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I wonder if ppl are still using their F1/S200?
I'm currently stuck on my Samsung Omnia SGH-i900 because it's the only device that does 2 things that i need.
1) Torchbutton: to use the LED-flash as a LED-lamp. Currently mapped to the taskswitch-button.
2) Vito audio Notes touch can records phone-calls (automagically) even when the call is through a bluetooth headset.
I wonder can the F1 do the same?
Is there a program to use the LED-flash as a lamp
and does vito audio notes touch work to record calls? Perhaps someone can try this out for me (there's a demo to download on Vito's website or PM me)
I also wonder how's the camera? And are the latest ROM's any improvement on call quality (I hear it's not very good on the acer)?
Just a few questions. I ask this because the HTC Desire (which i wanted first) has no incall-recording whatsoever). Froyo-ROM's have a function to use the LED as a lamp though. And I tried an Omnia II (GT-i8000) and Vito Audio notes touch doesn't record calls (or wm notes for that matter). The only other alternative is to go for a Nokia Symbian device X6 or 5800 but that's a step backwards imho.
thanks in advance for the answers
Hi,
I try Torch button (v2.2) recently but it doesn't work on F1 with the actual driver on Arto's ROM. I get an Error Message : "Couldn't detect a supported device, exiting...". I'm interested if someone success to make it work, (also by use the flashlight to signal messages when phone is placed on the side of the screen, I know there is an HTC app to do this, but doesn't work on my phone).
I havn't test any call recorder.
The camera is not so good (disapointing for a 5M pixels), but for a phone it stay 'correct'.
Hope this helps
hey, the user stephano released a little program to use your led as flashlight.
I cant say much to vito audio recorder app,never used it, and dont have time to test it atm.
Regarding the camera, you re going two or ten steps back concerning quality if you compare acer neotouch vs samsung omnia. Acers camera quality is poo comparing it to the omnia. i owned a omnia before the neotouch and believe me i was very disappointed about the lack of features and very bad picture quality unless the light conditions are perfect.
On the other hand, the neotouch is indredibly fast, it has a hotswitch microsd slot, an audio jack. and a wvga resolution That were the things i ve missed on the i900
If you can stand the bad camera quality, the neotouch might be worth a try
Concerning the call quality, it's actually pretty good. It doesnt have a second mic to supress the background noise but i encounter the call quality as quite decent
the camera sux. no matter what rom u are using.
video camera sux too...
riotman said:
hey, the user stephano released a little program to use your led as flashlight.
I cant say much to vito audio recorder app,never used it, and dont have time to test it atm.
Regarding the camera, you re going two or ten steps back concerning quality if you compare acer neotouch vs samsung omnia. Acers camera quality is poo comparing it to the omnia. i owned a omnia before the neotouch and believe me i was very disappointed about the lack of features and very bad picture quality unless the light conditions are perfect.
On the other hand, the neotouch is indredibly fast, it has a hotswitch microsd slot, an audio jack. and a wvga resolution That were the things i ve missed on the i900
If you can stand the bad camera quality, the neotouch might be worth a try
Concerning the call quality, it's actually pretty good. It doesnt have a second mic to supress the background noise but i encounter the call quality as quite decent
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Also coming from I900 OMNIA...Totally agree!
Yes, forgetting the neotouch even has a camera is probably the best way to approach things, it has impressive speed and a great resistive screen, good call quality, great wifi reception, and an incredibly worthless camera
Acer F1 incall-recording
OK. According to http://pocketnow.com/review/acer-neotouch-s200-f1
The neotouch has native incall-recoring. Can anyone confirm this? And has anyone tried Vito's audionotes touch or Resco's audio recoring with incall-recording enabled? There's a demo on either website to try before you buy. I already bought it and would like to (keep) using it.
I asked if I could try it in a shop nearby but the gent wouldn't let me do it :-(
I already bought and returned a Samsung Omnia II because it didn't work (neither did iGo navigation but that's a different matter).
I have found Stefano's torchlight program so I presume this is solved. He kindly sent it to me and referenced me to his (italia) website. (Thanks Stefano).
So my options are this:
1) look for a second hand i900 (which I know everything I have works on)
2) Get a cheap Nokia C6 (i have an 2-way incall-recorder program for it and a program that can use the flash as led. I tried them on an X6 and 5230 so I think they'l work on this one too.
3) get this Acer F1 (which cost about the same as the Nokia C6). I have the software that I need, I'm unsure if they'll work. It seems to have a worse camera than the above models.
4) Get a second hand HTC HD2. These cost second hand about the same as a new Acer F1. There's a patch that allow 2-way incallrecording and I've a torchlight program.
5) Get a SE featurephone with LED lamp. They can use it as a torch and SE-phones have 2-way callrecording build in (just as Nokia featurephones).
6) forget all this and get an HTC Desire android phone (froyo has a torchlight app build in). There's no call-recording possible on the desire for now.
What shold I do?
The reason I can't keep using my Omnia 1 is because the metal frame (topside around the digitiser) is cracking open. I fear that soon the screen will break in two. Then it'll be over. But since I'm reluctant to spend yet another +400 euro's on a phone and then discovering things don't work as intended (as with the Omnia2). I ask this.
Anyway thanks in advance if anyone test these apps out. You can also PM me and I can sent you the program to test it for me?
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And has anyone tried Vito's audionotes touch or Resco's audio recoring with incall-recording enabled? There's a demo on either website to try before you buy. I already bought it and would like to (keep) using it.
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Yes, i have Vito´s Audiotones and the incall-recording is very functioning, in both ways and also over the loudspeakers. You can also map one of the three Acer Hardkeys for starting the incall-recording with Vito´s Audiotones.
Took the plunge
OK fella's
After my bluetooth headset wouldn't function on my omnia anymore I sped up my decisions. I finally took the plunge and went for the Acer F1. It's about the same price as a Nokia C6 and (from the intel gathered here 2way call-recording works on the F1).
My first impressions so far.
It looks nice. I haven't removed the stickers (yet) as I might return it if it doesn't work as wanted. The screen is very nice (for an TFT) and responds very well. Much better than the Omnia 1 (which is famous for its awfull screen). The device is notably snappy even with a screen resolution 4x times as high as on the Omnia. Other good things. It uses mini-usb to charge (though not every mini-usb cable can be used as I have discovered) and a separate audio-jack (unlike the omnia). So you can both charge and use the headphones, great. The FM radio seems to work without headphones plugged it?! The first time that I have seen this. The Acer dialer has NATIVE call recording. This is also the first I've seen on WM especially in such a userfriendly and logical way... right on the call-screen
Then there's the bad things.
The sound although good in quality, is very quiet compared to my Omnia. I admit that I tweaked that Omnia with some inbuild program. If ppl want to fiddle with that little program, I've included it as attachment. I strongly doubt it'll be of any use but it does seem to start-up. The camera is notoriously bad as everyone in here as already mentioned (compared to the omnia). Speakerphone is too low to be of any use. This unfortunately defies the use of that one program that I require (audio notes) to record calls since you can't properly hear them afterwards. Although the headphone-jack is on the right place (on mid-top) it's also too quiet to be of any use :-(.
Other things that I discovered when installing and using some software. I've installed SPB Mobile Shell (tried both 3.5.4 and 3.5.5) but whenever exit the camera-software, SPB MS returns in "change layout" mode (with the last widget, used before opening the cam-software, ready for removal or changing). I tried with both the cam-software in rom (3.003c) and Xakep TURBO camera to no avail. Very annoying. At one point I couldn't remove "Getting started" from today screen (WM Standard). But eventually I did manage to remove it (though I still have no idea what I prior did to make it happen. Again I tought this was due to SPB Mobile shell but since I could eventually remove it (while MS was running) it must have been something else. As of now, (after fooling around with Coreplayer, SPB Mobile shell, Vito's audio notes touch, a few games and utilities) whenver I use WM Standard today screen and try to open a picture (which gets neatly displayed on the pictures bar) it gives an error (file-associations seem to be ****ed up along the way). Again a minor hassle (like the "getting started" that wouldn't go away) but a hassle nonetheless :-(
Apart from the lousy camera (which i expected) and the low audio volume (which I didn't expect) this devices fares quite well. It definitly needs some kind of invisible shield (or other protection) for exterior protection as the shiny cover easily gets dirty. I haven't yet decided whether I'll keep it. If the audio was better then I could have used it as a small PMP but because of the low volume (even with headphones)... The speed and great screen considering its price are its main strenghts.
Included is the Omnia's Soundtester-program that Omnians use to tweak their handsets audio volume (by quite a bit I might say). I compared my omnia (before sending in for repair) to the Acer and the Omnia is not only much louder. The inbuild speaker produced better quality as well while playing this loud. I boosted volume with Coreplayer on mediafiles but it never matches the Omnia without distoring the sound. headphone output on the omnia is allmost on par as on my ancient iPod 60GB (this thing kills your ears definitly!) while the acer is no-more than whispering compared to both. Oddly enough call-quality wasn't so bad at all. Call-volume was reasonable (even in populated environments).
Thanks for the ppl who helped me out with regards to incall recording (the prime reason for sticking with WM) and to Steff (with info on his Torch program).
regards,
EPDM2BE
epdm2be said:
OK fella's
After my bluetooth headset wouldn't function on my omnia anymore I sped up my decisions. I finally took the plunge and went for the Acer F1. It's about the same price as a Nokia C6 and (from the intel gathered here 2way call-recording works on the F1).
My first impressions so far.
It looks nice. I haven't removed the stickers (yet) as I might return it if it doesn't work as wanted. The screen is very nice (for an TFT) and responds very well. Much better than the Omnia 1 (which is famous for its awfull screen). The device is notably snappy even with a screen resolution 4x times as high as on the Omnia. Other good things. It uses mini-usb to charge (though not every mini-usb cable can be used as I have discovered) and a separate audio-jack (unlike the omnia). So you can both charge and use the headphones, great. The FM radio seems to work without headphones plugged it?! The first time that I have seen this. The Acer dialer has NATIVE call recording. This is also the first I've seen on WM especially in such a userfriendly and logical way... right on the call-screen
Then there's the bad things.
The sound although good in quality, is very quiet compared to my Omnia. I admit that I tweaked that Omnia with some inbuild program. If ppl want to fiddle with that little program, I've included it as attachment. I strongly doubt it'll be of any use but it does seem to start-up. The camera is notoriously bad as everyone in here as already mentioned (compared to the omnia). Speakerphone is too low to be of any use. This unfortunately defies the use of that one program that I require (audio notes) to record calls since you can't properly hear them afterwards. Although the headphone-jack is on the right place (on mid-top) it's also too quiet to be of any use :-(.
Other things that I discovered when installing and using some software. I've installed SPB Mobile Shell (tried both 3.5.4 and 3.5.5) but whenever exit the camera-software, SPB MS returns in "change layout" mode (with the last widget, used before opening the cam-software, ready for removal or changing). I tried with both the cam-software in rom (3.003c) and Xakep TURBO camera to no avail. Very annoying. At one point I couldn't remove "Getting started" from today screen (WM Standard). But eventually I did manage to remove it (though I still have no idea what I prior did to make it happen. Again I tought this was due to SPB Mobile shell but since I could eventually remove it (while MS was running) it must have been something else. As of now, (after fooling around with Coreplayer, SPB Mobile shell, Vito's audio notes touch, a few games and utilities) whenver I use WM Standard today screen and try to open a picture (which gets neatly displayed on the pictures bar) it gives an error (file-associations seem to be ****ed up along the way). Again a minor hassle (like the "getting started" that wouldn't go away) but a hassle nonetheless :-(
Apart from the lousy camera (which i expected) and the low audio volume (which I didn't expect) this devices fares quite well. It definitly needs some kind of invisible shield (or other protection) for exterior protection as the shiny cover easily gets dirty. I haven't yet decided whether I'll keep it. If the audio was better then I could have used it as a small PMP but because of the low volume (even with headphones)... The speed and great screen considering its price are its main strenghts.
Included is the Omnia's Soundtester-program that Omnians use to tweak their handsets audio volume (by quite a bit I might say). I compared my omnia (before sending in for repair) to the Acer and the Omnia is not only much louder. The inbuild speaker produced better quality as well while playing this loud. I boosted volume with Coreplayer on mediafiles but it never matches the Omnia without distoring the sound. headphone output on the omnia is allmost on par as on my ancient iPod 60GB (this thing kills your ears definitly!) while the acer is no-more than whispering compared to both. Oddly enough call-quality wasn't so bad at all. Call-volume was reasonable (even in populated environments).
Thanks for the ppl who helped me out with regards to incall recording (the prime reason for sticking with WM) and to Steff (with info on his Torch program).
regards,
EPDM2BE
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Install one of my ROM's - Manila or Clean, they have enhanced Audio with SRS WOW HD drivers. Your Sound will be much better, louder and over the headphones you will get better sound quality.
Yeah, like description says: That "new" noise from backspeaker is full of junk. I've tried a few different players and equalizers with no luck (And it feels like that overall quality of sound from phone is lowered from what it's used to be)
Is there anything that we can/could do to improve of the quality of sound?
also experiencing that
Got an idea: is it possible to use old sound"driver" to get back better sound to backspeaker?
I don't get it, why Huawei didn't put any options to backspeaker...
Also very silent in calls sound
Trying to find solution to this
Lets bump this thread.
So, I've found "solution" to our problem:
First, install Equalizer from Play Market. It works simple: after you have set your equalizer and want to enable it, press home-button. If you don't want to enable it, press back. There is that "legendary" 5-band equalizer (yes, there is also bassboost and virtualizer, but the main point is at the equalizer). You can adjust it until it fits to your ears Just to mind you, the first one is bass, and the last treble (from up to down). Those three which are in middle, are for middle sounds (obvious, really ).
That should fix the sound quality of a backspeaker.
For example, my settings:
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I suppose the problem exists for all 5.0.2 versions that have been released so far. Obviously I didn’t check all of them by myself, only the versions without operator customization (Central Europe, Nordic Combined, etc.).
The usage of headphones profiles in the sound settings is impossible. Those profiles shift automatically (I guess they reset to the general profile) while changing a track (I noticed this doesn’t happen always and what is most odd, always when I come back to the previous track, the profile resets) doesn’t matter if I’m using Walkman, Spotify or Deezer. Additionally, when I choose a random profile, its settings is random as well (for example settings for MH1C is not always available under MH1C, it changes randomly during such reset) it’s hearable when changing a profile while listening to some track. It’s a total mess.
The other thing is a bug in system keyboard. Probably it’s a matter of the language chosen (I chose polish)- didn’t check that though. When the keyboard is extended and I click on a word which I want to edit, the cursor moves to the end of the word, and it’s necessary to tap on the word again to cause the cursor stay where I want it. Is this a new functionality of Lollipop? It didn’t appear in KitKat.
Do you have some suggestions how those issues. Is somebody going to report them to Sony? Maybe some version that isn’t affected.
If you have Root, installing Viper should eliminate this.
No, I do not use root, and I think I do not need it.
But this is a workaround. I think, that stock music settings are great so I want to use it on LP too, not only on KK. I love LP design, functionality and all of it features. Now I must use KK again cause of this stupid problems...
Someone noticed this issues? On Z3C, or Z3?
Maybe some root workaround, without installing other music settings?
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The usage of headphones profiles in the sound settings is impossible. Those profiles shift automatically (I guess they reset to the general profile) while changing a track (I noticed this doesn’t happen always and what is most odd, always when I come back to the previous track, the profile resets) doesn’t matter if I’m using Walkman, Spotify or Deezer. Additionally, when I choose a random profile, its settings is random as well (for example settings for MH1C is not always available under MH1C, it changes randomly during such reset) it’s hearable when changing a profile while listening to some track. It’s a total mess.
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You are right, I noticed this issue too. Profile switching is inconsistent. Also, audio effects aren't applied automatically on tracks, you need to disable-reenabled them in Sound Effects menu, and do that for each new track (not always, like you said). The Sony SW Audio Effects are basically broken.
So what we can do with it? I really want to use Lollipop again, but I need music app and sound quality working flawless to be satisfied.... Maybe some root solution? Someone, please?
Also this is strange that there are only two of us, who cares about this issue. On the biggest android forum in the world... Sony Z3C audio quality is superb - I does not believe that there are no persons who uses their phones to listen music in great audio quality... I don't want to change my earphones only because it is not playing as good as it should on general audio settings. XBA-3 are great and sounds brilliant on MH1C profile. So I NEED IT to work on Lollipop!
Where are you, guys? Any support is needed asap!
I have an MH1c and the profile is useless for me now :'(
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I recognize the edit issueon my lollipop. When placing the cursor in the middle of a word, it jumps to the end when you start typing. Very annoying :|
I don't use headphones profiles, so can't help in this regard.
Checked the edit function. First - it's specific to the system keyboard, second - it has a very consistent behavior, which leads me to believe that it's not a bug, but a feature. First press on the word is not for editing it, but rather for replacing it from a set of auto-completion options shown when you type - the same set shows up when you press the word after it's already typed. The second press is getting you to editing the word letter-by-letter. I've tried changing the autocorrect options, and when auto-completion suggestions are completely disabled - this feature is disabled too.
It can actually be useful in its current form, though I can definitely understand the need to have a switch to get it disabled without disabling auto-completion suggestions.
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I don't use headphones profiles, so can't help in this regard.
Checked the edit function. First - it's specific to the system keyboard, second - it has a very consistent behavior, which leads me to believe that it's not a bug, but a feature. First press on the word is not for editing it, but rather for replacing it from a set of auto-completion options shown when you type - the same set shows up when you press the word after it's already typed. The second press is getting you to editing the word letter-by-letter. I've tried changing the autocorrect options, and when auto-completion suggestions are completely disabled - this feature is disabled too.
It can actually be useful in its current form, though I can definitely understand the need to have a switch to get it disabled without disabling auto-completion suggestions.
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You mean feature of Xperia Keybord on Lollipop? Lollipop has different version of keyboard than KitKat? Can someone check this? On KK I've got 6.4.A.1.54 Xperia Keyboard. I am curious, if there is different version of keyboard on LP - is there a possibility to install keyboard from KK (without root) and will "the bug" still be present?
This thing - as a "feature" - is something doesn't make sense. On KK you can also change typed word to other from suggestions and - at the same time - you can edit if from where you tap it. Why the hell user has to touch the word again?
Not sure why, but I don't use a system keyboard - I use Smart Keyboard Pro. This "feature" isn't a part of the OS - it only happens when working with Xperia keyboard, with a custom keyboard it isn't happening.
x X x said:
So what we can do with it? I really want to use Lollipop again, but I need music app and sound quality working flawless to be satisfied.... Maybe some root solution? Someone, please?
Also this is strange that there are only two of us, who cares about this issue. On the biggest android forum in the world... Sony Z3C audio quality is superb - I does not believe that there are no persons who uses their phones to listen music in great audio quality... I don't want to change my earphones only because it is not playing as good as it should on general audio settings. XBA-3 are great and sounds brilliant on MH1C profile. So I NEED IT to work on Lollipop!
Where are you, guys? Any support is needed asap!
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While I agree with you that this is an issue, and if they have the functionality available it SHOULD be working as intended...
If you care about audio fidelity so much, you shouldn't be using an equalizer in the first place, you should buy good headphones, that have been correctly tuned -- either to produce the correct sound or to produce the frequency response you most like. On the fly software equalization is never the answer.
Most people don't care about the issue so much, and audiophiles will have the correct equipment. That's why no one else seems upset at this.
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As for the keyboard, it is most certainly the way sony designed this new keyboard to work. It's not an defect, it's how it works. Try google keyboard, swiftkey, fleksy. I've used all of they and any one is far superior to the xperia keyboard -- the beauty of android is that you can customize what you don't like.
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While I agree with you that this is an issue, and if they have the functionality available it SHOULD be working as intended...
If you care about audio fidelity so much, you shouldn't be using an equalizer in the first place, you should buy good headphones, that have been correctly tuned -- either to produce the correct sound or to produce the frequency response you most like. On the fly software equalization is never the answer.
Most people don't care about the issue so much, and audiophiles will have the correct equipment. That's why no one else seems upset at this.
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Believe me, I am know what I am doing and what I am using.
My headphones works good with Z3C on general profile and without any equalizations (by the way, Z3C has great audio quality, very simillar to eg. Sony ZX1 or Sony A15 audio players). But with MH1C profile works greater than good - it is sounds excellent. This is not an equipment issue thread.
No Xloud, Decreased overall loudness/Volumes.
I am also getting Sound Problems after the Lollipop Update.
1. The Xloud Feature has disappeared from the sound settings and playing music through internal speakers is so terrible, makes sound like coming from a very cheap phone.
2. The loudness has decreased a lot now. I think that Sony have changed the volume levels. I remember that in kitkat volume at lvl 1 was high enough to be audible easily and at max volume, it was pretty high, but now the volume at the minimum level is barely heard even through headpones. The sound i am getting now at max level in LP was at a level less volume in KK.
3. Yes, there is headphones selection problem now in LP, but you can just get the type of sound you need be selecting different ones. For example, if you want to listen to sound for Noice Cancellation headphones, then select those and then select any other to get the NC sound exactly same which came in KitKat firmware. The fact is that you will get the audio type which headphones you have selected previously.
Rest I am not getting any major issue.
even my friend who has xperia Z2 have same problems. I think Sony have used same basics for all lollipop updates.
If the stock eq isn't behaving, replace it with Viper:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191223
No, there is no problem with equaliser. Is there something to increase volume level.
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I added a thread about audio issues on Sony official support forum, available there:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Software-Updates/Z3-Compact-5-0-2-Lollipop-headphone-profiles-and-music-settings/m-p/982108#U982108
mangatparamveer said:
No, there is no problem with equaliser. Is there something to increase volume level.
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Viper can up volume, as well. It's not as good as a dedicated headphone/dac would be, but it definitely does the job.
mangatparamveer said:
I am also getting Sound Problems after the Lollipop Update.
3. Yes, there is headphones selection problem now in LP, but you can just get the type of sound you need be selecting different ones. For example, if you want to listen to sound for Noice Cancellation headphones, then select those and then select any other to get the NC sound exactly same which came in KitKat firmware. The fact is that you will get the audio type which headphones you have selected previously.
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You mean, that If I chose MH1c profile, change it to another and save settings (go back) - while listening music it will automatically change back to MH1c setting? Not some random profile, or general profile?
The selection does not change, but the sound becomes as that of general headphones profile. I have even updated firmware to 23.1.A.1.28 but still all tge sound issues are there. Maybe in future firmware they will fix it.
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Meh, all hope is gone....
I assume is there a way to manualy get similar to MH1C sound using only equalizer...
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Will 3G data work in the USA with this S82 Watch?
This is the first time ever I have seen this on a watch:
Band 2G: networks GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz. Band 3G: WCDMA 2100/850/1900 MHz
That's straight from the specs. Other forums have indicated at&t operates the WCDMA connectivity on 1900 MHz. If that's true, will this watch support the higher data rate in the USA with at&t as the carrier? Has anyone tested this out to REALLY verify it?
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Hmmmm this seems nice
I was going to get the S8 but this seems better.
Any one got one yet?
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Hmmmm this seems nice
I was going to get the S8 but this seems better.
Any one got one yet?
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Hey I have Both I literally just got the S82 today and I like the look of the S8 better!!!
The functionality is also easier on the S8, but don't take my word for it because i have only had it for one day!!!
I think that the S82 is better for extra memory, removable battery, and the screen resolution looks better. Nothing else really stands out to me!!!
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I got it on 30 June.
I assess its more like a toy than a complete replacement. And, oh yes, I have it in my hands and lying on the table, constantly wearing on his arm until he tried.
*Now, about the shortcomings.
*According to the manufacturer's website battery capacity of 700 mAh. In my copy of 500 mAh. On eBay, there are two types of battery: Model 463232 - 500 mAh and Model 452547 700 mAh. In my case, 500 mAh. I saw information about other models of batteries for other models zgpax there some sort of confusion: on one battery write 700 mAh, and the description thereto - 500 mAh . So I do not know whether to trust these figures.
*On the manufacturer's website said the three sub-screen buttons. But realistically, only one button - the "return". I researched and found out that some programs will replace the missing "Menu" button if you can hold the left edge of the screen to the right. But what to replace the central button "Home" do not know. As it is often required to go to the menu Settings, or running programs long press "Home" and then come back. Have to press "Return" to close the program, change anything in settings, and then re-run the program (if the program is full screen and can not see the top of the bar to quickly setting). Without these keys very uncomfortable. Maybe something I do not know, this is my first watch and learn on their own.
*Hours of course small, just can not say. I have a habit of more smartphones to turn off all wireless, you do not need at the moment and close the program. In these hours, I installed the program iBattery, which in sleep mode disables the wireless and dampens background processes. After switching on again% battery charge varies little, even if, for example, it took half a day. But at the same time you will not run programs that have something to work online. The program has a setting that can be turned off in sleep mode.
*More about the battery life. The battery is discharged relatively evenly (if one can say so), but when it was less than 40%, then quickly, before our eyes discharged. The truth is when I used about two days sometimes including watches. But keep in mind that the number of% charge can be deceptive and the battery is discharged very quickly (just drop into the abyss).
*Another unpleasant surprise was the background noise when recording microphone. Maybe it's just me, I do not know. But when the recorded video with the sound recorder and recorded, it appeared on the record very noticeable background. I do not know how it connects the microphone to the motherboard, do not understand, but it is very unpleasant. Call off the clock I did not try, not tested.
*Level wi-fi signal is weaker than the big smartphone at the same distance. But it works. Just worked bluetoth headset for external headphones - check the music, I did not try to call, do not use.
*GPS works. It just seems that the signal strength is weakened if the watch is worn on the arm. Remove the watch seems to be better. Quickly picked up by satellites if the program updated AGPS. Without this long.
*The standard keyboard is very small. You can try MessagEase keyboard, but get used to it and adjust.
*The font size in Settings better expose the fine.
*If the program is some kind of advertising, in contrast to a large smartphone, where a small advertising bar at the bottom, then the clock it can take almost half of the screen. Even if you run without wireless networks, then this place will be empty.
*Built launcher scrolls like that tight. Sometimes you have to move a little in the opposite direction, and then to the right - then scrolls.
*He tried to pick up, but it is not found launcher without advertising, to have more icons on one screen, and not to open the folder. I use the built.
*The camera shoots course is not very good. Yet it is fair 2 megaPixel. I've seen pictures on the internet made similar clocks supposedly 5 megaPixel, but there was just awful interpolation, feeling that took the sensor ~ 0,3 megaPixel and greatly interpolated to 5. So that the camera in my watch but not much, but still the better. It's funny that in the program Open Camera video settings have much higher resolution of the real, but the video still will remove 864 * 480. In this program the default quality jpeg 90%, 100%, I found, though subjectively the difference is not obvious.The camera is in such hours not to create photographic masterpieces , and if with nothing for normal shooting, and it is necessary to capture all costs (eg price tags in the store .
*Incidentally, the level sensors do not work properly in hours. It seemed to me that the navigation program where the compass shows when you hold not horizontally, but vertically. Also, if in the Open Camera to include stability augmentation, the picture will be cut off and inclined. A program interface is inverted 180 degrees, tilt and if by yourself, then become normal. This indicates improper calibration of the sensors. Perhaps there are programs where possible to set up, I do not know.
*What else to add? The exterior design is closer to the classic clock. The camera on the right side a bit like winding mechanical watches. Buttons on the left side - less likelihood press chamber as in the other clock, where all with one hand. Hours unprotected battery is built into the rear cover and remove easily without loosening the screws. Access to the SIM card and the card slot light. Stuck Card Transcend 32Gb UHS-I TS32GUSDU1 - works .
*By the way, when buying was no information on the headphones. Came parcel included microUSB appeared headphones. The firmware has a FM-station. Connected to test - runs.
*On the screen at the plant was glued film, glossy, uneven, it is necessary to tear off the top layer №2. But under the film had a lot of bubbles and dust particles. I tried to clean up and re-stick, it became better, but 2-3 motes remained
*Figured screen size ~ 38 * 41 mm. Of similar size saw glass sony smartwatch, but there are size 39,2 * 39,2 mm. So it goes a little wider. I do not know whether the glass is carefully grind, to come in width.
There is only one plus for the S82, the better battery:
According to the manufacturer's website battery capacity of 700 mAh. In my copy of 500 mAh.
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Very bad, like all available chinese watch phones. My EC309 has a 560 mAh battery, on the website 600 mAh.
When can we get a good one? I would pay 500 €, but only crap is available.
smartwatchticks said:
This is the first time ever I have seen this on a watch:
Band 2G: networks GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz. Band 3G: WCDMA 2100/850/1900 MHz
That's straight from the specs. Other forums have indicated at&t operates the WCDMA connectivity on 1900 MHz. If that's true, will this watch support the higher data rate in the USA with at&t as the carrier? Has anyone tested this out to REALLY verify it?
Thanks.
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Just got the watch. I can confirm that it works 3G on AT&T network. The only pluses for this watch vs. the S8 is that U.S. customers will be able to access 3G on both AT&T and T mobile, and can easily swap memory cards. The battery is 500mah, not 700mah as advertised by the manufacturer and several websites. The watch is very thick and clunky. The position of the camera is difficult to take photos while wearing the watch. There is no home button, just a back button. Touchscreen response is poor at times. Speaker volume is quite loud.
FM radio works with included microusb headphones. Battery is attached to back cover. The battery/cover unit can be easily removed to access the SIM card slot and TF card slot. If you install a launcher like nova launcher, the notifications panel at the top disappears. Google Playstore works. Bluetooth pairing to keyboard and headset works fine. About 1.2 GB memory for apps, like the S8. If you don't live in the U.S. and don't need a lot of storage memory, stick with the S8.
I've put the S82 aside for now and have gone back to my Aplus GV18. I may be returning the S82 as I am in a dispute with the seller about falsely advertising a 700mah battery.
Examples photo Open Camera
kravmama1 said:
Just got the watch. I can confirm that it works 3G on AT&T network. The only pluses for this watch vs. the S8 is that U.S. customers will be able to access 3G on both AT&T and T mobile, and can easily swap memory cards. The battery is 500mah, not 700mah as advertised by the manufacturer and several websites. The watch is very thick and clunky. The position of the camera is difficult to take photos while wearing the watch. There is no home button, just a back button. Touchscreen response is poor at times. Speaker volume is quite loud.
FM radio works with included microusb headphones. Battery is attached to back cover. The battery/cover unit can be easily removed to access the SIM card slot and TF card slot. If you install a launcher like nova launcher, the notifications panel at the top disappears. Google Playstore works. Bluetooth pairing to keyboard and headset works fine. About 1.2 GB memory for apps, like the S8. If you don't live in the U.S. and don't need a lot of storage memory, stick with the S8.
I've put the S82 aside for now and have gone back to my Aplus GV18. I may be returning the S82 as I am in a dispute with the seller about falsely advertising a 700mah battery.
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Good review!!
XG3002 said:
Examples photo Open Camera
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Photos from working watch?
Attached some outdoor and indoor photos from my watch camera. No alteration.
kravmama1 said:
Attached some outdoor and indoor photos from my watch camera. No alteration.
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do you has pictures from watch?
Attached are photos of the watch. I have tested GPS. Works fine outdoors. Difficulties finding position indoors. Battery goes from 40% to 14% quickly. This is my first day of heavy use. I think that it is because the battery is not calibrated yet. Should improve over the next few days. Heavy use and screen on time today of 4-5 hours. Includes downloading some apps, using GPS, taking photos, watching a little YouTube and playing with various settings, wallpapers, etc. Gets a little warm but not hot. Do not notice warmth when on wrist, only when holding in hand. Touch screen response getting a little better with continued use. Still frustrated with the watch, but getting better as I find apps to get around its shortcomings.
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Yes, it's a photo with working watch.
Photo of nature - individual blades of grass,twigs of trees , leaves are noticeably better compression quality jpeg.
I set the program Open Camera because more options in comparison with the firmware.
In my copy of the image on the clock in the corners of the photo looks blurry and darker.
It did not work to upload a video of 20 MB.
Tell me please, what quality audio recording?
In my copy of the recording sound is very strong background noise.
And you checked the phone call - as an interlocutor hears you?
XG3002 said:
Tell me please, what quality audio recording?
In my copy of the recording sound is very strong background noise.
And you checked the phone call - as an interlocutor hears you?
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Call quality: If cell signal is poor, then difficult to make calls because voice drops on both sides. The cellular antenna on the S82 is weaker than my $25 GV18. So tested at place with good cell signal. Speaker volume is loud for music play, but is not as loud for phone calls. Would be difficult to hear in noisy room. Using watch microphone, there is some voice distortion, but can still understand. When paired with bluetooth headset the volume is loud - easy to hear other party, also other party can hear my voice clearly. For making phone calls, best to use bluetooth headset. Also, need to make sure you use carrier with strong signal in your area or you won't be able to make calls.
Using voice recorder with both the watch microphone and bluetooth headset, I did hear some background noise, but not strong. There was no background noise during phone calls.
I had to download a messaging app from Play Store in order to text. The phone messaging app did not work out of the box.
One plus of the S82 is the rubber cover over the microusb port that prevents things from getting in. I understand that the S8 microusb port is open. There is a screen protector pre-installed. Good screen visibility in sunlight. The screen on uses up most battery, so turn screen to lowest setting when indorrs to save battery. note that the speaker hole is on the watchband itself as are the antennas.
Will update in future post with some apps that may be useful to make watch more usable. There is now a YouTube video of the watch from an owner. I am new to this forum so am unable to post a direct link. Just search ZGPAX S82 on YouTube. It is posted by Morry.
I'm am sure the device could be made better after root, but I am not knowledgeable enough to be comfortable with trying to root it.
https://youtu.be/xQjm4midRHI
Will this work through bluetooth to a phone, or is it stand alone only.
Thanks
You can use a program like SWApp Link for companion functions.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2740033
rooting s82
Anybody know how to root the zgpax s82 also known as Alps H18.
Thanks in advance.
How about a thread on possible SW enhancements through future FW updates? IDK if it matters, but we could try.
Here's my list, but please add whatever SW issues/bugs you've run into.
1. They should put 'microphone noise suppression' back to call settings. My HK Z3+ doesn't have it, but my Taiwanese Z2 does. I'm using those in the US, but I can ask for it on behalf of HK folks anyway
2. Occasional high 'mobile radio active' numbers on 4G (LTE) mostly from Google apps . My fix was to 'close all apps' once in a while. It's a known lollipop issue (Thanks @addicted1900)
3. Current 8mp auto mode is great for low-light shots. I'd say it's probably the best one in Androidland. Day shots could use a 16mp auto mode, but that will probably ruin current 8mp mode's low noise advantage with excessive noise. So it'd be great if they could adjust the resolution on the fly with some extra settings (like dynamic resolution, always 16mp/20mp, always 8mp,etc). Or at least include a separate high res auto mode (it'd be confusing - I know)
4. Auto mode could use a little lower EV while shooting at bright objects.
5. I used 'trepn' to profile core usage (& assuming trepn itself is not a CPU hog)
Home screen: All 4 little (a53) cores running at max 1.56 GHz most of the times with occasional bursts from 1/2 big (a57) cores. Sounds like an overkill
Settings page: Ditto
Camera (superior auto for photo only): Ditto
Fun fact: Only little cores run the 4K show. Something could be done there too
Point is there is room for improvement & going by Sony's fw update history (their fw updates are quite solid, btw), we could ask for the same thing here
Adaptive light puts screen backlight too low in dark environments.
I wish it could get dimmer at night in fully dark rooms
When Stamina mode is on ( with extended usage enabled), The decreasing of framerate is noticeably. (Never happened to my Z1)
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When Stamina mode is on ( with extended usage enabled), The decreasing of framerate is noticeably. (Never happened to my Z1)
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Well, you know that's the way "extended usage" is meant to work?
Yeah but as I said , it doesn't happen to my Z1 , which is 3 generations older.
Profile mode for high, medium and low performance.
Given the performance of sd810, I don mind a under clocked sd 810 for better performance. Just like how one plus is doing
When recording video I'd like the option to defeat noise cancellation/DSP and record 'flat'. Or tweak it somehow. Right now my Z2 records generally better audio on video than my Z3+ .... the Z3+ doesn't seem to record with much gain either, when it's supposed to be autogain - can't believe it needs that much headroom.
Plug in the STM10 (or a Smartlav+ ) and thankfully audio is very much improved - but I don't always have those with me.
I'm sure the speakers can go louder for ringtones, again seems quieter than my Z2 by maybe 3dB or 6dB perhaps (haven't measured, but human ear generally sensitive to 3dB differences).
Really pleased on the Z3+ things like Lifelog and Social are uninstallable, even PlayStation and PSN apps come off without root (could not be removed from Z2). I really like the direction of optional bloatware.
I don't know how broad Sony's Backup vault is, but I'd like to be able to backup/restore custom ringtones and SMS/hangout notifications for my contacts. This is one area where iPhone excels - restore to a new iPhone and pretty much everything remains identical. I don't want to have to futz with NFC locally when it could all already be stored in the cloud.
Overall, I am very satisfied with the Z3+ ... but I warn Sony, if they start going all proprietary again (eg all that ATRAC nonsense, can't even play a video from a standard USB stick on my Dad's Bravia TV, etc) -- then I will leave as quickly as I arrived
Another one for my wish list - a quick way to add Reminders by voice input - perhaps add the option to the long-press power button menu. (I know I think there is an option to always have Google Now listening if the screen is on, but I don't want that)
Not sure of the security implications though, I notice on my Z2 and Z3+ for example if I want to change Camera Mode out of Superior Auto after quick-launching it from sleep with the hardware button then I need to unlock with my password.