Rooted but received ota update?? - Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys i have g900f in the UK and i am on KK 4.4.2 Rooted with stock rom. Today i received a software update message, i went to software update and its showing me a update package of 194mb and its giving me the option to download it however i am rooted with towel root and knox 0x0.
Any ideas of this update? If i do it, would it wipe away my root? I have left a screen shot below. Thanks
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In all probability it will update the device to Lollipop. .....and that WILL remove your root access.
The only thing that is preventing me from being certain of the fact is the size of the download....194 Mb is very small considering a full LP firmware is somewhere in the region of 1.36 Gb.....
Do you have a reason for staying on KK or is it just that you haven't had an opportunity to upgrade to LP before today?
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg

There is no Lollipop within Europe, until beginning of May.
Any phones it should have all latest security patches at any cost.

keithross39 said:
In all probability it will update the device to Lollipop. .....and that WILL remove your root access.
The only thing that is preventing me from being certain of the fact is the size of the download....194 Mb is very small considering a full LP firmware is somewhere in the region of 1.36 Gb.....
Do you have a reason for staying on KK or is it just that you haven't had an opportunity to upgrade to LP before today?
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I like Kitkat as you can root it with Towel and have Knox 0x0. My warranty expires in August, so i am generally waiting for the official Marshmallow update, then i will upgrade the software to it.
Its werid how i got that update notification, because i restarted my phone earlier and checked again for updates, and it told me my device is modified and cannot update now. Maybe it was a glitch, but i am certainly not updating it to lollipop
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Yes if you have root access every one remotely has root access to your own phone too.
This is not a perfect world.

Kiriakos-GR said:
Yes if you have root access every one remotely has root access to your own phone too.
This is not a perfect world.
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Could you please elaborate? I will be updating to marshmallow as soon as it drops with the latest security patches.
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While I am just a industrial electrician playing with motors , cables, and electronics, even so I am also aware of what is: Remote hijacking of a Smartphone.
Samsung security patches and lollipop (By Samsung) both are additional added shields against all sort of hijacking, due apps, remote access or direct unauthorized access.

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290 OTA available!

Hi guys, just thought I would inform you that the 290 OTA is out in the USA. I have a c6903 that was imported here, SO I do not know if the phone has a location set or if its just going by my carriers connectivity, which is StraightTalk.
Should I update OTA and see if it preserves root?
You can't do OTA if rooted. Sony has taken care of that. OTA will fail if you try.
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I guess I should read the forums a bit better. Yes, the update did fail.
I thought sony sort of "encouraged" rooting.
Anyways, I wasted space on the forum.. =(
naga.nino said:
You can't do OTA if rooted. Sony has taken care of that. OTA will fail if you try.
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Strange beause it worked for me. I have C6903 unbranded (Romania).
I flashed 534, rooted, OTA-updated to 257 (root was kept)
Today I received the notification that an update to 290 is available.
So I successfully updated to 290 via OTA. Root is lost though
krenogin said:
I guess I should read the forums a bit better. Yes, the update did fail.
I thought sony sort of "encouraged" rooting.
Anyways, I wasted space on the forum.. =(
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I did OTA update and root is survived but partial root only. System files are write protected. If you want fully working root, you need to unlock the bootloader (at least for now).
I removed root and couldn't update OTA. Had to resort to the pc companion. I hope this helps in the development of a solution to get a 4.3 OTA root.
We have to detect which firmware could handle OTA update with root.
Same thing happened on some 257 firmware but...
Sony fixed exploit space that devs used to root and even if you find firmware (like @ktxed) that can be updated on rooted devices - you'll have only partial root.
And that means - you'll be able to flash everything through recovery but as soon as OS boot - you can't write to system anymore.
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I noticed partial root stops working after a while.I flashed custom rom on Lb.

[Q] Any downside to rooting other than warranty/knox?

I am considering rooting my Canadian (Rogers) Note 3 (SM-N900W8) in order to defeat the ludicrous SD-Card crippling brought by the latest Kitkat 4.4.2 software update. I'm aware that by doing so the Knox 0x1 counter will void the warranty. What I'd like to know is whether there are any additional negative results besides this well-known one.
For example I've seen inconsistent reports of the Screen Mirroring function being disabled as soon as the device is rooted. Some claim it is more related to the presence of a custom kernel, recovery or ROM, while others insist that merely rooting with everything stock was enough to disable screen mirroring.
If I do nothing more than use CF-Autoroot as described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466423
...no custom recovery, kernel or ROM, do I risk any undesirable repercussions other than the warranty and Knox issue? Will screen mirroring or any other functions work worse than they did before?
Thanks for any help...
Rooting won't break any functionality of the phone except the security it was meant for i.e the secure container ( and of course, depending on who you ask, warranty ). Problems you mentioned are probably related to custom roms themselves.
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hey_joe said:
Rooting won't break any functionality of the phone except the security it was meant for i.e the secure container ( and of course, depending on who you ask, warranty ). Problems you mentioned are probably related to custom roms themselves.
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Thanks for your reply... and will it also not interfere with any potential future over-the-air updates that might come along, be it a 4.4.3 update or a more trivial software patch to fix an issue that gets released? I realize that a major enough OTA update might un-root the phone which is fine.. I just wouldn't want to brick or lose access to updates because of root. Would they continue to be accessible, or would I likely have to first un-root manually to enable them?
Thanks again...
Yes you can not OTA update on the rooted phone.
You can unroot and apply the OTA update.
Or use the fake system status option in the Wanam.
vndnguyen said:
Yes you can not OTA update on the rooted phone.
You can unroot and apply the OTA update.
Or use the fake system status option in the Wanam.
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Thanks... if memory serves (been a while for me since last rooted device) all that is necessary to unroot is to run the administrative option from within the Superuser app itself, to remove the SU binary completely.. correct? And then to re-root just repeat the previous CF-Autoroot steps and regain SU?
paleozord said:
Thanks for your reply... and will it also not interfere with any potential future over-the-air updates that might come along, be it a 4.4.3 update or a more trivial software patch to fix an issue that gets released? I realize that a major enough OTA update might un-root the phone which is fine.. I just wouldn't want to brick or lose access to updates because of root. Would they continue to be accessible, or would I likely have to first un-root manually to enable them?
Thanks again...
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You don`t need OTA`s mate, just download the new updated rom from Sammobile and flash it with Mobile Odin Pro and you`ll even keep root
gee2012 said:
You don`t need OTA`s mate, just download the new updated rom from Sammobile and flash it with Mobile Odin Pro and you`ll even keep root
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So all ROM and software updates are always made available directly from Samsung as flashable downloads, on the same day they're released to devices over-the-air? As a general rule?
paleozord said:
So all ROM and software updates are always made available directly from Samsung as flashable downloads, on the same day they're released to devices over-the-air? As a general rule?
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Within a day usualy you can download the full rom from here www.sammobile.com/firmwares/2/ and flash it with Odin or better yet Mobile Odin.
paleozord said:
So all ROM and software updates are always made available directly from Samsung as flashable downloads, on the same day they're released to devices over-the-air? As a general rule?
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Or you can open the app Phone INFO ★Samsung★, select menu 'Firmware Browser...' to see a list of available stock firmwares for your phone.
Tap to view firmware's details, there is also a download link. You can download it and then flash by Kies or Odin.
(screenshots are attached)

《Q》 New software update available?

Did anybody else get this update it just popped up on mine today will it break my root? Includes sidesync app with update. Update is 147.33 mb. Thanks for any info...
tkienzle said:
Did anybody else get this update it just popped up on mine today will it break my root? Includes sidesync app with update. Update is 147.33 mb. Thanks for any info...
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Always assume that any OTA or official update will break root and there is some risk that an update will actually brick your phone.
You should also assume that any OTA or official updates will prevent any known root methods from working in the future.
In short, if you are rooted don't take an OTA and if you think you want to root in the future still don't take an OTA.
One of the first things I do when I root a device is disable the OTA update mechanism so I'll never even see the notification.
Yes, the the new firmware update did break my root. I used towelroot. I have a galaxy tab 4 10.1 sm-t530nu.
Can you guys tell me whats the changelog? I dont want to lose root, but its worth it if its a major update.
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I updated my SM-T335 today. Changelog just said "Stability improvement"
I just bought this tablet today....didn't even think about the update...now I have to wait to root.
Not necessarily.
Im working on reverting my 10.1 to the prior firmware version. I just need to confirm that this is the appropriate firmware
PDA: T530NUUEU1AND4
OK, I used odin and restored the previous firmware. Ran towelroot again, and all is back to the way it was before the mistake in software update.
I was able to freeze LocalFOTA.apk but these were not there to freeze:
Kies.apk
SyncmIDM.apk
SyncmIDS.apk

[Early Warning] DO NOT TAKE OTAs after upgrading to Lollipop

If you've upgraded to the new Lollipop 5.0.1 update (N910VVRU1BOAF) for Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (N910V):
MAKE SURE YOU NEVER TAKE ANY OTA
unless/until
IT IS CONFIRMED THAT IT IS SAFE TO UPGRADE/DOWNGRADE
or
A dev has made a SAFE UPGRADE via Odin or recovery-flashable .ZIP​
One of the main advantages of this update is that you can use ODIN to go back to KK 4.4.4 at anytime, since the bootloader isn't incremented.
For Retail Edition: This is very important if you want to gain ROOT access when available & keep it over OTAs then.
For Developer Edition: Some of you have taken the OTA & restored his aboot backup via Odin. This was fine ONLY for this update. However, if the bootloader is incremented with any coming OTA, it'll block your unlocked bootloader for good & you'll end up with a Retail Edition. Moreover, if you were able to restore your aboot over an incremented bootloader using ADB/dd/etc utilizing ROOT access, you'll most likely HARD BRICK your device since the other critical partitions (TZ, SBL, ... etc) can break boot sequence due to failure in signature verification or version check.
Do we know if the updates will automatically install after a period of time?
I'm still on 4.4.4 NJ5, and the dialog pops up periodically. I am running without using the "no OTA" script at the moment. Has anyone experienced the phone update by itself after a while?
^^^I'm not sure, but I've been postponing mine since the Ota was pushed.
Hibby- said:
Do we know if the updates will automatically install after a period of time?
I'm still on 4.4.4 NJ5, and the dialog pops up periodically. I am running without using the "no OTA" script at the moment. Has anyone experienced the phone update by itself after a while?
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droidx2.3.3 said:
^^^I'm not sure, but I've been postponing mine since the Ota was pushed.
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It's recommended to disable the OTA & manually update whenever you wish, if it's safe.
When blocking/disabling packages, which is the one that stops OTA. I've used the debloat tool for lollipop but just want to ensure that I've blocked it since I don't see any packages titled specifically as "OTA"
itspeat said:
When blocking/disabling packages, which is the one that stops OTA. I've used the debloat tool for lollipop but just want to ensure that I've blocked it since I don't see any packages titled specifically as "OTA"
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I believe your looking for "SDM"
rhilway said:
I believe your looking for "SDM"
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You are correct.
Manually updating
hsbadr said:
It's recommended to disable the OTA & manually update whenever you wish, if it's safe.
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Know where I can grab the 5.01 firmware? I've already debloated / disabled OTA's, etc.
Also, I'm going to want to flash it through Odin, right? I'm on the retail edition (N910V)
Much Appreciated
Nameless crowd face said:
Know where I can grab the 5.01 firmware? I've already debloated / disabled OTA's, etc.
Also, I'm going to want to flash it through Odin, right? I'm on the retail edition (N910V)
Much Appreciated
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For Retail Edition, follow instructions here to flash N910VVRU1BOAF_FullFirmware.tar.md5.7z!
So if if I upgraded to Lollipop can I still downgrade back to Kit Kat?
hsbadr said:
For Retail Edition, follow instructions here to flash N910VVRU1BOAF_FullFirmware.tar.md5.7z!
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Thank you again man
samhainww said:
So if if I upgraded to Lollipop can I still downgrade back to Kit Kat?
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I did last night, just use Odin to flash the NJ5 firmware, when it tries to boot the first time it will bootloop. Pull the battery, replace the battery and boot to recovery (vol up+home+power) then wipe data. The phone will boot to the setup wizard for KK.
I'm a bit confused about this thread. What would the next update lock that isn't already locked? As I understand, the hope of rooting now is looking quite dim.
Not sure I care much since the SD card limitation has been addressed. That was the only reason I rooted my last phone.
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starbuckk said:
I'm a bit confused about this thread. What would the next update lock that isn't already locked? As I understand, the hope of rooting now is looking quite dim.
Not sure I care much since the SD card limitation has been addressed. That was the only reason I rooted my last phone.
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From what I understand, its been confirmed that you can downgrade back to KK from 5.01. However, any updates thereafter (esp. OTA's through your carrier) have the potential to take away that ability to downgrade. A good example of this is the situation that happend with Verizon's Galaxy S4. The Update after MDK locked both the bootloader and the ability to downgrade back to MDK. No one was able to figure out how to downgrade back to MDK and only those fortunate enough not to have taken the update after mdk could flash custom roms that weren't touchwiz based (ie aosp). Since we don't know what the future holds for root on this device, its wise to keep all of your avenues open.
starbuckk said:
I'm a bit confused about this thread. What would the next update lock that isn't already locked? As I understand, the hope of rooting now is looking quite dim.
Not sure I care much since the SD card limitation has been addressed. That was the only reason I rooted my last phone.
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Nameless crowd face said:
From what I understand, its been confirmed that you can downgrade back to KK from 5.01. However, any updates thereafter (esp. OTA's through your carrier) have the potential to take away that ability to downgrade. A good example of this is the situation that happend with Verizon's Galaxy S4. The Update after MDK locked both the bootloader and the ability to downgrade back to MDK. No one was able to figure out how to downgrade back to MDK and only those fortunate enough not to have taken the update after mdk could flash custom roms that weren't touchwiz based (ie aosp). Since we don't know what the future holds for root on this device, its wise to keep all of your avenues open.
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+1
Another example, some Note 3 users fall into the trap of 4.4.4 OTA update & with no option to downgrade, they lost root, custom TW ROMs, and almost everything. Now, they're waiting with Note 4 users for a root method to rejoin the party while Note 3 on 4.4.2 can be rooted using TowelRoot.
Which tool?
itspeat said:
When blocking/disabling packages, which is the one that stops OTA. I've used the debloat tool for lollipop but just want to ensure that I've blocked it since I don't see any packages titled specifically as "OTA"
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All of the debloat tools that I find require root, which are you using?
There's a script that someone wrote to disable Ota and debloat. It doesn't need root. Sacher around on here for it
So would it be a bad idea to update just using the software update in the phones settings menu? Or should I do it by running odin? What actual difference does this make? Will this cause me issues once we do have a root method for this device?
As of now it makes no difference.
Stupid question, but how do you turn off automatic OTA on lollipop?

Quadrooter

So apparently our phone is vulnerable to a newly founded exploit being dubbed "Quadrooter" that allows for privilege escalation. Do any of you think that this could lead to root on marshmallow if used right?
EDIT: Link to CNET article - http://www.cnet.com/news/quadrooter-security-flaws-said-to-affect-over-900-million-android-devices/
Saw this today. Curious to know as well. Not that this might be any use for me anymore as I'm still waiting to see if LG will fix my bootloop issue.
aarick said:
Saw this today. Curious to know as well. Not that this might be any use for me anymore as I'm still waiting to see if LG will fix my bootloop issue.
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That's unfortunate. I fear it may be any day for me. We're there any signs before it hit the hay?
I am curious how they claim to be able to gain root access on multiple phones running marshmallow. DM Verity in the kernel is supposed to stop a phone with modifications from voting, so I am not sure how it's supposed to work, unless it's only some form of temp root. Kind of corps of this will be the next 'towel root'. Probably not, but I could hope I guess.
I have the ATT model and would love rooted MM. Hopefully this vulnerability can be used to our benefit.
I hope my H815t could be rooted by that
I have H815T and it's rooted, bootloader is unlocked and running Genysis 4.3 with G5 theme.
But I found the four vulnerabilities in my phone too.
What to do now?
claro4u90 said:
I have H815T and it's rooted, bootloader is unlocked and running Genysis 4.3 with G5 theme.
But I found the four vulnerabilities in my phone too.
What to do now?
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The vulnerabilities are because your processor (Qualcomm Snapdragon). So, you can't do anything until LG implement arrangements in an update (OTA, KDZ).
lept_2014 said:
The vulnerabilities are because your processor (Qualcomm Snapdragon). So, you can't do anything until LG implement arrangements in an update (OTA, KDZ).
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Yes you are right.
But my device is rooted and unlocked and OTA updates are disabled. So how would a user like me gets his security patch or such kind of updates?
claro4u90 said:
Yes you are right.
But my device is rooted and unlocked and OTA updates are disabled. So how would a user like me gets his security patch or such kind of updates?
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You must flash a KDZ (for your G4 model) with LGUP. You'll lose root access, and OTA updates will be enabled. Or you can wait, and flash the KDZ with the fixes.
lept_2014 said:
You must flash a KDZ (for your G4 model) with LGUP. You'll lose root access, and OTA updates will be enabled. Or you can wait, and flash the KDZ with the fixes.
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Thanks for your help.
Actually I have a stock marshmellow rooted rom which I flashed it a day ago and OTA updates are enabled on that.
Another question, where do the updates store? On rom or some where in the recovery partition etc?
Why I'm asking this, I like Genysis rom so if I restore my device to Stock rooted 6.0 and get the air updates in september etc, will the updates remain on the device if I flash the rom(back to Gynesis)?
claro4u90 said:
Thanks for your help.
Actually I have a stock marshmellow rooted rom which I flashed it a day ago and OTA updates are enabled on that.
Another question, where do the updates store? On rom or some where in the recovery partition etc?
Why I'm asking this, I like Genysis rom so if I restore my device to Stock rooted 6.0 and get the air updates in september etc, will the updates remain on the device if I flash the rom(back to Gynesis)?
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You can't apply a official OTA with a rooted device without a error.
And the updates are in the firmware (aka ROM), so if you change de ROM, you will lose all updates.
What to do?
Install drweb antivirus for check apps before install.
This is the unic risk i found.
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Quadrooter affected
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3435585
Quadrooter affected
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This is not so relevan more than, they are promoting goglebley site.
Ah! Stay protected:
I found in Settings.apk that this app access internet, for ... for example here, when i connect to wifi or 3g, my lightningWall is not on time delay to impess certain connections, so slowly i will forbid internet in some another apps by force , this app begun deny connection because some chitty google domains are included by me on the etc/hosts . So, is only prevent this app access internet , for security, this may gain privileges
I rebuilded with Lucky Patcher with denied INTERNET.permission in manifest.
Rebuild your Settings.apk, because this may gain privileges.
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lept_2014 said:
You can't apply a official OTA with a rooted device without a error.
And the updates are in the firmware (aka ROM), so if you change de ROM, you will lose all updates.
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And will there be unofficial updates or such security patches for custom roms?
We have started a Q&A here, I hope many will get benefit from this conversation
Of course, mine is old xt687 , the motorola will never update anymore this, nicht paying!
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I hope it can be used to gain root on vs986 marshmallow
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claro4u90 said:
Thanks for your help.
Actually I have a stock marshmellow rooted rom which I flashed it a day ago and OTA updates are enabled on that.
Another question, where do the updates store? On rom or some where in the recovery partition etc?
Why I'm asking this, I like Genysis rom so if I restore my device to Stock rooted 6.0 and get the air updates in september etc, will the updates remain on the device if I flash the rom(back to Gynesis)?
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If you are talking about the update.zip, it should be in the cache partition.
Using RR build 20160808 on h815 with llama kernel r6.
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Really! I believe this app haves a fake scanner with a png image as result.
All images are the same CHIT to promote goglebley crappy.
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