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official iCS update

when will the official update from motorola\google will arrive?

azulgrana said:
when will the official update from motorola\google will arrive?
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Look behind you, it might be already there.

can you give me a date?
and I just read that there isn't an option to use the device as a disk drive, is it true?

It will be pushed out on 11.01.2012 but this is very confidential information, please don't tell anybody!

can someone serious answer me please?

Nobody knows. You'll just have to wait like the rest of us.

No one knows.
Sent from my Xoom using xda premium

azulgrana said:
can someone serious please answer me?
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You're in the wrong place, pal. If you really want an answer, you'll have to find a connection within Motorola... if they even have a hard date set. If you want to be taken seriously, take time to search and read before posting a question. You'd find dozens of threads on the topic in the xoom forums alone (unfortunately, since others choose not to searrch, too) and you'd quickly learn there is no answer to your question here.
You can have ICS on your xoom today if you want it, just not from Moto. Again, do some reading and research and you can determine whether available alternatives are right for you, or whether to wait for a not-yet-announced official update.
Nearly everyone here is helpful and will assist if you do your homework and still have questions... but you have to take yourself and your own questions seriously before you can expect anyone else to do so... or you can choose to be roasted.

hchxoom said:
You're in the wrong place, pal. If you really want an answer, you'll have to find a connection within Motorola... if they even have a hard date set. If you want to be taken seriously, take time to search and read before posting a question. You'd find dozens of threads on the topic in the xoom forums alone (unfortunately, since others choose not to searrch, too) and you'd quickly learn there is no answer to your question here.
You can have ICS on your xoom today if you want it, just not from Moto. Again, do some reading and research and you can determine whether available alternatives are right for you, or whether to wait for a not-yet-announced official update.
Nearly everyone here is helpful and will assist if you do your homework and still have questions... but you have to take yourself and your own questions seriously before you can expect anyone else to do so... or you can choose to be roasted.
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first of all, I want to thank you for taking the time to write your answer.
I did searched(not in XDA, I searched on google) for the answer and found a lot of articles about the XOOM getting the ICS update but they all were very old so I thought that maybe Motorola released a date for the update and I didn't found an answer for that so I decided to ask here.

azulgrana said:
first of all, I want to thank you for taking the time to write your answer.
I did searched(not in XDA, I searched on google) for the answer and found a lot of articles about the XOOM getting the ICS update but they all were very old so I thought that maybe Motorola released a date for the update and I didn't found an answer for that so I decided to ask here.
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The problem is, and always will be - you can never set a solid release date for software upgrades when it comes to this 'chain' that the update must go through in order to be released to us.
From a manufacturer and carrier standpoint, they could never give even the slightest hint of a date for a software release until its imminently close. Reason being, there are so many variables and factors affecting a particular update. If they gave any sort of date other than "soon", then if they missed that date that everyone was expecting - customers would blow a gasket.
So essentially, from their standpoint, it is MUCH safer to keep from giving any sort of date of release.
Bottom Line: An official ICS update should be coming sometime soon. Speculation says the U.S. Wifi-only XOOM will be the first, and then others will soon follow. That is the most we know at this point.
So pull up a chair, grab a beer, and join the rest of us as we compulsively surf these android forums every day for the next piece of news to come forward.

azulgrana said:
first of all, I want to thank you for taking the time to write your answer.
I did searched(not in XDA, I searched on google) for the answer and found a lot of articles about the XOOM getting the ICS update but they all were very old so I thought that maybe Motorola released a date for the update and I didn't found an answer for that so I decided to ask here.
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I had some good guidance (some nice, some not so nice) when I first started using xda, so glad to pass it along. The best was not to start a new thread except as a last resort - most questions are already asked and answered somewhere, and if not there is a likely an existing thread/discussion in which the question fits. For the most part, xda members aren't jerks and are extremely helpful... but the frustration factor rises quickly when the same questions are asked and answered repeatedly. As you'll probably be told at some time, it is a developers forum not really a users forum... they've just chosen to let us in (because we help test what they're dev'ing).
One more suggestion - be more careful with your topic titles. I opened the thread to read assuming you were posting some official announcement... and would bet most others did, too. Be more clear with the title and you increase the odds that you'll get readers that can/will help.
BTW, I'm still getting used to the xda search function (a bit cumbersome, works best in my opinion searching within a subforum), and often prefer a Google search myself. If you add "xda" to your Google search terms, you'll often find what you need.

azulgrana said:
can someone serious answer me please?
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I understand your concern, the more they wait the less we can play with our toy until that other date (ya know, 23/12/2012)

I'll give you a real answer. No body knows.
It seems like the last few updates were dropped with no prior warning. I assume ICS will be a different situation and they would at least give a little heads up (or so I would hope.) If you have a 4G VZW XOOM, expect to wait another month so Verizon can tinker around with it first.
Or, if you want it now, just go to the dev section and flash the wonderful EOS ROM. It takes all of 15 minutes to do if you're already rooted. In fact, I spent more time downloading the files than I did actually flashing the recovery and the ROM + a few bits and pieces that make it work. It's well worth it.
Hope this answers your question.

After getting dragged along month-to-month waiting for an official Android update with previous devices, I've come to the personal conclusion that I'll never wait for an official Android update ever again. The custom ROMs from these forums are always better and are always available far in advance of any official release.
You may want to give this a try. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400958&page=82
Team EOS (formerly Team Tiamat) has proved to be one of the elite Android dev teams in my opinion and are worth following because they always have something new to try out.

Typically, the update will come in waves and there will be a leak to the blogs a few days before...

Kudos to the people who took the OP and his question seriously. There's no justification for being a d*** to someone who probably isn't familiar with all of the ins and outs of XDA. Come on now...
Anyway, you can watch paint dry in way less time than a carrier or OEM will deliver an official Android version update to their devices (assuming you're using something other than a Nexus device) so custom ROMs are definitely the way to go. It is not uncommon for devs here to release official ROMs before the carriers/OEMs LOL! To that end, check out one of the ICS ROMs from Team EOS in the Xoom development section. Root your Xoom if you haven't done so already, flash one of their ICS ROMs and enjoy . The devs here on XDA are good for releasing ROMs and updates in a timely manner.

Brazillian MFN Lollipop soak test

Anyone else here is on the brazillian MFN soak test? Today I went into MFN Forum and couldn't see any of the existing comments. Is it just me? It's a bug? I didn't try to post a new comment, but noticed that the last activity on the threads were from Dec 10.
I know I shouldn't mention the soak test MFN etc, but I feel that it's almost a joke. Many users didn't get the update, and there were almost no feedback from Motorola in any thread, even in threads were people were reporting problems and important stuff. I didn't get any more surveys to answer also but the first one. So I don't care anymore, because as far as I'm concerned they didn't held up to their part of the "contract", not only because I didn't get the update but because they showed no interest in our feedback.

Well it seems they just deleted all the comments in all the threads. I made a new comment and it reset the counters. Awful.

The forum is having problems. Everyone's comments got deleted, and they're going to restore it from their backup.

Sri2702 said:
The forum is having problems. Everyone's comments got deleted, and they're going to restore it from their backup.
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Are you part of the indian soak test? Are they giving you any feedback on the forums, asking questions, etc? Before the deletion I checked almost all topics and there was almost no comments from Motorola staff.

rcoacci said:
Are you part of the indian soak test? Are they giving you any feedback on the forums, asking questions, etc? Before the deletion I checked almost all topics and there was almost no comments from Motorola staff.
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Nope. I didn't get selected. But, I do know someone from this forum who is part of the Indian soak test:
@transp0rt3r

I emailed LG about marshmallow and got this response

....according to this reply U got today:
image upload no size limit

Can we please not make a new thread for every little bit of non-news regarding marshmallow?
Misinformed statements from CS reps mean nothing. We will have a flashable zip of the rom before Christmas. It's already confirmed, lg Poland have the rom and have posted screenshots of it.

Let's wait and see. But mainly this is the reason why iphone 6s sounds better and better every day.

This could have best been posted in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/lg-g3-android-marshmallow-discussions-t3216143
or this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/lg-g3-marshmallow-update-t3251226
We do not need anymore threads regarding the upcoming update
Thanks

nougat 7.1.1 rollout

Now that android 7.1.1 rolled out to our beloved mini, is there any hope that zte unlock the bootloader of the phone, & eventually get root & custom roms? ( sorry for my terrible english)

ayoub.hariri.20 said:
Now that android 7.1.1 rolled out to our beloved mini, is there any hope that zte unlock the bootloader of the phone, & eventually get root & custom roms? ( sorry for my terrible english)
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Is there hope? Sure, as much as there was before... ZTE doesn't seem to be interested in helping any development on any device but the Axon flagship.

I have now emailed the (woefully inadequate) customer services department over 40 times in a hope that they are even reading their emails properly to see if we're getting the Android Nougat Update for the Axon 7 Mini in the UK. Alll I get is the same crappy canned and preprepared rubbish. I think this is so poor, I can foresee the company will be demolished next year if they don't sort out these updates and actually listen to their customers. I'm so sick and tired of this. ZTE....no future custom from me I'm afraid....last device I ever buy from you. You have officially **** the bed with me....it's a shame cuz the device as a whole is pretty good....I just can't give my hard earned cash to a company with this poor level of customer interaction and I now doubt the validity of the warranty you get with the devices. If mine breaks down....I wouldn't risk sending it in for repair as I don't think I'd get it back.... sorry ZTE...I shall be telling people not to get your stuff in the future.....you have officially pissed me off royally....

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Is there hope? Sure, as much as there was before... ZTE doesn't seem to be interested in helping any development on any device but the Axon flagship.
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Where can i download the official Axon 7 mini B2017G nougat?

Not sure if they are reading their emails, but someone from ZTE seems interested in our feedback. They posted this survey over on their own forum:
I asked for an unlocked bootloader on the last question. It is worth a try.
edit: long time lurker, but apparently I am not able to include links in my posts. You should be able to find the survey without much trouble. community DOT zteusa DOT com SLASH discussion SLASH 23709 SLASH axon-7-mini-nougat-feedback-survey
maybe someone else with a more established account can post a working link.

Mr_DNA said:
Not sure if they are reading their emails, but someone from ZTE seems interested in our feedback. They posted this survey over on their own forum:
I asked for an unlocked bootloader on the last question. It is worth a try.
edit: long time lurker, but apparently I am not able to include links in my posts. You should be able to find the survey without much trouble. community DOT zteusa DOT com SLASH discussion SLASH 23709 SLASH axon-7-mini-nougat-feedback-survey
maybe someone else with a more established account can post a working link.
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Here you go...
https://community.zteusa.com/discussion/23709/axon-7-mini-nougat-feedback-survey

Now it is available (7.1.1)
Look this post https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73257562&postcount=13

moto g6 play xt1922-7(boost mobile) ota zip

i have pulled the ota zip for this model but im not sure what to do with it so here you go to whoever knows what to do.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YuH9d4RlgrmwhTnb1iIpd4ONrYdrgELV.

This is just a patch. Not the complete firmware. Typically only the full firmware is shared here not just a patch. Entire firmware will be much larger then 72MB. You were able to locate the questions and answers forum but the rom forum is where this belongs. There is a thread in there with complete stock firmware downloads.
Sent from my moto g(6) plus using Tapatalk

yea well im done caring. at least im trying my ass off to get the updated firmware for this specific model since no one else seems to give a damn about this device. this was my last ditch effort. i already switched to a z2 force so good luck to everyone on this. and ive already tried multiple times giving this device away to anyone thats a dev cause i intended on buying a new one but not one person wanted it so im just tossing it at this point. best of luck. if someone thinks they do something with this go for it.
Xplorer4x4 said:
This is just a patch. Not the complete firmware. Typically only the full firmware is shared here not just a patch. Entire firmware will be much larger then 72MB. You were able to locate the questions and answers forum but the rom forum is where this belongs. There is a thread in there with complete stock firmware downloads.
Sent from my moto g(6) plus using Tapatalk
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I am on a G6+ so throw a fit if you want. We have a dev who will be getting a device soon and I myself am attempting to build los 15.1 to solve the 1 remaining bug we have on Oreo-based roms/GSIs.
That said, I'm glad you're trying to help the community but there is a right way and a wrong way. Generic no detailed information posts like this can be dangerous. Is this OTA1 is it OTA2 is it OTA3? What firmware version is this to upgrade from and to? I see the version in the file name when clicking the link to your G Drive, but that doesn't help users searching through XDA who might find this patch useful. I don't think a google search result that showed this post would convert the URL to the file name. So even google search wouldn't know what to make of your post. Is it a flashable zip or is it flashed via the bootloader with fastboot? In either case how does a n00b know how to do that? I forget the Boost Mobile variant is a Jeter not Aljeter to which there is not even a firmware posted for(although I believe the Aljeter firmware can be used anyways and gives you a more stock google experience I guess). I did not say take down the patch, it's worthless, etc. I did say it is not typical to share them here. If you truly want to help members provide the proper/necessary information. If you want to cry and whine, don't expect sympathy. Pack your bags, and move on to your new device. You could probably sell it and recover some investment by keeping in mind there is a market segment who cares nothing about custom roms and such and may like to buy the device.

i would def like to know who this dev is then cause the only one that was doing anything has already messaged me saying they dont want the device lol. the boost mobile variant has only had one update so i didnt bother saying anything beside ota zip for boost mobile because its the only one we have recieved for our device model if people cant read thats there problem. its frustration as all hell to have someone saying what your saying right now when there is like me and one other guy it seems trying our hardest for this device and everyone else is like "hey lets watch the jeter guys fail". i had planned on cleaning up the post when im not as pissed about owning a phone with so little support. if you have any friends or dev friends that have this model and would be kind enough to pull a better ota file for us PLEASE be my guest.
Xplorer4x4 said:
I am on a G6+ so throw a fit if you want. We have a dev who will be getting a device soon and I myself am attempting to build los 15.1 to solve the 1 remaining bug we have on Oreo-based roms/GSIs.
That said, I'm glad you're trying to help the community but there is a right way and a wrong way. Generic no detailed information posts like this can be dangerous. Is this OTA1 is it OTA2 is it OTA3? What firmware version is this to upgrade from and to? I see the version in the file name when clicking the link to your G Drive, but that doesn't help users searching through XDA who might find this patch useful. I don't think a google search result that showed this post would convert the URL to the file name. So even google search wouldn't know what to make of your post. Is it a flashable zip or is it flashed via the bootloader with fastboot? In either case how does a n00b know how to do that? I forget the Boost Mobile variant is a Jeter not Aljeter to which there is not even a firmware posted for(although I believe the Aljeter firmware can be used anyways and gives you a more stock google experience I guess). I did not say take down the patch, it's worthless, etc. I did say it is not typical to share them here. If you truly want to help members provide the proper/necessary information. If you want to cry and whine, don't expect sympathy. Pack your bags, and move on to your new device. You could probably sell it and recover some investment by keeping in mind there is a market segment who cares nothing about custom roms and such and may like to buy the device.
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Just got the notification for update from Oct to Nov security patch. I'll download tonight. Xt1922-7

Version info

Xplorer4x4 said:
I am on a G6+ so throw a fit if you want. We have a dev who will be getting a device soon and I myself am attempting to build los 15.1 to solve the 1 remaining bug we have on Oreo-based roms/GSIs.
That said, I'm glad you're trying to help the community but there is a right way and a wrong way. Generic no detailed information posts like this can be dangerous. Is this OTA1 is it OTA2 is it OTA3? What firmware version is this to upgrade from and to? I see the version in the file name when clicking the link to your G Drive, but that doesn't help users searching through XDA who might find this patch useful. I don't think a google search result that showed this post would convert the URL to the file name. So even google search wouldn't know what to make of your post. Is it a flashable zip or is it flashed via the bootloader with fastboot? In either case how does a n00b know how to do that? I forget the Boost Mobile variant is a Jeter not Aljeter to which there is not even a firmware posted for(although I believe the Aljeter firmware can be used anyways and gives you a more stock google experience I guess). I did not say take down the patch, it's worthless, etc. I did say it is not typical to share them here. If you truly want to help members provide the proper/necessary information. If you want to cry and whine, don't expect sympathy. Pack your bags, and move on to your new device. You could probably sell it and recover some investment by keeping in mind there is a market segment who cares nothing about custom roms and such and may like to buy the device.
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Contrary to what you said about no firmwares being around for the Boost Mobile variant of the G6 Play, but, there is firmware available for it, even though it uses the Sprint branded firmware the firmwares are still there for it, after use the phone will provision and activate itself for Boost Mobile per your account that's attached to it, here's a direct link to the firmwares for it: Sprint firmwares for JETER XT-1922-7, it even has the latest firmware for the last OTA patch we got for the November Security Patch Level
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Xplorer4x4 said:
I am on a G6+ so throw a fit if you want. We have a dev who will be getting a device soon and I myself am attempting to build los 15.1 to solve the 1 remaining bug we have on Oreo-based roms/GSIs.
That said, I'm glad you're trying to help the community but there is a right way and a wrong way. Generic no detailed information posts like this can be dangerous. Is this OTA1 is it OTA2 is it OTA3? What firmware version is this to upgrade from and to? I see the version in the file name when clicking the link to your G Drive, but that doesn't help users searching through XDA who might find this patch useful. I don't think a google search result that showed this post would convert the URL to the file name. So even google search wouldn't know what to make of your post. Is it a flashable zip or is it flashed via the bootloader with fastboot? In either case how does a n00b know how to do that? I forget the Boost Mobile variant is a Jeter not Aljeter to which there is not even a firmware posted for(although I believe the Aljeter firmware can be used anyways and gives you a more stock google experience I guess). I did not say take down the patch, it's worthless, etc. I did say it is not typical to share them here. If you truly want to help members provide the proper/necessary information. If you want to cry and whine, don't expect sympathy. Pack your bags, and move on to your new device. You could probably sell it and recover some investment by keeping in mind there is a market segment who cares nothing about custom roms and such and may like to buy the device.
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ninjakira said:
i would def like to know who this dev is then cause the only one that was doing anything has already messaged me saying they dont want the device lol. the boost mobile variant has only had one update so i didnt bother saying anything beside ota zip for boost mobile because its the only one we have recieved for our device model if people cant read thats there problem. its frustration as all hell to have someone saying what your saying right now when there is like me and one other guy it seems trying our hardest for this device and everyone else is like "hey lets watch the jeter guys fail". i had planned on cleaning up the post when im not as pissed about owning a phone with so little support. if you have any friends or dev friends that have this model and would be kind enough to pull a better ota file for us PLEASE be my guest.
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My Boost Mobile G6 Play has gotten 3 OTAs since I bought it last July

PimpMy5Ton said:
Contrary to what you said about no firmwares being around for the Boost Mobile variant of the G6 Play, but, there is firmware available for it, even though it uses the Sprint branded firmware the firmwares are still there for it, after use the phone will provision and activate itself for Boost Mobile per your account that's attached to it, here's a direct link to the firmwares for it: Sprint firmwares for JETER XT-1922-7, it even has the latest firmware for the last OTA patch we got for the November Security Patch Level
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My Boost Mobile G6 Play has gotten 3 OTAs since I bought it last July
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?? That was from a few months ago when there wasn't anything uploaded on lolinet and people were complaining about it hard. so calm down lol. We've all gotten 3 updates since then and uploaded on lolinet.

ninjakira said:
That was from a few months ago when there wasn't anything uploaded on lolinet and people were complaining about it hard. so calm down lol. We've all gotten 3 updates since then and uploaded on lolinet.
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I'm calm, just sayin' lol, I think it's funny how people don't wanna wait on development on new devices, in my opinion if you can't wait don't buy the new device, if you buy it knowing that there's not any development available for it then don't complain, it'll just be ignored.

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I'm calm, just sayin' lol, I think it's funny how people don't wanna wait on development on new devices, in my opinion if you can't wait don't buy the new device, if you buy it knowing that there's not any development available for it then don't complain, it'll just be ignored.
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Lol sorry. My customer service side took over for. Sec ? but yeah your right. Thats basically what's happened to is I've just started ignoring the people as ****ty as that does sound. Once it's out we will know lol.

I know this is an old post but...
ninjakira said:
i would def like to know who this dev is then cause the only one that was doing anything has already messaged me saying they dont want the device lol. the boost mobile variant has only had one update so i didnt bother saying anything beside ota zip for boost mobile because its the only one we have recieved for our device model if people cant read thats there problem. its frustration as all hell to have someone saying what your saying right now when there is like me and one other guy it seems trying our hardest for this device and everyone else is like "hey lets watch the jeter guys fail". i had planned on cleaning up the post when im not as pissed about owning a phone with so little support. if you have any friends or dev friends that have this model and would be kind enough to pull a better ota file for us PLEASE be my guest.
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In no way do I consider myself a developer, as I am certified n00b status.
But after reading this thread, I've decided to accomplish a goal I've had in mind for a while, for which I have found very little documentation. If I am successful, I'll post a guide. I'm glad the people who know what they're doing can login to sites like this and give the little guys a fighting chance. Thanks!

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In no way do I consider myself a developer, as I am certified n00b status.
But after reading this thread, I've decided to accomplish a goal I've had in mind for a while, for which I have found very little documentation. If I am successful, I'll post a guide. I'm glad the people who know what they're doing can login to sites like this and give the little guys a fighting chance. Thanks!
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Dude this post is old. Like a year old now. I've made the guide for decrypting and rooting and even reflashing stock firmware that I also keep updated. I highly advise you to read everything within the Moto g6 play forum to make sure your not basically gonna be copying me and or just gonna create another guide that will have no point in it actually being here because my guide already covers it.

ninjakira said:
Dude this post is old. Like a year old now. I've made the guide for decrypting and rooting and even reflashing stock firmware that I also keep updated. I highly advise you to read everything within the Moto g6 play forum to make sure your not basically gonna be copying me and or just gonna create another guide that will have no point in it actually being here because my guide already covers it.
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You're being a ****, ****. I was literally thanking you guys, I acknowledged it was an od thread in the title. I thanked you, and the other handful of devs for helping out guys like me, who don't have all of the knowledge to develop themselves, or the money to buy a nicer phone with more support. Anyway I don't hold grudges and I still appreciate your contributions. I'm trying to update mine to Pie but can't find any official files to do so. Anyways ill figure it out, it's just that my moms pixel 2 just broke and we don't have the money to fix it just yet to im really trying to get my jeter ready for her because she needs the phone in order to work. But before all of this i was going to try and compile a custom kernel from scratch for the jeter, for use with the news Andrax Pentesting Framework so that I could finally experience airodump/wifite without external adapter. looks like its gonna have to wait. mom comes first. have a good night bro see ya around.:good:

KnowNoNapsNever said:
You're being a ****, ****. I was literally thanking you guys, I acknowledged it was an od thread in the title. I thanked you, and the other handful of devs for helping out guys like me, who don't have all of the knowledge to develop themselves, or the money to buy a nicer phone with more support. Anyway I don't hold grudges and I still appreciate your contributions. I'm trying to update mine to Pie but can't find any official files to do so. Anyways ill figure it out, it's just that my moms pixel 2 just broke and we don't have the money to fix it just yet to im really trying to get my jeter ready for her because she needs the phone in order to work. But before all of this i was going to try and compile a custom kernel from scratch for the jeter, for use with the news Andrax Pentesting Framework so that I could finally experience airodump/wifite without external adapter. looks like its gonna have to wait. mom comes first. have a good night bro see ya around.:good:
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If you wanna think I'm a **** for being honest with you and forward instead of sugarcoating stuff then go ahead. You said your making a guide. I simply said make sure it's not a guide that already been made because so far we have 5 threads about gsi's and other useless threads that have kinda cluttered this forum and or stuff that my guide covers because once again. There is already enough clutter on the forum. https://forum.xda-developers.com/g6-play/development/ota-moto-g6-play-aljeter-t3921877. To answer your question after being a called a **** that's what your looking for. You have to be on the January security patch to even take/flash it. If you took an Oreo update after the January 1st security patch which I do believe is February 1st for oreo you are out of luck on getting pie until the stock firmware is uploaded on mirrors.

KnowNoNapsNever said:
You're being a ****, ****.
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This unacceptable conduct for XDA. This community is very open to free speech, but personal attacks are not welcome, allowed, or tolerated. I'm not going to report it because the mods have enough work as it is. However, I am going to take the time to educate you on XDA's rules regarding language.
"2.1 Language: XDA is a worldwide community. As a result, what may be OK to say in your part of the world, may not be OK elsewhere. Please don't direct profanity, sexually explicit language or other offensive content toward Members or their work. Conversely, while reading posts from other members, remember that the word you find offensive may not be offensive to the writer. Tolerance is a two-way street." -- Emphasis, mine. Source: XDA Announcement.
Please be civil. That was uncalled for. The guy you were responding to was only trying to avoid more mass confusion, because we have too many guides already.