My battery life is almost the same as it was back on CM13. My phone is rooted and running xposed V81. I clean flashed 3.0.0 using the modified TWRP. I'm only getting around 2 1/2 hours of SOT and ~10 hours total usage.
same here
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Take a look at BetterBatteryStats and post a log here later.
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Take a look at BetterBatteryStats and post a log here later.
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Will do at the end of today.
Hi,
I have been facing similar issues, I have been using my OP2 for the last 2 months and has continuously got an avg. Of 3.5 hours SOT even when I am connected to WiFi throughout the day.
I rooted my phone and greenfied FB, Messenger and few other apps, used POWER Nap, yet I can't get more than 3.5 hours at all.
This is the link to BBS logs for 27th Mar and 6th April
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Hi,
I have been facing similar issues, I have been using my OP2 for the last 2 months and has continuously got an avg. Of 3.5 hours SOT even when I am connected to WiFi throughout the day.
I rooted my phone and greenfied FB, Messenger and few other apps, used POWER Nap, yet I can't get more than 3.5 hours at all.
This is the link to BBS logs for 27th Mar and 6th April
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In my experience stuff like Greenify and Power Nap do more harm than good. For Facebook i would use Facebook Lite or the mobile website.
To your logs: i don't know what app you were using exactly but in both logs you have your CPU at highest frequenzy for over an hour. If you are using an App which needs the CPU to run on its highest speed it sure is using a lot of Battery. I don't see anything abnormal in your logs. Maybe head over to the BBS discussion thread and show your logs there.
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In my experience stuff like Greenify and Power Nap do more harm than good. For Facebook i would use Facebook Lite or the mobile website.
To your logs: i don't know what app you were using exactly but in both logs you have your CPU at highest frequenzy for over an hour. If you are using an App which needs the CPU to run on its highest speed it sure is using a lot of Battery. I don't see anything abnormal in your logs. Maybe head over to the BBS discussion thread and show your logs there.
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The best battery life I got so far is to run on STOCK. 4.5-5 SOT on LTE only (surely longer if on WiFi)
with CM13, I get about 3.5-4h SOT (standby drain very fast).
With xposed, amplify, greenify, power nap, various kernels (AK, boeffla) all didn't significantly improve anything at all. The placebo effect is really strong.
Same here. OSS 2.2.1 was way better. I installed new hydrogen os MM and I have best battery than OSS 2.2.1, for now, I have to do more test but it's looking amazing.
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OOS 3 has been the best for me in terms of battery. With moderate usage and sync on I frequently get over 5 hours sot over 3 days of use vs 1.5 days on 2.2.1. Doze is fantastic and I barely lose 2% a night.
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Edit: I found that turning WiFi on and off causes a wake lock each time of around 2 minutes as Google services try to look for a data source
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OOS 3 has been the best for me in terms of battery. With moderate usage and sync on I frequently get over 5 hours sot over 3 days of use vs 1.5 days on 2.2.1. Doze is fantastic and I barely lose 2% a night.View attachment 3713655View attachment 3713656View attachment 3713658
Edit: I found that turning WiFi on and off causes a wake lock each time of around 2 minutes as Google services try to look for a data source
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Can you explain your point about the wifi issue?
I'm running a clean install of 3.0.0 and it's LOVELY, but my battery is terrible.
Would be interested in ways to improve if I could understand the wifi problem.
Please, while complaining about f**ked up battery life, do something that benefits us all.
Post screenshots of your battery usage chart from android settings and post logs from apps such as BetterBatteryStats.
I did try, however i'm "new" to the forum (posting) and therefore could not attach or add links .
Essentially though Android OS is showing:
CPU Total: 1h 15m
Keep awake: 57m
It's also 15% of my total battery usage.
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OOS 3 has been the best for me in terms of battery. With moderate usage and sync on I frequently get over 5 hours sot over 3 days of use vs 1.5 days on 2.2.1. Doze is fantastic and I barely lose 2% a night.View attachment 3713655View attachment 3713656View attachment 3713658
Edit: I found that turning WiFi on and off causes a wake lock each time of around 2 minutes as Google services try to look for a data source
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Don't you have idle drain because of network dropping? Since marshmallow, I've had that issue that once the device goes off to sleep, the network bar in the battery is either yellow, or orange. And it isn't that I don;t have good reception, I never had this issue before upgrading to OOS 3, otherwise the OS is really good.
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Can you explain your point about the wifi issue?
I'm running a clean install of 3.0.0 and it's LOVELY, but my battery is terrible.
Would be interested in ways to improve if I could understand the wifi problem.
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From what I've found, each time I turn off wifi my wakelock increase by 2 minutes under android system/oxygen, more specifically "connectivity service"
I believe it's just the system trying to find a data source after wifi is turned off. (my data is off)
So given this, its best to leave wifi on unless you're gonna be in a place with no wifi all day, turning it on and off will cause wakelocks
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Don't you have idle drain because of network dropping? Since marshmallow, I've had that issue that once the device goes off to sleep, the network bar in the battery is either yellow, or orange. And it isn't that I don;t have good reception, I never had this issue before upgrading to OOS 3, otherwise the OS is really good.
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I notice this as well, reception is sometimes green and mostly orange/yellow vs solid green on 2.2.1 but it hasn't seemed to affect my idle drain. In fact it has actually decreased from 2.2.1 where I would get a drain of at least 5% every 7 hour sleep period even with airplane mode and power saver enabled. Now on 3.0, drain is more like 2% with wifi over the same period.
Additionally, someone stated that the orange/yellow reception phenomenon was marshmallow actively trying to conserve radio power when its not needed. I don't know how accurate this is but it might be true
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From what I've found, each time I turn off wifi my wakelock increase by 2 minutes under android system/oxygen, more specifically "connectivity service"
I believe it's just the system trying to find a data source after wifi is turned off. (my data is off)
So given this, its best to leave wifi on unless you're gonna be in a place with no wifi all day, turning it on and off will cause wakelocks
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I notice this as well, reception is sometimes green and mostly orange/yellow vs solid green on 2.2.1 but it hasn't seemed to affect my idle drain. In fact it has actually decreased from 2.2.1 where I would get a drain of at least 5% every 7 hour sleep period even with airplane mode and power saver enabled. Now on 3.0, drain is more like 2% with wifi over the same period.
Additionally, someone stated that the orange/yellow reception phenomenon was marshmallow actively trying to conserve radio power when its not needed. I don't know how accurate this is but it might be true
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Weird, on OOS 2.2.0 I used to get hardly 3-4 % drain in around 7-8 hours, on OOS 2.2.1 it became more 5-7% and on OOS 3.0 I get 8-9%.. Very weird... Isn't OS update supposed to make things better? Also I did do a clean flash of this particular rom and I am all stock, havent rooted the device yet.
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Weird, on OOS 2.2.0 I used to get hardly 3-4 % drain in around 7-8 hours, on OOS 2.2.1 it became more 5-7% and on OOS 3.0 I get 8-9%.. Very weird... Isn't OS update supposed to make things better?[emoji14]Also I did do a clean flash of this particular rom and I am all stock, havent rooted the device yet.
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What sort of apps do you have ? Maybe a rogue app?
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What sort of apps do you have ? Maybe a rogue app?
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Umm, don't have too many apps installed, basic ones.. few social netowrking, NOT facebook or it's messenger. I think the network drop is the problem, Also, android OS/oxygen is always on top.
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Umm, don't have too many apps installed, basic ones.. few social netowrking, NOT facebook or it's messenger. I think the network drop is the problem, Also, android OS/oxygen is always on top.
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And also, weird thing, the phone is not awake during the deep sleep, atleast not showing in the battery graph.
Could you plz explain did you do any changes to have 11hrs of SOT??
I'm desperate, Android system and Android OS are draining my battery, I can't get to the end of the day and when using it it gets hot very often, despite not using hard apps. I tried to flash Hydrogen OS, CM13, PA, using greenify, etc... facing exactly the same problems. Can anyone help me?
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I got a Nexus 4 yesterday, and so far it has been excellent. Really fast and has all the features I want. The battery life is pretty poor though. I am at 28% with a screen on time of only about 2 hours. The total time is about 8 hours. I haven't been using it a lot. The main thing consuming battery seems to be Nova Launcher for some reason. I have it on my Nexus 7 and it doesn't decrease battery life at all, but it seems to use a lot more on here. It was at 24% according to GSam Battery Monitor.
I just followed a bunch of instructions for increasing battery life from various websites so I will see how it goes. I now have all the Google syncing disabled, location services off and brightness on auto.
Is there anything I should be doing? Why is Nova Launcher's usage so high?
Thanks,
EDIT: Could it be the widgets I am using? I have two Gmail inbox widgets, the messaging widget and the circle battery widget.
Same here though I'm not sure its nova, my battery got as bad as yours when i rooted to stock.
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EDIT: Could it be the widgets I am using? I have two Gmail inbox widgets, the messaging widget and the circle battery widget.
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it could, or any other apps you have working in the background. it can also be how you use the device. but before you assume anything about your battery life, give it 3-4 battery cycles before it normalizes.
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it could, or any other apps you have working in the background. it can also be how you use the device. but before you assume anything about your battery life, give it 3-4 battery cycles before it normalizes.
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Alright. I have minor OCD kind of thing so I always close the active apps through the task manager as soon as I exit them. I'll give it a few more days and then pursue the issue further.
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Alright. I have minor OCD kind of thing so I always close the active apps through the task manager as soon as I exit them. I'll give it a few more days and then pursue the issue further.
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im ocd about that too, lol. the back button to kill is one of my favorite custom rom features. also, autostarts and greenify are both great apps to make sure that you have mich less ctap opening in the background. anyways, im a heavy user normally, battery life on the nexus 4 id never call bad. usually i get 3.5-5.5 hours screen on time, depending on use. but then again, i use a custom kernel thats optimized for performance and battery. but, stock rom/kernel isnt bad on battery.
I too Force Close all the social networking apps before sleeping and turn wifi off. And i daily get around 4 hrs of OST. Will attach pics later to show. So to get 4 hrs OST you need really need to have a custom kernel. Just optimize your usage and you are fine with the stock kernel.
Phone is totally stock. Not rooted. And i got 6 pages on Apps installed.
I even used to clear RAM every now and then but I just stopped doing it as I couldn't find it doing anything better.
The battery life is much better now. Yesterday when I got back from school it was at 40% or so, and today it was at 68%.
Gets better after a few battery cycles. My battery life was average, so I rooted and with matr1x kernel it's snappier and better battery.
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i'm stock and my battery life was shockingly bad on the default settings until yesterday when i tried some fixes and they have made things much better.
looking at my N4 right now, i'm still on 58% after 22 hours. that's after several voice calls, some browsing & reading emails, GPS navigation using Maps, a couple of skype video calls, wake-up alarms etc.
basic fixes as follows:
- screen brightness right down to maybe 10-15%
- data off when not being used, ditto location services
- NFC and BT off.
- i've left wifi on as it doesn't seem to take much battery if it's not being used.
that's all! after charging last night, i woke after 6 hours or so and was amazed to see it had dropped only 1-2%, so apparently nothing is waking it from sleep.
One thing that really improved my battery life (when I had a Nexus 4) and something I tell to anybody with poor battery life, is to go into maps, go to settings, location settings, and uncheck "report from this device". If you've got the app "wakelock detector" just watch the wakelocks from maps almost entirely disappear. It nearly doubled my battery life at the time.
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One thing that really improved my battery life (when I had a Nexus 4) and something I tell to anybody with poor battery life, is to go into maps, go to settings, location settings, and uncheck "report from this device". If you've got the app "wakelock detector" just watch the wakelocks from maps almost entirely disappear. It nearly doubled my battery life at the time.
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Hey thx man that didn't work but it did start me down the path to fix my problem.
I found out it had something to do with my GPS options its in settings and location access WiFi and GPS location options i checked it off and now i am getting 1 hour screen on time for every %10 if you do the math i have about 8hours of screen on time! I also have setcpu app which is giving me about 48hours of standby time, i will upload some screens after a bit more testing.
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My battery life is brill and i never turn owt off or force anything to close, it is only bad when i play a 3d game or something but what do you expect. over night it only drops about 1% every 4 hours which is a bit bonkers.
(screen on auto, fully stock with Nova and not rooted)
root your ish bish and get dem kick ass kernel burnals and rom toms and you will nevers has to worry bouts turning ish off or freezing ice na saying homie foo schnickens 49 percent bombers up in this piece
still haven't charged my N4 since my last post on this thread.
now 1 day 15h and still 40% charge left
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root your ish bish and get dem kick ass kernel burnals and rom toms and you will nevers has to worry bouts turning ish off or freezing ice na saying homie foo schnickens 49 percent bombers up in this piece
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Lol, so whats a custom kernel? cuzz i think I don't hav one because i hav rooted stock rom. sorry not to change subject
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first day of full use in my nexus 4 I got 5 hours of screen on time. stock rom and kernel, just rooted. I think it's pretty decent.
just do what people say, disable location useless stuff and monitor your wake locks.
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If you would like to risk such things as unlocking bootloader, rooting, installing custom ROM and kernel, then it'd be easier for you.
Personally, I've found codefireX ROM and faux123 kernel to be battery friendly and very responsive, but of course you've got to be a bit fixed on such things as playing with your devices and getting fun from it to do that
another update:
after 20m browsing/ emails this morning and a couple of calls, i'm down to:
2d 9h 18m and 11%
disable auto brightness
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OK, I finally got the "connect to charger" message just now after 2d 13h. here are my final battery stats:
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So I was posting some info in another thread but I figured I would make my own thread for it. It seems like the power consumption at idle might be the cause for the "not as good as expected" battery life. For example my G3 will sit off the charger for 4 hours without being used and still be at 100%, the Turbo loses 6% in that time. The G3 has a 3000mAH Battery and I could easily get 24h of off the charger time on the G3. My question is what is killing the battery on the Turbo??? Its kinda hard to look over the battery stats when there is no root. Anyone have any input?
I think it's because of the wifi. I too have experienced crazy idle drain compared to my G2 and it's really making me regret getting this phone. It seems like they just slapped the kitkat ROM together and didn't really care to test it very well because Lollipop is coming out so soon.
It's definitely draining at idle more than usual or should be, I agree. I don't think it is WiFi related though, or at least not enough to be the main problem. I could be wrong of course. I have also not experience any WiFi or Bluetooth issues whatsoever and I use a Moto 360 all day, every day.
I am currently on my 4th charge cycle since acquiring the 64GB BN model. It's been powered on for 7h 32m and I'm sitting at 78% with 1hr 18m SoT. That's with heavy usage and taking quite a bit of pictures & video during this mornings product demo presentations at work.
Hardly anything for me personally to complain about. I'm sure they will optimize it. I'm almost certain than Android L 5.0 will make this phone a true beast.
Time will tell.
are you leaving gps or high accuracy location settings on?
I have the same issue as the OP. My G3 lost very little battery life when idling. I've attempted shutting down email accounts, turning off location and selectively removing apps in hopes of determining the cause of the drain...without success. This could be a deal breaker if we don't get some type of root exploit soon.
Well this sucks. I was going to get the Turbo but now I'm going to wait and see what happens with this drain issue. Maybe 5.0 will fix it.
I have been using the same settings that I did on my G3, Auto brightness, Location OFF and Auto Sync. Glad I'm not the only one noticing it too, I think its all in the build of Kit Kat they put on this phone, hopefully L comes out soon.
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So I was posting some info in another thread but I figured I would make my own thread for it. It seems like the power consumption at idle might be the cause for the "not as good as expected" battery life. For example my G3 will sit off the charger for 4 hours without being used and still be at 100%, the Turbo loses 6% in that time. The G3 has a 3000mAH Battery and I could easily get 24h of off the charger time on the G3. My question is what is killing the battery on the Turbo??? Its kinda hard to look over the battery stats when there is no root. Anyone have any input?
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How about you start by posting screenshots of your battery stats from System...Battery
I don't have any issues whatsoever.
Well once I figure out how to do that I will post it, but in the mean time what phone were you coming from? A few people have agreed in this post that the battery life is worse @ idle then the G3 so its not just me.
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Well once I figure out how to do that I will post it, but in the mean time what phone were you coming from? A few people have agreed in this post that the battery life is worse @ idle then the G3 so its not just me.
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Well G3 could be out of box, not trying to argue wanted to understand what your problem was. If you press the graph you'll see more details on what is using batteries (awake vs screen on, cell signal etc) and more in Android System if you go into that screen.
Overall what your getting .. 1-2% is not a big deal to me and beauty of the massive battery is you don't have to worry about but if really wanted to you could improve by turning off stuff you don't need or even automating it.
FWIW I'm coming from a GS3 with a tiny battery but even that phone lasted 5 days idling with the right setting for my use case (cell radio off / WiFi on). With Turbo just disabled some apps I didn't need and don't even think about it any more. I do have complaints about the Turbo but battery is definitely not one of them.
I'm interested in this as well. I bought my turbo yesterday evening and it had a pretty good charge (>80%) out of the box. I played with it for much of the evening and copied ~8gb of data to the phone via wifi. When I went to bed battery was at 60%, when I woke up it was 46%. I noticed that my third biggest battery use is command center, so I disabled auto-location in that app. I'm hoping to have better results on my first full charge.
Yeah I agree, but its literally the same settings I ran of my G3. I think I'm just gonna return it between the weak wifi and cell signal, and the camera it's just not worth it if the battery life isn't better then my G3
I've been posting in the other battery life thread... but to summarize, I'm going to be doing some thorough testing over the next 24/48 hours (currently ongoing).
I have already noticed significant improvements in my battery life. Has mentioned in the other thread. I'll be making a detailed post on Friday evening with my results.
I may also, from time to time post some of my progress, as I already have an understanding as to one of the issues involved with the so called "idle drain" everyone is referring to, and it is NOT WiFi.
Keep your eyes on that thread here.
Thanks, I'm pretty good with understanding wake locks, I just don't know where to start without root since most the stats in BB require it. I'm intrested to see what you come up with. I'm gonna wait till Saturday anyway to see if I still want to trade this in for the nexus.
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I'm gonna wait till Saturday anyway to see if I still want to trade this in for the nexus.
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Is there a hard date for the nexus?
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I've been posting in the other battery life thread... but to summarize, I'm going to be doing some thorough testing over the next 24/48 hours (currently ongoing).
I have already noticed significant improvements in my battery life. Has mentioned in the other thread. I'll be making a detailed post on Friday evening with my results.
I may also, from time to time post some of my progress, as I already have an understanding as to one of the issues involved with the so called "idle drain" everyone is referring to.
Keep your eyes on that thread here.
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Very interested in what you come up with, thanks!
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Thanks, I'm pretty good with understanding wake locks, I just don't know where to start without root since most the stats in BB require it. I'm intrested to see what you come up with. I'm gonna wait till Saturday anyway to see if I still want to trade this in for the nexus.
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Well you are limited with what you can do but I already gave you a start in my post, maybe you missed it. The only insight you will have without root (for tools like Better Battery Stats) is looking into all the info you can get out of Settings..Battery. There you can see wake locks vs screen on time and other stats like cell signal / wifi status etc. Then you can also dive into your biggest usage, for you it looks like it is Android System. They will list system services that are classified here. For example, you'll see the moto features are part of this. If you don't want to dig you can wait for Andromjb's updates
Overall I wouldn't base your decision to return the Turbo based on the battery -- base it on your other problems it sounds like you're having with wifi signal etc. That sounds like reason enough for a return. If you're ok with the larger size of the Nexus 6 then to me it's a no brainer to go with that instead of Droid Turbo since they are almost identical in terms of hardware.
For those that are getting battery drain, did you disable all of the verizon apps? There are some 20+ apps that are constantly running in the background and will drain your battery(even after i did a factory reset, these apps were sending data despite me never having opened them). Disable those, restart, then see if things change over the next cycle. I got 2d9hr31m and 4hr23 min of SOT(minimal usage) and was at 13%; this was on the first charge.
Could this drain be due to some of the sensors used for notifications. Doesn't the turbo have the feature where you stick your hand over it and it shows the notifications? If this is the case, wouldn't those sensors have to stay on?
Yeah I have 27 apps disabled and it really didn't make a difference for me like it has in the past, their must be something killing the battery on this 30m of screen time and I'm at 79% shouldn't be happening.
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Yeah I have 27 apps disabled and it really didn't make a difference for me like it has in the past, their must be something killing the battery on this 30m of screen time and I'm at 79% shouldn't be happening.
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Thats actually really interesting. I haven't been experiencing anything like that. Perhaps try doing a factory reset then disabling them again. That's the only thing I did differently. Perhaps it's just a bad device? I'm already at 2hrs screen time, heavy downloading(off line apps), and have been on battery for 1d8hr- still at 45%. Is there anything in the battery stats? Wake locks perhaps?
Question.. How is everyone else's battery life been so far on Android N? Mine has been atrocious and it's mainly due to Bluetooth. I did a clean install by flashing the recent google image (MTC20F) in ADB then enrolling my Nexus in the beta program and getting the N OTA. I charged my phone to 100% then left for the gym around 5am, got home at 7:40am and my battery is down to 46% from just listening to Pandora, Spotify via bluetooth. Here are some screenshots.. I was getting significantly better battery life on Pure Nexus Rom.. Also, I am stock and not rooted or using any custom tweaks. It's 100% Stock
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Question.. How is everyone else's battery life been so far on Android N? Mine has been atrocious and it's mainly due to Bluetooth. I did a clean install by flashing the recent google image (MTC20F) in ADB then enrolling my Nexus in the beta program and getting the N OTA. I charged my phone to 100% then left for the gym around 5am, got home at 7:40am and my battery is down to 46% from just listening to Pandora, Spotify via bluetooth. Here are some screenshots.. I was getting significantly better battery life on Pure Nexus Rom..
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Try installing the EX kernel and disabling touchboost under the CPU settings. I get ~40 hours battery life with normal usage. If you tweaked the settings i am sure you would get 2 days easy.
First cycle is today. Doing good...
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Mine is doing the exact same thing as the op's. Bluetooth is just killing the battery too but I am on stock, not rooted or anything. I went from 89% to 26% in a span of 3 hours with Bluetooth and Spotify on in my car and at the gym. I have taken out almost all 3rd party apps, which seems to have helped but this morning as the Bluetooth was on (for Spotify and Waze) during my commute to work, it went right down to 75% from 100% in a span of 45 minutes and that's with the screen OFF. On Android M, the most it had gone down to was to 88%. 75% is ridiculous.
With Bluetooth off, the phone seems to be doing OK ? Android OS and Android System are eating up the battery.
I will do the factory reset tonight and hope for the best but this is the worst battery life I've ever seen on my phone.
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First cycle is today. Doing good... View attachment 3853114
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Great.... So N does not fix whatever the hell bug started in MM with Android system and os.
That's not good news..
Thanks for reports though.
Keep them coming.
meboy said:
Great.... So N does not fix whatever the hell bug started in MM with Android system and os.
That's not good news..
Thanks for reports though.
Keep them coming.
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What issue?
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What issue?
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There is a thread for just about every phone that has MM.
Look around for Android System and Android OS.
Not in LP.
I don't know what Bluetooth and android system/os issues you are mentioning, but I did a clean stock restore with factory images from Pure Nexus then took the OTA through system update, all was good, did a factory data reset, pushed twrp 3.0.2-1 then then supersu 2.76 and took most of the Google stuff I don't use out.
No issues what's so ever. Battery is great. I'm losing about 10% battery for every 45-50 min sot. And the new doze is working flawlessly. I lost 1% battery overnight in 7.5 hours. Yesterday Gsam battery monitor showed my phone was in light or deep doze in 7:20 out over 9.5 hours of charge with 2 hours sot.
I'm only rooted with some debloat and TiBu and battery apps gsam and wakelock detector
It's not BT guys. It's your music streaming. Bet if you moved to an app that uses on board music and tested it you would find you have better battery life.
I'm stock and not rooted with any mods.. Just find it weird.. On PN Rom my battery life was fantastic with Elemental X Kernel..
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Mine is doing the exact same thing as the op's. Bluetooth is just killing the battery too but I am on stock, not rooted or anything. I went from 89% to 26% in a span of 3 hours with Bluetooth and Spotify on in my car and at the gym. I have taken out almost all 3rd party apps, which seems to have helped but this morning as the Bluetooth was on (for Spotify and Waze) during my commute to work, it went right down to 75% from 100% in a span of 45 minutes and that's with the screen OFF. On Android M, the most it had gone down to was to 88%. 75% is ridiculous.
With Bluetooth off, the phone seems to be doing OK ? Android OS and Android System are eating up the battery.
I will do the factory reset tonight and hope for the best but this is the worst battery life I've ever seen on my phone.
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I went back to all stock and non rooted.. Wanted to just try N pure without any mods but I guess that might have to change.
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Try installing the EX kernel and disabling touchboost under the CPU settings. I get ~40 hours battery life with normal usage. If you tweaked the settings i am sure you would get 2 days easy.
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I don't think that's the issue seeing as how you can download your spotify playlist to your phone which I do.. Not to mention in my screenshot, Spotify wasn't the root of the issue, the Bluetooth was at 20%.. Nothing else was close..
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It's not BT guys. It's your music streaming. Bet if you moved to an app that uses on board music and tested it you would find you have better battery life.
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I don't think that's the issue seeing as how you can download your spotify playlist to your phone which I do.. Not to mention in my screenshot, Spotify wasn't the root of the issue, the Bluetooth was at 20%.. Nothing else was close..
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Look at the cell connection. There are 2 major factors normally to battery drain. 1. SOT and 2. Cell connectivity. As an example. It doesnt matter how big of a battery I use or the device. I can easily kill the battery on any phone within 4 hours without even touching it due to cell signal.
Normally I would agree with you but in the screenshots I posted (not sure why they're so small), my SOT was only 16 mins and my LTE connection was at full strength. I never had these issues when I was using Pure Nexus Rom and I was using that ROM since October of last year with the same exact setup and haven't moved from my current apt.. Literally haven't done anything differently from that Rom to Nougat and for some reason, bluetooth is killing my battery. In the pics I posted where it shows what's eating battery, it was at 20% and the next thing was 9%.. Spotify was at 3% and Pandora was around 3%..
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Look at the cell connection. There are 2 major factors normally to battery drain. 1. SOT and 2. Cell connectivity. As an example. It doesnt matter how big of a battery I use or the device. I can easily kill the battery on any phone within 4 hours without even touching it due to cell signal.
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Normally I would agree with you but in the screenshots I posted (not sure why they're so small), my SOT was only 16 mins and my LTE connection was at full strength. I never had these issues when I was using Pure Nexus Rom and I was using that ROM since October of last year with the same exact setup and haven't moved from my current apt.. Literally haven't done anything differently from that Rom to Nougat and for some reason, bluetooth is killing my battery. In the pics I posted where it shows what's eating battery, it was at 20% and the next thing was 9%.. Spotify was at 3% and Pandora was around 3%..
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Custom roms change how things work like that. Like I noticed on a few roms they will throttle the data when the device is off.
Those stats really are kinda misleading. What ever you use the most will always be at top. No matter how much it uses. As an example. for 30 min say you use youtube the most and the next 30 you use spotify the most. You will see them swap off when you look at what is draining your battery.
Also you have to remember that with the new update many things have changed system wide. If it were me. I would pull a logcat. I dont have the official yet for my nexus 6 so still on the developer preview and I run BT all day long using power amp and it bearly touches the battery. Mind you that could just be issue with the 7.0 update which is why they are already working on 7.1 to be released in a few weeks.
Very good point.. I'll continue to monitor it over the next few days, if all else fails I will just go back to a custom rom and wait for 7.1... Thanks for the info
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Custom roms change how things work like that. Like I noticed on a few roms they will throttle the data when the device is off.
Those stats really are kinda misleading. What ever you use the most will always be at top. No matter how much it uses. As an example. for 30 min say you use youtube the most and the next 30 you use spotify the most. You will see them swap off when you look at what is draining your battery.
Also you have to remember that with the new update many things have changed system wide. If it were me. I would pull a logcat. I dont have the official yet for my nexus 6 so still on the developer preview and I run BT all day long using power amp and it bearly touches the battery. Mind you that could just be issue with the 7.0 update which is why they are already working on 7.1 to be released in a few weeks.
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Very good point.. I'll continue to monitor it over the next few days, if all else fails I will just go back to a custom rom and wait for 7.1... Thanks for the info
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Here is my current SS. Yes it is only a couple of hours but I connect my BT headset the min I wake up and it stays on all day long.
That's how mine was when I was using a custom rom.. Never saw Bluetooth on there before and I used it often as well.. Not sure what the issue is.. It's really weird
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Here is my current SS. Yes it is only a couple of hours but I connect my BT headset the min I wake up and it stays on all day long. View attachment 3854298
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That's how mine was when I was using a custom rom.. Never saw Bluetooth on there before and I used it often as well.. Not sure what the issue is.. It's really weird
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Grab a logcat. Did you take an OTA or do a full complete redo for the update? I am shooting in the dark myself really. Just suggesting what I would do. I also dont use streaming music apps. I keep all my music on device for many reasons.
I did a factory reset. Thought it fixed my Bluetooth drain as I had Spotify on and Waze while connected to my car this morning. Usually by the time I get to work after 45-50 minutes, I'd be down to 88% from 100% (with a few 3rd party apps installed). Thought it was fixed as I only went down to 96% for the duration of my commute (with minimal 3rd party apps installed).
However, the Bluetooth drain showed up again when I connected my Bluetooth headphones for use in the gym. The drain was not as drastic as I reported earlier. However, it still took up a nice chunk and Bluetooth again is sitting at the top of my battery usage list along with Android System and Android OS. The phone is at least acceptable now but I have no idea why it is draining as quickly now when it never used to do this before when I was on Android M. It's not like I changed my routine or usage habits.
Also, I am on stock, not rooted or anything so really not sure what is going on. Maybe I will just wait for a patch or something.
What's new:
Improved camera UI
That's it. No other improvements. The update is 150mb in size, so i am hoping there would be behind the scenes bug fixing. Especially hoping it would fix the wifi sleep battery drain issue. Will update this thread in a couple of days on my findings.
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Update: I can confirm that this update does not fix the wifi/sleep issue. Went to bed at 10pm and checked the tablet at 6am. Lost 12% battery. Battery Usage tells me the tablet was awake the whole time and did not go to sleep mode. This is really bad compared to my S8+ which only loses 3% battery overnight.
Still the fix would be to switch off wifi before going to bed and the tablet will only lose 1 to 2% of its battery.
This one lost 5% over sleep but that's still a lot. I'm testing an old Asus Nexus 7 for the hell of it (it hadn't been turned on for 4 years and literally two days ago updated it to 5.1 and just left it to see if the battery would hold). The Nexus 7 is beating the S3 so far. Also have an iPad to compare and that thing can stay in standby for a month solid.
I'm just going to turn it off when not in use, waiting a minute for bootup (plus fingerprint so no having to fiddle with pw screen) isn't a huge deal to me.
Yeah it's annoying that Samsung can't get it right, even after more than a year with several devices running on the SD820 platform. I just don't get how my pixel, with nearly the same hardware, is so much smoother and more battery efficient. /rant
Anyways, I just have WiFi set to turn off when the screen is off. I only charge it once every 4-5 days with light to moderate usage
Idiots are probably not aware of the issue. WTF is there no theme store?? Getting tired of this SAMMY BS.
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Does anyone have a link so I can Download the latest update? Or do I need to remove root and then update in the traditional way? (I would prefer to have a file I can flash in Odin)
your help is appreciated.
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Update: I can confirm that this update does not fix the wifi/sleep issue. Went to bed at 10pm and checked the tablet at 6am. Lost 12% battery. Battery Usage tells me the tablet was awake the whole time and did not go to sleep mode. This is really bad compared to my S8+ which only loses 3% battery overnight.
Still the fix would be to switch off wifi before going to bed and the tablet will only lose 1 to 2% of its battery.
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FYI - I have a case I keep my tablet in. WHile in the case, I didn't use the tablet for two weeks. Busy having fun with new S8+) anyway, I still have over 50% of my battery remaining. When I open the case, the screen comes on very quickly. It appears that being in the case has helped to put this thing to sleep and I guess that puts battery drain down to about that 2% to 3% your S8+ gets.
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Does anyone have a link so I can Download the latest update? Or do I need to remove root and then update in the traditional way? (I would prefer to have a file I can flash in Odin)
your help is appreciated.
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FYI - I have a case I keep my tablet in. WHile in the case, I didn't use the tablet for two weeks. Busy having fun with new S8+) anyway, I still have over 50% of my battery remaining. When I open the case, the screen comes on very quickly. It appears that being in the case has helped to put this thing to sleep and I guess that puts battery drain down to about that 2% to 3% your S8+ gets.
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Remove root and go back to stock if you want ota update.
You should be able to find the firmware on sammobile.com.
I also have a case on mine with the screen on off function but still the tablet doesn't go to sleep.
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Remove root and go back to stock if you want ota update.
You should be able to find the firmware on sammobile.com.
I also have a case on mine with the screen on off function but still the tablet doesn't go to sleep.
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Sammobile doesnt have the firmware for XAR which I beleive is the US. I saw a link previously for the old firmware somewhere to samsung firmware - but when I search that site, I can't find the new update. I will try other options.
thanks
Everyone seems to be using the tablet for light duty thus far.
I'm going to chime in and add that I'll be using it for CPU intensive apps. Re: SoundCamp, FL Studio, and other heavy tasks. Don't think this will live up to "12 hour run time" that everyone's oohing and awwing over XD
I wound up getting the battery to about 13% and turned on "battery saver" for the day. It was supposed to last 23 hours. When the work day was over (about 16 hours by the time I got home) it was off. Figured it was worth testing time to complete-off from full charge. No idea when it actually turned off, but the system isn't optimized for this so-called battery saver mode either. Every other device I've owned with this feature has had accurate results (sometimes more), but not here.
Thinking of returning mine coz of the wifi bug and going back to my s2.
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Thinking of returning mine coz of the wifi bug and going back to my s2.
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What kind of bug? Lost connection? I have this issue on mine s3
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The battery drain bug thats been referred to in many places here. Not sure if and when it will be fixed.
The older S2 doesn't have this problem and it seems like the Exynos 5433 with it's 8 standard ARM cores as opposed to Qualcomm's custom 4 cores in 820 (though theoretically faster) handle Touchwiz better with less UI jankiness since both run Nougat 7.0 now.
There is a a ADQC firmware out for a lot of countries including UK, trying that one to see if the Wifi bug is fixed. Why do they delay the US version so much is beyond me? Same story with the S2 firmwares, went to the Germany/Singapore version since US receives firmware updates last, even though there are no carrier delays for the Wifi only versions.
This firmware resolves the issue: http://updato.com/firmware-archive-select-model?record=1D0F4E90377111E7963AFA163EE8F90B ! Confirmed 0% drain over 3 hours on standby would have def lost at least 2-3 % by now.
Look for BTU firmware T820XXU1AQDC if the link expires.
Does anyone not charge their tab overnight? That negates all of this *****ing. Then it is at 100% when you wake up. Win win for all.
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Does anyone not charge their tab overnight? That negates all of this *****ing. Then it is at 100% when you wake up. Win win for all.
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I charge on the weekends. I use the tab to take notes for work during the week.
Currently, I have tasker turn off wifi when the screen is off. I have updated, so I'll try without tasker.
I take my earlier comment back, aqdc still has the wifi drain bug, very annoying. Also, the new ipad pro makes this look like a joke. We need an 8895 in this tab not useless qualcomm chips.
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The battery drain bug thats been referred to in many places here. Not sure if and when it will be fixed.
The older S2 doesn't have this problem and it seems like the Exynos 5433 with it's 8 standard ARM cores as opposed to Qualcomm's custom 4 cores in 820 (though theoretically faster) handle Touchwiz better with less UI jankiness since both run Nougat 7.0 now.
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I have a EU LTE Tab S3. It's connected to Wi-Fi continually when I'm home. I lose 2-3% when the tablet's sleeping overnight. I didn't know there was a Wi-Fi bug until I saw this thread. But I do have a Netgear R9000 which is a beast of a router. Is there any commonality to the Wi-Fi drain problem? I don't remember which Samsung phone it was but one had a big problem with D-Link routers specifically.
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Does anyone not charge their tab overnight? That negates all of this *****ing. Then it is at 100% when you wake up. Win win for all.
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So it's now referred to as "*****ing" when people are noticing a very clear obvious issue with a device and would like to see it fixed. Amazing. Maybe for the S4 they can just not put speakers on it and we can all be considered "*****ing" because we should all just use headphones?
Anyway......completely ridiculous that there are constantly issues with these things. I TRY to switch away from iPad constantly and there is just not an Android tablet on the market that is in the same ballpark and at this point I doubt there ever will be. I've lost 8% of battery life today already and the thing has been on for like 2 and a half hours, and of that time I've probably spent like 5 minutes actually using it. The rest of the time it's just been sitting there, screen off. Pathetic. An iPad would still be at 100%, MAYBE 99%.
Please report the wifi issue here to pressure samsung for a fix :
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Tablets/tab-S3-wifi-power-drain-bug/m-p/123511#M5427
I just wanted to put this out there. I have O beta installed with latest update, no root, bootloader locked, DNS66 app for adblocking and always on vpn, greenify (whatever it can do without root and jumping through adb hoops), stock launcher and I have never ever ever had such a great standby battery life. In EX kernel managers battery monitor, I see < 1 % per hour screen off battery drain consistently where I have not been able to go below 2.2% with any, (I say any and I have tried all) rom+kernel combination on 7.1.x.
This is GREAT!! I have never been happier with any stock rom ever.
EDIT: I would like to add that I have LG Urbane watch connected with phone all the time so bluetooth is on all the time but I bluetooth scanning is disabled (in location improvement, wifi scanning is still on). Battery optimizations for android wear is disabled.
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I just wanted to put this out there. I have O beta installed with latest update, no root, bootloader locked, DNS66 app for adblocking and always on vpn, greenify (whatever it can do without root and jumping through adb hoops), stock launcher and I have never ever ever had such a great standby battery life. In EX kernel managers battery monitor, I see < 1 % per hour screen off battery drain consistently where I have not been able to go below 2.2% with any, (I say any and I have tried all) rom+kernel combination on 7.1.x.
This is GREAT!! I have never been happier with any stock rom ever.
EDIT: I would like to add that I have LG Urbane watch connected with phone all the time so bluetooth is on all the time but I bluetooth scanning is disabled (in location improvement, wifi scanning is still on). Battery optimizations for android wear is disabled.
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Is it possible you can take a screenshot of your battery stats from settings so some of us that like visuals can see? What is your screen on time like?
That's interesting, cause my battery life and performance have both dropped significantly for me on O compared to Nougat
It's worse on O, though pretty great for beta. I've got up to 5h of SOT.
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milan187 said:
It's worse on O, though pretty great for beta. I've got up to 5h of SOT.
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how much SOT do you get on others?
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how much SOT do you get on others?
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Best ever is 7h on PN and Frank kernel.
Stock usually 5h so the O isn't too far off. Maybe very slightly for me. It can only improve from here I think.
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Best ever is 7h on PN and Frank kernel.
Stock usually 5h so the O isn't too far off. Maybe very slightly for me. It can only improve from here I think.
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7h is unheard of. were you on battery saver mode the entire time?
I can get over 6h on a fully stock pixel, locked bootloader and all. I would say the majority of my time is on wifi. O beta seems to work well but my understanding from a community post by Google, don't have the link anymore, is you need beta Google play services installed as well to get O's battery benefits. I can't say that it makes more of a difference for me in comparison to avoiding notorious apps which hinder performance. I had similar battery life on N.
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My battery life on O was horrendous. We're talking night and day. I run stock with not more than 20 or so apps. Something is really really wrong with O. I've gone back and forth on the beta twice with the same results.
I use the beta ROM about one week and it is very very good , also battery very good
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I'm getting really nice batterylife with 8.0, which is awesome. It is now more in line with my average battery life with other devices like the HTC 10 and such. This however is fine to me as long as it's not dying by 1-2PM for me haha
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I'm getting really nice batterylife with 8.0, which is awesome. It is now more in line with my average battery life with other devices like the HTC 10 and such. This however is fine to me as long as it's not dying by 1-2PM for me haha
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If you can, please gives us a little bit more about your setup meaning if you have root, kernel managers, aggressive doze app (greenify, naptime, etc), limiting background services etc
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If you can, please gives us a little bit more about your setup meaning if you have root, kernel managers, aggressive doze app (greenify, naptime, etc), limiting background services etc
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I am completely stock, just updated today. I turned off background operation using the battery manager built in to Android to limit apps like Instagram, Facebook, Snapchat, Reddit, Chrooma Keyboard, etc.
For my usage my phone wouldn't last very long. I would probably hit 50% with an hour of screen on time. Now I'm at an hour and 54 minutes with 54% left. I've been off the charger since around 11AM, and it's currently 4PM so I'm definitely gonna have to see where it goes from here. When I leave work the real concern is heat when playing music or podcasts over Bluetooth, for whatever reason my phone was getting really hot when I used Bluetooth so I'll see how that is when I leave work today.
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I just wanted to put this out there. I have O beta installed with latest update, no root, bootloader locked, DNS66 app for adblocking and always on vpn, greenify (whatever it can do without root and jumping through adb hoops), stock launcher and I have never ever ever had such a great standby battery life. In EX kernel managers battery monitor, I see < 1 % per hour screen off battery drain consistently where I have not been able to go below 2.2% with any, (I say any and I have tried all) rom+kernel combination on 7.1.x.
This is GREAT!! I have never been happier with any stock rom ever.
EDIT: I would like to add that I have LG Urbane watch connected with phone all the time so bluetooth is on all the time but I bluetooth scanning is disabled (in location improvement, wifi scanning is still on). Battery optimizations for android wear is disabled.
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Is DNS66 same as DNS Changer? Also, how did you get it to block ads?
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Is DNS66 same as DNS Changer? Also, how did you get it to block ads?
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No it is called dns66. Install the app and it will walk you through it.
https://f-droid.org/packages/org.jak_linux.dns66
Dude dns66 is awesome, thanks for suggesting it.
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Dude dns66 is awesome, thanks for suggesting it.
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Happy to spread the love.
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I just wanted to put this out there. I have O beta installed with latest update, no root, bootloader locked, DNS66 app for adblocking and always on vpn....
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"DNS66 app for adblocking and always on vpn"....slightly confused by this..did you mean that you get privacy features like other VPN providers? AFAIK as I know DNS66 is only a local VPN and does not provide security/privacy features