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Ok, so i love Motorola as a company, despite the recent hate (which is not justified in my opinion), i love all their products and i think they are great. I owned a Moto G 1st gen and bought the Moto G 2nd gen right after the launch and loving it even more after Android L update, so i have a wish list for the next gen
If they want to dominate the mid range phone segment and make a killer smartphone i would recommend the next wish list, i don't know if it is possible for the price, so here it is:
Display: 5” - 5.5" full HD IPS 1080 x 1920 pixels
Processor: Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 615 octa-core chipset (MSM8939) 64-bit
GPU: Adreno 405
RAM: 2 GB A MUST!
Storage: 16GB, microSD card slot, up to 64GB
Camera: 8 Megapixel Rear Camera, 2MP Front Camera
Battery: 2700 mAh
Software: Android L or latest
Dual front facing speakers
And all the conectivity, GPS, microUSB 2.0, Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth etc.
For the same price! Or max 200$
What do you guys think? Is it possible?
You are pretty much describing the Moto X, but at the price of a Moto G.
I'd say 5-5,2", 720p screen, Snapdragon 410, LTE , 16GB ROM, 2GB RAM, camera stabilizer, microSD, 2700 mAh battery. So the same thing with a bit of an improvement in the processor, LTE, more RAM, more battery and stabilization for the camera; exactly what the Moto G 2nd Gen lacks of.
Just more RAM - 2 GB would be the best possible improvement. With the other specifications I am ok actually.
I only add more RAM and 64bits processor
And LTE By default for all models
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2GB Ram
Snapdragon 615
LTE
Adreno 405
2400 mAh battery
That would keep it competitive with newer mid-range phones coming out.
Keep the screen the same. Camera could use some improvement, but I don't want a bump in price, so I could do without that. I don't even mind 8GB internal since it has an SD slot.
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You are pretty much describing the Moto X, but at the price of a Moto G.
I'd say 5-5,2", 720p screen, Snapdragon 410, LTE , 16GB ROM, 2GB RAM, camera stabilizer, microSD, 2700 mAh battery. So the same thing with a bit of an improvement in the processor, LTE, more RAM, more battery and stabilization for the camera; exactly what the Moto G 2nd Gen lacks of.
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Moto x 2nd gen has a snapdragon 801 32-bit processor and a amoled display where are they the same? Please point the similarities here is the spec list of the X 2nd gen http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x_(2014)-6649.php
Well, I meant "a" Moto X. I just don't see it happening for 179-200$ and those specs are high-end, so if you wanted something similar you should be looking for a Moto X. It'd cost you, but you aren't getting this at that price.
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Well, I meant "a" Moto X. I just don't see it happening for 179-200$ and those specs are high-end, so if you wanted something similar you should be looking for a Moto X. It'd cost you, but you aren't getting this at that price.
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The price for those components will drop by the end of the year when the Moto G 2015 wil come out, look at this phones, and you will see it is possible Zenfone 2 http://www.androidauthority.com/asus-zenfone-2-hands-first-impressions-579187/ 200$ for the base model, ZTE Blade S6 $250 and you get Lollipop, Snapdragon 615, LTE, and a 13MP camera http://www.androidauthority.com/zte-blade-s6-price-specs-features-583086/
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Well, I meant "a" Moto X. I just don't see it happening for 179-200$ and those specs are high-end, so if you wanted something similar you should be looking for a Moto X. It'd cost you, but you aren't getting this at that price.
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Those really aren't high end specs in 2015, that's similar to what the next crop of already announced midrange phones is offering. Component are getting cheaper and the mid-range market is more competitive now than when the first Moto G came out.
An OLED FHD display would be nice, especially for the night mode so the smartphone can finally be used as a suitable nighstand alarm clock without that awful background light all the current smartphones are emitting... !!!
Other than the above:
64bit 4/8 core CPU
2GB of LPDDR4 RAM
16GB ROM
Gorilla Glass 4
Replaceable 3200 mAh Li-ion or Supercapacitor
8-12 Mp Camera with stabilization and depth sensor
2-5 Mp Front facing camera
5"-5.1" FHD OLED display
Better stereo front speakers
And maybe a little less plastic for the housing
My wishlist would be basically slightly upgraded Moto G LTE
4.5" screen
2Gb ram
Larger battery
Better camera
8GB ROM with microSD slot.
Wireless charging.
Sidenote, I'm not convinced that Moto G needs to over 5" screensize because one of it's strongest selling points aside from clean OS is that there are very few options in it's size group unless you go for used and/or older models. For example, Samsung's compact models are really underwhelming while Sony's offerings are very expensive, then you have random budget-brands which I wouldn't touch even with a 10-foot pole. LG has couple models that are pretty close, but display resolution is disappointing.
if thats what the 2015 moto g is going to have, im leaving the flagship, sorry, this is my choice
As per the specs u want be ready to pay heavily as u have described a Moto gen X 2
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And by considering the specs suggested by some members i think it will beat the price of Nexus 6 or Moto X 2 . lol
Display
- 5.4 Inch
- AMOLED Capacitive Touchscreen, 16M
- 1440 x 2560, 543.93 Pixels Per Inch
- Corning Gorilla Glass 4
Hardware
- Qualcomm Snapdragon 810
- Quad-core 2.7 GHz Krait 450
- Adreno 430
Battery
- 2700 mAh
- Quick Charge 2.0
- Non Removable
Memory
- 32/64 GB On Board
- 2.5 GB Ram
Camera
- 16 MP Primary (2988 x 5312)
- 4 MP Secondary, Wide Angle Self Portrait
- 4k Video Recording
- Slow Motion Video Recording
- Dual Ring Flash
- OIS, Auto Focus
Speakers
- Dual Front Facing Speakers
Body
- Motorola Dimple / Fingerprint Scanner
- 9.0 mm
- Aluminum Frame
Additonals
- Gold Aluminum Frame (Option)
- More Custom Backings
- Completely Customizable Backing
- Improvement in Low-light Picture Quality
- Better Image Processing
- More Features In Moto Suite
Price
- $599 Off Contract
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I plan on getting it. However, I'm very happy with my 2014 X and will wait till the price drops a bit.
Doubt there will be a fingerprint scanner...Moto's head guy isn't a fan of it. I'll be selling my 2014 for the 2015
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Dont think they'll go QuadHD. That would drive prices up and moto found a nice market for now. They're not that stablished yet. Also I think the 16GB is gone and no MSD, that would "kill" moto design for the X. Unless moto comes up with a trully insane new phone, I'll remain on my 2014. This thing is still a beast
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With that specs + the amazing smothness of the 2nd gen it will be awesome, hope they'll have aluminum back at moto maker
Furieuxariel2 said:
With that specs + the amazing smothness of the 2nd gen it will be awesome, hope they'll have aluminum back at moto maker
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Yes Absolutely
matt99017d said:
I plan on getting it. However, I'm very happy with my 2014 X and will wait till the price drops a bit.
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Me Too, I Plan On Waiting Until Christmas OF This Year Maybe They'll Have A Holiday Sell
These types of threads are so stupid
I wish moto change amoled to IPS
If the screen goes any bigger than 5.2in, I definitely won't be getting it.
rjayflo said:
Doubt there will be a fingerprint scanner...Moto's head guy isn't a fan of it. I'll be selling my 2014 for the 2015
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The n6 was supposed to have a fingerprint scanner but it was ditched. So, it is possible that the next Moto X will have it
I don't like the screen size. 5.2 inches max. I'll definitely be passing this one because 810 processor
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Of course I'm talking about the Moto x 3rd Gen.I honestly can't wait. I feel like a little kid waiting to open Christmas presents. I seen the leaked render of this device just a little bit ago, It looks great. The picture was pixelated and blurry but you could see the jest of it. The camera, flash and dimple are all lined up in this rounded-rectangle strip on metal on the back. It looks very premium, the front of the phone just simply looks like a streamlined flat AMOLED panel with 2 front facing speakers (at least that's what is seems to be). I guarantee all Moto users are going to be proud of this device. like come 'on 4GB on RAM! and look at that chipset and pixel density. This is going to be a gift from the higher up.
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Rumored specs:
Display
Type: AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size: 5.2 inches
Resolution: 1440 x 2560 pixels (~565 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch: Yes
Protection: Corning Gorilla Glass 3
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Platform
OS: Android OS, v5.1.1 (Lollipop)
Chipset: Qualcomm MSM8992 Snapdragon 808
CPU: Dual-core 1.8 GHz Cortex-A57 & quad-core 1.44 GHz Cortex-A53
GPU: Adreno 418
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Memory
Card slot: No
Internal: 32/64 GB, 4 GB RAM
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Camera
Primary: 16 MP, 5312 x 2988 pixels, autofocus, optical image stabilization, dual-LED flash
Features: Geo-tagging, touch focus, face detection, panorama, HDR
Video: [email protected], [email protected], HDR
Secondary: 5 MP, 1080p
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Sound
Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
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Comms
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, DLNA, hotspot
Bluetooth: v4.1, A2DP, EDR, LE
GPS: Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS
NFC: Yes
Radio: No
USB: micro USB v2.0, USB Host
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Features
Sensors: Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer, temperature
Messaging: SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Email, IM
Browser: HTML5
Java: No
- Fast battery charging: 60% in 30 min (Quick Charge 2.0)
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- MP3/AAC+/WAV/WMA player
- MP4/H.264/WMV player
- Photo/video editor
- Document viewer
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Battery
Non-removable Li-Ion 3280 mAh battery
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I wonder why isnt anyone else excited for this...i know i am...!!! Cant wait... goodbye s6! Its either the 3rd gen moto or nexus 5 2nd gen
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Not that much. I'm waiting for next nexus instead like every year. I hope they lower the size of display.
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Not that much. I'm waiting for next nexus instead like every year. I hope they lower the size of display.
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Same. I am more intrigued with the Nexus because of Google I/O:
1. I am certain a fingerprint scanner will be included
2. USB type C. Now that is something to be happy about
3. OIS and all that camera stuff will be in the next Nexus
4. Wireless charging & fast charging. Both of best worlds
5. Having the latest Android OS version. Android M is going to be awesome, I want it. I will consider buying a Nexus this year if rumors of an LG one is correct (or Huawei), depending on price
6. A lot of the specs will be the same as the first post
not enough of an upgrade to get me to buy day one. maybe after the price drop.
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Same. I am more intrigued with the Nexus because of Google I/O:
1. I am certain a fingerprint scanner will be included
2. USB type C. Now that is something to be happy about
3. OIS and all that camera stuff will be in the next Nexus
4. Wireless charging & fast charging. Both of best worlds
5. Having the latest Android OS version. Android M is going to be awesome, I want it. I will consider buying a Nexus this year if rumors of an LG one is correct (or Huawei), depending on price
6. A lot of the specs will be the same as the first post
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Yes, I'm also interested in what Nexus is going to put out this year. I know that's its going to have an outstanding spec sheet, It always does. That fingerprint scanner would be nice, unfortunely i don't think the new Moto X will have it but you never know. It's more than likely that the new Moto X will be guaranteed updates after it's intial release. Hopefully Motorola improves the camera, OIS would be great and they need to work on getting consietent high quality photos. Image processing needs to be improved also. I tryed the Nexus 6 for about a month and it was perfectly fine in preformance but it's too large. I think the next Nexus smartphone should have a 5.5 inch display at most. Wireless charging & fast charging im sure will be in the new Moto X. LG or Huawei huh? Both are great cmpanies. LG with its G4 and Huawei with its P8. My vote is on Huawei. I also seen the new Moto G rumored specs. 2GB of RAM, larger battery, higher MP count, 16GB base model, same 5 inch screen but in 1080p this time around, Better chipset and more. It amazes me how fast technology is evolving, if the new Moto G would of came out last year it could sure contend with some flagship smartphones.
The only thing that stands out for me is the 1080p video capture at 120fps (slow mo). Not really enough for me to want the new Moto X. I'll most likely wait for the price to be dropped before biting the bullet.
In regards to the new Nexus, I'll never buy a Nexus phone again after owning the Nexus 4 and 5 - awfully bad call quality issues and a lack of acknowledgement from Google (poor support). Nexus 6 was just stupid with it's almost 6" display lol. Probably get laughed at trying to hold that thing against my ear!! Anyway I don't think I can do without Moto Voice, it's too good!
bunglemx said:
Not that much. I'm waiting for next nexus instead like every year. I hope they lower the size of display.
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Yeah, me too. The only reason I jumped to Moto X 2014 is because of Nexus 6 size. Previously I've always used the Nexus line.
Wutang200 said:
The only thing that stands out for me is the 1080p video capture at 120fps (slow mo). Not really enough for me to want the new Moto X. I'll most likely wait for the price to be dropped before biting the bullet.
In regards to the new Nexus, I'll never buy a Nexus phone again after owning the Nexus 4 and 5 - awfully bad call quality issues and a lack of acknowledgement from Google (poor support). Nexus 6 was just stupid with it's almost 6" display lol. Probably get laughed at trying to hold that thing against my ear!! Anyway I don't think I can do without Moto Voice, it's too good!
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Yeah, the 1080p 120fps slow mo will be great im sure of it. The specs that didn't exaclty stand out but were a little unexpected were the battery life & the RAM. I wasn't expeting such a leep in battery capacity to go from 2300 to 3280 mAh is awesome, that almost a 1000 mAh gain. I was expecting something in the ballpark between 2600-2900 mAh which is still good depending on the display and hardware. I was expecting 3GB of RAM for some reason. Maybe it's becuase the Moto X has always seemed to be 1GB of RAM lower than other flagships that came out during the same time. I guess Motorola is stepping up. As far as the expected changes and improvements i knew that Motorola would improve: the camera, chipset and display resolution. It's kinda unfortunate that the new Moto X will most likely not have expandable storage but at least the got rid of the 16GB variant. I am also gonna wait for a price drop, maybe around christmas or so and yes Moto Voice is beyond helpful, i love it. I think that's the dominant reason why i would choose the Moto X 2014 over the Nexus 6, well that and size of course.
I really hope that the MotoX 3rd Gen will have two models, one as large as the Nexus 6 or MotoX Pro (China). I really loved the MotoX and Nexus 6 and own both, but the Nexus 6 without Moto Display is disappointing. I've considered buying one from China, but I don't know if Google services can be installed afterwards. Anyhow, Motorola is about to grace us with a new device so its smarter to wait it out.
If any if these rumors are true, I'll be a happy camper.
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I wasn't expeting such a leep in battery capacity to go from 2300 to 3280 mAh is awesome, that almost a 1000 mAh gain. I was expecting something in the ballpark between 2600-2900 mAh which is still good depending on the display and hardware. I was expecting 3GB of RAM for some reason. Maybe it's becuase the Moto X has always seemed to be 1GB of RAM lower than other flagships that came out during the same time. I guess Motorola is stepping up.
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Oh I forgot about the bigger battery. That'll be my other reason to want to switch but not straight away, probably when the price drops.
I don't really care about 4GB RAM at all. I think 2GB is more than enough for what most people would do on a smartphone. I've never ever felt like the RAM capacity is slowing me down or anything.
If anyone's interested, Amazon is apparently offering the Moto X 2014 for $199 new right now.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00MW...sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165&keywords=Moto+x+2014
I would argue that the X right now is still a better deal than the 2015 G, given that it has the faster (though older) processor, slightly older but far less noisy camera and Moto Voice, as well as a metal frame. Just be sure that Android updates beyond Marshmallow aren't top priority.
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If anyone's interested, Amazon is apparently offering the Moto X 2014 for $199 new right now.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00MW...sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165&keywords=Moto+x+2014
I would argue that the X right now is still a better deal than the 2015 G, given that it has the faster (though older) processor, slightly older but far less noisy camera and Moto Voice, as well as a metal frame. Just be sure that Android updates beyond Marshmallow aren't top priority.
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I just saw it today... do you think is a good upgrade over a Nexus 5? Or should I wait for something better?
blanco2701 said:
I just saw it today... do you think is a good upgrade over a Nexus 5? Or should I wait for something better?
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If you're upgrading from the Nexus 5, I'd advise you actually wait for something better, or spend a bit more and get the 5X. You're getting a similar screen (same res, roughly same size, but now AMOLED), a slightly more powerful chip (but that's honestly splitting hairs) and a just as inconsistent camera. The only real upgrades here are the build and slightly newer stuff inside, and unless that's worth $199 to you, then wait.
This is more for people who are upgrading from anything older than 2013 (flagship) or 2014 (midrange), where the difference is going to jump. But from a nexus 5 it's not going to be significant enough in my opinion.
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If anyone's interested, Amazon is apparently offering the Moto X 2014 for $199 new right now.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00MW...sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165&keywords=Moto+x+2014
I would argue that the X right now is still a better deal than the 2015 G, given that it has the faster (though older) processor, slightly older but far less noisy camera and Moto Voice, as well as a metal frame. Just be sure that Android updates beyond Marshmallow aren't top priority.
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Per Amazon it is running 5.0:
Product Dimensions: Height: 140.8mm (5.54 inches) Width: 72.4mm (2.85 inches) Curve: 3.8-9.9mm (0.15-0.39 inches)
Operating System: Android 5.0 Lollipop
Display: 5.2" AMOLED, 1080p FULL HD 1920x1080, 423 ppi, Corning Gorilla Glass 3
Weight: 144 grams (5.08 ounces)
Battery: 2300 mAh Mixed usage up to 24 hours
Processor: Motorola Mobile Computing System including 2.5GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 with quad-core CPU (MSM 8974-AC), Adreno 330 @ 578 MHz GPU, Natural Language Processor, Contextual Computing Processor
Memory: 2GB
Camera: Rear: 13MP F2.25 Front: 2MP (1080p)
Connectivity: Micro USB, 3.5mm headset jack
Bluetooth Technology: Bluetooth version 4.0 LE
SIM Card: Nano-SIM
Networks: GSM/GPRS/EDGE, UMTS/HSPA+, 4G LTE
It also doesn't state model but one of the user questions is answered as it being XT1095.
If it is on 5.0 one should be able to root via Mofo and unlock bootloader via Sunshine.
I agree that this phone would be a better deal than the 2015 G.
My resale value! :/
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Just got this amazon deal... Its a XT1095 loaded with 4.4.4
Actually, from what I've read so far, the 5X camera is actually pretty good it seems. So I agree. Spend a little more and get the 5X. Plus the big advantage... Updates.
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According to latest leaks from certification sites the moto g6+ is supposed to feature:
1. SD 630
2. 4GB - 32 GB, 6GB - 64GB
3. 12 MP f/1.7 + 5 MP f/1.9 - rear camera
4. 16 MP f/1.9 F Front camera
5. IP67, NFC
6. 5.9" 18:9 full hd+
So why Moto X4 didn't get a wider (f1.7) aperture primary lens, although being a pricey phone?
It feels bad that a relatively cheaper g6+ would take better low light shots
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According to latest leaks from certification sites the moto g6+ is supposed to feature:
1. SD 630
2. 4GB - 32 GB, 6GB - 64GB
3. 12 MP f/1.7 + 5 MP f/1.9 - rear camera
4. 16 MP f/1.9 F Front camera
5. IP67, NFC
6. 5.9" 18:9 full hd+
So why Moto X4 didn't get a wider (f1.7) aperture primary lens, although being a pricey phone?
It feels bad that a relatively cheaper g6+ would take better low light shots
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even g5+ had f1.7. and a better imx362 sensor. :laugh:
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even g5+ had f1.7. and a better imx362 sensor. :laugh:
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That's what I'm trying to know, why are lower priced g series phones have better camera?
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That's what I'm trying to know, why are lower priced g series phones have better camera?
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because motorola management is really stupid. it's not just hardware, even the software side has very stupid decisions. like 1080p60 on g5+ uses 4k stream, which is really sharp and high quality compared to what their other phones use.
it's stupid, that's all i can say.
Actually aperture is just a small part in this overall picture. I have both X4 and Z2 Play (which has 1.7 aperture) and you know what ?
The pictures I like most come either from X4 with Google Camera mod, or - when we are at Z2 Play - from Hasselblad Moto Mod which has 3.5 aperture.
OIS is what does best job.
Well I think the only thing I would've liked is 6GB of RAM right out of the gate but that would've hurt the Z2 Play sales for sure.
Regarding the camera you're not taking into account one thing: the Moto X4 sensor has 1.4 micron pixels in the sensor, which cannot be said for the G5+. So the 0.3 aperture you're losing you gain it back with bigger pixels. Also we're still talking about mobile phones camera so results will ALWAYS be mediocre in low light. In low light photos from a 2018 200$ Honor/Huawei phone are almost indistinguishable from photos taken with the Galaxy S9. Luckly tech is getting better and cheaper so don't be salty about a number on a spec sheet.
big brands are always overpriced and lag behind brands like huawei and xiaomi especially.
they devise market schemes so people would replace their phones more quickly. and the same or better phoneparts are now cheaper for manufacturers than 6months ago.
the only thing i really hate about the moto x4 is no treble. meaning more bugs and less diversity in 3rd party roms.
Most of the dialogue on the thread so far is about camera differences vs. other phones. So far, so good.
I am considering g6 vs. x4 as my next daily driver, either with Project Fi or directly with T-Mobile (my current provider). From the Moto line, Fi requires either G6, x4, or AndroidOne x4.
Apart from the camera and the purchase price, what other reasons would you consider to favor g6 or x4, especially with Project Fi?
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moto x4 has better image quality in certain aspects just look at the comparison.
https://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=9001&idPhone2=8634
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moto x4 has better image quality in certain aspects just look at the comparison.
https://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=9001&idPhone2=8634
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Yeah certainly X4 is ahead in most of the areas