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I am just another angry user, after the "fabulous" android 4.4.2 implementation made by Samsung for my (previously) beloved note3.
This is intended to be a an indictment made for a public conviction of Samsung, for what they did, and also a cry for help.
Please, if you have counterarguments and/or practical advices, expose them here.
I'm expecting at least an official position from Samsung, considering that customers of a 700 Euro flagship phablet deserve their complete attention.
I'm an Orange Romania customer, and I was one of the happy users of note3 (Orange firmware) until several days ago, when I decided to give up to the upgrade invitation message arrived, to move up to 4.4.2.
What I received:
1. The first and most important problem: no call recording program is working anymore. I do need such a program, because I receive a lot (I mean A LOT) of tasks and situations, only by voice calls, daily. Anyway, i really do not think I need to justify my needs, but I'm prepared to do it if absolutely necessary. Where is the solution, my "dear" Samsung ?
2. I'm not able anymore to read my IMAP4 mail account without activating synchronization. In the previous 4.3 version, with synchronization disabled, I was able to refresh manually the mail. Of course, with synchronization now enabled, the battery is drained in a day or less.
3. iGO cannot be used with maps and content kept on SD Card anymore. I've taken that SD card especially for my phone, now I am not able to use it. This is like a curse of Samsung, thrown in my face !
4. Adobe flash is now completely unusable. I used flash with dolphin very well on previous 4.3. Now, that hacked version presented here (thank you XDA) is extremely slow even on this monster hardware that is note 3. Where is that big difference from Apple, one of the reasons I've switched to Android several years ago, to be able to browse flash sites ?
5. If I'm not happy with an "improvement" offered by manufacturer, I think I'm entitled to request to keep my previous system, without any penalties (only at most with some excuses), but Samsung do not let me go back to the previous behavior of my phone. So, I'm not free anymore to use my own device as I wanted to do ? What the hell? What is then the difference that Samsung made in terms of freedom of use compared to Apple, well-known for their restrictions paranoia ? The freedom of Android and the efficiency of Samsung made me switch from Apple for good, several years ago, without regrets, but now Samsung seems that they started on the same path of restrictions. Maybe is time to look somewhere else and switch again...
I really think Samsung has to solve this. But not next month or next week, nor even tomorrow. Samsung must do something NOW: or a patch, or the ability to switch back to the exact previous behavior with 4.3
Thank you all for your opinions and (of course) valuable solutions.
LE:
Finally, after a long pain, a lot of nerves, but thanks to the supporting messages posted here, I've succeeded to "downgrade" my Note3 with kitkat , by changing it with a new one with latest JB 4.3 version, just asking for tech support at Orange and Samsung. If anyone interested, please read all thread, I simply asked them to restore lost functionalities, but I think I was really angry so their solution was to change the device.
Maybe some sticky messages (suggested in my post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51890578&postcount=22 would be useful for a lot of us).
The biggest problem is the Knox trigger that voids the warranty. I paid a lot of money for this phone and I should be able to use it however I want, rooted or unrooted, and they should have no right to void my warranty based on this.
I'm thinking to root this device and if I ever need to send the phone for repair and they won't, I'll play dumb and call for consumer rights.
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lvnatic said:
The biggest problem is the Knox trigger that voids the warranty. I paid a lot of money for this phone and I should be able to use it however I want, rooted or unrooted, and they should have no right to void my warranty based on this.
I'm thinking to root this device and if I ever need to send the phone for repair and they won't, I'll play dumb and call for consumer rights.
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I was going to buy this phone later but after reading the op I think I will wait first or look elsewhere. Samsung is really copying apple and apple should sue them again...
1. Call recording is working, there's a mod for that, but ur device should be rooted.
2-3. I dunno never use.
4. Flash player is working. There's a way to enable it in Kk, and can be used with boat browser (dunno others).
As for go back to 4.3, it is unable due to the bootloader installed. They keep on making patches to the bootloader. Something that we cannot stop them.
@nm8 : samsung vs apple = never ending stories.
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I could understand why all android devices manufacturers are trying to keep their customers away from rooting, this is just because possible increases in customer support expenses.
But of course, I don't want to break my warranty agreement, and with 4.3 I didn't feel the need to root the note 3, it was completely functional.
@nm8 - Yes, Apple could sue Samsung again, now Samsung is copying even the worst habits from Apple, I don't understand that crayziness of Samsung.
@antique_sonic - Thank you, I know about the mod for call recording, but as I said, I want to play fair and safe, to keep my warranty. And the same with adobe flash, it worked perfectly in 4.3, why do I need now that headaches ?
There are also a lot of other troubles with SD Card in 4.4.2, just another example: I'm not able to keep my apps backed up with ES file explorer on SD Card anymore. I used to make copies of my apps because I've met sometimes problems with some apps after updates, so I was able to return to the previous version of that app (AirFun from Realtek is just an example of an app that lost some functionalities after update, so I was able to install the previous working version from backup).
I wonder if there are some "eyes" from Samsung staff on this forum, what is their official opinion about all these complains ?
Thank you,
You do realize the SDcard issue is GOOGLE's doing, not Samsung's?
Google updates the Kitkat permissions, Samsung had nothing to do withit. Any issues with apps you need to complain to their developers to update their permissions.
Thank you ShadowLea, most probably you're right in technical terms.
BUT the real problem is, if I'm not happy with this change in Google's android policy, as a Samsung's customer, I need to be able to choose to keep my previous functions as they were before upgrade. In other words, I must be able to revert to 4.3, without any pain, penalties and so on, at most with excuses from Samsung. Because Samsung is now forcing me to stay at 4.4.2, not Google ! Is it fair ?
Thank you,
The flash player problem is also Google and not Samsung.
Life isn't fair and Samsung already have your money so why should they care?
It's not like the other options are any better. None of the other manufacturers care about you either.
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dr.m0x said:
The flash player problem is also Google and not Samsung.
Life isn't fair and Samsung already have your money so why should they care?
It's not like the other options are any better. None of the other manufacturers care about you either.
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He should root the monster and be happy. Like me. Lol
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He should root the monster and be happy. Like me. Lol
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Maybe you're right, but what about losing the warranty, if I will really need it in the future ?
Or maybe there is already out there a complete reversable rooting method for 4.4.2 that I don't know about ?
Thank you,
@dr.m0x - Ok, let's try to change something about this !
Still have no idea how to do it, but there must be a solution ! We must be the real owners of our paid devices, and we must be able to use them by our own rules, not their rules!
Thank you,
nick61 said:
Maybe you're right, but what about losing the warranty, if I will really need it in the future ?
Or maybe there is already out there a complete reversable rooting method for 4.4.2 that I don't know about ?
Thank you,
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reversable in terms of unroot = YES
reversable in terms of KNOX flag = NO (bounty hunter for this has reached $3K+, yet no one claims)
nick61 said:
@dr.m0x - Ok, let's try to change something about this !
Still have no idea how to do it, but there must be a solution ! We must be the real owners of our paid devices, and we must be able to use them by our own rules, not their rules!
Thank you,
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at the moment to be the "real owner" in terms to be able to fully utilize is only to root your device, and those "headache" setting for flash player. But "real owner" to be able to reverse KNOX flag is still a NO answer at the moment.
And "real owner" to be able to reverse/downgrade bootloader (without any problem), also stil a NO at the moment
Just do a few testing of common issue on Note 3 + read properly on how to root + use any other custom thingy (follow properly what the thread said), you are good to go.
Warranty so far is needed for those who never try to understand first what is the thread said.
Though all the devs here develop thing just for hobbies and free (donation is optional), they will do all the necessary testing on their device first before releasing it out. So, if their device can work, similar device to them should be able to work properly (doesn't necessary to claim your warranty, unless there's a hardware failure due to several tweaking you eager to try yourself without reading properly)
All I wrote here is just my opinion, just a thought. You may not agree, and not necessary to follow.
I'm totally with you... This actually looks like a "Double - penetration" by Sammy AND Google two companies destined to lose costumers... See? http://bbc.com/news/business-26933449
My unrooted, bloatware-ated, kit-kat-ed note 3 is half useful in practical terms than the rooted S3 I gave to my wife, if it weren't for the screen size, I would have change it with the old S3.
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I'm samsung user from galaxy s2, note 1. And now note 3. I'm happy to use both devices on previous.
But since knox implementation on note 3. I feel like stuck in some where I cannot do any what I want on the phone.
I though that having note 3 will same as having note 1 and s2. Freedom...
So, this probably will my last samsung device. Will switch to other brand if i change phone.
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When you look at the perspective of root/ void warranty everybrand is more or less the same except nexus and sime new china brands like xiaomi or oppo. In htc you void your warranty by unlockibg bootloader. Sony same thing (sony devices you can backup your ta) lg as qfuses and the list can be larger.
I had twice problems with samsung knoxed devices (2 s4) and they never rejected warranty repairs. And you can allways kill your device in order to cheat samsung service. Like they cheat you putt a flag on your phone. So I decided to trip mine again and if they refuse warranty I will be give them a nice war.
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Thank you all for your empathy and support.
Encouraged by all these messages, I've succeeded yesterday to CHANGE THE NOTE3 with a new one with latest 4.3 version at Orange service.
I don't know if they agreed to solve my request only because my old client status, but the service tech guy from Orange, specialized in Samsung devices, spent over 4 hours looking for all the flaws and troubles I've mentioned with 4.4.2. Also, he had several long phone conversations with a tech guy from Samsung.
My advice to everyone in the same situation is to try everything they could try, and also, if possible, DO NOT UPDATE TO 4.4.2 !
Now my device is completely restored to full functionalities: call recording, flash sites with the last official adobe flash apk and dolphin and reasonable speed, battery is again lasting at least 2 days of heavy use (calls, net, video, mails, everyday notes etc.)
Also, I've learned that even the "inside" guys from tech support have no other clever solution to downgrade or to solve my problems.
Both Orange and Samsung tech guys promised to inform and escalate my complaints about 4.4.2 implementation so maybe there will be a patch in the near future.
Thanks again XDA,
nick61 said:
I am just another angry user, after the "fabulous" android 4.4.2 implementation made by Samsung for my (previously) beloved note3.
This is intended to be a an indictment made for a public conviction of Samsung, for what they did, and also a cry for help.
Please, if you have counterarguments and/or practical advices, expose them here.
I'm expecting at least an official position from Samsung, considering that customers of a 700 Euro flagship phablet deserve their complete attention.
I'm an Orange Romania customer, and I was one of the happy users of note3 (Orange firmware) until several days ago, when I decided to give up to the upgrade invitation message arrived, to move up to 4.4.2.
What I received:
1. The first and most important problem: no call recording program is working anymore. I do need such a program, because I receive a lot (I mean A LOT) of tasks and situations, only by voice calls, daily. Anyway, i really do not think I need to justify my needs, but I'm prepared to do it if absolutely necessary. Where is the solution, my "dear" Samsung ?
2. I'm not able anymore to read my IMAP4 mail account without activating synchronization. In the previous 4.3 version, with synchronization disabled, I was able to refresh manually the mail. Of course, with synchronization now enabled, the battery is drained in a day or less.
3. iGO cannot be used with maps and content kept on SD Card anymore. I've taken that SD card especially for my phone, now I am not able to use it. This is like a curse of Samsung, thrown in my face !
4. Adobe flash is now completely unusable. I used flash with dolphin very well on previous 4.3. Now, that hacked version presented here (thank you XDA) is extremely slow even on this monster hardware that is note 3. Where is that big difference from Apple, one of the reasons I've switched to Android several years ago, to be able to browse flash sites ?
5. If I'm not happy with an "improvement" offered by manufacturer, I think I'm entitled to request to keep my previous system, without any penalties (only at most with some excuses), but Samsung do not let me go back to the previous behavior of my phone. So, I'm not free anymore to use my own device as I wanted to do ? What the hell? What is then the difference that Samsung made in terms of freedom of use compared to Apple, well-known for their restrictions paranoia ? The freedom of Android and the efficiency of Samsung made me switch from Apple for good, several years ago, without regrets, but now Samsung seems that they started on the same path of restrictions. Maybe is time to look somewhere else and switch again...
I really think Samsung has to solve this. But not next month or next week, nor even tomorrow. Samsung must do something NOW: or a patch, or the ability to switch back to the exact previous behavior with 4.3
1....pe forum gasesti versiunea modificata pentru adobe flash care merge f bine pe kitkat cu firefox de exemplu.
2. Daca copiezi continutul igo pe internal nu pe external o sa iti functioneze perfect. Oricum asta e vina google si nu samsung, si mai avem si 32 interni, deci destul loc
3. Pentru mail iti recomand K-9 mail client il regasesti pe play store.
4. Inregistrarea convorbirilor e putintel ilegala fara mandat...deci...cred totusi ca te plangi prea tare pt niste chestii care din cate stiu eu au toate rezolvare pe aici pe la xda
My poit is that all of his problems has an workaround here on xda. Only first one need a root. The rest of them is a metter of minutes of searching xda.
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@calinormy
Thank you for your message (let's keep it in english if anyone else is interested).
Point by point (in fact covered in the first post):
1. Yes, I've already tried the hacked flash for 4.4.2, is unbelievable slow on such a monster (hardware speaking) as note3. Official old version is stable and flawless in 4.3
2. Ok, that's true, but I want to use the internal speedy memory for other stuff, and I want to organize files on my own rules, not their's... yes, this is a Google's problem, but my request to Samsung is to let me downgrade from 4.4.2 if I do not like it.
3. I'll check it
4. Concerning call recording, the legal issues are exclusively my problems, not Samsung's. In fact, is not even a legal problem, if the other person is informed about recording.
But please read my last post, they've changed my phone with another new one with 4.3 !
Thank you,
Glad you got your problems sorted. KK is ****, said the man who refuses to try it. Because it's ****
New firmware doesn't always mean better. For me, Gingerbread was a hell of a lot better than ICS.
To be frank... I don't know what the hell is beneficial "for me" by upgrading to kitkat All the changes in KitKat are about implementing restrictions by Samsung or Google If I wanted to be restricted I would have chosen an iPhone in the first place... They simply sh&#tted on what all android is about :silly: and the as#hole sammy even lured people into upgrading. Never again will I trust all those official phone reviewers on forums or youtube... the ordinary man's experience is what counts.
I've been an iPhone user for years but I've always wanted to move on to Android because of how much more freedom it provides compared to IOS. Jailbreaking was somewhat simple to do but Apple would be quick to patch that out and they are just so restrictive, on top of having weak hardware it was enough for me to want to move on. I've owned my Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge for a week now and I'm still getting used to this new OS and so far I'm finding the edge screen to be annoying because the way I hold the phone my skin would touch the edge and it would just make the side bar continuously pull out. Anyways I'm looking to get the most out of my new phone.
1. Is there any way for me to prevent my phone from auto updating? yesterday it said there was an update available and I didnt want to immediately rush into updating on the chance I would be missing out on rooting my device but then a couple of hours later my phone would light up and it would update all my applications as well as the firmware without my consent. As wonderful as that sounds I would prefer to make that choice myself so I dont accidentally update past a firmware where its possible to root. Even after updating is it possible to rollback at all or no? My device is now on 6.0.1 so I hope I'm not too screwed.
2. I have some preinstalled apps I am positive I will never use in my life such as Uber (I drive my own car) and Facebook (I dont have Facebook and dont plan on it anytime soon). I saw options to disable it but I would prefer if it was outright deleted so is it possible? I would like to save on the space that it takes up no matter how minuscule that may be especially on apps that are just dead weight.
My phone is Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge and my service provider is AT&T.
I'm exactly in the same boat as you, having just moved to Samsung/Android after using iphones since it's first release. It feels so great to have the freedom that comes with the S7 Edge.
I too found the edge screen to be annoying, but as soon as I bought my case ( OtterBox Commuter) that issue you describe quickly dissapeared, I beleive any case will deliver the same result, as you'd been griping the actual case and not the edge screen .
There is a way to disable your play store updates through the play store settings.
As far as firmware updates you can control these in the Settings - About options. However I don't beleive that Android updates are there to plug any capabilities of rooting Android, from my understanding as long as the baseband is unlocked, and that will depend on which version of the Edge you have then it will remain rootable regardless of any software updates pushed. However someone with more android experience is probably best to confirm this.
I'm suprised that your device came pre-installed with Uber and Facebook, I had to install them through play store and likewise am able to uninstall them. There is an app called package disabler in the app store but as the name suggests it only disables them which you say you have the option to anyway. I beleive a root will be able to fix that.
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first time android user
To be very honest i did hands on many android smartphone but my love to windows phone always increase respectively
. Do you really think a hard core windows lover its gonna be easy to sift at android .
On the T-Mobile version you can hit postpone when it pops up and then schedule it.
Thank you ih8un for your response. I guess I'll wait until rooting becomes available in order to delete these preinstalled apps.
Can anyone confirm if firmware updates can patch out rooting? If yes how do I disable or prevent firmware updating? I cant seem to find that option anywhere in the settings.
*You have got snapdragon version which have locked bootloader so unless samsung and at&t push out official update that unlock it, it is unlikely your device will get rooted at least not normal method.
1.It is possible but unlikely that new update can make root impossible(assume that your s7 get bootloader unlocked and root by flashing supersu) but if your device get root in special way by using exploits(like jailbreaking ios) update will patch up exploit and disable rooting.
2.Uninstall preinstall app will recover no space for user since system partition has fixed size and separate from data partition.
(Preinstall apps is in system partition. User apps and data is in data partition)
Also once your device is rooted it will list your software as custom and disable ota update.
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@RemixDeluxe couple things.
Package DisablerPro even though they don't uninstall the apps such as Uber it does disable and they won't show up in your folder nor update.
To stop automatic app update go to Playstore settings and check the do not auto update box.
As far as firmware update I took the update so no biggie
Since the bootloader on the G935A ATT is locked down tight I seriously doubt there'll be a root exploit but if someone does find one if you root you won't have to worry about auto updates because the device won't be able to take the OTA.
I use a thin Speck case and Case Mate makes a good case as well and they will eliminate the incidental screen touches.
I've had the Galaxy S series of devices since the S2 and I've got to say in my humble opinion of course you won't find a finer device.
Yes I've owned several other android devices as well.
I've bought the international S7 Edge and that device is fully rootable so if you can come up with the money it's an idea to consider.
Even the Tmobile S7 Edge bootloader is locked down now so that's out of the question.
I hope I've answered some of your questions.
Feel free to hit me up if you have more.
"And on that bombshell!"
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NonXtreme said:
*You have got snapdragon version which have locked bootloader so unless samsung and at&t push out official update that unlock it, it is unlikely your device will get rooted at least not normal method.
1.It is possible but unlikely that new update can make root impossible(assume that your s7 get bootloader unlocked and root by flashing supersu) but if your device get root in special way by using exploits(like jailbreaking ios) update will patch up exploit and disable rooting.
2.Uninstall preinstall app will recover no space for user since system partition has fixed size and separate from data partition.
(Preinstall apps is in system partition. User apps and data is in data partition)
Also once your device is rooted it will list your software as custom and disable ota update.
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I'm confused by your post, I thought rooting the phone was the equivalent to jailbreaking on IOS as in it makes the device open source but by no means is it official by the developers of the OS.
So are you saying I can only disable updates once my phone is rooted? I mean how would I stop it in the first place so I can get root to begin with? sounds like a catch 22.
s7freak said:
@RemixDeluxe couple things.
Package DisablerPro even though they don't uninstall the apps such as Uber it does disable and they won't show up in your folder nor update.
To stop automatic app update go to Playstore settings and check the do not auto update box.
As far as firmware update I took the update so no biggie
Since the bootloader on the G935A ATT is locked down tight I seriously doubt there'll be a root exploit but if someone does find one if you root you won't have to worry about auto updates because the device won't be able to take the OTA.
I use a thin Speck case and Case Mate makes a good case as well and they will eliminate the incidental screen touches.
I've had the Galaxy S series of devices since the S2 and I've got to say in my humble opinion of course you won't find a finer device.
Yes I've owned several other android devices as well.
I've bought the international S7 Edge and that device is fully rootable so if you can come up with the money it's an idea to consider.
Even the Tmobile S7 Edge bootloader is locked down now so that's out of the question.
I hope I've answered some of your questions.
Feel free to hit me up if you have more.
"And on that bombshell!"
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I dont care about applications updating since that doesnt affect the OS in terms of exploits but for firmware updates I want to be able to not update because I imagine Samsung or AT&T (whoever it concerns) would not want their customers to root their devices and have open souce access they arent suppose to have. Maybe I'm too used to Apple stomping out jailbreak and I should ease up with Android updates, this is all new to me so forgive my lack of understanding.
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I dont care about applications updating since that doesnt affect the OS in terms of exploits but for firmware updates I want to be able to not update because I imagine Samsung or AT&T (whoever it concerns) would not want their customers to root their devices and have open souce access they arent suppose to have. Maybe I'm too used to Apple stomping out jailbreak and I should ease up with Android updates, this is all new to me so forgive my lack of understanding.
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Honestly I doubt very seriously if there will be root for the ATT, Verizon, TMO s7 edge. Just like the s6 edge or Note5. There was root for a very short period for the s6 edge but the exploit was patched very quickly. It seems devs aren't even trying to find root for ATT devices since the bootloaders are so tightly locked.
As far as updates to the OS since root isn't available there's no worry about exploits being patched.
It sucks tremendously but the major carriers are more concerned with security than anything else.
Tomorrow my ATT s7 edge is going back to the corporate store and from now on I'll be buying the international versions outright.
I've been lucky since I've had a couple other devices that I was able to sell on Swappa to offset the cost.
"And on that bombshell!"
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I really wanted to root my device, its half the fun of owning a new device and this really bums me out I may possible never get to experience that.
So am I completely screwed out of rooting or do you think there will be some workarounds in the foreseeable future?
Thanks for keeping me informed.
RemixDeluxe said:
I really wanted to root my device, its half the fun of owning a new device and this really bums me out I may possible never get to experience that.
So am I completely screwed out of rooting or do you think there will be some workarounds in the foreseeable future?
Thanks for keeping me informed.
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Never underestimate the xda community even if it looks grim now I'm keeping a positive outlook that us variants will eventually have root. But maybe that's just wishful thinking. But there are plenty of modifications and customization options available to us without the need of root.
I have a couple of requests in regards to some applications if anyone would be generous enough to suggest anything.
1. Are there any applications to get free inapp purchases without root?
2. Anyway to stop ads in apps or while viewing youtube videos? I've tried a few adblockers but they dont seem to do much if anything at all.
3. I used this app on my iPhone called Mewseek which allowed you to download music on the fly and listen to it instantly. Is there any equivalent of that on Android?
Hi all.
This is my first post so be gentle.
I have recently purchased an S8. I am diabetic and i use Abbott Freestyle Libre to monitor my blood sugar. Libre uses NFC technology and a specific reader. There are a lot of apps (including an official one : LibreLink (which is not yet available in my country)) to get the readings.
When i first opened the package (S8) the first thing i did was to install Glimp (app from play store) which does the same thing as the reader. Gets the readings via NFC. It worked fine at the time. Then a notification for update came along and i did it. Ever since NFC works fine with other devices apart from the sensor i have. Glimp does no longer work.
I did some research on the internet and found out that a lot of people have the exact same problem as i had.
I contacted Samsung support and told me it is Abboots fault. I called Abbott and told me its samsungs fault. I called Glimp HQ and told me "No S8!" (lol). LibreLink was even became unavailable through playstore because of that reason.
How i solved it:
I downloaded the original samsung ROM that the mobile came with and installed it via Odin. It was the earliest one. AQCA. Since it was an official samsung ROM, the KNOX was not triggered and i am still on 0 (good news). Glimp and NFC are working as they should without a problem with this firmware.
The thing is that i would like to be able to get the updates without fear of having to roll back on the first rom and do the tiring procedure of restoring and backing up over and over again.
Does anyone know what they did from the AQCA to AQDD regarding the NFC?
Has anyone else solved the issue with any other way than mine?
Thank you in advance.
Don't do the updates it's still doesn't work and we are the 5th of july
I have the same issue, just that I am only thinking about buying a phone.
Regarding LibreLink, there seem to be several discussions around the Galaxy S7/S8 phones and trouble around the current firmware (S8) and the current LibreLink version (S7). The solution seems to be: use an APK LibreLink (S7) or an older firmware (S8) until someone solved the problems. Glimp doesn't seem to work at all with the S7 (non-edge), but LibreLink seems to.
All very strange!
Can you help me regarding the S8, All these firmware names are rather cryptic for an outsider. How can i find out if the firmware is still available for a specific model.
(I am in Switzerland, will buy a non-branded phone).
thanks!!
Regarding S8 firmware
christian.ry said:
I have the same issue, just that I am only thinking about buying a phone.
Regarding LibreLink, there seem to be several discussions around the Galaxy S7/S8 phones and trouble around the current firmware (S8) and the current LibreLink version (S7). The solution seems to be: use an APK LibreLink (S7) or an older firmware (S8) until someone solved the problems. Glimp doesn't seem to work at all with the S7 (non-edge), but LibreLink seems to.
All very strange!
Can you help me regarding the S8, All these firmware names are rather cryptic for an outsider. How can i find out if the firmware is still available for a specific model.
(I am in Switzerland, will buy a non-branded phone).
thanks!!
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I know it a strange problem.
Samsung messed it up real good this time.
Right now I am using only Glimp.
I have researched and did a lot of experiments to find out which firmware is ok to work with both applications.
Unfortunately, the earliest firmware that is for EU phones (Unlocked) is not early enough. There are other firmwares that came earlier to companies like Vodafone etc etc. These are the firmwares you need to download. Right now I am using the one that ends in AQCA, which is the earliest one. and it works fine.
I guess that you will have no problem flashing a firmware that is from another company (mine for example that it is the vodafone GR AQCA) and still work fine. The firmware you need is given by SwissCom and it is the same that I am using. No matter what you download make sure that the PDA ends in AQCA or AQC9.
Make sure that you flash ALL files from the firmware that you will download. Not just the AP, but all of them, else you will have different baseband versions and your phone would be messed up in different ways. And definitely, when the notification for update pops up, always choose LATER, or you will have to roll back again after the update is done.
Also, since it is an original firmware i guess, as it happened in my case too, the KNOX will not be triggered.
If you have any questions about how to do it, pm me, and i will be more than happy to help. It was really bad for me having an S8 and not be able to work with something so essential as blood monitoring which a 100$ lenovo would have no problem!!! I was ready to sell it.
That is actually helping a lot. For me it probably just means I won't buy the phone at all and since there is no reliable info on a high-end Android phone available, I will continue using the Freestyle-Reader.
But now that we're at it, do you know what the "AUT" in the other firmwares available for Switzerland means?
I understand the I'll need at least AQCA or AQC9, which is only available for the Swisscom formwares.
Since these are official firmwares, can the official Samsung tool (SmartSwitch) be used to flash them?
And thanks anyway, this was very helpful!
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That is actually helping a lot. For me it probably just means I won't buy the phone at all and since there is no reliable info on a high-end Android phone available, I will continue using the Freestyle-Reader.
But now that we're at it, do you know what the "AUT" in the other firmwares available for Switzerland means?
I understand the I'll need at least AQCA or AQC9, which is only available for the Swisscom formwares.
Since these are official firmwares, can the official Samsung tool (SmartSwitch) be used to flash them?
And thanks anyway, this was very helpful!
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Happy to help.
The AUT im not sure what it is but my guess is that has to do something with the region.
If you decide to finally buy the S8 then the only way to flash any ROM is the Odin application that circles around the net. Very easy to find.
Understand that this happens with S7 and S8 only and that is completely Samsungs fault.
I tried to work around with the freestyle libre reader when my S8 was updated and i did not find it useful at all. I had to always have the reader on me, where my S8 was already with me. I dont carry around a bag to have things in it and that is why it was not suitable for me. If you, on the other hand, have no problem carrying around the reader then i guess that having a libre-working phone pays no role.
SmartSwitch is a completely different tool. It only transfers data (contacts, logs, pictures, video, logs etc etc.) an not system, so this will not be in any case helpful.
Tip for reliable readings with Glimp:
Insert the blood levels from the reader into Glimp manually when u measure the blood sugar.
ex. You measure the blood sugar level with glimp and it states 100. The same minute measure the blood sugar lever with the freestyle libre reader and it states 88. Insert the 88 manually in to glimp the same moment you read it. That way the Glimp readjusts the algorithm that uses to better suit the readeer readings. After a day of re-adjustment the readings from Glimp are not so different from the reader. -5+ around.
If you need anything else, I ll be around and check this post regularly.
Other people need the information too, i guess.
Hey again,
I think we're having very much similar issues – I started with the reader when I got my first sensors and worked with it for about a year, which was great compared to the normal blood glucose measurements.
And now I am ready to change to Android (seems iOS will never happen) and realize that the Galaxy S4 that I am currently using (got it from a friend for free) is much more fidgety to use than the reader was.
By that I mean it can takes quite a while to get it realize the sensor and do the measurement, the reader did it in an instant. Is that similar with your S8? On the other hand I if course completely agree - having two devices to carry sucks, I just ask myself why is everyone making it so difficult for us?
There is another thread on reddit where someone also uses your method, I can share the link if necessary
Now - allow me two remaining questions:
- work with a firmware that cannot be updated – have you had any problems with other apps?
- how do I make sure the phone I buy in Switzerland will be able to use the UK firmware (or another)? You sound quite confident it will work though.
And finally – are you aware of any other state-of-the-art phone that actually does all this without issues? The only one I heard of is the S7 edge, but with other phones we are completely left alone with LibreLink. Doh. I even thought of creating a facebook page that collects information about that.
Now thanks again for your help, feels good to finally not be alone with the issue
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Hey again,
I think we're having very much similar issues – I started with the reader when I got my first sensors and worked with it for about a year, which was great compared to the normal blood glucose measurements.
And now I am ready to change to Android (seems iOS will never happen) and realize that the Galaxy S4 that I am currently using (got it from a friend for free) is much more fidgety to use than the reader was.
By that I mean it can takes quite a while to get it realize the sensor and do the measurement, the reader did it in an instant. Is that similar with your S8? On the other hand I if course completely agree - having two devices to carry sucks, I just ask myself why is everyone making it so difficult for us?
There is another thread on reddit where someone also uses your method, I can share the link if necessary
Now - allow me two remaining questions:
- work with a firmware that cannot be updated – have you had any problems with other apps?
- how do I make sure the phone I buy in Switzerland will be able to use the UK firmware (or another)? You sound quite confident it will work though.
And finally – are you aware of any other state-of-the-art phone that actually does all this without issues? The only one I heard of is the S7 edge, but with other phones we are completely left alone with LibreLink. Doh. I even thought of creating a facebook page that collects information about that.
Now thanks again for your help, feels good to finally not be alone with the issue
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Well, The readings with the sensor are so much faster than with the phone because the whole reader is an NFC antenna, where in the case of the phone you have to completely match the antenna surface with the sensors surface. Look up in the internet to find in which part of the phone (S4) is the NFC antenna located for better (faster) readings. As you look the back of the S4 is in the right side of the camera flash.
Yes, i have seen the reddit thread. Its pretty much the same as what i have done. Same problem - same solution.
There also been cases with S7 (not S7 edge) with the same problem. I dont know why Edge is working but the normal one does not.
As for other phones, the one that i was having before the S8 was the oneplus 3T (one of the greatest phones around - extremely powerful). Now oneplus launches the oneplus 5 (20 of June), which i believe will beat the S8 in benchmarks and performance. Oneplus 3T was better than S7. The good thing about oneplus is that you do not loose the warranty if you root it or flash a custom OS. Basically, there is no way to loose the warranty with oneplus whatsoever. And since its one of the most popular phones around the Android community, if the stock rom does not work (extremely unlikely) you can flash another one and still be in top ranks.
I can only suggest though, and be absolutely sure for, phones that i have tested. We have seen what happened with the S8. The one minute was working and after the update not so much... I could start a list and post the brand and the firmware of the phone of phones that work with Glimp (LibreLink is still unavailable in my country). But if it works with the one will work with the other.
As of the confidence that the firmware swapping will work:
I could try it on my phone and tell you.
I mean - my S8 was bought in Greece and it was a branded Vodafone phone. I could flash the SwissCom firmware that will supposedly work with the phone that you will buy and tell you.
Sadly for you (happily for me) I do not have a facebook page or any other social networking page to be part of it.
Hey again
Thanks for the a kind offer (flashing), but it is not necessary. I think I won’t go for the S8 until the issues are resolved or it at least is more clear.
I just tried an S7 with an older LibreLink Version (someone reported it works, I guess you’ve seen that too). It did exactly once, before destroying the sensor (I had only 1-2 days left, so thought I just give it a shot). But I should have known better ?
The OneTouch sounds indeed like a good option, let’s see how it finally looks!
Thanks for helping me!
christian.ry said:
Hey again
Thanks for the a kind offer (flashing), but it is not necessary. I think I won’t go for the S8 until the issues are resolved or it at least is more clear.
I just tried an S7 with an older LibreLink Version (someone reported it works, I guess you’ve seen that too). It did exactly once, before destroying the sensor (I had only 1-2 days left, so thought I just give it a shot). But I should have known better
The OneTouch sounds indeed like a good option, let’s see how it finally looks!
Thanks for helping me!
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No problem.
There is a very informative list of devices in the website of Glimp somewhere that states which phone tend to destroy the sensors. I managed to find it once and never again.
The S8 has been tiring for me the past few days with all the problems it has and the problems that have yet to come. I didnt know that Samsung was that unreliable.
Thankfully the S8 is the TOP samsung phone right now in the market and i will have no problem selling it in a good price. I will return to the OnePlus which has the best customer service and no complex whatsoever regarding custom ROMs and device modifications.
I just hope samsung will make it up for all the trouble people have been through at some point.
Good luck all.
PS. In any point in the future, if someone has a problem with S8 devices regarding Glimp and how to make it work properly, feel free to pm me.
Seems like neither Samsung nor Glimp have any intentions to solve the matter.
I, therefore, sold my S8 and bought an LG G6.
My impression are way way better than the S8s.
The G6 NFC antenna is huge and it acts very similar to the reader, meaning that i do not have to get too close to get the reading. This is the only mobile phone that i have seen doing that.
I know that the G6 is worse than the S8 in many ways but it works so much better with the Freestyle.
Hello, I have the same problem and unfortunatelly I have to use old firmware.
I noticed that Samsung pushed new update (16.07.2017) - I found that on sammobile.
Have anyone tried this update (maybe they fixed nfc issue)?
The issue has been solved at least in my s8 librelink and glimp works with the last update
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The issue has been solved at least in my s8 librelink and glimp works with the last update
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WOW!!!! It's great! This update prompt in notifications is so annoying...... Can you check in the settings exact version number? I mean G950FXXU1............... ?
Good news! Great news.
Someone in the Samsung company has been listening.
Good to know they take into consideration all that have been around.
I have already soled my S8 though so i cannot confirm it but i would take your word for it since you have been having the same problem with everyone else and it has been solved.
Cheers.
Now I can confirm that all issues are gone I installed new software G950FXXU1AQG5 (I'm from Poland, XEO version) and everything is ok.
LibreLink app usage
Hi,
I confirm that since the last software update, Samsung Galaxy S8 eventually is able to read the Freestyle Libre Sensors.
Although, can you share your experience on how do you use the official LibreLink application for countries which the android/iOS app has not yet been released?
I 've tried to download the android .apk with the check for the country disabled from apkpure.com, or even downloaded the official app via VPN (i.e. from Italy) but I got an error message for the compatibility of the country at the very beginning of the app.
Thus, I used the Lucky Patcher app to reproduce the official Italian valid version of the .apk by only removing the compatibility checks. Finally, I bypass the country check and I can proceed to read the sensor. But still I get another error: "Incompatible Sensor. This sensor cannot be used with this version of LibreLink."
Any ideas? Has anybody managed to do it successfully?
Thank you.
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No problem.
There is a very informative list of devices in the website of Glimp somewhere that states which phone tend to destroy the sensors. I managed to find it once and never again.
The S8 has been tiring for me the past few days with all the problems it has and the problems that have yet to come. I didnt know that Samsung was that unreliable.
Thankfully the S8 is the TOP samsung phone right now in the market and i will have no problem selling it in a good price. I will return to the OnePlus which has the best customer service and no complex whatsoever regarding custom ROMs and device modifications.
I just hope samsung will make it up for all the trouble people have been through at some point.
Good luck all.
PS. In any point in the future, if someone has a problem with S8 devices regarding Glimp and how to make it work properly, feel free to pm me.
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The website you're looking for is this one most likely: deebee.it/?p=4959
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=== Supported NFC Smartphones
LG_G3
LG_WATCH_URBANE_2
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_A3
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_ACE3
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_S3
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_S3_NEO
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_S4
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_S4_MINI
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_S7_EDGE
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_S8
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_S8_PLUS
=== Not Supported Smartphones
BLACKBERRY_Z10
=== Not recommended NFC Smartphones
HUAWEI_HONOR_V8
HUAWEI_NEXUS_6P
HUAWEI_P8_LITE
GOOGLE_PIXEL
LG_K8
LG_NEXUS_5
LG_NEXUX_5X
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_CORE_PRIME
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_GRAND_PRIME
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_A3_2016
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_J3
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_NOTE5
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_S7
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_YOUNG2
XIAOMI_MI5
XIAOMI_MIX
I'm new to XDA, just trying to post a fact I've heard from my father, who was in charge of development of S2, Note tablet series and Note 4, 5, 7, FE and 8, etc.
As he gave me Fan Edtion to me, telling me this is so meaningful to his team. When I asked aboth LED cover, he said "Although this Fan Edition's internel parts are mostly newly build, instead of using 7 parts, It still can use Note 7 LED flipcover and battery pack - but intentionally blocked the usage of note 7 accessaries softwarely. Therefore it's function is intact, just disabled."
He later also gave me note7 LED cover and battery cover as somebody would already managed to restored it. But I'm suprised most of XDA users didn't even try so, thinking it's hardware problem.
So we can say note 7 battery pack is in fact working, but soon blocked by system when it finishes acknoledging where the wave is comming from - which means it can be unlocked, alongside with all note 7 accesaries.
Therefore I'm asking you guys, to find the blockcade and restore it's functions. If it's not hardware issue - why not? If you can edit kernel or porting(like arter97 or topjohnwu), even completely re-building custom android from AOPS, I'm sure someday, someone will make it working. Just like magisk eventually showed up and saved us from root detections.
P.S. I know you'll never find this post, but, thanks for all that hard works, dad. Congraturation for graduating from 25-year-long development post. You really did something to your Samsung electronics. I wish you could stop overworking just for few days and have time with us..
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hi I'm very new to this android rooting world. from what I've gathered it's highly useful. I'm looking to root my Samsung s8 sm-g950u can it be done without bricking it. I have a PC Windows 10 to download the needed things. my wife has the one plus 3t. if i stay with android I'm considering my options with phones. I understand the one plus brand and google pixel among some others are very useful.. some being easier to root also more stable than others. all of what I know is through reading. if I do buy another android what the best for a beginner. I'm not looking to over clock. just stream line the phone. gather some useful apps. basically learn have fun and explore.
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hi I'm very new to this android rooting world. from what I've gathered it's highly useful. I'm looking to root my Samsung s8 sm-g950u can it be done without bricking it. I have a PC Windows 10 to download the needed things. my wife has the one plus 3t. if i stay with android I'm considering my options with phones. I understand the one plus brand and google pixel among some others are very useful.. some being easier to root also more stable than others. all of what I know is through reading. if I do buy another android what the best for a beginner. I'm not looking to over clock. just stream line the phone. gather some useful apps. basically learn have fun and explore.
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Sure, you can do it without bricking the phone
But, since S8 is a samsung phone, it is better for you to know the drawback of rooting your phone, mainly because the Knox getting tripped. Some of it (like, secure folder or instant login from browser) will be unable to be used anymore.
warphoenix30 said:
hi I'm very new to this android rooting world. from what I've gathered it's highly useful. I'm looking to root my Samsung s8 sm-g950u can it be done without bricking it. I have a PC Windows 10 to download the needed things. my wife has the one plus 3t. if i stay with android I'm considering my options with phones. I understand the one plus brand and google pixel among some others are very useful.. some being easier to root also more stable than others. all of what I know is through reading. if I do buy another android what the best for a beginner. I'm not looking to over clock. just stream line the phone. gather some useful apps. basically learn have fun and explore.
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If its a US 950 U knox cannot be tripped battery only charges to 80% samsung pay does not work
Also in setting about phone and software information and or base band We need to know what firmware you are running now As root is only possible up to a revision 2 bootloader anything higher cannot be rooted or downgraded to root
Well honestly I won't own another one of these. They can't have tempered glass. I dont really use the features that help these sell. Just looking to remove the bloatware and take more control over the phone. The hardware is nice. I'd rather be using a high end flagship vanilla android.
Baseband version is G950USQS5CRF5.
Sounds like I should be using a android that more root friendly. Which would be better? One plus. LG or google pixel?
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Sure, you can do it without bricking the phone
But, since S8 is a samsung phone, it is better for you to know the drawback of rooting your phone, mainly because the Knox getting tripped. Some of it (like, secure folder or instant login from browser) will be unable to be used anymore.[/QUOTE
I dont use secure folder. Mayne I don't know enough about it to know if I should be if i need to. I really trying use my pc more for things then my phone. So some of these these if i end up rooting or being able to root it. I probably won't miss. Or maybe I'm not anwarw of why I have to be missing them.
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