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Comparing Lollipop vs Kitkat

Give me your thoughts about your experience with Lollipop and KitKat.
What did you liked the best and why?
Which felt for you the most fluid?
Personally I've still questions about the fluidness on LP comparing to KK.

Anyone who thinks KK is smoother, snappier?
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You know, why don't you figure out what you like best rather than ask a bunch of random people.
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I find jelly bean to be more similar to lollipop than kitkat. In terms of battery life and snappiness.
Kitkat was like windows vista. A non refined stepping stone.
Thanks to devs it became usable at some point but lollipop and jellybean are both fantastic out of the box.

I think KK does feel a bit snappier in some parts of the UI, but the overall smoothness and logical flow in the user experience is miles ahead in LP (and the new design plays a key role)
After months of LP I tried rolling back to KK two days ago just to see how it would go and, well, I reflashed LP like 24 hrs later. It may not feel like a great deal when you first boot it but after some months and this episode I can say that the overall experience is far superior except for one thing: we want the feckin LED to blink in priority/none!
Techie wise, performance is superior to 4.x in pretty much every aspect and battery life isn't going to let you down, especially if you resort to the new Battery Saver

lollipop is definitely faster

Should I upgrade to Android M?

I'm asking this question because I want input from users who did upgrade and I'm not sure if I need the upgrade or not.
I'm currently going by the logic: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." I'm quite happy with how Android L with the stock Kernel works on my device and after looking at the features that Google advertises for M I discovered that I can live without most of them.
I'm mostly interested in the new battery management system, app permissions, overall performance improvements in apps and general usage and some misc things like the new copy/paste thingy.
So let's say that of all the above, I'm mostly interested in the new battery management system. How well does it in you experience work? How much more usage do you get out of your phone? Do the new Doze and App Standby features really work as well as Google advertises them?
Also how stable is Android M on the Nexus 4? This is the main thing that is keeping me from upgrading. I would rather stay on stock then get a few new features that may or may not work well or even worse, get a phone that crashes every 5 minutes.
I'm currently looking to use the Pure Nexus Project ROM (because I want the pure Google experience) and the TAURUS Kernel (heard a lot of good things about this Kernel and it works well with the ROM I've chosen by the reports of some users).
So what do think? Is it worth it to upgrade to M or should I wait for the next major Android version?
Thank you for reading.

I have been using One Of A Kind ROM (OCT 31, Build) and it has been rock solid for me. My phone's battery definitely lasts longer than stock Lollipop ROM. We are talking a couple of hours extra. The Doze feature works well, there is very little battery drain on standby. You will see that from battery stats. You will be waiting for a while until next iteration of Android. As you know Google has stopped supporting Nexus 4, it will be at least few weeks to a month before we get anything going for our beloved Nexus 4. Even then, the stability won't be guaranteed.
I think there are a few stable ROMs out there. Back up everything and give it a try. Worst case scenario, you go back to what you had.
I tried M, and I am not going back to Lollipop.

Yes, you should. Doze makes a difference for me, and the permission stuff is always useful to have. If you find yourself confortable with stock L, then you should flash "stock M", which is, in my opinion: Fake Nexus ROM.
I had same doubts one month ago, and I tried with a few ROMs out here, searching for stability, battery life, without compromising performance. I stopped on the ROM I linked you, try it!

Thank you both for your input.
I have decided to not upgrade for the time being.

It does have noticeable improvements, the system is smoother, battery life is longer (you should probably install Grennify to further improve the new Doze mode and App Standby functionalities),
and it comes with app permission control.
With regard to stablization, I have been using the PureNexusProject rom and the TAURUS kernel for nearly a month, no reboot no crash, no bizarre behaviors, everything seems fine and I really enjoy it.
I personally recommand you to try it, anyway it's the new Android!

I'm loving android M, Doze is really working to me!
So I think you should give it a try.

LORD MJ said:
Thank you both for your input.
I have decided to not upgrade for the time being.
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Why?

TheArt. said:
Why?
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For a number or reasons. It's mostly that I'm happy how things are working right now and I don't have time to upgrade. Also, I don't have enough space to fully backup my apps.

Android 6.0 MM Stock - User Experience

Hi all, anyone here flash official MM to their device yet? I'm wondering about user experience. I read a thread on reddit and the top comment has me worried.
I'll copy and paste the comment here:
I'm on the beta and apart from the better app switch window, you're literally missing out on nothing. MM + EMUI 4 is glitchy and slow a lot of the time. It's a pity, really.
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So, do other beta testers feel the same way? Let's talk about this...

JT-on said:
Hi all, anyone here flash official MM to their device yet? I'm wondering about user experience. I read a thread on reddit and the top comment has me worried.
I'll copy and paste the comment here:
So, do other beta testers feel the same way? Let's talk about this...
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Hello, I am a beta tester for Honor 5x Android 6.0+EMUI 4.0 for L22 (India) variant. It has been around 2 months I am using the beta versions (with different updates with bug fixes), and current versions seems stable. Although there has been a problem of excessive RAM consumption, the phone is pretty stable. We have raised bug for this and Honor dev team is working on the fix. Don't worry, we have rejected 3 requests from Honor in their beta survey to make sure buggy software is not released to the public.
The user experience is better than Android 5.1 + EMUI 3. The UI is improved and smoother than previous version. We have raised requests for new features like OTG support and more camera functions, and hoping that we will get all of those sooner. Keep in mind that by comparing EMUI 4.0 to stock Android will disappoint you as no customized UI matches stock one in the performance aspect.
I am happy with the current release as it is much more stable that earlier ones and still waiting for another update with rest of the bug fixes and requirements incorporated.
If you like stock, you may move to CM13 and other ROMs. Personally I did not try CM yet as there is not fingerprint support. Yes in just 4 months, I am damn addicted to fingerprint and I don't want to try a ROM without FP support. CM developers are damn good and they are working on the FP issue and we will have the resolution sooner.
Finally, whether to go with beta release, or wait for it to release to public or going for CM or CM based ROMs remains your choice. I enrolled to beta testing so that my fellow friends using Honor 5X will have a bug free stable stock software. I might move to CM when the beta testing is over

pank.dhnd said:
Hello, I am a beta tester for Honor 5x Android 6.0+EMUI 4.0 for L22 (India) variant. It has been around 2 months I am using the beta versions (with different updates with bug fixes), and current versions seems stable. Although there has been a problem of excessive RAM consumption, the phone is pretty stable. We have raised bug for this and Honor dev team is working on the fix. Don't worry, we have rejected 3 requests from Honor in their beta survey to make sure buggy software is not released to the public.
The user experience is better than Android 5.1 + EMUI 3. The UI is improved and smoother than previous version. We have raised requests for new features like OTG support and more camera functions, and hoping that we will get all of those sooner. Keep in mind that by comparing EMUI 4.0 to stock Android will disappoint you as no customized UI matches stock one in the performance aspect.
I am happy with the current release as it is much more stable that earlier ones and still waiting for another update with rest of the bug fixes and requirements incorporated.
If you like stock, you may move to CM13 and other ROMs. Personally I did not try CM yet as there is not fingerprint support. Yes in just 4 months, I am damn addicted to fingerprint and I don't want to try a ROM without FP support. CM developers are damn good and they are working on the FP issue and we will have the resolution sooner.
Finally, whether to go with beta release, or wait for it to release to public or going for CM or CM based ROMs remains your choice. A enrolled to beta testing so that my fellow friends using Honor 5X will have a bug free stable stock software. I might move to CM when the beta testing is over
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Same as what you'd say, Release is consuming a lot of RAM, Battery as well Data Comsumption Monitor is having two stages which is makin me taking two step enrollment to save data.
There i found a Bug/Error but unable to report with the team Dev where on Professional camera - No sooner when i ue Flash Light/Torch and immediately open Pro Camera to capture moments it says Close Torch App - Unable to Open Camera App.

currently running marshmallow (RC VERSION) on L22.
there are a lot of changes
1.the notification icons are now colored
2.recent apps are better now
3.audio output via 3.5mm jack has improved.
3.view modes is introduced(similar to dpi changing)
4.incoming call ui is full screen.
5.revamped settings,phone,messaging(white color with dark notification icons)
and all other marshmallow goodies like permission manger,detailed app info etc
on the bad side...
ui buggy and consumes hell lot of ram.
and lags while mutitasking.
hope all this gets improved in the stable release

How is battery?

Demian3112 said:
How is battery?
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Battery looks "OK" in current beta version, same as that of Lollipop.

pank.dhnd said:
Battery looks "OK" in current beta version, same as that of Lollipop.
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Great! What causes the long loading time on apps? Is it Emui self or what?

Demian3112 said:
Great! What causes the long loading time on apps? Is it Emui self or what?
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Looks like EMUI, along with the bug causing excessive RAM consumption.
But with latest build, apps are loading quite faster than earlier, I am not sure which one did you try.

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Battery looks good but not as custom ROM !
you get around 0520 Hrs of SOT ( Screen on time) on WiFi.
0340 Hrs of SOT ( Screen on time) on using Internet Data.
@pank.dhd
i'm currently on KIW-L22C675B130 this is clean RAM swallower leaves back only 600Mb is this what build are you on ?

kartrikpal said:
Battery looks good but not as custom ROM !
you get around 0520 Hrs of SOT ( Screen on time) on WiFi.
0340 Hrs of SOT ( Screen on time) on using Internet Data.
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So it should be better compared to Emui 3.1?

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So it should be better compared to Emui 3.1?
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Not that much as you expect, cause this Build of EMUI where it shows up more battery heating issues when Data Background left on nuit this was not issue on EMUI 3.1

Whats Your Current favourite Rom?

Whats Your Current favourite Rom?
Why is it favourite?
And Any bug that you aware of....
I Tried few rom and there is always some issue so and i was wondering which rom does people use the most so i can try it.
Thanks you in advance for replying............
Currently im Using RR with EX kernel and camera is having some trouble (random reboot while viewing image):silly:

the screw rom is fast and smooth plus have too dozens customization options but sadly just in Marshmallow and haven't any update on the nougat.
another good one is ant room. special sound driver of this is good
but I wish this device have some rom like Viper rom of Venom group in htc devices specially in M8 is very good
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Cortex ROM. Brings the entire pixel experience to the 6p, and runs perfectly without a single issue from my usage.

Stock 7.1.1 Rooted
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Aicp rom

Chevy's 7.1.1... After that, all of them! Happy Flashing

Azathoth06 said:
the screw rom is fast and smooth plus have too dozen s customization options but sadly just in Marshmallow and haven't any update on the nougat.
another good one is ant room. special sound driver of this is good
but I wish this device have some rom like Viper rom of Venom group in htc devices specially in M8 is very good
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Screw'd Android does have a nougat based rom (7.0), check out their Google + page. It runs awesome!!

I am surprised that u guys haven't used uberstock..
It's the fastest a rom on Android can be.. Super smooth and fast

Nitrogen OS has been my bread and butter for a couple months now.

One of my favorite Roms has to be Android Ice Cold Project.
It has so many features that you can mess around with to customize the experience the way you want it.
Probably the only downside to this Rom is that it drains battery much faster than Roms with less features, so if you want features but don't mind losing battery life, then this Rom is for you.
Another Rom I can recommend is jgcaap's custom CM13 builds.
It has a little more features than stock CyanogenMod 13 has but it saves a ton more battery life than AICP.
I've been using this Rom for quite a while now and I've had no problems with it so far.
Hope I've assisted you in some way
Have a great day!

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Want to update but cannot make a decission

I've been browsing most of the current builds in the forum but it's been harsh to make a decision on which to take nowadays. Android Q builds seems to be unstable with some things not functioning, and Android P like Pixel Experience have been deprecated with no additional security patches in the past 4 or 5 months.
So far, the only build that seems to keep updated is LOS 16 with Android PIE and I understand that is the best option to get best from both worlds: latest security patches + fully functional ROM without glitches or hardware issues.
Which is your experience? Anything else that I shall consider?

MiSSigNNo said:
I've been browsing most of the current builds in the forum but it's been harsh to make a decision on which to take nowadays. Android Q builds seems to be unstable with some things not functioning, and Android P like Pixel Experience have been deprecated with no additional security patches in the past 4 or 5 months.
So far, the only build that seems to keep updated is LOS 16 with Android PIE and I understand that is the best option to get best from both worlds: latest security patches + fully functional ROM without glitches or hardware issues.
Which is your experience? Anything else that I shall consider?
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Try AOSPExtented ROM by _undead
Currently I am also using the same ROM
It really good with good battery life and smooth performance
Also it is the only Android Q rom with volte working

aggtanishq1 said:
Try AOSPExtented ROM by _undead
Currently I am also using the same ROM
It really good with good battery life and smooth performance
Also it is the only Android Q rom with volte working
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I did not find time to update, so now, after they released 7.1 I think I'm going to stick to AOSP Extended with Android 10. Looks really awesome