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[Q] Large battery drain from "Android OS"

Android OS uses by far the most battery on my phone:
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The phone is awake for more than 50% of the time.
BetterBatteryStats or Wakelock Detector get no further than pointing at Android OS.
Any tips on how I might troubleshoot this issue would be welcome!

Search is your friend.....
Turn off location services and see the difference.
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pinsb said:
Search is your friend.....
Turn off location services and see the difference.
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Thanks, I did search quite a bit, but ruled out Location Services because my GPS is always off.
I'll turn off Location Services on top of that and see if it helps!

andomar said:
Thanks, I did search quite a bit, but ruled out Location Services because my GPS is always off.
I'll turn off Location Services on top of that and see if it helps!
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I had a similar problem last 48hours, I put it down to a launcher I was using (KitKat one from Play store) - sure enough that's what it was for me. so switched back to TW

Just restart your phone and see if it makes difference?

Try clearing cache partition in recovery
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Glad it worked
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I had the same problem and it was only fixed temporary by restarts. Since i turned off the advanced wi-fi option "keep wi-fi on during sleep", everything works like a charm. It seems there is a problem with the (deep) sleep states. I am on the newest firmware (rooted, knox 0x0) btw and Android OS went from 60% to 10% battery usage!
So in case the problem returns, try it... You might have a little bit more mobile traffic depending on your apps and configuration, but hopefully this will get sorted out with a new firmware.

I've had the same problem for some time.
curiously enough, I found that turning location services ON fixed the problem.

It can be many things, u need a wakelock detector app or bbs app to oin point the problem.
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Battery Life after MJ7 firmware has been TERRIBLE! Simple!

odeccacccp said:
It can be many things, u need a wakelock detector app or bbs app to oin point the problem.
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Thanks for all the replies. Wakelock Detector blames the "Android OS".
I've turned off location services, advanced Wifi on when charging, done a factory reset, wiped the cache, disabled Google backup service. The "Android OS" is still by far the largest battery hog.
I really wonder!

andomar said:
Thanks for all the replies. Wakelock Detector blames the "Android OS".
I've turned off location services, advanced Wifi on when charging, done a factory reset, wiped the cache, disabled Google backup service. The "Android OS" is still by far the largest battery hog.
I really wonder!
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Here is what i am trying now... Maybe you do the same.
Charge battery up to 90%
Remove the battery and keep it aside for a while, say 10 mins
Plug it back in and charge to 100%.

I discovered mine was due to a custom kitkat launcher from the play store. Soon as I ditched it, the OS drain vanished.
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andomar said:
Thanks for all the replies. Wakelock Detector blames the "Android OS".
I've turned off location services, advanced Wifi on when charging, done a factory reset, wiped the cache, disabled Google backup service. The "Android OS" is still by far the largest battery hog.
I really wonder!
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OS means kernel , install better battery stats from xda and see kernel wakelocks it will tell u which process. Aldo to clear it u csn just fkssh a kernel in recovery, it will ckear it up for a while
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radicalisto said:
I discovered mine was due to a custom kitkat launcher from the play store. Soon as I ditched it, the OS drain vanished.
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which one.?

KitKat Launcher+ by Bjorn Vermeule

JellyBean is by far the most horrible thing I have had in mobile history. A firmware that just relentslessly drains battery by default.... even if you close everything... You can restart and it will work for very short time. but no matter what it will go back to staying awake all the time. I even removed things like facebook, im stock for the second time and all it takes is a charge over night unplug and then its **** again, restart many times during day untill it settles, it then works again at evening, you put it in charger and next day its **** again....
It simply dosent matter what you do, it's broken. Contacted samsung aswel and only solution I got was "We hope kitkat will fix it" as they were aware of the problem.
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Out of my 3 hours and 7 mins my phone have been unplugged today, I have went from a stunning 100% to 93% with no sync AND its been in a amazing 10mins and 22sec deep sleep in these 3 hours and screen have been on for a whole 3mins!!!!
**** you android and ****a you samsuuuung... broken piece of ****

l am on the same boat , battery life is horrible now and can't seem to find a fix
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This helped me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47213318&postcount=71
Never unplugging the charger while screen off and no problem since... Please try and report!

Nvm.
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Android system eating battery

My battery is declining faster than expected and when I looked up my stats, it showed that Android system was eating up more battery than the screen!
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I took my better battery stats as well. I don't have location services on, but I am using Google Now. Is that the reason for this battery drain?
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Dude that's still pretty damn good...why are you complaining?
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Yeah, just last night I had 15 hours on battery, over 5 hours of screen on and still 20% battery left. Don't know why OP os complaining.
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Yeah the phone's battery is great. I always have gps, wifi, and Bluetooth on with pretty good results. I can only imagine how much longer it would last with some of those off.
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I'm not complaining, but just curious why Android system is such a battery drain. It would seem that the screen would be the biggest drain.
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ireknole said:
I'm not complaining, but just curious why Android system is such a battery drain. It would seem that the screen would be the biggest drain.
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Because it is what makes everything in the phone work....

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Because it is what makes everything in the phone work....
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So it should be higher in usage than the screen? I always thought it was a bad thing if Android system was the first thing on the list.
Okay then, never mind. I am happy with the battery life, just want to make sure I'm getting the best battery this phone can offer.
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Just for your reference.
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Generally though if Android OS is higher than your screen on time then you have a wakelock issue. I know without root it'll be a little harder to fix the issue at hand though.
I'd at least look into WiFi settings and turn Always Allow Scanning to Off. Then maybe look at your GPS settings and try the battery friendly mode or GPS only mode. I also don't allow Google to use your WiFi for better location results. There have been similar bugs reported with 4.4 here is some info and afew people trying to squash the issue on a Nexus http://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/1y96zm/battery_drain_caused_by_android_os_possible/
You boys need root!
I'm not sure if any of the wake lock apps out can show you what's causing this without root but maybe look into it.
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Also you can try changing the "keep WiFi on during sleep" to either off or only when plugged in. That may help. Just suggestions that's all. Maybe something here will help somebody.
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You also have to remember how much Samsung based apps are running in the background at all times. Figure the pedometer in S-Health, any kind of airview, or S-This S-That when the phone is on. That is probably part of the cause. I do say i see it too but i wouldnt say my battery is exactly bad because of it.

Mistertac said:
Generally though if Android OS is higher than your screen on time then you have a wakelock issue. I know without root it'll be a little harder to fix the issue at hand though.
I'd at least look into WiFi settings and turn Always Allow Scanning to Off. Then maybe look at your GPS settings and try the battery friendly mode or GPS only mode. I also don't allow Google to use your WiFi for better location results. There have been similar bugs reported with 4.4 here is some info and afew people trying to squash the issue on a Nexus http://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/1y96zm/battery_drain_caused_by_android_os_possible/
You boys need root!
I'm not sure if any of the wake lock apps out can show you what's causing this without root but maybe look into it.
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Also you can try changing the "keep WiFi on during sleep" to either off or only when plugged in. That may help. Just suggestions that's all. Maybe something here will help somebody.
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Thank you for those tips! I didn't know about that wifi one. I immediately unchecked always scanning. I keep my wifi on to make sure I use wifi, if available, but I don't need it always scanning. I hesitated on the gps switch, but I figured I'll try it on power saver and see what happens.
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After turning off wifi scanning, that's what I got. That looks better to me. Although my usage time is lower than my previous screenshot, I started my day at 90% (forgot to charge last night, and that's as high as I could get it before leaving for work), and I'm using my phone more today.
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There's another thread on this. It's happening to a lot of people, including me.

Uninstalling chrome boosted my battery life

I was always getting max 2 hrs SOT, everytime same set up of apps, including chrome from gapps.
Otherday i saw someone mentioning that getting rid of chrome and using firefox boosted battery life.
Guess what i did, got rid of chrome and installed firefox.
I am on Krexus and franco kernel and I am already seeing increased battery life, will update this thread with SOT and battery results as I get more hrs down, but thought may help other people.

I'm always saying that. Never use Chrome and Facebook app if you want long battery life.

khanjui said:
I'm always saying that. Never use Chrome and Facebook app if you want long battery life.
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Definitely comes down to app usage.
Some apps use hardly any battery and toss off SOT. Myself I'm at 50% running stock, stock kernel and xposed+GB and my SOT is just under 4hr
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I have just used Facebook through the browser for years. Their app is a battery hogging bloated mess.

I get 5hrs avg SOT on my S7. And i use facebook and Google Chrome alot. But with same usage i only get 2hrs30m max SOT on N5X. Why is that?

LinuxHolic said:
I get 5hrs avg SOT on my S7. And i use facebook and Google Chrome alot. But with same usage i only get 2hrs30m max SOT on N5X. Why is that?
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Different battery size, different chipsets, different screen types will be some of the main reasons.

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Different battery size, different chipsets, different screen types will be some of the main reasons.
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2700mAh vs 3000mAH is not much. But that much difference in SOT with almost same usage?! I think samsung's power management is better than stock Android. Galaxy S7's screen has more pixels than Nexus 5X but LED screen consumes less power also so that's a + point for S7.

Krazy_Calvin said:
I have just used Facebook through the browser for years. Their app is a battery hogging bloated mess.
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Or you can try Swipe for Facebook if you want. It has the messenger in the app as well. By far this is one of my favorite third party facebook apps of all time. Plus, the developer's support is awesome, it's very fast.

LinuxHolic said:
I get 5hrs avg SOT on my S7. And i use facebook and Google Chrome alot. But with same usage i only get 2hrs30m max SOT on N5X. Why is that?
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My experience is the opposite. The battery life of my 5X is twice as good my S7. Both stock with no root or tweaks of any kind.
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somilia said:
Or you can try Swipe for Facebook if you want. It has the messenger in the app as well. By far this is one of my favorite third party facebook apps of all time. Plus, the developer's support is awesome, it's very fast.
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I had no idea this existed, Installed, and loving it so far

I'm loving metal as a Facebook replacement. Firefox however i do not like, I'm just sticking with chrome.
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Switching out all the battery killers has been so great for me. Using Lighting/Speed browser and Face Slim, and I get way better battery life than I ever did.

PiousInquisitor said:
My experience is the opposite. The battery life of my 5X is twice as good my S7. Both stock with no root or tweaks of any kind.
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You're a lucky man then
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My experience is the opposite. The battery life of my 5X is twice as good my S7. Both stock with no root or tweaks of any kind.
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I have uninstalled Facebook and disabled chrome on my N5X and this is what i get
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You're a lucky man then
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I have uninstalled Facebook and disabled chrome on my N5X and this is what i get
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52 min SOT on 30% battery, i can achieve that easily with Facebook and chrome installed.
I never had any extensive battery usage with these apps but then again, i always disable notifications on the Facebook app.
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there is something wrong: on average with wifi coverage I get 1h os Sot every 20%...with bad 4G I get 40' every 20%

Pollie81 said:
i always disable notifications on the Facebook app.
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I do also
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N5X_ita said:
there is something wrong: on average with wifi coverage I get 1h os Sot every 20%...with bad 4G I get 40' every 20%
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I don't see what's wrong with this. Bad signal kills battery pretty quick. I have terrible signal at my work desk and the battery drains quickly.

Heat Problems, U.S. S7 Edge (G935a)

I have had my phone for a new months now and have noticed an incredible amount of heat. So I started to use CPU-Z to monitor temps.
When idle, the phone sits anywhere between 32-45 degrees C. Under load, using the camera, using navigation, or during gaming, I feel the phone rapidly gaining heat. I've seen it got as hot as 70-80 degrees C. A few times the right side of the phone gets so hot that the right aluminum edge feels like it could burn my hand if I touch it for longer than 30 seconds.
At first I thought this could be a firmware issue so I've factory reset the phone multiple times, cleared the cache, and done everything I can think of. The problem persists. Is this how all Snapdragon variant S7 Edges are, or is mine a lemon? If you could please post your idle temps and temps after 15-30 minutes of high load, I would be grateful.

Mine gets warm but never that hot. It is usually inside a case. I notice it gets the warmest under quick charging conditions.
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I have had my phone for a new months now and have noticed an incredible amount of heat. So I started to use CPU-Z to monitor temps.
When idle, the phone sits anywhere between 32-45 degrees C. Under load, using the camera, using navigation, or during gaming, I feel the phone rapidly gaining heat. I've seen it got as hot as 70-80 degrees C. A few times the right side of the phone gets so hot that the right aluminum edge feels like it could burn my hand if I touch it for longer than 30 seconds.
At first I thought this could be a firmware issue so I've factory reset the phone multiple times, cleared the cache, and done everything I can think of. The problem persists. Is this how all Snapdragon variant S7 Edges are, or is mine a lemon? If you could please post your idle temps and temps after 15-30 minutes of high load, I would be grateful.
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Honestly id get it checked out, seems dangerous for your phone in the long run

the_OZONE said:
I have had my phone for a new months now and have noticed an incredible amount of heat. So I started to use CPU-Z to monitor temps.
When idle, the phone sits anywhere between 32-45 degrees C. Under load, using the camera, using navigation, or during gaming, I feel the phone rapidly gaining heat. I've seen it got as hot as 70-80 degrees C. A few times the right side of the phone gets so hot that the right aluminum edge feels like it could burn my hand if I touch it for longer than 30 seconds.
At first I thought this could be a firmware issue so I've factory reset the phone multiple times, cleared the cache, and done everything I can think of. The problem persists. Is this how all Snapdragon variant S7 Edges are, or is mine a lemon? If you could please post your idle temps and temps after 15-30 minutes of high load, I would be grateful.
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Been gaming heavy in marvel champions for a few hours.. not having the problem you describe mate. I'd call Samsung.
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Been gaming heavy in marvel champions for a few hours.. not having the problem you describe mate. I'd call Samsung.
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First off thanks for the picture of your temps. But by the looks of it I probably have a lemon then :/. Is your phone the snapdragon variant or exynos? I'll be calling Samsung soon then.

Snapdragon
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Snapdragon
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Mine too it looks similar to your temp. What color do u have?
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Mine too it looks similar to your temp. What color do u have?
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Gold platinum
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Gold platinum
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Im try ling to narrow some things i know its highly not possible but just wanted to know.
I have silver and my friend has gold, we both have the same issue.
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Heres my screenshot just played clash of clans for 3 min

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Heres my screenshot just played clash of clans for 3 min
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Try wiping your cache partition.
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kokyleod said:
Try wiping your cache partition.
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Tried that, also reflashed the software
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Are you on engboot or stock fw?
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Are you on engboot or stock fw?
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I was on both but right now engboot. I was hoping debloating would help but still the same.
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I was in the same boat, root wasn't for me, this time, around since the phone got crazy hot. Half the time I couldn't receive calls unless I reboot the phone every few hours. Flashed back to stock and took the new wifi calling update and advanced messaging and the phone is working great now.

It's pretty common to be that hot with engboot it seems. See this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...-t3411039/post67605246?nocache=1#post67605246

Screen on time

It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Actually good, I thought it was going to be worse.
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Actually good, I thought it was going to be worse.
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Not good iff you compare with s8plus,

Huh... That's about the same as the Nexus 6p I guess. Not thrilled
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I can work with that...I usually turn off a lot of stuff I don't use and keep my screen at a brightness that I need, not want. I also disable apps that I don't use...this will be awesome

I actually read that wrong, that's much better than my 6p
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After applying Disable package
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Almost 7hrs screen on time at max brightness
https://youtu.be/WHqfE45oKU4

xdathekilljoy said:
Almost 7hrs screen on time at max brightness
https://youtu.be/WHqfE45oKU4
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Can't wait for it to launch
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Sorry was 4 am, missed the last post, sorry for duplicate. Couldn't figure out how to delete. https://youtu.be/rQqreS_LHd8

xdathekilljoy said:
Almost 7hrs screen on time at max brightness
https://youtu.be/WHqfE45oKU4
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Same here.....I got 6.5 hrs SOT today with highest resolution, screen brightness on auto and using it all day

ardeban said:
After applying Disable package
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After applying disable package? what is that?

After a couple of days, minimal packages disabled, Screen brightness average 75% (half the time 50, half at 100%), Resolution at Max, video enhance On, gps on a little, Hotspot on for about an hour, Bluetooth controller/mouse/keyboard on for about an hour. Pretty impressed! I'm going to disable LOTS tomorrow and see how much better I can get. One thing I noticed, I barely had AOD on today, but yesterday had like 8%, hope they can fix that. Nearly 10% of my battery for AOD is CRAZY!

This is my battery life today. Very impressed better than my note 7 and my LG V20.
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This is my battery life today. Very impressed better than my note 7 and my LG V20. View attachment 4267189View attachment 4267190
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I don't know what any of you paid users are talking about but GOD DAMN THIS BATTER DOES SUCK!!!! I HATE IT.... AND HERES PROOF[emoji35] [emoji35] [emoji35] [emoji35] screen brightness at auto, location and bluetooth off, with some wifi on every now and then....wtffff jesus
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Dear users, who has already the phone, please, give some details about the real battery life including the SOT.
Please note the processor type too.
Thanks a lot

Slicktune22 said:
I don't know what any of you paid users are talking about but GOD DAMN THIS BATTER DOES SUCK!!!! I HATE IT.... AND HERES PROOF[emoji35] [emoji35] [emoji35] [emoji35] screen brightness at auto, location and bluetooth off, with some wifi on every now and then....wtffff jesus
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Ha ha I am not paid. I really didn't think it would be this good. And I don't have the screen turned down about 85%. I turned off some apps from running in the background. My Bluetooth stays on all the time because I use it in my car and to get in my house. That was day 2 let's see how day 3 goes. I have never gotten this good of SOT on any phone. 3 to 5 at the best.
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patek said:
Dear users, who has already the phone, please, give some details about the real battery life including the SOT.
Please note the processor type too.
Thanks a lot
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That post was a true battery life and SOT. Full 2nd day.
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Dear Jason,
thanks

Ok this is day 3. I did not do anything different I did use Bluetooth a little more. Also I was driving around town a lot today.
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18hrs 4.5hrs SOT at 13%.