Knox at initial setup? - Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers

Just got the sm-g935f and started into the setup steps. It asks i think if i want to install knox? I did not think this was optional. What do you guys think should i go ahead and install or skip it?
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Skip it

Thanks!
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spankmatic22 said:
Just got the sm-g935f and started into the setup steps. It asks i think if i want to install knox? I did not think this was optional. What do you guys think should i go ahead and install or skip it?
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There's Knox as in the e-fuse and Knox as in the secure container which allows you to keep work and play separate on your phone.
The installation refers to the latter. They are related because if you root and trip the Knox e-fuse, you can't ever use the Knox secure container (amongst other things).
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Dave
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foxmeister said:
There's Knox as in the e-fuse and Knox as in the secure container which allows you to keep work and play separate on your phone.
The installation refers to the latter. They are related because if you root and trip the Knox e-fuse, you can't ever use the Knox secure container (amongst other things).
Regards,
Dave
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Ahh ok that makes sense. Luckily i only have play on mine. No work!
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How do you know if knox is tripped

adamo86 said:
How do you know if knox is tripped
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The Samsung phone info app does this check I think.
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spankmatic22 said:
The Samsung phone info app does this check I think.
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Here is a pic is it tripped

I'm not sure on your screen shot sorry. This is a pic of that app's info. The app is small, free, and has decent reviews.
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Rooting mja

Hello everyone and thanks for helping me out in my last post. OK so I wait and get my mja update, which by the way fixed all the bugs on the gs4. Now I am thinking I want to root but I can't find a guide online anywhere, a Lil help would be appreciated.
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You haven't searched or read much. You can use CF auto root.
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No I have done my research CF doesn't work with sprint gs4 Mja build
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hm I did cf auto root, and it worked just fine for me.
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It made knox go 0x1 right?
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yep
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JayMix said:
It made knox go 0x1 right?
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The only way to root MJA is to use CF and trip the Knox counter.
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OK just a few more questions. So in the distant future will it be possible to turn knox back to 0x0 and unroot phone?
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JayMix said:
OK just a few more questions. So in the distant future will it be possible to turn knox back to 0x0 and unroot phone?
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Maybe. But it doesn't matter. At this point in time, it has been confirmed that Sprint will not be denying service for devices with the Knox counter tripped.
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frostedunit said:
Maybe. But it doesn't matter. At this point in time, it has been confirmed that Sprint will not be denying service for devices with the Knox counter tripped.
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Where did you get this information from? Source please.
JayMix said:
OK just a few more questions. So in the distant future will it be possible to turn knox back to 0x0 and unroot phone?
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I told you it works.
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Yep your right. Only thing I'm having trouble with now is where is my cwm to flash cyanogenmod.
I also have great news for all gs4 users who aren't rooted yet and running mja. I ran cf auto root on my pc with all anti-virus turned off and everything worked perfect, no SU or knox problems at. I was on sprint mja build.
Read up, make sure u have the right software and drivers and you should be fine.
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leaderbuilder said:
Where did you get this information from? Source please.
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From galaxys3man30:
Mr.kennyglass123 just got some confirmed info that sprint will repair/replace your phone with the knox counter set 0x1 so that's some positive news. I've have been able to successfully root and add a custom kernel to 4.3 without any issues and it's not as bad as it seems just people where making the mistake of trying to go back to a earlier update and with the new bootloader that just not possible right now. So, it's not that scary to do this update but I can understand where ur coming from thou buddy. I will be here to help you with it if you need me buddy I have successfully remove all of knox from the ota rom so far so it's that hard to get removed and such. Just trying to give some encouraging info buddy.
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From galaxys3man30:
Mr.kennyglass123 just got some confirmed info that sprint will repair/replace your phone with the knox counter set 0x1 so that's some positive news. I've have been able to successfully root and add a custom kernel to 4.3 without any issues and it's not as bad as it seems just people where making the mistake of trying to go back to a earlier update and with the new bootloader that just not possible right now. So, it's not that scary to do this update but I can understand where ur coming from thou buddy. I will be here to help you with it if you need me buddy I have successfully remove all of knox from the ota rom so far so it's that hard to get removed and such. Just trying to give some encouraging info buddy.
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An important clarification, Sprint will do this! Samsung will NOT!!!! It is very important you understand the difference. If you are paying for Sprint TEP (Total Equipment Protection), Best Buy Protection, or even Square Trade Insurance then the Knox flag shouldn't be a problem. If you do not have any of the insurance packages and you are solely relying on the Samsung warranty for your phone than you should know that Samsung will reject any warranty claim if the Knox flag is tripped or they can tell that you rooted it. They will fix your phone for a fee.

Is it possible to temporarily unroot?

I want to use certain apps like Sky Go and Barclays Banking but they only work on unrooted devices.
Before on 4.2.2 I could use Voodoo Rootkeeper to hide it, which was great.
However, that is incompatible with 4.3.
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danieljamie said:
I want to use certain apps like Sky Go and Barclays Banking but they only work on unrooted devices.
Before on 4.2.2 I could use Voodoo Rootkeeper to hide it, which was great.
However, that is incompatible with 4.3.
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I had similar issues on N7100 (Note 2) and the way round a rooted note 2 accessing Barclays (root detector) was installing an older version of Barclays app, in essence the app looks for SuperSU or Superuser app I believe.
Farravi said:
I had similar issues on N7100 (Note 2) and the way round a rooted note 2 accessing Barclays (root detector) was installing an older version of Barclays app, in essence the app looks for SuperSU or Superuser app I believe.
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How about freezing or uninstalling SuperSU? Would that work?
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danieljamie said:
How about freezing or uninstalling SuperSU? Would that work?
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Would cause issues I think, If the app looks for SuperSU or Superuser then it will still find it. You could always just run clean up and unroot then re-root I guess - But it depends on if you wanna re-root again or if you have 0x0 vs 0x1 etc -
I have 0x1, and I'd be willing to clean up but I guess I need computer to re-root?
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danieljamie said:
I have 0x1, and I'd be willing to clean up but I guess I need computer to re-root?
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Yeah PC ODIN, not too sure if mobile odin would work though(?)
Hmm, would be great if it did! However, doesn't mobile odin require root to work?
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danieljamie said:
Hmm, would be great if it did! However, doesn't mobile odin require root to work?
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Actually not 100% sure, never thought about that or used it myself. *goes to check*
EDIT: Yip needs root

Re - enable Knox?

Hi so I rooted my phone and super user asked me to disable Knox so I did. But I use Knox frequently and now I can't get access it just says device not authorised. Is there away to enable it without a full reset?
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Bad news bro. You have voided the warrantly.
Check knox flag is now 0x1
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Warranty doesn't matter, second hand. I actually use knox lol but I've disabled it somehow
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bobbycarver said:
Warranty doesn't matter, second hand. I actually use knox lol but I've disabled it somehow
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By rooting your phone and assuming you ended up with Knox 0x1, you can no longer use Knox.
You can use KNOX, it just isn't classed as *secure* -- Superuser has disabled KNOX on you, you'll have to find KNOX stuff in either TiB or in Application manager and re-enable it again. If that doesn't fix, then you'll have to unroot (if you choose to re-root don't agree to freezing KNOX when prompted)
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If knox counter is triped....it will not work anymore. ..no way to reverse besides a change of main board
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Oh so once knox is tripped you can no longer use it? I thought it was just a warranty thing
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Well this is a bit of a bummer. There has to be some way to turn it back. I didn't know it couldn't be reenabled. Oh well. I don't need the warranty.

Root without triggering knox?

Hi I wanted to know if there is any way to root without triggering the knox warranty thing ....just want to root ..
Never had a phone with warranty before so don't wanna mess this up.
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I am on 4.4.2 and nc1
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don2012 said:
I am on 4.4.2 and nc1
Smn900
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No way without tripping knox on 4.4.2. On 4.3 still possible but only a few earliest firmwares.
don2012 said:
I am on 4.4.2 and nc1
Smn900
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No way to do that directly. HOWEVER for N900 it seems to be possible to reset knox flag and downgrade - look after the relevant threads around!
xclub_101 said:
No way to do that directly. HOWEVER for N900 it seems to be possible to reset knox flag and downgrade - look after the relevant threads around!
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Really ? That's great ? How can I reset the knox flag ....After rooting ? Can I get a link ? Thanks man
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don2012 said:
Really ? That's great ? How can I reset the knox flag ....After rooting ? Can I get a link ? Thanks man
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Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52329946#post52329946
and here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52408318#post52408318
The procedure will probably WIPE your phone.
So I can root it ...and when I want to claim warranty I have do the whole process regard less of phones fault at the time of warranty claiming. .. ..
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don2012 said:
So I can root it ...and when I want to claim warranty I have do the whole process regard less of phones fault at the time of warranty claiming. .. ..
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Yup that's right
don2012 said:
So I can root it ...and when I want to claim warranty I have do the whole process regard less of phones fault at the time of warranty claiming. .. ..
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As long as the fault will not stop you from doing it - for instance if the USB connector is no longer working you will not be able to get that back

S5 model

I bought this s5 and it's rooted. I want to unroot it for some problems (camera take a long time to shoot and the mic doesn't work properly while calling ) but i m not sure if it's g900f or g900t
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dhia1990 said:
I bought this s5 and it's rooted. I want to unroot it for some problems (camera take a long time to shoot and the mic doesn't work properly while calling ) but i m not sure if it's g900f or g900t
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Take it back and get another one, don't even do anything to it. There is a reason the previous owner got rid of it and they probably are why something is wrong with it.
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dhia1990 said:
I bought this s5 and it's rooted. I want to unroot it for some problems (camera take a long time to shoot and the mic doesn't work properly while calling ) but i m not sure if it's g900f or g900t
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Did you buy it from a retailer or from another person?
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Take it back and get another one, don't even do anything to it. There is a reason the previous owner got rid of it and they probably are why something is wrong with it.
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I bought it from a retailer in dubai and i can't take it back there , i was there just as a tourist :/ i call them, they told me that they don't have rooted phones and the phone was in a closed box..
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Weird, hope its no scam. Sure box was closed? I did see some nasty tricks on that one. Only by really close looking one could see it was opened before. Did you check knox in settings menu? 0x1 I am afraid?
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dhia1990 said:
I bought this s5 and it's rooted. I want to unroot it for some problems (camera take a long time to shoot and the mic doesn't work properly while calling ) but i m not sure if it's g900f or g900t
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well it may just be me but ur rom seems to g900t (in the screenshot) but your post says ur using a g900f
I m sure that's an original one but rooted and the box wasn't closed and it's not just in the forum says it's a g900f (also in the model in settings and the label behind the battery ) but in download mode and ' version de la bande de base ' in settings it's g900t
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Just check the knox and make sure that its 0x0 and then you can install the original rom via odin it's too easy just make sure that the knox is 0x0
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The knox is 0x1 :/ i will try to install the g900t original rom with odin
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dhia1990 said:
The knox is 0x1 :/ i will try to install the g900t original rom with odin
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It will work and won't even trip Knox at all even if it's 0x1 and you can even re-root your device again it still won't trip
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Oki thanks for your answers, i will tell you the results and i hope that the mic will be fixed
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I think you should install the g900f original because it's your mobile model
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dhia1990 said:
The knox is 0x1 :/ i will try to install the g900t original rom with odin
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if its got g900f behind the battery use that firmware
And which one i choose
(Sorry for my ignorance this is the first time i do this )
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SnuggP said:
It will work and won't even trip Knox at all even if it's 0x1 and you can even re-root your device again it still won't trip
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If it's 0X1 then Knox is already tripped.
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dhia1990 said:
And which one i choose
(Sorry for my ignorance this is the first time i do this )
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Go for BTU, thats UK national model. not tied to vensor
Nand write fail
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