qualcomm 2.0 vs Samsung adaptive fast charging - Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers

Whats thw difference betweem qualcomm 2.0 quick charging vs Samsung adaptive fast charging?
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My understanding is that they're the same thing? Samsung's adaptive fast charging takes advantage of Qualcomm's quick charge 2.0 technology... Even though the phone has the hardware to support quick charge 3.0....
I could be wrong but I'm like 95% sure I'm right from all the random forums I've read.

Us there a way to position the phone to charge fast mine takes forever. It charges faster wired on the wireless it takes 5 mins to gain a percent.
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my car charger supports Qualcomm 2.0 and i use it for Samsung fast charging, so my guess they are the same
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Charging time

Today i put my g2 on charge %1 to %100. Nearly less than 2 hours. Is it normal? I think it is too fast and harmfull
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Today i put my g2 on charge %1 to %100. Nearly less than 2 hours. Is it normal? I think it is too fast and harmfull
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Yes, it charges crazy fast. The phone is cold as ice while charging, I'm not sure how you concluded it's harmful.
It's fast because it uses high amps 1.8 to 2.1
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The charge is amazing fast, and the discharge is nice and slow!! I love that about my G2.
Does it charge fast only with the original charger or is it the same time with galaxy s4 charger too?
I didnt try i just charge orginal charger which is 1,5 A i have htc charger and it is 1 A i will try it.
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the galaxy s4 charger is 2A so maybe it will be faster
Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 is built in to the Snapdragon 800 chip.
From what I've gleaned on the net, even without a charger specifically designed for Quick Charge 1.0, the previous iteration of this technology built into the S3 for example, there is a reduction in charge time. So it might stand to reason that Quick Charge 2.0 would have an improvement in charge time even if the charger supplied isn't a Quick Charge 2.0 spec charger. The two systems, 1.0 and 2.0, are interchangeable compatible, just that a 1.0 device won't get the 2.0 chip benefit from a 2.0 charger. You get the idea.
Apparently 2.0 chargers will be available in early 2014.
So this is at least partially what is driving the fast charge times on the G2, AFAICT.

QuickCharge works fine with powerbanks

I have an Anker Astro 3 12000mah powerbank as well as Xiaomi 10400 & 16000mah. All seem to charge the S6 as fast as the stock Adaptive Fast Charger. I usually charge when I'm down to 40% and all these powerbanks when connected to the S6 show as cable charging. The time to hit 100% though is exactly the same as the fast charger.
So guys don't throw away your existing powerbanks and dole monies out for some unknown brands that claim to be QC2.0 compliant.
PS: I have a two year old Samsung 9000mah powerbank that released along with the S4. Will try if that QuickCharges the S6 tonight. The S6 is picky with the cables though. I get the QuickCharge only with good quality cables. I use an original Samsung cable that came with a spare 2amp charger and an Anker cable. Work perfect.
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Does it say Fast Charger connected on the statuus bar?
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Does it say Fast Charger connected on the statuus bar?
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No. As I mentioned it says Cable Charging. But the time taken to charge is the same as the stock charger. Fast.
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I've been using this 10,000mAh power bank from Aukey, which supports Quick Charge 2.0 and the S6 does display Fast Charging Connected. I just haven't compared charge time between this and the stock charger yet. All I can say is they're both blazing fast. According to this other thread, the stock charger has 5V and 9V outputs, just like any QC 2.0 charger, therefore, they should work the same. I'm not sure about non-QC2.0 compatible power banks though.

Quick Charging OnePlus 2 possible with Nexus 6P charger?

Hey everyone, The OPT charger is around 10W (5A x 2V) while the Nexus 6P charger is 25W. Both devices have the same Snapdragon 810 chipset and they both use USB Type-C. Is it possible to get the Quick Charge functionality from the 6P (0 to 100% in around 90 minutes) to the OnePlus 2?
Thanks in advance
No, op2 doesn't have quickcharge built in. You might break your battery.
Energy don't work that way.
Think of your opt charge circuit as if it is a water hose, battery is a little container, charger is the big container.
It doesn't matter how big is the charger container the hose will take the same time to fill the small container.
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fburgos said:
Energy don't work that way.
Think of your opt charge circuit as if it is a water hose, battery is a little container, charger is the big container.
It doesn't matter how big is the charger container the hose will take the same time to fill the small container.
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Couldn't have said it better myself
Quick charge is a built in feature which is not included in op2. So it's not possible to charge it that way.
I believe the snapdragon 810 supports quick charge, however, the OP2 designers chose not to implement it, probably due to the increase in cost associated with upgraded current handling for some parts, but that's a guess on my part.
There's usually no problem with using a larger capacity charger with your phone because they're almost always self regulating. However, it will probably not accelerate charging unless the device supports it.
No it doesn't support it.
My OP2 charges in 1hr50mins to full.. I am satisfied with it.
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Hey everyone, The OPT charger is around 10W (5A x 2V) while the Nexus 6P charger is 25W. Both devices have the same Snapdragon 810 chipset and they both use USB Type-C. Is it possible to get the Quick Charge functionality from the 6P (0 to 100% in around 90 minutes) to the OnePlus 2?
Thanks in advance
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The nexus devices don't quick charge, they however charge quickly (called fast charging) with the new type C connection via a 15w 5v/3a charger. It's a non proprietary open standard and not a Qualcomm certified type of deal. The question is legit, you could be able to get a quicker charge with the nexus charger.
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The nexus devices don't quick charge, they however charge quickly (called fast charging) with the new type C connection via a 15w 5v/3a charger. It's a non proprietary open standard and not a Qualcomm certified type of deal. The question is legit, you could be able to get a quicker charge with the nexus charger.
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Yes I know that they don't use Qualcomm Quick Charge but some fast charging that's possible because of USB Type C. So that's why I asked if the OnePlus 2 could also use the ''Fast Charging'' capability from the 6P
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Yes I know that they don't use Qualcomm Quick Charge but some fast charging that's possible because of USB Type C. So that's why I asked if the OnePlus 2 could also use the ''Fast Charging'' capability from the 6P
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Right, I'm supporting your question as it seems everyone else doesn't seem to understand that....
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Right, I'm supporting your question as it seems everyone else doesn't seem to understand that....
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Well maybe I should grab a 6P charger and test it
Quick charge/fast charge whatever you want to call it won't work, opt circuit/controller is designed for 1A current, it won't demand any more than that.
You can have a custom kernel that tells the controller to not "shutdown" with more than 1A but is your risk and probably won't speed up the charging process by much.
Opt charger is 2A and should be enough to test a kennel tweak, again changing just the charger won't work.
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I wonder if it is possible to some how forcefully enable quick charging somehow.
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Quick charge/fast charge whatever you want to call it won't work, opt circuit/controller is designed for 1A current, it won't demand any more than that.
You can have a custom kernel that tells the controller to not "shutdown" with more than 1A but is your risk and probably won't speed up the charging process by much.
Opt charger is 2A and should be enough to test a kennel tweak, again changing just the charger won't work.
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How is OPT circuit designed for 1A?? then why would they make a 2A charger, that makes no sense.
Fast charging on nexus devices is a capability of usb-c, not snapdragon quickcharge.
So I think we need to reevaluate this..
Somebody needs to test with a 3A nexus charger and run ampere.
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I might be wrong in something.
I used ampere to "measure" the current always tops at 1090mA but with screen on, which also drains juice from charger.
Any way you need a custom kernel like boeffla to change the mA to charge I remember it tops at 2200mA
But a 3A charger like nexus will only supply what the device is demanding (2200 mA)
Fast charging on nexus it's a feature of charger and charger circuit, remember to have a puppies a ***** (female dog) needs to mate with a dog not a cat. You might force different species they could mate but won't breed.
You need any race of dog to have puppies.
The same you need any brand of 5V/3A charger for a nexus and you will have fast charge.
Opt don't have fast charge won't harm to try but don't buy the charger just to test borrow someone's
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Opt supports 5v 2amp charging on screen off.
Quick charge (Qualcomm quick charge®) is achieved raising voltage and not amperage (up to 20 volts, in qc3) and should be both hardware-supported and software-enabled since is the phone that asks the charger for a specific power level (volts-amps couple).
The real question is: is qc hardware supported on opt, and, if yes, could it be software enabled in some way in a custom kernel or so?
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Hey everyone, The OPT charger is around 10W (5A x 2V) while the Nexus 6P charger is 25W. Both devices have the same Snapdragon 810 chipset and they both use USB Type-C. Is it possible to get the Quick Charge functionality from the 6P (0 to 100% in around 90 minutes) to the OnePlus 2?
Thanks in advance
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You might blast your USB port if you are overcharging more than 2A.
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You might blast your USB port if you are overcharging more than 2A.
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thanks God someone replied, it's a shame that this does not contribute to the discussion in any way
I found an article that says that you need Qualcomm PMI8994 Power Management IC and SMB1351 (as well as snap 810 SoC) to get quick charge working... I can find the first in many teardown but I can't find the second, any idea? Maybe it has been replaced by another component or is it missing at all?
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My OP2 charges in 1hr50mins to full.. I am satisfied with it.
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just 1hr 50 mins???.For me it is around 3 hrs to charge from 0 to 100%

super charger?

hey guys, there is a new rumor actually a photo that says that there is a new "super charger" that will charge your phone from 0-100% in less than 20 minutes....don't know if it's just a troll or true....what you think?
We'll find out tomorrow.
Seems like a no for that rumor, currently oppo has the best charger with its vooc thingamajiggy. Does 20watts and i think the battery is split into 4 sections so each section is charged at 5watts and at much lower temperatures.
Do we know yet which fast charging technology the S8 supports? Quick Charge 2.0, 3.0, 4.0, or USB Type C Power Delivery? Something else?
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it seems it uses the same charger as the S7...so quick charge 2.0...i am not mad...but they could of used 3.0....i am sure SD835 can get 4.0 but the EXYNOS can't....it's samsung fault
Qc3 isn't any quicker, still stuck at 18watts. They compared an s7 to a phone with quickcharge 3 and the s7 still charged faster.
is the fast charging between the S6 and S7 any different?
"Qualcomm® Quick Charge™ 4 is designed to deliver lightning-fast charging in devices featuring Snapdragon mobile platforms. In just 5 minutes of charging, you get 5 hours of talk time.* It is also Type-C compliant and offers compatibility across other Quick Charge accessories and mobile devices."
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/battery-life
freaking samsung better not remove qc4.0 like they removed qc3.0 from note7 .
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"Qualcomm® Quick Charge™ 4 is designed to deliver lightning-fast charging in devices featuring Snapdragon mobile platforms. In just 5 minutes of charging, you get 5 hours of talk time.* It is also Type-C compliant and offers compatibility across other Quick Charge accessories and mobile devices."
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freaking samsung better not remove qc4.0 like they removed qc3.0 from note7 .
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Gotta believe they would've made a big deal of it at the press conference if it indeed had this. Perhaps the Note 7 debacle has made them extra cautious with anything battery-related.
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I would imagine if the Exynos SoC can't rival QC4.0 on the Snapdragon then they will ensure the same experience for customers in all regions by limiting the Snapdragon charging speeds to meet Exynos, otherwise people will seek out the Snapdragon versions specifically.
I'm interested to know though as I have a USB charging hub at home with a QC2.0 port, might consider an upgrade to 3.0 if it's supported
yeah, they will keep QC 2.0 for both....
If Samsung is so worried about keeping playing field even amongst variants why don't we (U.S.) get 6 GB of RAM and 128 GB storage as reported for Chinese unit.
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Charging speed

To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Samsung Galaxy Note 10 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
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Can any1 tell me how much time he need to fully charge note10 (not plus). From 10-15% to 100% i need more than a hour and 20min with stock charger, and just 3min more with charger from s8. Friend fully charge n10+ in about hour with stock charger and he have 800mAh bigger battery.
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Can any1 tell me how much time he need to fully charge note10 (not plus). From 10-15% to 100% i need more than a hour and 20min with stock charger, and just 3min more with charger from s8. Friend fully charge n10+ in about hour with stock charger and he have 800mAh bigger battery.
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I confirm your conclusions. I have NOTE 10+ and the charging time is also about 1 hour. At the same time, my wife has a NOTE 10 model, and her phone charges in about 1 hour 20 minutes. This really looks a little strange because:
1. The Note 10+ battery has a capacity greater than Note 10.
2. Both phones have the same EP-TA800 charger!
It seems strange, but it is.
@iOr_s tnx for sharing. And yeah...and I'm pissed because of that! Bouth selling as fast charge capable but for note 10 that doesn't woark!!
Someone should tell this to samsung mobile division! I don't know on which address to write
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@iOr_s tnx for sharing. And yeah...and I'm pissed because of that! Bouth selling as fast charge capable but for note 10 that doesn't woark!!
Someone should tell this to samsung mobile division! I don't know on which address to write
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Note 10 has fast charging! Please go to Setting ... - Fast cable charging and unmark it. After that charging time will be changed for both models. In this case Note 10 charges in 3 hours instead of 1 hour 20 minutes. So Note 10 has fast charging mode as Samsung declared it.
Another thing is that fast charging is realized in Note 10 plus much more efficiently, include super fast charging of 45 watts.
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@iOr_s yeah it have, but not fast as note10+, that's the point! Note+ can utilize 25w charger that came in box, note10 not (about the same charging speed with old 15w and new 25w chargers).
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Ok, so with my new 45w USB C to C wall charger from 0 to 100 takes an hour, flat! no frills. no lies.
Galaxy Note 10+. 45watt Super Fast Wall Charger, directly from Samsung with the $150 credit. I would suggest getting a few of these to carry around with you wherever you go. Now you know how long it takes to go from 0 to 100.
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Ok, so with my new 45w USB C to C wall charger from 0 to 100 takes an hour, flat! no frills. no lies.
Galaxy Note 10+. 45watt Super Fast Wall Charger, directly from Samsung with the $150 credit. I would suggest getting a few of these to carry around with you wherever you go. Now you know how long it takes to go from 0 to 100.
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Yes, great, congrats!
But that cannot help our friend @Proday. Note 10 does not support 45W fast charging.
By the way, the charging time for Note 10 Plus using the EP-TA800 adapter is also about 1 hour.
And on the side, it is much easier to carry the compact EP-TA800 with you wherever you go, than 45W fast charger
@iOr_s yeah, that is eaven better if you (and my neighbor here) have same charging time with 25w as user with 45w [emoji849][emoji56]
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@iOr_s yeah, that is eaven better if you (and my neighbor here) have same charging time with 25w as user with 45w [emoji849][emoji56]
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In fact, there is a slight time difference. It is approximately 15 minutes ).
On the one hand, it makes up 25-30% (!!!) of the total charging time. But on the other hand, it's only about 15 minutes
And for me personally this is not so important. And for this reason I have not bought a 45W charger yet
Horrible battery life for the note 10 , need to charge the device twice a day, not acceptable
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Horrible battery life for the note 10 , need to charge the device twice a day, not acceptable
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what is your scenario of using ? youtube, games, phone calls etc
Hi, since we are talking abt charging, I have one on Wireless.
The included Note 10+ power adaptor (EP-TA800) cannot FAST Wireless Charge when connected to my 2 older Wireless charger stands (EP-NG930, EP-PG950) [only Standard, slow Wireless Charging]... BUT if I swap out the 25W adaptor with an older unit (EP-TA20UWE), I CAN Fast Wireless Charge with both above-said charger stands.
My question: Is this normal per Samsung's current support for only USB PD & dropping of AFC charging standard (read this somewhere but not fully across the technical implications of this)? i.e.- I will need a new wireless charging stand in order to FAST wireless charge with provided 25W adaptor?
Bit of a bummer if true since that's like Samsung abandoning our older accessories. Appreciate any inputs u might have. Tks.
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Hi, since we are talking abt charging, I have one on Wireless.
The included Note 10+ power adaptor (EP-TA800) cannot FAST Wireless Charge when connected to my 2 older Wireless charger stands (EP-NG930, EP-PG950) [only Standard, slow Wireless Charging]... BUT if I swap out the 25W adaptor with an older unit (EP-TA20UWE), I CAN Fast Wireless Charge with both above-said charger stands.
My question: Is this normal per Samsung's current support for only USB PD & dropping of AFC charging standard (read this somewhere but not fully across the technical implications of this)? i.e.- I will need a new wireless charging stand in order to FAST wireless charge with provided 25W adaptor?
Bit of a bummer if true since that's like Samsung abandoning our older accessories. Appreciate any inputs u might have. Tks.
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Got a response from Samsung today. They confirmed that the included 25W adapter will not enable Fast Wireless Charging on older Samsung stands for reasons associated with power & voltage regulation. That means if Fast Wireless charging is important to you, you'll have to pony up and get one of the new Samsung stands.
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Of course that you need to pay for new! But it is eaven worse when you pay for something that doesn't work (25w on note10)!
On which address you wrote to samsung @zhudm66
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Of course that you need to pay for new! But it is eaven worse when you pay for something that doesn't work (25w on note10)!
On which address you wrote to samsung @zhudm66
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Sorry to hear that! Which brings me to the point of being more transparent about adoption of new standards (and what legacy ones are dropped).. right? Fast Wireless charging on older stands not supported... okay, maybe not such a big deal but you'd think they'd be a little more upfront about it instead of giving us the big run around.
To answer yr Q- I contacted them via Live Chat on Samsung Members app, then they called me back.
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Got a response from Samsung today. They confirmed that the included 25W adapter will not enable Fast Wireless Charging on older Samsung stands for reasons associated with power & voltage regulation. That means if Fast Wireless charging is important to you, you'll have to pony up and get one of the new Samsung stands.
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I have 2 dual stands wireless chargers from Samsung. 1 is 10W and the other is 15 W. They BOTH show fast charging for me. They both came with their own power adaptors out of the box. The 10W comes with the adaptive fast charging, and the 15W came with the same 25W charger that the Note 7 was able use. Did you lose your adaptor?
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Charges my plus in one hr and 10 mins from 10 to full, and beats all my past devices.
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after updating to one ui 2.1 i have noticed my note10 plus take more time to charge then before this update (tried between 40%to 85%) but bettery time incteased from 4.3min per 1% to 4.8min...
anyone else with same situation
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after updating to one ui 2.1 i have noticed my note10 plus take more time to charge then before this update (tried between 40%to 85%) but bettery time incteased from 4.3min per 1% to 4.8min...
anyone else with same situation
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me too, and super fast charging indicator does not appear anymore. just showing as fast charging. now it takes about 1hour 15mins to full charge my phone. i used Ampere application and it showed that my phone is charging at maximum rate of 1700mA only. by right it should be getting around 2400mA++

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