To OTA or not to OTA - Verizon Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I now have a successfully rooted and unlocked VZW GS5 thanks to all you DEV's. Now in order to get Marshmallow, Should I wait for it to be developed here, or will it be possible to get it OTA when it rolls out to my variant and if so , will it re-lock my bootloader?

If you take the OTA you'll be unable to root period. So you best enjoy what you have and, if possible, wait until something is developed. And yes, the OTA will lock your device.

Has the Marshmallow update come out yet?

CVertigo1 said:
Has the Marshmallow update come out yet?
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AT&T D850 Lollipop has been pushed!

Ermagerd. OTA is live. Just tested myself by unfreezing software update and checking ota. Large file. 683 mb. C'mon rooty goodness
Sorry, its been years since I last rooted a phone. If I'm rooted I cannot do the OTA right? I would have to have a custom recovery and flash it like that right?
Turb0wned said:
Sorry, its been years since I last rooted a phone. If I'm rooted I cannot do the OTA right? I would have to have a custom recovery and flash it like that right?
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That's correct. You can follow the return to stock method to go back to stock unrooted and ota but doing so may result in you not being able to root as there is no root method for 5.0 yet. Either wait for stock rooted to be posted by one of your awesome devs (should be soon. they are usually quick to offer stock rooted ota pkgs) or go straight stock. Since I read news today that xposed is going live for lollipop soon I am going to wait for stock rooted ota.
BreakingVZW said:
That's correct. You can follow the return to stock method to go back to stock unrooted and ota but doing so may result in you not being able to root as there is no root method for 5.0 yet. Either wait for stock rooted to be posted by one of your awesome devs (should be soon. they are usually quick to offer stock rooted ota pkgs) or go straight stock. Since I read news today that xposed is going live for lollipop soon I am going to wait for stock rooted ota.
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Thank you! I'll wait, what's a few hours going to do! Hope battery life is improved!
Me too..!!
BreakingVZW said:
That's correct. You can follow the return to stock method to go back to stock unrooted and ota but doing so may result in you not being able to root as there is no root method for 5.0 yet. Either wait for stock rooted to be posted by one of your awesome devs (should be soon. they are usually quick to offer stock rooted ota pkgs) or go straight stock. Since I read news today that xposed is going live for lollipop soon I am going to wait for stock rooted ota.
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I am also thinking to wait for the rooted stock one to be posted... Currently on Illusion rom and its running great.. Some bugs, but can live with it until stock one arrives.. Good advise @BreakingVZW.. Thanks..
I unrooted and factory re-set the phone. Two different root checkers say I am not rooted. However, I get a message that I cannot update because a root is detected!!! Have tried 3 times now. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!!
LG-D850 D85010f on AT&T
Turb0wned said:
Thank you! I'll wait, what's a few hours going to do! Hope battery life is improved!
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Lol Idk if it will be only a couple of hours. That'd be nice but our devs have lives and do this stuff in their spare time. In theory they SHOULD be able to follow the same method devs from the international versions used to give users their rooted ota updates but sometimes it's just not that easy. This is the first US carrier release for the G3 so there may be security updates that weren't present in the international releases.
Spartanguy83 said:
I unrooted and factory re-set the phone. Two different root checkers say I am not rooted. However, I get a message that I cannot update because a root is detected!!! Have tried 3 times now. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!!
LG-D850 D85010f on AT&T
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You restored stock via flash tools ? That'd be a first I've heard of persistent root after a pure factory reset via that method. Did you get the green pass message when completed and all?
You may want to attempt a 10D flash instead of 10f. I never have issues restoring with 10d
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You restored stock via flash tools ? That'd be a first I've heard of persistent root after a pure factory reset via that method. Did you get the green pass message when completed and all?
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BreakingVZW said:
You may want to attempt a 10D flash instead of 10f. I never have issues restoring with 10d
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Yes I did. I found this (via a YouTube tutorial) that I am going to try. I post back!
An applicatin requires and update requested by google play services
When I click on this I just get the options of deactivate and open???
Camera API?
Does anyone know if the Lolipop update has the new Lolipop camera API?
Hope they will release it for d855 soon.
magikmichael said:
Hope they will release it for d855 soon.
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D855 got official lollipop a long time ago, it was the first G3 variant to receive it.
4ndroid99 said:
D855 got official lollipop a long time ago, it was the first G3 variant to receive it.
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Yes 5.0. But at&t got 5.0.1 if im not mistaking.
Yep it has: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...rly-700mb-d85020f-update-packs-android-5-0-1/
it may be harder for ATT g3 to get a L flashable rom due to lack of KDZ for ATT devices.. where the international users can just split the KDZ and repack into zip.
if someone wants to send me an AT&T g3 I can make one though
autoprime said:
it may be harder for ATT g3 to get a L flashable rom due to lack of KDZ for ATT devices.. where the international users can just split the KDZ and repack into zip.
if someone wants to send me an AT&T g3 I can make one though
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So the method of pre-rooting won't work with D850 lollipop BC it uses tot? KitKat for our variant uses tot as well and they still got us a rooted ota 10f update. Most posts I've read about G3 lollipop (lg stock not aosp) have said in order to have root on Lollipop you have to be on KitKat to use the same exploit used on KitKat. Is that not a viable solution anymore? I actually like the lg stock ROM and features. If we can't root the stock g3 rom on lollipop I'm going to have to look into getting a nexus 6 and will sell this. Xposed is apparently up and running well with lollipop and I gotsta has me ma xposed.
How is the 5.0.1 update running? Hope that the D855 version will be releasing soon. I'm on 5.0 V20H version and it's runs great
AndroidCity said:
How is the 5.0.1 update running? Hope that the D855 version will be releasing soon. I'm on 5.0 V20H version and it's runs great
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Don't know. I want to OTA and all but I need root. I use many programs that require root and just not having the ability to remove bloatware is reason enough for me to wait for a rooted OTA. Really hope one of the devs can figure out how to make a flashable OTA zip.
BreakingVZW said:
So the method of pre-rooting won't work with D850 lollipop BC it uses tot? KitKat for our variant uses tot as well and they still got us a rooted ota 10f update. Most posts I've read about G3 lollipop (lg stock not aosp) have said in order to have root on Lollipop you have to be on KitKat to use the same exploit used on KitKat. Is that not a viable solution anymore? I actually like the lg stock ROM and features. If we can't root the stock g3 rom on lollipop I'm going to have to look into getting a nexus 6 and will sell this. Xposed is apparently up and running well with lollipop and I gotsta has me ma xposed.
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10f had a rom because there was still root on 10f and you could backup system, boot and modem.
someone may have another solution worked out.. or even a tot to pull the files from. but it's not going to be as easy as it was previously due to no public root for L at the moment, the difficulty of getting a tot and lack of KDZ. Unfortunately I only have the T-Mobile version.. otherwise I'd be able to make one for you guys.

Root for Verizon Note 3

Now that we have lollipop for note 3 is there a root method
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Don't expect one until the JasmineROM dev releases MultiSystem. For that we need to wait for Verizon/Samsung to release the firmware. Could be about a week from now at least, 2 at most.
simcardslot said:
Don't expect one until the JasmineROM dev releases MultiSystem. For that we need to wait for Verizon/Samsung to release the firmware. Could be about a week from now at least, 2 at most.
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Thanks for the info...waiting patiently...
No root is not possible after nc4 it may never be possible to root we will most likely get a pre rooted rom able to be loaded on the nc4 bootloader
So when should we expect root for the note 3 running lollipop? Now that lollipop is out for the Verizon note 3 I mean.
Ask the Note 4 people. They have been waiting for root on lollipop longer and nothing yet. Expect nothing but there is always hope.
simcardslot said:
Don't expect one until the JasmineROM dev releases MultiSystem. For that we need to wait for Verizon/Samsung to release the firmware. Could be about a week from now at least, 2 at most.
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Multisystem isn't a root, its something like safestrap
raze5115 said:
So when should we expect root for the note 3 running lollipop? Now that lollipop is out for the Verizon note 3 I mean.
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Don't expect it, Lollipop is some serious biz and the security is tougher than ever which is good
mirrin said:
No root is not possible after nc4 it may never be possible to root we will most likely get a pre rooted rom able to be loaded on the nc4 bootloader
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On it be able to load on the NC4 bl is a story untold yet though
Reilly1812 said:
Ask the Note 4 people. They have been waiting for root on lollipop longer and nothing yet. Expect nothing but there is always hope.
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Never expect anything just hope for it
Being able to boot from NC4 bootloader would be a plus! Then I can go back and forth between that and my trustworthy 4.4.2 ROM. Lolipop might not be able to load from an old bootloader though. We shall see.
christianpeso said:
Being able to boot from NC4 bootloader would be a plus! Then I can go back and forth between that and my trustworthy 4.4.2 ROM. Lolipop might not be able to load from an old bootloader though. We shall see.
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It was done before probably can be done again, not sure if they updated the bootloader just yet
Yeah that would be nice if we could go back to 4.4.2 where there was root for Android
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It was done before probably can be done again, not sure if they updated the bootloader just yet
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That was a while ago when it was done. 4.4.4 can not boot from NC4 firmware so more than likely 5.0 wont be able to do it either.
From reading HSBADRs thread, its looking like NC4 would be replaced by whatever the newest version is. There is no going back once you take his Lolipop ROM. So no backing up your 4.4.2 ROM before moving on because it wont work anymore. Safestrap will be gone as well and you will only have stock recovery.
Once you make that move to Lolipop, there is no going back to any of the previous ROMS that were released. That is a big commitment.
So no root for a while yet?

Updates after rooting?

So I checked that once I am rooted, I will no longer get any official updates. Is that true? Any workarounds for that?
If I am on stock rooted rom, then how will I receive updates?
Anyone?
You won't. ..that's the point of rooting...an update is likely to break the root
Do we need to freeze anything to avoid an ota before we know it's safe?
Sent from my SM-G928C
So what's the option to update after rooting? What does the general majority do?
You wait for a dev to take whatever update was released to dissect and tweak and wait for their release.
sacthegreat said:
So I checked that once I am rooted, I will no longer get any official updates. Is that true? Any workarounds for that?
If I am on stock rooted rom, then how will I receive updates?
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Hello. As I know you wont get OTA update, you can flash original updated firmwares via odin(downloaded from sammobile.com). At the other hand you can flash custom roms which based new firmware, your choice. Thank you.
Ok so effectively, its better to put custom Rom as they will provide updates regularly.. If I install official firmware everyone a new update comes, then again I'll have to root it separately.. That is just irritating.. So better to go to custom Rom then! Thanks!

OTA marshmallow BL unlock

So I don't know how to be patient and flashed back to loli to get the Ota... Is there a way to unlock the bootloader on the 6 Ota yet?
Ifonerbest said:
So I don't know how to be patient and flashed back to loli to get the Ota... Is there a way to unlock the bootloader on the 6 Ota yet?
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No, but you can downgrade back to lollipop from it, I've heard.
So flash back, unlock, flash 6 with Odin?
Ifonerbest said:
So flash back, unlock, flash 6 with Odin?
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There isn't yet a safe upgrade available. Until then, I don't think you'll be able to have stock marshmallow and unlocked bootloader at the same time.

Rooted S7 marshmallow to OTA Nougat update

I have a rooted Samsung Galaxy S7 on marshmallow PI3 and just got notification of an OTA update, which I assume is for Nougat. I thought I wouldn't get an OTA while rooted, but haven't attempted to download. Please confirm that I will need to un-root my device to get the update.
rtfelt said:
I have a rooted Samsung Galaxy S7 on marshmallow PI3 and just got notification of an OTA update, which I assume is for Nougat. I thought I wouldn't get an OTA while rooted, but haven't attempted to download. Please confirm that I will need to un-root my device to get the update.
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Even if the update does download, the update will most likely fail during the checking process. Your best bet is to flash Nougat with Odin, then re-root using the Nougat root kernel.
CVertigo1 said:
Even if the update does download, the update will most likely fail during the checking process. Your best bet is to flash Nougat with Odin, then re-root using the Nougat root kernel.
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There's not a problem flashing Nougat on a rooted phone?
rtfelt said:
There's not a problem flashing Nougat on a rooted phone?
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No, because the act of flashing through odin pretty much negates all that. You just have to root again and follow the guides to speed the system back up or go without root and choose an option like the debloat rom with near stock experience.

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