I am currently on 4.4.4 and have done the Developer Edition bootloader unlock and rooted. Would like some advice on advantages or disadvantages of upgrading to 5.1.1.
I am on 4.4.4 as well. What guide did you follow to do the bootloader unlock/root? We're you able to do it on 4.4.4? I wasn't sure if I'd have to upgrade to 5.1.1 or not.
Hibby- said:
I am on 4.4.4 as well. What guide did you follow to do the bootloader unlock/root? We're you able to do it on 4.4.4? I wasn't sure if I'd have to upgrade to 5.1.1 or not.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/general/guide-noobs-guide-to-perm-root-twrp-t3360883
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Hello!
I am currently running the latest Verizon of android 4.4.4 on my Verizon note 3. As far as I am aware there is no root for 4.4.4.
Is it possible to flash back to android 4.4.2, then perform one of the older methods of rooting?
Thank you for the assistance!
RootMaster3000
Sir,
Please wait until mods will move this thread to the device specific forum for more relevant answers.
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Good luck
RootMaster3000 said:
Hello!
I am currently running the latest Verizon of android 4.4.4 on my Verizon note 3. As far as I am aware there is no root for 4.4.4.
Is it possible to flash back to android 4.4.2, then perform one of the older methods of rooting?
Thank you for the assistance!
RootMaster3000
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No, you can not flash back. Your stuck right now.
RootMaster3000 said:
Hello!
I am currently running the latest Verizon of android 4.4.4 on my Verizon note 3. As far as I am aware there is no root for 4.4.4.
Is it possible to flash back to android 4.4.2, then perform one of the older methods of rooting?
Thank you for the assistance!
RootMaster3000
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Unfortunately, No. From what I understand, Verizon has "blacklisted" older versions so the bootloader prevents flashing anything older than 4.4.4. I believe you can flash either of the current 4.4.4 ROMS, but that is of little help.
DrMaurer said:
From what I understand, Verizon has "blacklisted" older versions so the bootloader prevents flashing anything older than 4.4.4.
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I can confirm this; just had this happen to me and trying to flash anything other than a 4.4.4 stock ROM failed in Odin.
I've been a customer of VZW for 14 years, and I'm so fed up with this locked bootloader war with them that I'm seriously considering jumping ship. Always been happy with everything except this locked bootloader BS.
I'm a XT1032 user who updated to GPe 5.1 and I noticed it updated my bootloader to 41.19, given past experiences with the 41.18 bootloader it might no longer be safe to downgrade to KitKat 4.4.4 and OTA to 5.0.x as 5.0.x includes the the 41.18 bootloader.
We know from people who downgraded from official 5.0.x to 4.4.2 and OTA'd to 4.4.4 that the OTA procedure causes a hard brick due to flashing the old bootloader, therefore it might be wise to not downgrade to any KitKat version at all if you previously updated to GPe 5.1
yup going from 5.0.2 to KK (4.4.2 to 4.4.4) killed my moto g.
Flashed to 5.1 so if I need reflash I'd side flash to 5.1
Berties123 said:
yup going from 5.0.2 to KK (4.4.2 to 4.4.4) killed my moto g.
Flashed to 5.1 so if I need reflash I'd side flash to 5.1
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I downgraded to 4.4.4 from GPE 5.1 without any problems, now updated to 5.0.2 from 4.4.4
AgentChaos said:
I downgraded to 4.4.4 from GPE 5.1 without any problems, now updated to 5.0.2 from 4.4.4
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perhaps going to 4.4.2 then 4.4.4 did it? Wheras if you went straight to 4.4.4.
Either way won't risk going to KK
even i have downgraded to 4.4.4 from 5.1GPE and didnt face any problem.
It is 100% safe to downgrade ONLY if you do not flash the old bootloader. Kitkat, or lollipop 5.0.2 can run on 41.18 bootloader and even older bootloaders, just remember guys, if you try to flash the older bootloader it will hardbrick your phone. Avoid flashing anh bootloaders at all.
Just avoid flashing the bootloader, and you can go back and forth between Android versions. If you downgrade you'll have the flickering bug, but nothing more.
Flashing the 4.4.4 or 4.4.2 bootloader on a device with 41.18 or 41.19 will likely result in a hardbrick. AFAIK.
My point is that the OTA from stock/GPe KitKat to Lollipop 5.0.x includes the 41.18 bootloader, it will attempt to "upgrade" the 41.19 GPe 5.1 bootloader to 41.18 which might cause a brick the same way going from 4.4.2 with 41.18 to 4.4.4 with 41.13 by way of OTA was causing bricks
I made a mess of my attempt to upgrade to GPE 5.1 , so I downgraded to to 5.0.2 and it also downgraded the bootloader from 41.19 to 41.18. I wonder if that means that the 41.19 bootloader will allow us to downgrade further?
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I made a mess of my attempt to upgrade to GPE 5.1 , so I downgraded to to 5.0.2 and it also downgraded the bootloader from 41.19 to 41.18. I wonder if that means that the 41.19 bootloader will allow us to downgrade further?
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I'm not sure, I wouldn't try it unless you know you can get it repaired for free, IIRC the phone refuses to flash the bootloader if you downgrade it using mfastboot flash motoboot motoboot.img.
In any case, if you guys get sick of GPE 5.1, just flash the Brazilian 5.0.2 Firmware image without motoboot.img and gpt.bin... Then you will have back all Moto features (and will remain in 41.19 for now)... When the 5.1 moto firmware image comes available, just flash everything, including motoboot and gpt, to replace the ones from the GPE firmware...
Even if the 5.0.2 firmware image for your specific country comes available, you can flash it excluding bootloader and partition table safely... Then wou will be able to OTA to Moto 5.1 when it comes available, because you will already have the new bootloader, so there will be no problem.
Luckily, I flashed the GPE 5.1 flashable ZIP from lost101... :good:
4.4.2 WILL KILL YOUR PHONE
The death will happen after OTA from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4.
Speaking from experience :highfive:
So, I am kind of in a mess right now with my phone and I was wondering if it was because of the bootloader. Can anyone please tell me the bootloader versions for 4.4 kitkat, 5.0 lollipop and 5.1 lollipop?
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So, I am kind of in a mess right now with my phone and I was wondering if it was because of the bootloader. Can anyone please tell me the bootloader versions for 4.4 kitkat, 5.0 lollipop and 5.1 lollipop?
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41.13, 41.18 and 41.19.
reading here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784880
I cant understand well If I can use this methid for root lollipop
I mean, can I flash a kitkat kernel only on lollipop based firmware, do the rooting with TR and then upodate the kernel to one there was before?
Or I have to downgrade the while firmware to lets say 4.4.2 ?
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yurais
yurais said:
reading here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784880
I cant understand well If I can use this methid for root lollipop
I mean, can I flash a kitkat kernel only on lollipop based firmware, do the rooting with TR and then upodate the kernel to one there was before?
Or I have to downgrade the while firmware to lets say 4.4.2 ?
confused
yurais
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What firmware are you on?
OA8 maybe?
will tell you for sure later
Performance seems to be better on lolipop, how about the battery life??
Also is there any bugs on 5.1.1 excluding the sd card grammatical error.
Thanks in advance.
mandroid email said:
Performance seems to be better on lolipop, how about the battery life??
Also is there any bugs on 5.1.1 excluding the sd card grammatical error.
Thanks in advance.
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Yes you should 5.1.1 is alot smoother than 4.4.4 and close to 4.4.4 in terms of battery but not as good. You get new interface, better graphics and features. Now the important stuff whichever device you are using 910C-OR-910F when you update to 5.1.1 do it by downloading firmware from sammobile and flash it with odin and the reason is that samsung has locked the bootloader in latest 5.1.1 (u will get the latest 5.1.1 if u update via ota) and it means once you are on 5.1.1 with a locked bootloader you cant go back to 5.0.1 or 4.4.4. All 5.1.1 builds with bootloader number COJ5 and above like COL have locked bootloader you should download 5.1.1 with bootloader coj3, coi3, or pok1. basically anything below coj5 is safe. :good::good::good:
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Yes you should 5.1.1 is alot smoother than 4.4.4 and close to 4.4.4 in terms of battery but not as good. You get new interface, better graphics and features. Now the important stuff whichever device you are using 910C-OR-910F when you update to 5.1.1 do it by downloading firmware from sammobile and flash it with odin and the reason is that samsung has locked the bootloader in latest 5.1.1 (u will get the latest 5.1.1 if u update via ota) and it means once you are on 5.1.1 with a locked bootloader you cant go back to 5.0.1 or 4.4.4. All 5.1.1 builds with bootloader number COJ5 and above like COL have locked bootloader you should download 5.1.1 with bootloader coj3, coi3, or pok1. basically anything below coj5 is safe. :good::good::good:
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Thanks for your reply, it's really helpful.
Luckily The n910h latest 5.1.1 is COJ4 so i think I'm good
Only for the improved notification handling I would upgrade
Trying to find a new SGS5 for purchase and need it to run kitkat but most come with lollipop. Does anyone know which builds/firmwares of lollipop that come pre-installed on new Verizon SGS5s can be downgraded to kitkat? List of firmwares linked below. I know OE1, OG5, OK3, and PB1 versions CANNOT be downgraded but what about OA8, OC4, and OD5 versions of lollipop? Thanks!
http://www.samdown.com/samsung/SM-G900V/
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Trying to find a new SGS5 for purchase and need it to run kitkat but most come with lollipop. Does anyone know which builds/firmwares of lollipop that come pre-installed on new Verizon SGS5s can be downgraded to kitkat? List of firmwares linked below. I know OE1, OG5, OK3, and PB1 versions CANNOT be downgraded but what about OA8, OC4, and OD5 versions of lollipop? Thanks!
http://www.samdown.com/samsung/SM-G900V/
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According to the thread below OA8 and OC4 can be downgraded but have not been able to find anything about OD5 yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...-to-downgrade-lollipop-5-0-to-kitkat-t3088571
Ok...for anyone else looking for this info it looks like OD5 can also be downgraded to kitkat but nothing later than that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66471500&postcount=6