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Available Memory, how much do you typically have?

Good day!
I've tried a few different apps now, Memory Usage, Advanced Task Killer, and I seem to hover between 110m to 25m. I kill some apps and it jumps back up to 110 and then slowly works its way back down to the mid 20's. Is this normal?
Tips? What is your available memory like?

To sum it up: Free memory is useless memory. You should have as little memory free as possible.
Explanation. Android handles memory management really well. When an app is opened and needs more memory it will shut down unused processes and free up memory on an as needed basis. For apps this can be everything from pausing individual functions all the way to saving an apps state to disk and restoring it the next time it's opened.
Task killers are mostly solutions looking for a problem, I've been running without one for months and my amount of free memory fluctuates as expected when surfing the web and things like that but so far there haven't been any times where I've had to free up memory. So don't stare yourself blind on memory meters and try freeing up memory. Android handles that well enough on its own.

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That's good info! I kinda knew I was making something out of nothing with the numbers. The phone has been fine in terms of performance.

my 2 cents....i typically have between 30-60mb free. phone does not lag or anything. i used task-killer for a few days when i got phone, then actually thought about what it was doing and the way the system (linux based) is designed. i ditched it and have not looked back!
ps. my phone is rooted R2BA024 firmware, fwiw.

I usually have like 80 mb free ram just for the case and i use task manager to kill apps that are using data connection when i dont need them

I got totally obsessed with task killing but having read a lot of the lads reports on here I am on my third day of not touching it and I have to say my phone is doing fine all by itself!

goth50 said:
I usually have like 80 mb free ram just for the case and i use task manager to kill apps that are using data connection when i dont need them
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I think you'd be better off setting up data synchronisation properly. I'm assuming you're talking about background syncing of course. So that you don't accidentally kill an app in the middle of a sync which might cause corruptions. I've had that happen when synching my gmail to a linux machine and the network went down, the cleanup required was insane and I lost a whole months worth of mails from the google servers.

ddewbofh said:
To sum it up: Free memory is useless memory. You should have as little memory free as possible.
Explanation. Android handles memory management really well. When an app is opened and needs more memory it will shut down unused processes and free up memory on an as needed basis. For apps this can be everything from pausing individual functions all the way to saving an apps state to disk and restoring it the next time it's opened.
Task killers are mostly solutions looking for a problem, I've been running without one for months and my amount of free memory fluctuates as expected when surfing the web and things like that but so far there haven't been any times where I've had to free up memory. So don't stare yourself blind on memory meters and try freeing up memory. Android handles that well enough on its own.
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Heh...handles memory very well, but how about the battery life!? The more apps you have- the less power you've left.

mymagicmyhero said:
Heh...handles memory very well, but how about the battery life!? The more apps you have- the less power you've left.
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That's debatable, most background apps drain miniscule amounts of power. The exception naturally being things that makes use of the hardware while backgrounded by playing music, syncing, calculating pi or things like that. Most apps though, just hang out in memory not really doing anything. A lot of the time, if not most, it's more efficient staying there as opposed to shutting it down and starting it up again later.

+1 yes, just hanging out idle in memory wont cost you any battery, the memory will be on an base current either way, what does cost you battery is the read and write actions to memory so if you frantically clean out that memory your phone will have to write alot more to it working with your different apps resulting in a slower (less prepared) device sucking more battery then neccessary. Leave the memory handling to your device ;-)
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[Q] What is the best RAM cleaner?

Hy.
What is best RAM cleaner for Android 4.3? My RAM is always about 700-800 MB (I play games, watch videos, use facebook so everything what is eat the RAM) on my S4. But after I reboot my phone it is about 1200 MB. So how can I fully clear the RAM without a reboot?

your system is cleaning RAM so you don't have to think about it..................best cleaner is no cleaner at all :good:

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Couldn't agree more.
Those apps are designed to Hoover money from suckers. Android manages RAM just fine itself; it doesn't like 'free' RAM. Thing is people are used to Windows managing RAM badly/not releasing RAM when programs are exited/etc, so when they see low free RAM in Android they think they need to free some up/use an app to do this.
If you constantly free RAM up in Android, rather than having apps ready to go based on your usage patterns which Android does normally, it has to start apps completely from scratch, and you will end up using more battery long run as a result.

Lewis0214 said:
Hy.
What is best RAM cleaner for Android 4.3? My RAM is always about 700-800 MB (I play games, watch videos, use facebook so everything what is eat the RAM) on my S4. But after I reboot my phone it is about 1200 MB. So how can I fully clear the RAM without a reboot?
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As mentioned above the system is designed to manage RAM itself by freeing up as and when required. But if you want to quickly refresh you could use the built-in task manager (hold home button) to close all open apps. Theres also Greenify (search play store) which hibernates apps and prevents them from running constantly in the background using up resources, its not as harsh as a "RAM cleaner" as it works more with the way processes and services are handled by android.

And just a command?

RAM terrible usage

hi all
why my device using to much memory check the pic plz ..
am on stock Rom 4.4.2 but rooted
http://www.gulfup.com/?wLwT4r

3mmar3d said:
hi all
why my device using to much memory check the pic plz ..
am on stock Rom 4.4.2 but rooted
http://www.gulfup.com/?wLwT4r
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Use a program like Android System Info to find what programs are running. If you are rooted just freeze the apps that are safe to freeze and you see running in the background.

xclub_101 said:
Use a program like Android System Info to find what programs are running. If you are rooted just freeze the apps that are safe to freeze and you see running in the background.
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am already using Greenfiy and Battery Doctor .. !

Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't Android utilize ram differently then most systems. Isn't free ram wasted ram in this case.
What I have been told is that the Android OS loads apps into memory as a way to speed up processing and increase battery life and automatically empties this ram when more ram is needed. This is done to optimize performance and battery life.
So even if you might not use a certain app, its still left in memory incase u do use it and to avoid random increases in processing power decreasing overall battery life.
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You're RAM usage is perfectly fine

what happen with the ram usage ? Is so normally .
Remember , android os system is a multitasking os.
So when you close the program it not totally close , still running in background .

Replace Touchwiz with Apex or Nova launcher, and kill as much bloatware as possible.
Touchwiz alone is 600MB.
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balpreetsaini said:
Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't Android utilize ram differently then most systems. Isn't free ram wasted ram in this case.
What I have been told is that the Android OS loads apps into memory as a way to speed up processing and increase battery life and automatically empties this ram when more ram is needed. This is done to optimize performance and battery life.
So even if you might not use a certain app, its still left in memory incase u do use it and to avoid random increases in processing power decreasing overall battery life.
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Yes, Android manages memory different way and it's stupid way to put it mildly. Unless I manually go and kill useless applications, they take up memory and many of those apps I never used and never ever will. And no matter what anybody tells you it takes time to clear memory for new programs to load and defragment it. Primary reason I had to root my phone to fix this idiocy and freeze or delete all the bloat since I was tired to force stop dozens of apps after each reboot. I won't even go into all other issues like when those programs run in the background wasting battery, use internet, or wake the phone from deep sleep.
And how on Earth loading and running never used apps in background optimizes performance and battery life?
Part of the reason they do that is "just in time" compilation, another stupid idea, which they just tried to fix in KK.
Just like others suggested OP could root and freeze/delete all the garbage he doesn't use and surprise, surprise the phone will run faster and battery will last longer.

You don't need to root to remove most of the bloatware. I didn't, and mine averages around 1.2GB in use with Firefox, Facebook, Whatsapp, LWP, Zooper, Twitter and Gmail open. It boots to 700MB in use.

[Q] I wanna free my Ram a bit

how can I ?
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No point
Android will free ram if needed and ram cleaners and anti-viruses often mess this up

A7madesla said:
how can I ?
i.imgur.com/e3GUUcy.png
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]May i ask why you need the RAM? Its android operating system after all if program requires more RAM the system will free enough. You have 1gb free which is more than enough. If you want to free more install some ram killer/cleaner like Clean Master,or uninstall some apps that you dont use. cheers :highfive:

thanks for answers
but it's about the battery, I wanna keep the phone on as much time as I can without needing to charge it
and I thought that all these running apps are consuming the battery and reducing its lifetime

Actually, having apps in the RAM saves battery. It's more battery-consuming to have to read the apps into RAM every time you want to use them. Better have them preloaded in the RAM and always ready-to-use.
They aren't 'running' in the background, but more like 'hibernating'.
If you really want to make sure no apps are consuming data and such in the background, then use Stamina Mode. Also checking which apps are allowed to automatically sync data is one way to go.

Improve ram usage

In the recent apps viewer, I can see at the bottom that there is always about 1,95GB of 3GB of ram free.. I was asking, is it possible to make the apps use more ram in the background for faster loading and will this use more battery?

maartenw8 said:
In the recent apps viewer, I can see at the bottom that there is always about 1,95GB of 3GB of ram free.. I was asking, is it possible to make the apps use more ram in the background for faster loading and will this use more battery?
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Not that I know if but if you did want to do that it would take a lot of time and heavy modifications how the phone uses ram etc but for now you can try going into Dev mode (tap build number 7 times) go to the bottom and click "background process limit" and set it to 4 but if you run out of ram or close to running out the phone stops the app.