hello guys i am a noob here, i have this new s4 from UEA, upgraded to 4.3, tried different country variants, and tried some custom roms but some games lag,like it stutters during gameplay..eg: Plants VS zombies 2 v1.7, i compared it with my s3 and it seemed to run the game faster and smoother than s4. tried googleing up some tips and tricks on the settings but nothing seemed to work...i need some viable advice or help please. THANKS
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hello guys i am a noob here, i have this new s4 from UEA, upgraded to 4.3, tried different country variants, and tried some custom roms but some games lag,like it stutters during gameplay..eg: Plants VS zombies 2 v1.7, i compared it with my s3 and it seemed to run the game faster and smoother than s4. tried googleing up some tips and tricks on the settings but nothing seemed to work...i need some viable advice or help please. THANKS
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Same here with some older games, espesh 2D ones.. Knights of Pen and Paper to name one.... It's a problem from the app side, yet to be optimized for newer devices, as far as I know, anyway....
Probably optimization issues. The S4 is likely to be able to handle a light game on 1080p, but a full blown game may lag due to the weak (for its resolution) Adreno 320. Seeing that the Mali 400 series GPU made up more than 25% of the GPU market share, the developers probably put in huge amounts of effort to optimize their apps for that chipset, so the S2/S3 runs them well.
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even tried a custom kernel that tweaks the gpu up to 2.3 mhz, well it works on the speed and sped up a bit playing PVZ2 v1.7 but still i could see the stuttering, still not smooth as on s3. hope its just the app and not the cpu/gpu issues.
This is such a unique advice given it's a micro console, insofar as when compared to other android devices.
But to maximize gaming performance, would there be a benefit of installing a custom rom?
Quick questions:
1) Like most android devices, does anyone know if this device comes under clocked (in the factory default sense)?
2) Would over clocking this device yield any benefits? hoping it would help smooth out N64 and PSX emulation.
3) Would it be wiser to just stick with the MOJO OS and just wait until an official update (kitkat) to root it? to install the over clocking apps, etc.
4) Is an update actually coming or is this wishful thinking on our parts?lol
Seems like there are so many possibilities for this neat little console. Hoping this device isn't too DOA given that they've priced themselves out of the market and the OUYA craze (whatever little fad it was) seems to be fading fast.
1. There are almost always benefits to custom ROMs....They usually are built for performance, and custom kernels make the world go 'round.
2. There is no problem with PSX emulation (FPSE is perfect on every game I've tried), and the problem with N64 emulation comes down to optimizing the app for the hardware....So I don't think overclocking would solve anything with N64. N64 games run the same on my old Tegra 2 as they do on my Tegra 3 as they do on my MOJO. It's not a fault of the hardware being inadequate.
3. Why wait for an update to root? There's always the chance you would lose root when updating, but there's an equal chance that you wouldn't be able to re-root after the update.
4. I imagine there will be at least one major update to KitKat...Possibly in Q2 or Q3.
For obvious reasons I can't talk to question 2 other than to strongly recommend that you don't overclock - indeed, it's worth repeating here that of course rooting your device does invalidate your warranty. Unlike a lot of Android devices which have battery performance to worry about, M.O.J.O. is not underclocked at all - as we're purely running from the mains there's no reason to do so and there's a massive heatsink in there to prevent thermal issues resulting in reduced performance too.
We are looking to provide an update to KitKat but we'll update on that as and when it's closer to realisation.
Things, you can do now to boost performance is, to set the governor from "interactive" to "performance" and set the min clock speed to 1800 MHz.
Brings some nice boost in benchmarks, but can't really say, that you get a real benefit in gaming.
I believe, that custom kernels and ROMs are not as easy as we think. You see, that even with the fastboot root method, there is no other way to reboot, as to unplug the cables.
So, that means, if I'm not wrong, that you can't temporarily boot/test custom kernels or recoveries.
But maybe someone will find a solution for this...
I was wondering if anyone knows what effect it has on gaming performance, specifically how does GPU over clocking compare to CPU over clocking with emulators like epsxe,Dosbox turbo, recast...etc. I just rooted my n7 for the first time and this will be my first flashed ROM so noob doesn't even begin to describe me. Still, I was just wondering if anyone had experience with it and would emulators got off of Google play even work on since from what I read you need slim gapps instead of the others, though those are Google proprietary apps. Could any one help me out?
Hi guys,
first of all let me apologize for this stupid question. Personally I hate these questions too, but I have my device in service for 3 weeks, therefore I'm not able to continue with my research...
It's already a long time since I've bought my G2 (D802). Of course, the first thing what I've done > go to custom ROM ... (It's my habit since Xperia Arc S) I think that I was dissappointed of my new LG G2 even then. Games wasn't fluent and lagless as I supposed they should be. It was another good reason to go to the custom ROM. But unfortunatelly and surprisingly it was even worse. So I find another thing why is that so bad. In that time custom ROMS wasnť based on Kitkat sources (kernel), so I hoped that everything will be fine after developers merge source code. But the improvement has never become (in that form I hoped for) In that time I became reconciled that I will never play games on my G2 as smooth as on my iPad.
That's the reason why I'm looking for the best ROM for games. (I'm a heavy gamer)
So my question: Do you know any good rom for Gaming? Could you recommend me something?
I tried Mahdi. PA, Beanstalk, Slim ROM, CloudyStock, Pro, Flex, G3... But none of these ROMs is fine...
(I can't understand how can be Cloudy ROMs so popular (Nothing against Cloudyfa ) because they have too many lags in games !!! I think it's more laggier than stock...
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Hi guys,
first of all let me apologize for this stupid question. Personally I hate these questions too, but I have my device in service for 3 weeks, therefore I'm not able to continue with my research...
It's already a long time since I've bought my G2 (D802). Of course, the first thing what I've done > go to custom ROM ... (It's my habit since Xperia Arc S) I think that I was dissappointed of my new LG G2 even then. Games wasn't fluent and lagless as I supposed they should be. It was another good reason to go to the custom ROM. But unfortunatelly and surprisingly it was even worse. So I find another thing why is that so bad. In that time custom ROMS wasnť based on Kitkat sources (kernel), so I hoped that everything will be fine after developers merge source code. But the improvement has never become (in that form I hoped for) In that time I became reconciled that I will never play games on my G2 as smooth as on my iPad.
That's the reason why I'm looking for the best ROM for games. (I'm a heavy gamer)
So my question: Do you know any good rom for Gaming? Could you recommend me something?
I tried Mahdi. PA, Beanstalk, Slim ROM, CloudyStock, Pro, Flex, G3... But none of these ROMs is fine...
(I can't understand how can be Cloudy ROMs so popular (Nothing against Cloudyfa ) because they have too many lags in games !!! I think it's more laggier than stock...
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What's the definition of "lagless" for you, and what games are you playing?
First of all, you have to realise and acknowledge that this is a smartphone. No matter what, it's still a phone and it's not made for heavy gaming. Second, you have to realise that despite the fact that many developers (ie Gameloft) has a lot of experience with games, they're too lazy too optimize them even for the most powerful chips out there. The games utilise 100% CPU speed even if they don't need it at all, and then the CPU throttles down because it's becoming too hot. Logic/10.
Thirdly, you have to realise that the ROM is not what makes the game fluid or lag-free. It's the kernel.
Since the G2 (like ALL other phones) is cooled passively (it has no fan whatsoever), it's important that it runs as cool as possible to prevent overheating and throttling.
My advice to you would be the following:
Install your favourite ROM and a kernel you can tweak heavily (gpu/cpu). A good bet would be dorimanx.
Go to kernel settings, and chance max frequency to 1.27 Ghz or around that. Change governor to performance.
Change GPU to 450 Mhz.
Try playing a game =)
I used to play Asphalt 8 back when I first got the phone and I got about 30 FPS? Anyway it was smooth as butter, and I see no real reason why you want to put a custom rom on your phone. The good 'ol days where nothing was better than custom roms are pretty much over. Stock is just fine, root it, use a custom kernel if neccessary and use xposed. Will solve it.
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What's the definition of "lagless" for you, and what games are you playing?
First of all, you have to realise and acknowledge that this is a smartphone. No matter what, it's still a phone and it's not made for heavy gaming. Second, you have to realise that despite the fact that many developers (ie Gameloft) has a lot of experience with games, they're too lazy too optimize them even for the most powerful chips out there. The games utilise 100% CPU speed even if they don't need it at all, and then the CPU throttles down because it's becoming too hot. Logic/10.
Thirdly, you have to realise that the ROM is not what makes the game fluid or lag-free. It's the kernel.
Since the G2 (like ALL other phones) is cooled passively (it has no fan whatsoever), it's important that it runs as cool as possible to prevent overheating and throttling.
My advice to you would be the following:
Install your favourite ROM and a kernel you can tweak heavily (gpu/cpu). A good bet would be dorimanx.
Go to kernel settings, and chance max frequency to 1.27 Ghz or around that. Change governor to performance.
Change GPU to 450 Mhz.
Try playing a game =)
I used to play Asphalt 8 back when I first got the phone and I got about 30 FPS? Anyway it was smooth as butter, and I see no real reason why you want to put a custom rom on your phone. The good 'ol days where nothing was better than custom roms are pretty much over. Stock is just fine, root it, use a custom kernel if neccessary and use xposed. Will solve it.
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Of course that kernel is the most important thing in performance (because of sequencer laws, etc...), but nowadays we have no (except render) custom kernels for AOSP/ CM ROMs, so my question was focused on a ROM → I connected it to the whole... (And furthermore each ROM has own kernel. + ROM can cause lags as well)
used to play Asphalt 8 back when I first got the phone and I got about 30 FPS?
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Unfortunately these times are gone, at least I think it. There were lots of updates, which increase the performance consumption (Simply they add tons of new features and stuff, but they ,,forget" to optimize that... ) I played this game, Dead trigger 2, Dungeon Hunter 4 and even simple games like traffic racer with incredibly high count of lags (And it wasn't lags in miliseconds → not always). I thought it was because of my current ROM (Mahdi) so I tried PA and then stock based ROMs (CloudyFlex, Stock) but nearly no changes) Therefore I think it will be the same on stock ROMs too, if it's on Cloudy ROM with heavily optimized kernel, system... (Even Dorimanx kernel doesn't change anything).
Go to kernel settings, and chance max frequency to 1.27 Ghz or around that. Change governor to performance.
Change GPU to 450 Mhz
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Thanks for this tip, I tried something similar but with UC to 1,9 GHz and I didn't set governor to performance (My device was incredibly hot in a while with performance governor), I didn't notice any bigger changes - I expected that lower frequency will cause even more lags and I was obviously wrong. For sure I will try your advice.... :laugh:
The good 'ol days where nothing was better than custom roms are pretty much over. Stock is just fine, root it, use a custom kernel if neccessary and use xposed. Will solve it
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I don't like the LG's design of system, and I don't like xposed → it causes higher battery consumption and it ,,eats" RAM and performance (At least on my previous device )
i have 10 xposed modules installed and i didn't notice any additional battery decrease...
as for ram, as stated many times - free ram = wasted ram...
as for the thread - "what's the best this&that" threads aren't allowed on xda
i played rr3 and csr racing on this device and didn't notice anything wrong with the framerate (stock kk v20f, rooted with dorimanx kernel on default)
Oddly enough, I haven't noticed a major change in gaming performance coming from the S4 Pro. Asphalt 8 specifically is buggy, sluggish, etc on my LG OG & G2, but I don't care for android gaming since the apps aren't optimized (too many HW configs, whereas iOS is just SGX & Ax chips).
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First of all, I like to say that we lacked similar threads, so OP started an useful topic. I would have stayed with simple dual-core smartphone, but I bought G2 in November for a reason, to try new games and so on, I woudn't have bought it if I needed a phone only for texting and browsing, like many argue like this. What I observed is that, 2,3 Ghz for a phone with passive cooling is a nonsense because after few minutes of gaming it will keep running like 1,5 Ghz and lower, hell what's the use of those 4 cores if a device would burn out. I never owned an apple product, but on my colleague's 5S, they run very smooth and fast with same graphics on a dual-core, so it all goes to optimazing and not using these ridiculous frequencies. I was expecting a lot from a phone like that, sorry for a long post.
Hi guys! I'll be brief.
I have tried in several sites on how to configure a Kernel for games, but I did not find anything definitive some say that others say that. I have no knowledge on Linux at all.
What happens is the following, when I play moba legends or world of kings, after a certain time about 5min or even after starting. The game is choking, I've tried everything I've already installed numerous roms the main ones I installed was the lineage, with oc-hotplug. I think it's the low CPU frequency and also the GPU, I can not find any roms with a "stronger" kernel. With a wider oc. Currently I use the 16.0 lineage with oc-hotplug. But it also does not help to just change the CPU frequencies It is GPU, what do you recommend me do? I live in a country where electronics are expensive because of taxes and I can not afford a better smartphone for now. Can you help me? What I want seems like a miracle but I just want it to run the game in the minimum configurations of video graphics, and have a playable performance, because I end up losing games because of these slips.
Thank you very much in advance!:fingers-crossed: