MIUI 8 coming on May 10th! - Redmi Note 2 General

MIUI 8 coming on May 10th, I hope we get it!
Source: http://en.miui.com/thread-271637-1-1.html

I think I would trade MIUI 8 (and 9 and 10, too!) just for double-tap to wake functionality! So basic, but so uselful!

verbage said:
I think I would trade MIUI 8 (and 9 and 10, too!) just for double-tap to wake functionality! So basic, but so uselful!
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Better for kernel source

verbage said:
I think I would trade MIUI 8 (and 9 and 10, too!) just for double-tap to wake functionality! So basic, but so uselful!
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True!

verbage said:
I think I would trade MIUI 8 (and 9 and 10, too!) just for double-tap to wake functionality! So basic, but so uselful!
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D2TW needs SAMOLED screen to work efficiencely, either will drains battery cuz an interrupt will act as a wakelock all the time.
Been using screenwakeup by iiizio & battery was satisfying.
*] front LED holographic keyboard >> another dream in android

Adam Hui said:
D2TW needs SAMOLED screen to work efficiencely, either will drains battery cuz an interrupt will act as a wakelock all the time.
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Adam Hui, SAMOLED may be a bit more efficient, but DT2W has been around for a long time (far before SAMOLED became common if we can even call it common nowadays...), and it implemented on many, many plain old LCD model screens without any major problems. I would gladly sacrifice a few percent of my battery life for double-tap to wake!

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Adam Hui, SAMOLED may be a bit more efficient, but DT2W has been around for a long time (far before SAMOLED became common if we can even call it common nowadays...), and it implemented on many, many plain old LCD model screens without any major problems. I would gladly sacrifice a few percent of my battery life for double-tap to wake!
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Not fully true.
dt2w was a next development from swipe to wake (s2w) which was based on touch to wake (t2w) implemented by ezekiel at 2012.
I used it at 2012 on my sold GT-i9100, working flawlessly with SlimICS rom by @krarvind.
It was a nice memory as it's euphoria while a getaway momentum for B/W gingerbread, & much tricky crucial development arisen like undervoltage, etc.
Nowadays, t2w develops into knock codes by LG so force touch.
*] front LED holographic keyboard >> another dream in android

Well, I'm a relative newcomer to smartphones, and this may be what is clouding my perspective about DT2W being around "for a long time". I did not get my first smart phone until fall 2014, and it was a simple, entry-level LG L41C Ultimate 2. That had a regular LCD screen, not (S)AMOLED, but it still had DT2W functionality, and it was certainly not a premium, flagship model--it was a TracFone, which is a low-cost prepaid service in the US!
Then my wife got a Ulefone Be Pro in early 2015, and even with just a regular LCD screen, it has DT2W functionality, too. She now has an LG G4, and while that is/was a flagship model, it still only has a regular LCD screen, and not (S)AMOLED, but, of course, it has DT2W. So for all the phones I've had close/direct experience with since fall 2014 except the RN2, all have had only regular LCD screens, not (S)AMOLED ones, and they have all had DT2W functionality, too. So I am wondering why you think that (S)AMOLED is necessary for DT2W to work efficiently.
Anyway, regarding the RN2 which is the exception, well, I would consider it sort of a mid-range phone, certainly not entry-level like the LG L41C. Since the entry-level L41C had DT2W as early as fall 2014, shouldn't DT2W be possible for the RN2 now in spring 2016? Other MT6795-based phones already have DT2W functionality so why shouldn't the RN2? Maybe there is a true hardware difference like digitizer capability that has prevented Xioami from implementing it with the RN2?
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So I was looking up DT2W for LG phones because I had it on an LG L41C with a regular LCD screen as early as fall 2014. Apparently, LG had it's Knock/KnockON to wake functionality as early as the the LG G2, which was released mid- to late-2013. Here's a link to a press release:
http://www.lgnewsroom.com/2013/12/lg-expands-knock-as-standard-feature-in-l-series-ii/
So we should certainly be able to have DT2W on the RN2 by nearly summer 2016 unless, as I mentioned above, there is a true hardware issue that prevents it.

Reading your story, it's assuming me that dt2w could implemented properly on any IPS screen, LG done it. But well, maybe oled has some pros.
Our screen is a non popular chinese screen manufacture product, cmiimw by Tianshee & it's an IPS.
Since there're some mt6795 annoying issues specially in hermes like wifi connectio, etc. I doubt a closed co like xiaomi will intend to think about an addition feature like dt2w.
They better realease the source code if they give up.
*] front LED holographic keyboard >> another dream in android

Have you ever disassembled a phone? Display has its own flex cable and its not related to the touch one. Dt2w has nothing to do with screen tech. It works by keeping touch frame active. Screen is off obviously.
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So, what happened?

The beta registrations for the China ROM will be starting from 16 of May, and June 1st is the date for beta testing.
However, June 17th will be the ultimate date to test out the Developer ROM.
There is no word on Global ROM just yet, but it is sure that the global MIUI users should wait even more time.

They start releasing the alpha builds to the testers this week, but at the moment no alpha build yet for our phone

If you take a look at the official Xiaomi forum for this phone (http://en.miui.com/forum-83-1.html), there are probably still more questions than answers about what MIUI 8 will mean for the RN2. For example, it's not clear whether the RN2 version will be based on Lollipop or Marshmallow. Certainly, it will be based on Marshmallow for Qualcomm-based phones, but it's very possible that MUI8 for the RN2 could still be based on Lollipop.
I think there was a lot of frustration about how this was announced vs. how it unfolded in real life. They were making a big brouhaha about the May 10 date, and I think folks generally got the impression that MIUI 8 would be released for all the indicated phones at that time in at least beta form. But then reality set in when they basically announced an alpha program for a greatly reduced set of phones. RichyE has made an attempt at figure out the timeline per the above, but who says they just won't kick off a second wave alpha program for another set of phones, and RN2 support will not come till a later third wave of support? So while we can hope that it is sooner rather than later, until a concrete statement is issued, or MIUI 8 for the RN2 actually appears, it's a guessing game.

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Considering a change of flagships - from LG v20 after just 1 week

Hey guys,
Forewarned. This is a review/rant/suggestion to lookelsewhere. Read on if you dare.
After using this phone for a week I must say, I'm pretty disappointed. While I'm happy with the specs (for the most part) there are more and more problems I have each day which makes me want to change phones.
2nd screen & Main screen resolution:
The addition of a 2nd screen seemed like a pretty awesome addition, but I believe it's a bit overkill without being able to setup customisation of notifications.
Edit 1/12: Have removed some details of second screen in info.
The options for applications or customisation on that screen is SO severely limited, they might as well offer no customisation from the apps other than the 4 you see. The 2nd screen can remain off (while main display is on), or turn on when you lock the main display, OR be on all the time. It's another avenue of losing valuable battery life at the expense of a note so necessary second screen. I imagine this is also quite tricky for devs (or will be) when trying to customise. Also, what happened to the LED light? LG must believe the second screen is better instead, yet they offer way way off setting up specific app notification or the use of colours? It would be better to get something more than a tiny white (and dimmed) icon when the phone is locked? Yes, there's an audible tone, but the LED light allowed me to previously look at my LG G4 from a distance as it cycle-flashed throgh colours letting me know which one (or series) of event notifications I had missed...
QHD display looks awesome on this phone, colours are brilliant. One of the better phones to otherwise look at. I'm glad the battery is 3200mah, because it needs it. I can't really blame the battery capacity as iot's more than most flagships; I blame what wastes the battery more - either a BUG that needs to be addressed in the Android OS itself, orthe fact the QHD is overkill. On that note, why not go amoled instead of IPS? Every 1-1.5 yars when I change phones, my battery size keeps increasing, my usage stays around the same rate, but my bsttery life doesn't seem as great. Generation after generation...why is that? I believe its related to the overkill size of the screen (since flagships keep getting bigger) and the huge QHD boost in resolution.
ORIGINAL POST: This phone, seems to lack ADAPTIVE BRIGHTNESS. Why, oh heavenly lord of all that is SANE, would a company REMOVE this feature? Can't answer for the G5, but it was on the G4 and now it's gone. In strong daylight, I'm blind at using my phone unless I accurately unlock and then adjust the brightness manually myself. This lack of a feature makes it unusable in MANY situations. I could be wrong, but I hope a software update could fix or implement this adaptivity.
EDIT - Update 30/11: I've pushed an OTA update and found this problem to have been addressed, it now appears more responsive and incremental as described below. It had me worried for a minute!!
LG as a company:
Their customer service by phone and chat is quite possibly the worst I've experienced. They know nothing. When they have to escalate a case, they never get back to you unless you pester. yes, many companies could fall into the same category here, but LG 'segregate' every one of their offices for each country. Pick up a LG v20 H990DS in Australia (IDENTICALLY sold in 3+ other countries) and LG Support in Australia have no idea about that. They also ahve no clue about any phones of theirs NOT release din the country you are speaking with. What's worse, is EVERY country has their calls re-routed or redirected to Manila, or some place....so you'd effectively be talking to the same person or team of people regardless if whether you called the AUS or USA support phone number. They are a complete joke.
LG Dev community
Bless your little hearts for the devs that own this phone or are working tirelessly developing for it. It's no secret with the dev community for LG is barely drawing a breathe - LG do nothing for customisation of their elecontrics or provide any interactiopn/support the developer community. Someone can try telling me how they just released a process for the SINGLE SIM USA 'open market variant' to UNLOCK the bootloader....Yeah, that's aweome...for a few dozen people in 1 region of the world. What about every other country or the more popyular dual SIM? Bah... I can't stress how important root has been for me over the years on a phone, an unlocked bootloaderi a bonus, but I don't see it coming any time soon. This is a big enough reason to drop the phone for another with similar specs that has root.
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There's plenty of options out there as we all know, but the clear stand-out for me is the ASUS Zenfone 3 Deluxe. You're probably thinking...why not stop b*tching about this phone and buy that? Well, the developer community for this brand is just as bad - almost non-existant, plus a viable root method (or boot unlock) doesn't exist for this phone yet, otherwise I'd already be on the bandwagon.
FLAGSHIP SIMILARITIES:
-Same CPU
-Same RAM (on 32GB ROM version of Zenfone 3)
-Same screen size
-Both support NFC, dual SIM
BIG DIFFERENCES:
- Zenfone 3 Deluxe *HAS* FHD 1080p resolution, not QHD (but is much better for battery)
- Zenfone 3 Deluxe *HAS* LED light (only 3 colours prior to root)
- Zenfone 3 Deluxe *HAS* adaptive brightness
- Zenfone 3 Deluxe -LACKS- Infrared (IR) which is a big loss
- Zenfone 3 Deluxe -LACKS- No FM radio (not such a big deal to me anymore)
- Zenfone 3 Deluxe runs Marshmalow 6.0, LG v20 runs Nougat 7.0
- LG v20 is more repairable; easy to disassemble and replace parts
- LG v20 allows for dedicated MicroSD slot for expandable memory
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8238&idPhone2=8129
RoOSTA
@roosta
Perhaps consider joining the Xiaomi Mi MIX community:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix
The band support is damn near 100% for your carrier:
http://willmyphonework.net/
Might wanna double-check if you're genuinely interested,the site Frequency Check has different info vs WillMyPhoneWork.
Bootloader unlocking is a breeze (mine came Bootloader Unlocked by the vendor,who installed the Global ROM w/Google,I've since TWRP'ed & installed the EU ROM,much better).
Hoping for CyanogenMod,but,in the meantime,this is nice,just gotta disable the CleanMaster/MIUI bloat (There's a S***LOAD of it,enough to even make Samsung blush,LOL) with TiBu or SD Maid & you'll be good to go.
Whichever device you decide to move to,hopefully it'll have some support from both the mfg & the development community. :good:
ehm... i just don't get it, you chose this phone because it has some features right? and you looked at the specs table too, right? you knew, or at least i did, that there were a few things missing (rbg led for instance)... so why buying it?? it wasn't even a cheap choice, you could have made different choices, you could have gone for a s7 edge if you like big screens for instance, probably even cheaper right now.
auto brightness is there, it hasn't been removed, it's just bugged atm but it's a quite common issue with early releases of softwares, you often hear referring to it as a "lazy sensor"...
the phone you'd like to replace yours with is a totally different phone :/ it seems to have a hifi dac as well, but i couldn't find any real specifics about the chipset... is it as good as the one you're leaving? from the specs i could find on asus website i would guess probably good but not as good? anyway i don't see any mention about hifi dac's on your post, so i guess you don't/didn't care much for it..?
camera is supposed to be a downgrade from your v20... big time. no argue there.
support? asus is quite slow releasing software updates, MM arrived on zenfone2 models in late august/sept, with many many issues and bugs. so my question here would be: when is it ACTUALLY going to see nougat? and are you familiar with asus zenUI?? it's heavy...
so... are you sure you want to trade your v20 for THAT model? for that price??
if you're unsatisfied with your v20, and i can understand it to some extent, just be smarter with your next choice
in my experience phones sporting qualcomm SoC's tend to be supported for for a longer time, and faster. but if you tend to change your phone every 1.5 years you could easily go for a samsung too... and right now IMHO if hifi dac isn't your top priority s7 edge is probably the best choice. price, camera, battery, support. all the package. you have no budget issue, maybe pixel XL? it would have a qualcomm aqstic dac which isn't bad at all... same as htc10.
anyway, good luck with your choice
Um... I don't post often. But, the phone has adaptive brightness. I'm using it right now.
Also, the phone is metal, not plastic. Did I subscribe to the wrong forum? V20 right?
FreeLookMode said:
Um... I don't post often. But, the phone has adaptive brightness. I'm using it right now.
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Cool, prob just need to process the OTA update.
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ehm... i just don't get it, you chose this phone because it has some features right? and you looked at the specs table too, right? you knew, or at least i did, that there were a few things missing (rbg led for instance)... so why buying it?? it wasn't even a cheap choice, you could have made different choices, you could have gone for a s7 edge if you like big screens for instance, probably even cheaper right now
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Of course I checked the specs. It ticked most boxes. Bigger battery was a huge plus, IR, FM radio, one of the best RAW manual shooting UI for the camera on the market (etc etc). But this isn't a LG v20 "this is why I love it" thread. There's obvious concessions that need to be made. I clearly underestimated the customisability of the 2nd screen. Even worse, some email notifications (such as new emails) that come through - if the screen is locked/off, the audible notifications don't come through. Perhaps a bug - but pretty average when you spend big dollars on it.
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auto brightness is there, it hasn't been removed, it's just bugged atm
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That's good to hear. LG are trying to push an OTA update, but I didn't want to apply it, JUST in case someone released a root method and it happens to been software-version-dependant.
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the phone you'd like to replace yours with is a totally different phone :/ it seems to have a hifi dac as well ... anyway i don't see any mention about hifi dac's on your post, so i guess you don't/didn't care much for it..?
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HiFI DAC. The biggest marketing spin for a smart phone feature. I'm no audiophile...but I believe I can determine 'quality'. If using a good set of earphones/buds, I don't notice a tremendous amount of difference between this phone and others I've used. Far too much marketing spin was put into this. B&O branding, etc. LG's focus for this flagship is focused on the wrong areas. Instead, they could have focused on a speaker thats LOUD (hence 'loudspeaker'!). Its far too quiet...
buongu said:
camera is supposed to be a downgrade from your v20... big time. no argue there.
support? asus is quite slow releasing software updates, MM arrived on zenfone2 models in late august/sept, with many many issues and bugs. so my question here would be: when is it ACTUALLY going to see nougat? and are you familiar with asus zenUI?? it's heavy... so... are you sure you want to trade your v20 for THAT model? for that price??
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I have no experience with MM personally, nor with ASUS so that information is somewhat helpful. I'm also not familiar with the UI...but I wasn't with the LG version either when I came from 5+ years of Samsung from G6 to the G4...and it was quite easy to get used to it, i doubt I'd have any problems or complaints with the UI based on the reviews I've reached and watched on youtube?
buongu said:
if you're unsatisfied with your v20, and i can understand it to some extent, just be smarter with your next choice
in my experience phones sporting qualcomm SoC's tend to be supported for for a longer time, and faster. but if you tend to change your phone every 1.5 years you could easily go for a samsung too... and right now IMHO if hifi dac isn't your top priority s7 edge is probably the best choice. price, camera, battery, support. all the package. you have no budget issue, maybe pixel XL? it would have a qualcomm aqstic dac which isn't bad at all... same as htc10.
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If i don't switch to a current phone in the market, I'm keeping an eye on the SGS8 by early-mid 2017. I was turned off the Samsung S6 and 7...their designs started turning int Apple iPhone clones - solid body, built in battery, either a 2nd SIM support (OR SD card, not both). lack of FM radio, no IR....I don't care much about the radio any more, but the deciding factory was a dual sim phone that supported B28 700Mhz. 5.5" phone is preferred, 5.7" the largest I'd probably go. I hate front-facing speakers which ae typically found on HTC's...they get filthy over time. Bad design if you ask me. DO these have boot unlocks and root? There's the big one...
KOLIOSIS said:
@roosta
Perhaps consider joining the Xiaomi Mi MIX community:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix
The band support is damn near 100% for your carrier:
http://willmyphonework.net/
Might wanna double-check if you're genuinely interested,the site Frequency Check has different info vs WillMyPhoneWork.
Bootloader unlocking is a breeze (mine came Bootloader Unlocked by the vendor,who installed the Global ROM w/Google,I've since TWRP'ed & installed the EU ROM,much better).
Hoping for CyanogenMod,but,in the meantime,this is nice,just gotta disable the CleanMaster/MIUI bloat (There's a S***LOAD of it,enough to even make Samsung blush,LOL) with TiBu or SD Maid & you'll be good to go.
Whichever device you decide to move to,hopefully it'll have some support from both the mfg & the development community. :good:
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Thanks for the suggestion. I checked the Xiaomi's latest release. No dual SIM support covering band 28 700Mhz. I must say, I am left baffled wondering why all bands are just left as active/achievable depdning on the country. There's NO reason NOT to have them all. I think their latest-release model only has a chinese ROM with support for other countries languages...rather than a global (or country specific) ROM. The dots for the menu/back touch buttons (which i know, are programmable) just looks wonky. Byut yes, the biggest thing it has going for it is bootloader unlock and root, which is huge.
RoOSTA
roosta said:
Cool, prob just need to process the OTA update.
Of course I checked the specs. It ticked most boxes. Bigger battery was a huge plus, IR, FM radio, one of the best RAW manual shooting UI for the camera on the market (etc etc). But this isn't a LG v20 "this is why I love it" thread. There's obvious concessions that need to be made. I clearly underestimated the customisability of the 2nd screen. Even worse, some email notifications (such as new emails) that come through - if the screen is locked/off, the audible notifications don't come through. Perhaps a bug - but pretty average when you spend big dollars on it.
That's good to hear. LG are trying to push an OTA update, but I didn't want to apply it, JUST in case someone released a root method and it happens to been software-version-dependant.
HiFI DAC. The biggest marketing spin for a smart phone feature. I'm no audiophile...but I believe I can determine 'quality'. If using a good set of earphones/buds, I don't notice a tremendous amount of difference between this phone and others I've used. Far too much marketing spin was put into this. B&O branding, etc. LG's focus for this flagship is focused on the wrong areas. Instead, they could have focused on a speaker thats LOUD (hence 'loudspeaker'!). Its far too quiet...
I have no experience with MM personally, nor with ASUS so that information is somewhat helpful. I'm also not familiar with the UI...but I wasn't with the LG version either when I came from 5+ years of Samsung from G6 to the G4...and it was quite easy to get used to it, i doubt I'd have any problems or complaints with the UI based on the reviews I've reached and watched on youtube?
If i don't switch to a current phone in the market, I'm keeping an eye on the SGS8 by early-mid 2017. I was turned off the Samsung S6 and 7...their designs started turning int Apple iPhone clones - solid body, built in battery, either a 2nd SIM support (OR SD card, not both). lack of FM radio, no IR....I don't care much about the radio any more, but the deciding factory was a dual sim phone that supported B28 700Mhz. 5.5" phone is preferred, 5.7" the largest I'd probably go. I hate front-facing speakers which ae typically found on HTC's...they get filthy over time. Bad design if you ask me. DO these have boot unlocks and root? There's the big one...
Thanks for the suggestion. I checked the Xiaomi's latest release. No dual SIM support covering band 28 700Mhz. I must say, I am left baffled wondering why all bands are just left as active/achievable depdning on the country. There's NO reason NOT to have them all. I think their latest-release model only has a chinese ROM with support for other countries languages...rather than a global (or country specific) ROM. The dots for the menu/back touch buttons (which i know, are programmable) just looks wonky. Byut yes, the biggest thing it has going for it is bootloader unlock and root, which is huge.
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Iphone clones? You mean HTC Mx series clones, which apple and everybody else has copied.
Auto brightness is not bugged. Maybe it just works better on T-Mobile units?
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BROKEN1981 said:
Auto brightness is not bugged. Maybe it just works better on T-Mobile units?
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I have a T-Mobile unit and while auto brightness doesn't work great, it's nowhere near as bad as OP suggests. I've never had troubles seeing it in direct sunlight.
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I have a T-Mobile unit and while auto brightness doesn't work great, it's nowhere near as bad as OP suggests. I've never had troubles seeing it in direct sunlight.
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In direct sunlight it goes to 100%. I'm not sure what issues people have. You can watch how it adjusts itself. Maybe people hate the speed? It does it by increments not all at once.
To be honest, I think the op is ranting for no good reason other then to rant.
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To be honest, I think the op is ranting for no good reason other then to rant.
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Of course, I just do this for the attention.
bishmaster5000 said:
I have a T-Mobile unit and while auto brightness doesn't work great, it's nowhere near as bad as OP suggests. I've never had troubles seeing it in direct sunlight.
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As I said abovr, it's probably just an OTA update that is required on the H990DS to make it work as effectively as the other variants. I've done that now and can confirm it looks to be more responsive. If it's set to auto,
don't make any manual adjustments to the % bar... As regardless of the scene, if you lock and unlock the phone in different lighting situations it's only then it won't adjust.
roosta said:
Of course, I just do this for the attention.
As I said abovr, it's probably just an OTA update that is required on the H990DS to make it work as effectively as the other variants. I've done that now and can confirm it looks to be more responsive. If it's set to auto,
don't make any manual adjustments to the % bar... As regardless of the scene, if you lock and unlock the phone in different lighting situations it's only then it won't adjust.
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I don't have that issue at all.
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roosta said:
I checked the Xiaomi's latest release. No dual SIM support covering band 28 700Mhz.
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I'm looking at going the other way from a Xiaomi Note 4 and looking at the V20 because of the dual sim and band 28
Have you seen the Xiaomi mi Note 2 , there is an international version that is dual sim and supports band 28
63holdenolden said:
I'm looking at going the other way from a Xiaomi Note 4 and looking at the V20 because of the dual sim and band 28
Have you seen the Xiaomi mi Note 2 , there is an international version that is dual sim and supports band 28
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Looks like great specs. Problem there is I believe it might only be 2G capable on 2nd sim. In Australia, the big carrier 2G networks are turned off as of tomorrow at the time of writing this. 2nd sim must be able to support 3g voice calls with data working on the other sim (that doesn't require it to be dual active: dual standby can work but must use some of the newer chips that support the functionality, namely the new snapdragons)
roosta said:
Looks like great specs. Problem there is I believe it might only be 2G capable on 2nd sim. In Australia, the big carrier 2G networks are turned off as of tomorrow at the time of writing this. 2nd sim must be able to support 3g voice calls with data working on the other sim (that doesn't require it to be dual active: dual standby can work but must use some of the newer chips that support the functionality, namely the new snapdragons)
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I'm in the same boat myself with the 2g network being switched off , I have not been able to find any info on the mi Note 2 confirming 3g on the second sim although i do belive the snapdragon 821 is capable of it
The redmi note 4 that I have with the x20 is capable of this although I'm not a fan of miui , that's one of the reasons I'm looking at the V20 because of the dual sim with 3g capability on sim 2
@63holdenolden what are your concerns with the v20? I can sell the phone as much as I can hang crap on it. None are perfect.
The 2nd screen is customisable.
It can show recent apps, any app in the app drawer, music controls,etc.
Just go to the 2nd screen settings menu.
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@63holdenolden what are your concerns with the v20? I can sell the phone as much as I can hang crap on it. None are perfect.
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No real concerns , just being thorough as the v20 will probably be my next phone
I know what you are saying about none are perfect , I cannot seem to find one phone that ticks all the boxes for me but the V20 ticks most of them
How has the reception been for you , I notice a few posts about low signal strength
It would be good to get some local feedback
Thanks
klau1 said:
The 2nd screen is customisable.
It can show recent apps, any app in the app drawer, music controls,etc.
Just go to the 2nd screen settings menu.
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So you're saying, when main screen is off, i can still "customise" my 2nd screen? Go into settings of 'when main screen is off'. In my ROM, i can only choose from Sound profile, wifi, flashlight, bluetooth and capture. Nothing else. (In fact, check the same for 'when the screen is of'. Go to quick tools...there's 5 options. You could argue it's for security, certain stuff can only be accessed when the phone is properly unlocked. That should mean when the MAIN screen is on, you could theoretically pick the apps you want to appear on the 2nd screen, but you can't, Only 'recents'. Same thing for the upcoming events - screen only shows one event. You can;t scroll or view the next (eg if multiple in 1 day). I don't know why they've put so many ceilings and limits to the 2nd screen, it's far from useful
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How has the reception been for you , I notice a few posts about low signal strength
It would be good to get some local feedback
Thanks
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Yeah that's another strange one for me too. I typically only maintain 1/5 of 4G reception despite being in 4GX zone where I live. In the city it's never a problem, but where I am (Telstra) is pretty poor. That said, it's not much different to my G4
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I'm in the same boat myself with the 2g network being switched off , I have not been able to find any info on the mi Note 2 confirming 3g on the second sim although i do belive the snapdragon 821 is capable of it
The redmi note 4 that I have with the x20 is capable of this although I'm not a fan of miui , that's one of the reasons I'm looking at the V20 because of the dual sim with 3g capability on sim 2
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You might find all the informaton you need here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/dual-sim-simultaneous-4g-3g-capable-t3370632
Can anyone tell me if the LG V20 F800 Model has an ir blaster i can seem to locate mines. Thanks

Should I get this instead of OnePlus 3T?

I was set on a OnePlus 3T but this is one sale right now and I LOVE the audio capabilities of this thing. I have a rooted OP1 and have run CM for a couple years. It sounds like this phone isn't as far along as the OP3 when it comes to Roms etc... Correct? Any good Roms with everything working? One with theme customization would be nice too. Being used to perfectly working CM etc. would I regret getting this or should I go for it? Are there good Rom alternatives? I used to be one who would tinker with my phone a lot but these days I want a ROM thati like and just works and don't have to worry about it.
One other thing. It has been a long time since I've had a phone with an SD card slot. Can that storage be used as internal storage? On my Shield TV I can make one huge pool of storage with all the external storages plugged in.
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I was set on a OnePlus 3T but this is one sale right now and I LOVE the audio capabilities of this thing. I have a rooted OP1 and have run CM for a couple years. It sounds like this phone isn't as far along as the OP3 when it comes to Roms etc... Correct? Any good Roms with everything working? One with theme customization would be nice too. Being used to perfectly working CM etc. would I regret getting this or should I go for it? Are there good Rom alternatives? I used to be one who would tinker with my phone a lot but these days I want a ROM thati like and just works and don't have to worry about it.
One other thing. It has been a long time since I've had a phone with an SD card slot. Can that storage be used as internal storage? On my Shield TV I can make one huge pool of storage with all the external storages plugged in.
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You could have just looked at the ROM section of the forum to find your answer. We currently have one CM ROM, and it's not "perfectly working". It's a WIP.
You should buy the OnePlus 3T. The dev community for the Axon7 won't ever be as big as OP, and it seems that's what you care about.
Hola
I was interested in this A7 since it was announced earlier this year due to the amazing hardware and audio capabilities.
Fast forward 3 months or so since I have it, I can say that it delivers on the hardware in most aspects. The issues with this phone in my experience:
1. Camera ain't the best but just ok. Don't consider this phone if camera is important to you.
2. The hardware capacitive buttons are too close together and up to now it is tough to use the back and recents. This can somewhat be managed by using on screen navigation buttons which is available from one of our kind Devs who added it to a stock firmware based ROM.
3. There is no minute vibration controls. It is either on or off. On simply provides a hard, and relatively long vibration, annoying when typing. Yes you can turn it off on your keyboard but I still prefer it on regardless.
4. The single biggest issue for me is the lack of stable third party ROMs like RR, Pure Nexus, multiROM, DU, and the like. Also no full kernel is available yet - I see a Dev was able to provide 1 kernel but it is a work in progress and for that we are most grateful to the Dev. Another Dev, Unjustified Dev, took the time and effort to provide us an instance of CM13.1 but it has major issues with audio and mic. We know that Unjustified Dev has put a lot of time into trying to get the audio working better but due to the proprietary drivers related to audio it is also a work in progress. A few others have been trying to also help but mic is still iffy at this point. So if third party ROMs are your thing then this ain't a phone worthy of your money.
5. So frustrated I was with the initial lack of stable third party ROMs that I went ahead and purchased the OnePlus 3T, man that brand can attract Devs. I used the OnePlus for a few weeks but because I missed the dual front facing speakers of the A7, I went back. By this time another Dev was able to provide a very stable stock firmware based ROM with a few additional tweaks while keeping the audio features intact. I now use the A7 with Xposed and it is now OK. I am still hoping that our brilliant Devs will be able to get us a stable CM instance and I know they are still sacrificing time and effort into trying to provide us something.
6. I go back occasionally to my 3T to play with the latest iterations of some custom ROMs, but audio is the missing feature on the 3T.
Hope this helps you. I can't really pronounce on the other items you raised.
Get the A7 ... Great hardware & software improves (literally) daily!
OP3(T) has poor carrier support in the US. US model of Axon 7 is better tailored to US networks.
The Axon 7 is due to get an upgrade to Nougat in January 2017. I'm sure there will be many fixes to known problems that come with it.
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Hola
I was interested in this A7 since it was announced earlier this year due to the amazing hardware and audio capabilities.
Fast forward 3 months or so since I have it, I can say that it delivers on the hardware in most aspects. The issues with this phone in my experience:
1. Camera ain't the best but just ok. Don't consider this phone if camera is important to you.
2. The hardware capacitive buttons are too close together and up to now it is tough to use the back and recents. This can somewhat be managed by using on screen navigation buttons which is available from one of our kind Devs who added it to a stock firmware based ROM.
3. There is no minute vibration controls. It is either on or off. On simply provides a hard, and relatively long vibration, annoying when typing. Yes you can turn it off on your keyboard but I still prefer it on regardless.
4. The single biggest issue for me is the lack of stable third party ROMs like RR, Pure Nexus, multiROM, DU, and the like. Also no full kernel is available yet - I see a Dev was able to provide 1 kernel but it is a work in progress and for that we are most grateful to the Dev. Another Dev, Unjustified Dev, took the time and effort to provide us an instance of CM13.1 but it has major issues with audio and mic. We know that Unjustified Dev has put a lot of time into trying to get the audio working better but due to the proprietary drivers related to audio it is also a work in progress. A few others have been trying to also help but mic is still iffy at this point. So if third party ROMs are your thing then this ain't a phone worthy of your money.
5. So frustrated I was with the initial lack of stable third party ROMs that I went ahead and purchased the OnePlus 3T, man that brand can attract Devs. I used the OnePlus for a few weeks but because I missed the dual front facing speakers of the A7, I went back. By this time another Dev was able to provide a very stable stock firmware based ROM with a few additional tweaks while keeping the audio features intact. I now use the A7 with Xposed and it is now OK. I am still hoping that our brilliant Devs will be able to get us a stable CM instance and I know they are still sacrificing time and effort into trying to provide us something.
6. I go back occasionally to my 3T to play with the latest iterations of some custom ROMs, but audio is the missing feature on the 3T.
Hope this helps you. I can't really pronounce on the other items you raised.
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Thanks. Fortunately I don't care much about camera quality. With dev stuff really I can get by as long as I can root it and have at least a stockish rom that completely works.
One thing I do like now is the ability to customize the notification LED to change colors based on different things. Would this be possible with this device?
It really infuriates me that almost all devices come out with one mono speaker. It seems like stereo speakers of any kind at least should be standard at this point. Then again I'm one who wishes these phones had physical keyboards because After seven or whatever years I still can't type worth a crap on a screen.
ZTE is a ****ty company with crap software. And the community development for this device is almost non existent (except for a few guys that are doing their best with what they have).
But you get front facing speaker and great audio (with awful support, though).
ZTE is so bad as a company that they dont even let us discuss about the Nougat update. You'd think they learn something after the last update that broke the power managment of the device and couldn't fix anything since launch , but no... 3 months now since the last update and we dont get a proper fix.
So, back to topic. Go with the OP3T, you get a better device, with better support and more resell value.
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ZTE is a ****ty company with crap software. And the community development for this device is almost non existent (except for a few guys that are doing their best with what they have).
But you get front facing speaker and great audio (with awful support, though).
ZTE is so bad as a company that they dont even let us discuss about the Nougat update. You'd think they learn something after the last update that broke the power managment of the device and couldn't fix anything since launch , but no... 3 months now since the last update and we dont get a proper fix.
So, back to topic. Go with the OP3T, you get a better device, with better support and more resell value.
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Not sure what to believe. I have also heard that OP has the worst support and ZTE's is better. I've never had any problem with any phone or needed any support really outside of me messing stuff up with rooting etc.
I saw one review from August talking about the A7's great power management. Are you saying that no longer works?
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ZTE is a ****ty company with crap software. And the community development for this device is almost non existent (except for a few guys that are doing their best with what they have).
But you get front facing speaker and great audio (with awful support, though).
ZTE is so bad as a company that they dont even let us discuss about the Nougat update. You'd think they learn something after the last update that broke the power managment of the device and couldn't fix anything since launch , but no... 3 months now since the last update and we dont get a proper fix.
So, back to topic. Go with the OP3T, you get a better device, with better support and more resell value.
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The Axon 7 has a 2 year warranty vs. 1 for the OP3T so the support argument is not clear-cut.
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The Axon 7 has a 2 year warranty vs. 1 for the OP3T so the support argument is not clear-cut.
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We are clearly talking about a different type of support.
Anyways, in my country I dont have neither OnePlus nor ZTE support so I really dont care about warranty.
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I was set on a OnePlus 3T but this is one sale right now and I LOVE the audio capabilities of this thing. I have a rooted OP1 and have run CM for a couple years. It sounds like this phone isn't as far along as the OP3 when it comes to Roms etc... Correct? Any good Roms with everything working? One with theme customization would be nice too. Being used to perfectly working CM etc. would I regret getting this or should I go for it? Are there good Rom alternatives? I used to be one who would tinker with my phone a lot but these days I want a ROM thati like and just works and don't have to worry about it.
One other thing. It has been a long time since I've had a phone with an SD card slot. Can that storage be used as internal storage? On my Shield TV I can make one huge pool of storage with all the external storages plugged in.
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I am the same as you. Personally I don't think CM adds much compared to stock providing you already use a different launcher. I personally use blinkfeed launcher from HTC on all my phones (and it has custom theming) and I can tell you that with that I don't need any other ROM as I feel the settings menu on the Axon 7 is great. Initially the software had some mild annoyances but with the latest update I am perfectly happy (and nougat update should fix the last remaining issues in January based on what ZTE said).
I think the OP3T is also a strong device, but you would be trading off gorgeous QHD display and amazing sound with slightly better battery life, which I personally don't use, since the Axon 7 charges in 70 min.
Personally I don't feel it makes sense to buy a full HD device going into 2017, as I want to be able to use good quality VR. Also on AMOLED displays which have a pentile screen arrangement 1080p is more like 900p in terms of sharpness. QHD look more like 1200p.
The only case where I would recommend the OP3T is if you are a non VR hard-core gamer and need extra performance as 1080p display can help squeeze more performance, but in most games the difference won't be that noticeable.
yamils said:
ZTE is a ****ty company with crap software. And the community development for this device is almost non existent (except for a few guys that are doing their best with what they have).
But you get front facing speaker and great audio (with awful support, though).
ZTE is so bad as a company that they dont even let us discuss about the Nougat update. You'd think they learn something after the last update that broke the power managment of the device and couldn't fix anything since launch , but no... 3 months now since the last update and we dont get a proper fix.
So, back to topic. Go with the OP3T, you get a better device, with better support and more resell value.
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I completely agree with this guy. I'm blown away by how poorly ZTE have managed things, and their support is borderline non-existent. If the 1080p screen of the OP3/T wasn't a borderline deal breaker for me (VR) I would have attempted to return this phone. If I had to pick a phone right now I'd buy a OP3T, and that's even considering that the DAC on the A7 is a big deal for me which leads me to my next point...
You say the DAC is a big deal for you, well I should let you know that the Hi-Fi DAC it doesn't seem to work in anything but ZTE's default app which is absolute trash with less than bare-bones functionality and it's very buggy.
Edit: I forgot to clarify one point; why "1080p" is so pixelated for VR. It's because AMOLED panels are advertised as false resolutions due to a legal loophole; there isn't legal standard. They use a pentile pattern meaning they have 1/3rd less subpixels, and as much as Samsung's engineers will tell you that it effectively looks the same to the human eye, it absolutely does not, even at extreme density such as "1080p" on a 5.1" display, or even "1440p" on this 5.5" display. On flat colours I can see the pentile pattern.
yamils said:
We are clearly talking about a different type of support.
Anyways, in my country I dont have neither OnePlus nor ZTE support so I really dont care about warranty.
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For me warranty is a decision factor. The fact that ZTE offer 2 year warranty even for unlocked devices is a plus, even if I don't feel a need to unlock right now. The fact that Nougat update will be very fast coming already in January is also a plus.
Only if you are in the US, consider the Axon 7. Anywhere else, including the US, OnePlus is a reliable option.
People complain about the ZTE software. I love it. Had it for 3 days and no complaints. I live outside the US and it works fine on our 4G networks in Trinidad.
The screen and the speakers are two things the Axon 7 trumps over the OP3T. And a visual and listening experience to me is reason enough to get this phone over any other. amoled 1440p and front facing stereo speakers PLUS memory card support and a great battery? Its a no brainer, get this phone
^ I've never really had much of an issue with the cosmetics of skins. The Honor 5x I am replacing is about as heavy a skin as you can get these days and I didn't mind it. People always hate on it because it rips off Apple (ZTE does a bit of that too). Of course I found Google Now launcher, and have since move on to Action launcher, which is just awesome.
It was between the One Plus 3T and the Axon 7. The price is what ultimately did it for me. I got the A7 for $325 shipped on Jet.com, when I called to ask a question and the woman gave me a $15 off code. That's over a $100 difference in price with very comparable specs (even without the code it was going to be $340 shipped). I care about roms, but only after ZTE will EOL the phone. And with prices coming down, and value like this at around the $200-300 price point, I might not even keep it that long.
ZTE needs to make an impression on the US market. Or at least they want to. They did the hardware right this time. Now they just need to do the update dance. Honor (Huawei) committed to two years. These two brands appear very similar in software thinking and other areas. Given the Azon 7's two year warranty, I think the are probably going to also commit to two years of updates, stated or not. It only makes sense. And it also makes sense to announce that. Or anything. Maybe I missed it.
This phone is highway robbery at $325. I might have considered the $100 more if the 3T were waterproof.
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People complain about the ZTE software. I love it. Had it for 3 days and no complaints. I live outside the US and it works fine on our 4G networks in Trinidad.
The screen and the speakers are two things the Axon 7 trumps over the OP3T. And a visual and listening experience to me is reason enough to get this phone over any other. amoled 1440p and front facing stereo speakers PLUS memory card support and a great battery? Its a no brainer, get this phone
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Yeah, I was happy the firts couple of weeks too.
Let us know when you start to get annoyed with the bugs.
If you want good Dev, ROM support., go with 3t. That is my biggest disappointment with the A7. This could change in the near future but it may not. Don't get me wrong, the A7 is a really good phone but if I had to choose again, I would sacrifice resolution and SD card for more Dev support.
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If you want good Dev, ROM support., go with 3t. That is my biggest disappointment with the A7. This could change in the near future but it may not. Don't get me wrong, the A7 is a really good phone but if I had to choose again, I would sacrifice resolution and SD card for more Dev support.
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I don't see much changing as far as dev support goes for the Axon. With the death of CM it becomes even more unlikely that devs are gonna pick it up for development. It's about 6 months since release now and there is barely anything for the Axon so we'll have to be really optimistic to see anything change now. The main difference here is not aftermarket support, but the support from the in house devs of OnePlus and ZTE. And OnePlus is way more mature in that aspect. Mifavour is not half as bad but it will eventually wear you down.

Questions from a potential buyer

Hi there! After my Nexus 5 died due to water damage, I'm looking at a new phone, the Honor 8 being a possibility.
One of the main factors is how well it supports custom ROMs, which is why I'm here.
I see "FPS" being listed on the CM/Lineage ROMs as not working, but I couldn't find any information on what that actually is. I might be terrible at searching though.
Can someone help me out?
Also: Am I blind, or is there no separate Q&A section?
And does this phone support double tap to wake without preventing deep sleep?
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Hi there! After my Nexus 5 died due to water damage, I'm looking at a new phone, the Honor 8 being a possibility.
One of the main factors is how well it supports custom ROMs, which is why I'm here.
I see "FPS" being listed on the CM/Lineage ROMs as not working, but I couldn't find any information on what that actually is. I might be terrible at searching though.
Can someone help me out?
Also: Am I blind, or is there no separate Q&A section?
And does this phone support double tap to wake without preventing deep sleep?
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Fingerprint sensor. There is a Q&A section. This phone does not support double tap to wake. The fingerprint sensor though is the quickest way to unlock this phone as it's nearly instant.
Most people are expecting (and hoping) that Huawei will release source for Android 7.0 Nougat for the Honor 8, which will allow full featured custom rooms.
Hi. I have a nexus 5 as well as my honor 8.
The Honor 8 doesn't have a custom community anything like the nexus 5 but then it wouldn't as it's a new phone.
I love my Nexus 5 as a phone to play about with and to use lots of different ROMs but I don't use it as my daily phone I use my honor 8 for that.
The build of the Honor 8 is a different class, everything about it.
The custom ROMs ain't there a as yet but I'm sure that will change as the source codes are realeased.
The Honor 8 is a beautiful phone that works very well on every level.
I hadn't found the need to root it let alone use custom ROMs.
I find that the Nova launcher together with the themes and fonts available means that I can make the phone look and work how I want it to.
Hope this might help a little bit
John
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
I don't think Honor 8 dev scene is very active and you'll be very disappointed for that. I would say get the OnePlus 3T instead of you want custom rom. The phone is very nice otherwise.
I previously used a Nexus 5 before my Honor 8. If we could get a Nexus-like ROM for it that would be amazing! As it is, I'm running the EMUI 5.0 Beta (Nougat) and although it is better than EMUI 4.1 (MM), it's still not nearly as polished as stock Android on the Nexus 5. There are none of the little flourish animations like the settings gear rolling out when you swipe down on the status bar and the Huaweii replacement apps for things like the Google Dialer have an almost Froyo feel to them in places. The biggest software annoyance for me is that items can't be clicked until they've COMPLETELY stopped moving. This means if you're scrolling a list, you usually end up having to tap the item twice: once to stop it scrolling, and once to actually activate it. I don't know how Huaweii has managed to screw this up, since I've never seen this problem on another Android phone.
On the plus side, the hardware build is way better than the N5! The fingerprint sensor is fast and accurate. GPS works amazingly well compared to the N5. Once you figure out that the NFC is located between the proximity sensor and the front-facing camera, but on the back of the phone, it's easy to use. The speaker is as good, or maybe even slightly better than the N5. Battery life is way better than I ever got on the N5. The camera is better than the N5's except for the lack of OIS. The best part is it's almost exactly the same width as the N5 was, only a bit taller and thinner. It does need a case though. That glass back and metal sides don't have anything like the grip of the soft touch back on the N5.
It really all comes down to the software holding back a great device. I'm still happy with my purchase based on the price, but I really wish it had been the next Nexus with Google software.
if you really into custom roms, mate , you gotta change your mind, or you might get dissapointed
oneplus and nexus are for customs, honor is just for enjoying what you get from manufacturer.
I agree with those who say , more or less, that the custom ROM or developer scene for the H8 is bleak. There's absolutely no good signs since their initial foray into developer relations with XDA that anything good has happened coming from Honor's direction. I don't believe for a moment that EMUI 5 will somehow be the point at which they rally their army of devs to suddenly have a presence or that they are going to release real source code for anything we need to develop.
I've probably send 50 notes to Honor (on their site) about this topic and have never received a reply , or for that matter, any show of interest from anyone there. I happen to like the phone enough to let it just be a phone that won't get customized much. There's not even a decent copy of TWRP for this thing yet that handles everything (all facets, Nougat, Encryption, f2fs, etc).
I hope I'm wrong , in fact would very much like to be wrong. I think the Kirin 950 chip is pretty damned cool as far as how it translates to real world performance and wish that series well in the development world but it's really being sandbagged by Honor/Huawei.
If you are looking for an active development scene, get a different phone. Fortunately my other phones laying around are all actively or were actively in development.
There is little to no dev scene for the Honor 8, as evidenced by the lack of sub forums on xdc (always a bad sign). If that's your priority I'd look elsewhere.

One Plus 5 or Note 8

Hi, I need some advice on which device I am going to buy. I'm going to use this I guess 3 to 5 years as I dont replace my phone that often so this thread will help A LOT. I'm basing on some reviews, speed tests, but the two seems to be on par with each other. Price is/may kind of an issue here as I would love to use some of the money (if I buy the OP5) for the after sales and some personal stuff. However if the Note 8 is really "bang for the buck" then I'll gladly go with it. I also tried to search some issues. Here's what I found so far:
One Plus 5:
GPS Issue
Bluetooth Issue
Overheating issue
Jelly Screen effect
Note 8:
Red tint in a lot of device
Light leak (lights leaking on the side of the phone not much of an issue for me)
If you have some issues with the phone, please feel free to reply. It would be appreciated a lot!
I also created Pros and Cons that might help me but I ended up more confused what to buy. Haha.
Pros for One Plus 5
Performance
Price
Dev Community as I love to mod my phone
Fingerprint Scanner placement + the scan speed is so fast
I've seen a lot of people who still uses OPO or OP2 which means that this device last long
The toggle above the volume like in iPhones
Customizable hardware buttons (I really love this one)
Cons for One Plus 5
Issues above as I really need the GPS and bluetooth, and I play heavy games.
No waterproofing
No Micro SD slot (I guess 128gb is enough but I would love to have the option of expanding more)
Pros for Note 8
SPen
Camera
Performance (but I've read OP5 has better. The 8gb ram may be the reason. But please feel free to correct me)
Display is a plus
Iris Scanner and Face Recognition (Is it accurate?)
Cons for Note 8
Samsung phones tend to slow down after months/years of using it.
Price
Body build is somewhat easy to crack due to glass body + curved edge
Samsung is a little bit strict when it comes to flashing Custom ROMS and I dont know if the SPen functionalities will be affected. (Please correct me here)
Fingerprint Scanner placement
I may be wrong with some of this but I've researched and this is what I've seen.
If this is a point to consider, I'm coming from a Xperia Z3Compact which didn't last long (I hated sony to the hell because of this) because of the digitizer issue. However, I enjoyed tweaking that phone. Now I'm forced to use my iPhone5s with jailbreak.
Note: Just to be clear, the devices in comparison are OP5 8gb/128gb and Note 8 6gb/64gb Exynos
Note: I'm posting this to each respective forum to have a fair discussion for each phone. I hope this is allowed. I also hope to help some people that have the same options with me.
Note 8 Thread: Link Here
OnePlus 5 Thread: Link Here
Thank you guys. After a long comparison, I'm going for the OP5 even with the rumors of OP5T. I just hate the back fingerprint scanner placements which is the trend now. And regarding with the bezels, I'm more into those phone with bezels on top and bottom for landscape usage. I've been trying the S8+, and some games that I play doesn't maximize or utilize the whole screen which leaves some part of the screen blank. However, the screen in the Note 8 is A1 dont get me wrong, but I'm more into the performance and the OP5's screen is enough. Thank you guys!
You are on the OP5 forum so replies can't be realistic... I prefer the OP5 anyday over any Sammy device for just one reason: the OS. I prefer a clean near stock Android OS over the bloated TW UI but that's just me. Note 8 is a great device and all of Samsung hardware is very well made, but the almost double price and the OS give my vote to the OnePlus 5.
I dont have any issues with GPS, Bluetooth and overheat since I bought OP5 til now. Best phone I ever have til now.
I have to disagree for the overheating issue. Same reason with the first reply, I like OxygenOS than TW.
+1 No issues with BT, GPS or overheating here too.
I don't have any heat issues as well. Quite the opposite: It's the coolest device I ever had, much cooler than the Galaxy S5, LG G4 and the HTC 10 which I all had before.
The question, in my opinion, is not "OP5 or Note 8" but "OP5 or HTC U11 or LG V30". But I'm very happy with the OP5!
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You are on the OP5 forum so replies can't be realistic... I prefer the OP5 anyday over any Sammy device for just one reason: the OS. I prefer a clean near stock Android OS over the bloated TW UI but that's just me. Note 8 is a great device and all of Samsung hardware is very well made, but the almost double price and the OS give my vote to the OnePlus 5.
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I also posted this in Note 8 because I expected biased replies in the same forum. So the OS and the price is the point. Thank you sir!
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I dont have any issues with GPS, Bluetooth and overheat since I bought OP5 til now. Best phone I ever have til now.
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I have to disagree for the overheating issue. Same reason with the first reply, I like OxygenOS than TW.
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I think where ever I ask, its OOS > TW. Also, I updated the post and added the Jelly effect. Have you experienced it?
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+1 No issues with BT, GPS or overheating here too.
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I updated the post and added the Jelly effect. Have you experienced it sir?
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I don't have any heat issues as well. Quite the opposite: It's the coolest device I ever had, much cooler than the Galaxy S5, LG G4 and the HTC 10 which I all had before.
The question, in my opinion, is not "OP5 or Note 8" but "OP5 or HTC U11 or LG V30". But I'm very happy with the OP5!
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I've seen the HTC U11, but I'm not a fan of the shiny back and HTC as well haha. About the V30, I guess I can consider it but this bootloop issue prevents me to check on it. Also, I updated the post and added the Jelly effect. Have you experienced it?
No jelly effect on my device.
I came from a s8 and s8 plus and so far beside the screen which to me the op5 looks great screen wise obviously not as great as the s8 but still awesome. And the design of the op5 is more of a shared look with smart phones.
Beside that I am very impressed with the onep5 I do not regret the giving up my s8 for this phone. It's so damn smooth and fluid I've had no hiccups.
I have none of the issues on my oneplus 5 that you mentioned
I'm happy with it.
lazygeniuslanz said:
Hi, I need some advice on which device I am going to buy. I'm going to use this I guess 3 to 5 years as I dont replace my phone that often so this thread will help A LOT. I'm basing on some reviews, speed tests, but the two seems to be on par with each other. Price is/may kind of an issue here as I would love to use some of the money (if I buy the OP5) for the after sales and some personal stuff. However if the Note 8 is really "bang for the buck" then I'll gladly go with it. I also tried to search some issues. Here's what I found so far:
One Plus 5:
GPS Issue
Bluetooth Issue
Overheating issue
Jelly Screen effect
Note 8:
Red tint in a lot of device
Light leak (lights leaking on the side of the phone not much of an issue for me)
If you have some issues with the phone, please feel free to reply. It would be appreciated a lot!
I also created Pros and Cons that might help me but I ended up more confused what to buy. Haha.
Pros for One Plus 5
Performance
Price
Dev Community as I love to mod my phone
Fingerprint Scanner placement + the scan speed is so fast
I've seen a lot of people who still uses OPO or OP2 which means that this device last long
The toggle above the volume like in iPhones
Customizable hardware buttons (I really love this one)
Cons for One Plus 5
Issues above as I really need the GPS and bluetooth, and I play heavy games.
No waterproofing
No Micro SD slot (I guess 128gb is enough but I would love to have the option of expanding more)
Pros for Note 8
SPen
Camera
Performance (but I've read OP5 has better. The 8gb ram may be the reason. But please feel free to correct me)
Display is a plus
Iris Scanner and Face Recognition (Is it accurate?)
Cons for Note 8
Samsung phones tend to slow down after months/years of using it.
Price
Body build is somewhat easy to crack due to glass body + curved edge
Samsung is a little bit strict when it comes to flashing Custom ROMS and I dont know if the SPen functionalities will be affected. (Please correct me here)
Fingerprint Scanner placement
I may be wrong with some of this but I've researched and this is what I've seen.
If this is a point to consider, I'm coming from a Xperia Z3Compact which didn't last long (I hated sony to the hell because of this) because of the digitizer issue. However, I enjoyed tweaking that phone. Now I'm forced to use my iPhone5s with jailbreak.
Note: Just to be clear, the devices in comparison are OP5 8gb/128gb and Note 8 6gb/64gb Exynos
Note: I'm posting this to each respective forum to have a fair discussion for each phone. I hope this is allowed. I also hope to help some people that have the same options with me.
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Well your cons for the OnePlus 5 I don't have any of them. My GPS is rock solid as I use it for work at 2+ hours a day. Locks in seconds and never see drift. Bluetooth? I connect to my 2011 Nissan with no issues and connect it to audio adapter (MPOW to stream Bluetooth Audio to my AUX port) and 2 sets of headphones... never an issue with quality or connectivity. My phone never gets hot and while gaming, i barely notice it gets slightly warm. (EX Kernel manager shows CPU temp at 98F after 30 min of asphalt 8.
Maybe you have a phone you should RMA? But there is no way in hell I'm paying $1000 for ANY smart phone when I can get a phone that's better performing, has longer battery life, faster charging, clean basically Stock Android and likely faster updates then Sammy. I used to be a big Sammy fan but not since i left my Note 4 and got a Nexus 6P and now the OP5.
This isn't a bias, these are what I look for in a phone and the things that made me choose this phone over the S8+, LG G6 and the HTC U11.
The one Phone I would look at today compared to the OP5 is the new LG V30. Simply because It will support the new 600mhz band 71 from T-Mobile. I'd have to see how the battery holds up and how well the OS is optimized cause I'm not a fan of LG and it's skinned OS and it's much slower charging speed.
Update: I forgot to mention the Jelly effect. I heard people saying it effects every phone but I got my OP5 on launch day and I can tell you more then a dozen people have looked at my phone and no one can see a "jelly effect" If mine has it it's so minimal its not noticeable. I believe the severity vary's a lot.
gianton said:
No jelly effect on my device.
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Glad to hear this
xcha0tic said:
I came from a s8 and s8 plus and so far beside the screen which to me the op5 looks great screen wise obviously not as great as the s8 but still awesome. And the design of the op5 is more of a shared look with smart phones.
Beside that I am very impressed with the onep5 I do not regret the giving up my s8 for this phone. It's so damn smooth and fluid I've had no hiccups.
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Thank you for the reply! Makes me want the OP5 more hahaha
aakashverma0007 said:
I have none of the issues on my oneplus 5 that you mentioned
I'm happy with it.
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Thank you sir!
Eric214 said:
Well your cons for the OnePlus 5 I don't have any of them. My GPS is rock solid as I use it for work at 2+ hours a day. Locks in seconds and never see drift. Bluetooth? I connect to my 2011 Nissan with no issues and connect it to audio adapter (MPOW to stream Bluetooth Audio to my AUX port) and 2 sets of headphones... never an issue with quality or connectivity. My phone never gets hot and while gaming, i barely notice it gets slightly warm. (EX Kernel manager shows CPU temp at 98F after 30 min of asphalt 8.
Maybe you have a phone you should RMA? But there is no way in hell I'm paying $1000 for ANY smart phone when I can get a phone that's better performing, has longer battery life, faster charging, clean basically Stock Android and likely faster updates then Sammy. I used to be a big Sammy fan but not since i left my Note 4 and got a Nexus 6P and now the OP5.
This isn't a bias, these are what I look for in a phone and the things that made me choose this phone over the S8+, LG G6 and the HTC U11.
The one Phone I would look at today compared to the OP5 is the new LG V30. Simply because It will support the new 600mhz band 71 from T-Mobile. I'd have to see how the battery holds up and how well the OS is optimized cause I'm not a fan of LG and it's skinned OS and it's much slower charging speed.
Update: I forgot to mention the Jelly effect. I heard people saying it effects every phone but I got my OP5 on launch day and I can tell you more then a dozen people have looked at my phone and no one can see a "jelly effect" If mine has it it's so minimal its not noticeable. I believe the severity vary's a lot.
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I'm really a fan of SPen but the price really kills it. I thought the price would go lower because of the Note 7 issue haha! I've read some reviews about V30 and its impressive. However I'm really not a fan of LG's OS. I tried G6 and its not for me. But I'll try V30 some other time. About the jelly effect, when I've seen the issue in youtube it made me dizzy a little bit but I dont know if I'll be affected in real life. There little to no demo phones of OP5 here in my country. Thank you for your reply!
lazygeniuslanz said:
I also posted this in Note 8 because I expected biased replies in the same forum. So the OS and the price is the point. Thank you sir!
I see, I updated the post and added the Jelly effect. Have you experienced it?
I think where ever I ask, its OOS > TW. Also, I updated the post and added the Jelly effect. Have you experienced it?
I updated the post and added the Jelly effect. Have you experienced it sir?
I've seen the HTC U11, but I'm not a fan of the shiny back and HTC as well haha. About the V30, I guess I can consider it but this bootloop issue prevents me to check on it. Also, I updated the post and added the Jelly effect. Have you experienced it?
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Well, I purchased the phone 1 week ago, and yes, Jelly Effect is presented, but it's barely to notice. So really nothing which I'd somehow annoying. And the performance and battery life of this phone are outstanding
go for oneplus5.. best device that you can get...samsung sucks
lazygeniuslanz said:
Glad to hear this
Thank you for the reply! Makes me want the OP5 more hahaha
Thank you sir!
I'm really a fan of SPen but the price really kills it. I thought the price would go lower because of the Note 7 issue haha! I've read some reviews about V30 and its impressive. However I'm really not a fan of LG's OS. I tried G6 and its not for me. But I'll try V30 some other time. About the jelly effect, when I've seen the issue in youtube it made me dizzy a little bit but I dont know if I'll be affected in real life. There little to no demo phones of OP5 here in my country. Thank you for your reply!
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Yeah I also have a theory that the when the jelly effect on a video capture, that the recording enhances the effect, especially in slow motion. I think it's far fewer people say they see then the people who say they can't see it all all.
The Note's screen is better and the S Pen is great.
I owned a Note 4 but could got tired of all bloatware and Samsung in general. I know Touchwiz has improved but it's still too much.
Super happy with the OP5. I mostly used the S Pen for navigation and I use a simpler stylus I found on Amazon on the OP5 and it works great.
No issues with GPS, bluetooth or anything else for me.
The Jelly effect is present on my device, but I don't even notice it anymore more. Very rarely.
I'd go for the OnePlus 5 just because of the price. I can't see how the Note 8's camera, screen, waterproofing and microSD slot make up for that $500 difference. The Note 8 can't even make up for the $200 difference from the S8, and those are nearly identical phones in many aspects.
I chose the OnePlus 5 for the following reasons:
- Performance
- Development community and support
- Price
Samsung tends to have issues with all 3 of the above.
The biggest difference here being the price and you really need to ask yourself "Am I really getting my money's worth?"
I highly doubt the Note 8 is $500 better than the OnePlus 5 or 2-300 better than any other Flagship launched this year.
Very cool running device... GPS issue may have been the 911 bug, but that was quite a while ago.Jelly Screen seems non existent, but people like to report it never the less (even on moto phone....) Wifi issues? Might be because using inferior x12 modem so I'm disappointed. x16 modem is much better, which is what other flagships using 835 win at. Also oneplus 5 display isn't all that great, just 1080p, it does look good, HOWEVER no support for HDR content i've so ever wanted to view. but 1080p looks very good as any screen if few inches away from.
Kinda sick of hearing the jelly effect as a negative. It's not, its more of an accent flavor. Adding life to scrolling. As for those other issues i have never seen them outside of xXx's rom. Running stock 4.5.12 right now and took a nice drive and my device had me spot on every step of the 2 hour drive. it just depends on what you want. Best hope developer support for the note 8 is more than nothing. Oneplus devices live longer than most devices out there. hell the OPO is on oreo right now. go figure.
Overheating? This phone stays cool with heavy games for more than 40 minutes. I'm not saying as a pro for op5, the note 8 snapdragon version should be the same ( I don't know if there is a snap version for the note).
Jelly is present on EVERY op5, some people see it, some people don't. When I order it I think that the first thing to do was to check the jelly issue, it came and I use it for a day, I didn't remember the jelly issue until I read it in the forum again, and when I scroll fast up and down I see it, but I have to do a fast up and down scroll and be looking for it, I don't see it normal usage. Even it costs me a little to see it intentionally.

original One plus 5T leaked [is it worth to upgrade]

This is real One plus 5T before launch
https://youtu.be/E3Bko4sBgmM
As you can seen above , there aren't any surprises when it comes to the design of the OnePlus 5T. Just as most rumors predicted, the handset looks a lot like the Oppo R11s, sporting a 6-inch AMOLED display with 1080 x 2160 pixels and an 18:9 aspect ratio.
The OnePlus 5T measures 156.1 x 75 x 7.3 mm and weighs 162 grams. Thus, despite its larger display, the new handset is not much larger than the OnePlus 5 (154.2 x 74.1 x 7.25 mm), and its thin bezels certainly help in this regard. Another design change concerns the fingerprint scanner, which now sits on the rear of the phone (whereas the OnePlus 5 has a fingerprint sensor embedded on the front).
Large screen and rear fingerprint sensor aside, the OnePlus 5T offers pretty much the same features as the OnePlus 5, including a Snapdragon 835 processor, a dual rear camera with Portrait Mode, a 3300 mAh battery, and Oxygen OS based on Android Nougat. Things haven't changed when it comes to memory, either, so the 5T has two variants: 6 GB of RAM + 64 GB of storage space, and 8 GB of RAM + 128 GB.
Is it worth to upgrade from one plus one?
As long as our Bacon keeps running faithfully, why would there be a reason to upgrade? It still runs anything we throw at it and has all the functionality most people need. Let's face it, how revolutionary is the smartphone market today? Cameras get upgraded, there's some more power, they get an exaggerated amount of RAM (anyone had any memory shortage on Bacon yet??) and so on.
That said, OnePlus still releases bang for your buck. But so does Xiaomi, Honor, Motorola, ZTE, Huawei... OnePlus may still have the best development community though. That would be the most important reason to stick with the brand for me.
So yeah, if your hardware is starting to fail, it'll definitely be worth the upgrade. But I wouldn't do it just for the sake of updating.
Sizzled with Bacon ?
I don't like the idea that it will come out with Android 7.1.1 and not 8.0.
This will cause unnecessary frustration to buyers. I imagine they have to undergo a period of beta testing until the Oreo update will be ready. Not cool considering the price and the time of the release.
Nope cause less then 6 month from now Oneplus gonna release another flagship and by then you will wonder why you bought the phone in the first place...what make matter worst is that every Oneplus phone since OP3 have only 4-5 month of production before it stop completely to give way for other model in their line up...that can be consider the shortest production timeline ever for a flagship
Timmmmaaahh said:
As long as our Bacon keeps running faithfully, why would there be a reason to upgrade? It still runs anything we throw at it and has all the functionality most people need. Let's face it, how revolutionary is the smartphone market today? Cameras get upgraded, there's some more power, they get an exaggerated amount of RAM (anyone had any memory shortage on Bacon yet??) and so on.
That said, OnePlus still releases bang for your buck. But so does Xiaomi, Honor, Motorola, ZTE, Huawei... OnePlus may still have the best development community though. That would be the most important reason to stick with the brand for me.
So yeah, if your hardware is starting to fail, it'll definitely be worth the upgrade. But I wouldn't do it just for the sake of updating.
Sizzled with Bacon ?
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I also had the same mentality as you, until recent and i decided to opt for the 3t.
i once thought the opo was smooth, fast and still with it (maybe not with games but i dont play them)
I also thought the camera kept up as well as everything else, mate i even thought it charged fast!
Lemme tell you, everything and i mean everything has changed pretty drastic.
from fluidity to even how smooth the glass it. I didnt think it was possible but somehow it is!
Even OOS is slick. Was constantly flashing different roms on the opo trying to find a well rounded rom but every single one had at least 1 issue, whether it be using the CM camera hal, or if it had the notification bug (notifications didnt come through instantly when device was locked) or even if it was shocking battery.
NO regrets to upgrading :good:
I still love the OPO, checking XDA for it more than the OP3T
We should also consider that we are in the verge of a new era with bezeless screens, new 120hz refresh rate technology, wireless charging will spread rapidly in public places and transportation thanks to Apple, new more accurate & more power efficient GPS chips, devices that will support Android 8 out of the box will also be completable with Google project Treble, and maybe fingerprint readers under the display, so think carefully before you go and spend 600$.
Not having Android 8 out of the box for OnePlus 5T will make me wait for OnePlus 6 or take a better look at Google Pixel 2XL. What other phones have Oreo oit of the box? Thanks!
And here we have a way better view of the phone in a new unboxing video
https://youtu.be/fFQ-5pb9eik
frankzappatistas said:
We should also consider that we are in the verge of a new era with bezeless screens, new 120hz refresh rate technology, wireless charging will spread rapidly in public places and transportation thanks to Apple, new more accurate & more power efficient GPS chips, devices that will support Android 8 out of the box will also be completable with Google project Treble, and maybe fingerprint readers under the display, so think carefully before you go and spend 600$.
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Agreed. :good: . That 120Hz is a welcome addition to the market IMO. I'd love to use a phone with that smooth scrolling . Though, I am not sure about wireless charging. You can't use your phone while charging. That tech must evolve to an "Ambient Charging", or something like that :cyclops: .
Specs in that leaked set of photos are wrong. Both cameras have f/1.7 Aperture and same focal length, which makes no sense.
So, I doubt whether we should assume it has Nougat.
I was thinking of getting the 5T as a work phone and keeping the OPO with my personal sim card. Do you think it's a good idea? I was also considering the xiaomi Mi Mix 2 or Mi 6. Another option would be to buy another OPO for 120€, since I'm sure the community will continue supporting it for a long time.
zalamandra said:
I was thinking of getting the 5T as a work phone and keeping the OPO with my personal sim card. Do you think it's a good idea? I was also considering the xiaomi Mi Mix 2 or Mi 6. Another option would be to buy another OPO for 120€, since I'm sure the community will continue supporting it for a long time.
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If you aren't in desperate need of two phones,I'd suggest "NO".
Mr.Ak said:
If you aren't in desperate need of two phones,I'd suggest "NO".
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Not so desperate, but I actually need a second phone in the nex month.
zalamandra said:
Not so desperate, but I actually need a second phone in the nex month.
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If your budget permits,you can consider it.
frankzappatistas said:
We should also consider that we are in the verge of a new era with bezeless screens, new 120hz refresh rate technology, wireless charging will spread rapidly in public places and transportation thanks to Apple, new more accurate & more power efficient GPS chips, devices that will support Android 8 out of the box will also be completable with Google project Treble, and maybe fingerprint readers under the display, so think carefully before you go and spend 600$.
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EXACTLTY! That's why I bought ZTE Axon 7 for like 200 USD from China now. It has front facing speakers, amazing DAC and QHD AMOLED, OP5T has none of them. I had OP5 for a day and sold it - because of PenTile the screen IS LESS SHARP THAN OPO's! It was pissing me off so much I could not stick with the phone, OP5T gonna be the same. Big things are coming, better wait for them if you can - especially Treble and this 120Hz displays - they say it is whole another level of fluidity. My Axon will be arriving in two weeks or so, and is getting official Oreo in December, it has official Lineage and others too. Perfect device for to wait for OP6/OP6T.
idonttakedrugs said:
mate i even thought it charged fast!
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What charger are you using? Mine takes about 5 hours to charge. Fine for overnight but if I run it down, I've got no phone for the rest of the day.
geronphillips said:
What charger are you using? Mine takes about 5 hours to charge. Fine for overnight but if I run it down, I've got no phone for the rest of the day.
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That ain't normal, change your cable. Took me about an hour, 1.20h ish. I was using the cable from my wismec rx75
geronphillips said:
What charger are you using? Mine takes about 5 hours to charge. Fine for overnight but if I run it down, I've got no phone for the rest of the day.
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Are you using original charger and cable?
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Are you using original charger and cable?
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No. I think that one is just as bad, if not worse. The 5 hours has gone down a bit though, 3.5 if I'm lucky now. I have just changed the battery so that might be a reason for the improvement.
geronphillips said:
No. I think that one is just as bad, if not worse. The 5 hours has gone down a bit though, 3.5 if I'm lucky now. I have just changed the battery so that might be a reason for the improvement.
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It is strongly recommended that you use original cable and charger.
Mr.Ak said:
It is strongly recommended that you use original cable and charger.
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You say that like my phone's going to explode. The original cable is about 70cm and only charges 100ma faster than my 3m cable so I'll probably stick to the long one for now. I'm fairly sure the original plug was only putting out 0.2A last time I used it (and I can't find it) so that's also a lost cause. I'm not sure why the original charger would be so much better anyway. USB is standardised so I assume the recommendation is just Oneplus trying not to get sued for other manufacturers' dangerous chargers.

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