Huawei just went from rounded squares to circles, Samsung is squircle (now with no option to change it) unless you go for themes (even then the themes dont changes settings icons) so thats not ideal. But so far battery life is a good step up, only been running 11 for 3 days but am at 6 hrs SoT with 50% battery left (see screengrab) I never go that on Android 10.
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Wait what you mean? We can not see the system apps that is installed anymore?
lyzgaard said:
Wait what you mean? We can not see the system apps that is installed anymore?
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Yeah you can still see system apps.
@pimpmaneaton, man is that setting menu easy to overlook when you don't know it's there...
Jostian said:
one thing I miss is in Settings/Apps you cannot see the system apps anymore, which I miss, and in developer options the options to select icon shape is gone, but otherwise not much to complain about, wish Android would sort out the icon shapes, Google has now gone from the round to rounded squares, Huawei just went from rounded squares to circles, Samsung is squircle (now with no option to change it) unless you go for themes (even then the themes dont changes settings icons) so thats not ideal. But so far battery life is a good step up, only been running 11 for 3 days but am at 6 hrs SoT with 50% battery left (see screengrab) I never go that on Android 10.
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is that Note 20 ultra exynos??