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Got my G5 Yesterday

The production is flawless. I really like it. Here were my concerns before it arrived:
1) It would be defective (antenna showing, dust under the camera lens, etc.: *It was perfect, no blemishes.
2) WiFi calling wouldn't work (I don't use it but others said it wasn't working at all on their Sprint phones). *I had to go thru the setup twice and the second time it worked fine.
3) The screen would look washed out. *It's bright and vibrant. I wonder if the store model wasn't a production model.
4) The fingerprint scanner would be too annoying to reach. *This complaint is valid. It sort of defeats the purpose having it on the back when it's on my desk all day.
5) Battery life. *Haven't had it long enough to verify how good it is.
6) Laggy. *Nope, it's blazing fast.
7) Regretting not getting the S7 or S7 Edge. *No regrets yet, I love the price point on the G5.
Hope this is helpful, feel free to ask more questions.

Same here mate. Had the same concerns but mine its immense and blemish free. Funnily enough I had an s7 before this, and it doesn't even come close

That let me sleep so much better! My Pre-Ordered G5 is coming between the 15th and 18th April. I get a Silver One with free Cam Plus Module... Hope there are no building issues, I'm one of the First in Germany who gets one... :fingers-crossed:

Nice man. I wouldnt pay for cam plus i think but would have loved a free one. Hope its fun.
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Just got my G5 yesterday in UK and I have few issues The gap between the battery and device is un even on the right side and have some backlight bleed on top and bottom of the screen :crying:

panamaniac said:
Nice man. I wouldnt pay for cam plus i think but would have loved a free one. Hope its fun.
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Gives at all 4000mah of Battery Size. That's really nice for free, and I love to take Photos with a Hardware Key like on the Xperias from Sony I'm really happy about my Pre-Order. But...
liam_davenport said:
Just got my G5 yesterday in UK and I have few issues The gap between the battery and device is un even on the right side and have some backlight bleed on top and bottom of the screen :crying:
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When I read this I could cry... UK is close to Germany... Can you give it back to get a new One? :fingers-crossed:

Miustone said:
Gives at all 4000mah of Battery Size. That's really nice for free, and I love to take Photos with a Hardware Key like on the Xperias from Sony I'm really happy about my Pre-Order. But...
When I read this I could cry... UK is close to Germany... Can you give it back to get a new One? :fingers-crossed:
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Yes but gonna trade for a different device don't want another G5 don't get me wrong it's a great phone but nothing special too many build issues for me and I believe there is no unlocked bootloader so this phone not for me will trade it for a S7 Edge performance wise exynos is way better and has a bigger batter

Miustone said:
Gives at all 4000mah of Battery Size. That's really nice for free, and I love to take Photos with a Hardware Key like on the Xperias from Sony I'm really happy about my Pre-Order. But...
When I read this I could cry... UK is close to Germany... Can you give it back to get a new One? :fingers-crossed:
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Dont worry about the gap. You have to look for it to care. And tru that about the greater battery and hardware button. Again, id be psyched if they'd thrown one in for me.
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panamaniac said:
Dont worry about the gap. You have to look for it to care. And tru that about the greater battery and hardware button. Again, id be psyched if they'd thrown one in for me.
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The gap isn't an issue but when you pay lots of money for something you'd expect better quality.. Anyways like I say it's a great phone can't knock the hardware just needs some small improvements/refinements and it'll be perfect :good:

liam_davenport said:
The gap isn't an issue but when you pay lots of money for something you'd expect better quality.. Anyways like I say it's a great phone can't knock the hardware just needs some small improvements/refinements and it'll be perfect :good:
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I picked up the Galaxy S7 Edge and I've been playing with it and comparing it to the G4. Camera photography is hit or miss. Obviously the G4 and G5 (since they have the same sensor specs) will capture more detail (16mpx vs 12mpx) but G5 will have better front facing camera, awesomely neat wide angel.
S7E has VERY good low light... I mean VERY good low light! Huge differences when I take night time shots!
But ... Samsung has its flaws as well. I'm not going to cancel my G5 pre-order, I want to get my hands on it. But Samsung S7E is def. a very good, long lasting device in terms of battery life - let's see how the G5 is in the end! If I get a flawed G5 I'll be disappointed, but I'll ask for another and if that one comes back flawed, I'll keep the S7E as my own personal device.
But I really hope it isn't as bad as some people say here.

zkyevolved said:
I picked up the Galaxy S7 Edge and I've been playing with it and comparing it to the G4. Camera photography is hit or miss. Obviously the G4 and G5 (since they have the same sensor specs) will capture more detail (16mpx vs 12mpx) but G5 will have better front facing camera, awesomely neat wide angel.
S7E has VERY good low light... I mean VERY good low light! Huge differences when I take night time shots!
But ... Samsung has its flaws as well. I'm not going to cancel my G5 pre-order, I want to get my hands on it. But Samsung S7E is def. a very good, long lasting device in terms of battery life - let's see how the G5 is in the end! If I get a flawed G5 I'll be disappointed, but I'll ask for another and if that one comes back flawed, I'll keep the S7E as my own personal device.
But I really hope it isn't as bad as some people say here.
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Yeah but the processing on g5 is hit and miss too so would be good to see some proper comparisons against S7E, As for battery on G5 I got 3-4 sot in less then 24hrs guess will improve over time but as of now not very impressed 2014 flagships can beat this lol, Just watch for Led backlight bleed if you have it you'll see on first boot or put a black image on screen and go in a dark room and check the corners and side lots of units got this fault, It's not a bad device I think with the right modules and some development i.e kernels etc should be a great phone but i'm digging the S7 way more feels amazing in the hand very premium <3 Plus the exynos chip is very optimised if you watch against the SD820 variant destroys it apart from gaming adreno gpu is boss Just the price of the S7E kills me lol
Not trying to push anyone away from the phone just my experience with it

liam_davenport said:
Yeah but the processing on g5 is hit and miss too so would be good to see some proper comparisons against S7E, As for battery on G5 I got 3-4 sot in less then 24hrs guess will improve over time but as of now not very impressed 2014 flagships can beat this lol, Just watch for Led backlight bleed if you have it you'll see on first boot or put a black image on screen and go in a dark room and check the corners and side lots of units got this fault, It's not a bad device I think with the right modules and some development i.e kernels etc should be a great phone but i'm digging the S7 way more feels amazing in the hand very premium <3 Plus the exynos chip is very optimised if you watch against the SD820 variant destroys it apart from gaming adreno gpu is boss Just the price of the S7E kills me lol
Not trying to push anyone away from the phone just my experience with it
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Price is only 45 euros more for the S7E here in Spain.
Camera is much worse than my G4 ...
Check these out:
Picture of my shoe, same distance. Color on the G4 is far more accurate. Detail is much higher (look at the button next to the shoe lace). I zoomed out of the G4 image to be able to be almost identical to the S7E picture.
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In the next picture, color on the S7E is SO washed out, it really changed what the wall looks like. Color is also VERY washed out. That is not a "blue sky"...
I'm very unimpressed with what Samsung offered in terms of well lit pictures.
On the other hand, here is a night shot. Samsung DESTROYED the G4, but then again, G4 is older... And S7E has better low light camera. Either way... Both were taken max aperture (10 sec for Samsung, 30 for LG), 50 ISO, both mounted on tripods. Also these are the best of maybe 4 or 5 images.
I hope this has helped anyone who is very happy with good shooters. I just think that Samsung doing a good job, but not compared to LG in most regular shots. Colors are washed out, details are missing, over sharpened.... Meh... Not impressed, honestly ... On the other hand, night shots are SUPERB on the Samsung, but this is only my 3rd time shooting at night - 99.999% of my shots are daytime or indoor. If the S7E had a better or same camera as the G5, I might have just kept it, but I know I'm going to return it after I test the G5 and S7E side by side (like this images). Best shooter (quality, speed, battery life) will be my next device
Oh, if people are interested, I can test out G4, G5 and S7E images. I have a bunch of G4 and S7E side by sides already, so if anyone wants them let me know and I can publish some information and details about them.

Thank you for the pictures, I would like to see more side by side comparisons if you please.

Have the g5 build quality is good but i do have backlight bleed
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Moving from the Edge to the LG G5

I'm considering getting the G5 instead of the S7 for two reasons.
First, a little back story. I've had the S7 since the day it came out. I was fortunate enough to be eligible for an upgrade after having lost my LG G3 in a snowfield while doing some back country snowboarding. The G3's performance was great for me, plus I had an 8500mah battery on it, which allowed me to go days without a recharge. The drawback was that it was monolithic in bulk.
I often go out into the back country to snowboard; battery life is key. With the G5, there's the likelihood of a module that expands battery life. Failing that, I can get extra batteries to take with me. So, reason one: exchangeable/expandable batteries.
Secondly, and slightly related to my first point, is root. Without root on the S7 Verizon version, I'm unable to pare down bloatware, use Greenify, and switch ROMs to something more suitable or preferable than the factory options. Rooting a phone has the benefit, in my experience, of extending battery life simply by limiting what's running at any given time.
The one thing that's got me on the fence is the waterproof/dustproof feature of the S7 line. I may actually be able to find my old G3 this summer when I hike the area where I lost it. It's unlikely, but possible. The benefit being that I can recover my memory card... I am not disillusioned enough to think that it'll actually function after being saturated by springtime snow melt, and long term frozen conditions. (Man, that'd be a great testament to the LG hardware if it did, no?)
Anyway, I am willing to listen to any counter arguments to my decision before I go through with this. I'm meeting a guy at the VZW store this afternoon. He's going to inspect my phone, then buy a G5 for me right then and there if it's acceptable. It should be, given that it's been in a case and had a screen protector on it since day one.

Lg g5: is truly not worth it. DOA. Moreover snapdragon version is locked as well. I sent mine back. If anything look at HTC 10.
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Don't do it. Don't be that "from s7 edge to G5 to s7 edge" guy.... Please don't.
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The g5 has way lower brightness (100% on the g5 is dimmer then 50-60% on the s7 edge). Worse build quality, worse battery and it looks ugly as hell (probably subjective). Oh and no waterproofing like you mentioned. The htc 10 looks to be much better in pretty much every aspect, I actually regret getting the s7 edge over it. The g5 is probably the worst flagship that came out this year.

lvnatic said:
The g5 has way lower brightness (100% on the g5 is dimmer then 50-60% on the s7 edge). Worse build quality, worse battery and it looks ugly as hell (probably subjective). Oh and no waterproofing like you mentioned. The htc 10 looks to be much better in pretty much every aspect, I actually regret getting the s7 edge over it. The g5 is probably the worst flagship that came out this year.
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The aesthetics of the G5 do not bother me. I'm a functionality over form sort of person, as I inferred above by mentioning my massive 8500mah battery and my requirement for long periods away from civilization. I do agree that the Samsung hardware is better manufactured, and the form is far more appealing, but if it doesn't meet my core needs, I'm going to be unhappy.
That being said, I hadn't considered the HTC 10 as an option. I will read up on it and see whether it will suit my needs. Thanks for mentioning it.
One thing about brightness, even on the lowest brightness, the S7 is annoyingly luminescent at night. When I wake up and want to check my phone, it doesn't dim low enough for me.

Brava27 said:
Don't do it. Don't be that "from s7 edge to G5 to s7 edge" guy.... Please don't.
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Useless reply.

markwebb said:
Lg g5: is truly not worth it. DOA. Moreover snapdragon version is locked as well. I sent mine back. If anything look at HTC 10.
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Thanks, I am going to take a look at the HTC 10. I appreciate your input.

sangandongo said:
Thanks, I am going to take a look at the HTC 10. I appreciate your input.
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Haha. You're welcome.
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1. battery bank, your friends will thank you
2. there's app out there that allow you to disable every service running on the phone without root, its a shame you're on verizon otherwise the international s7 works on att/tmo and that has root.
3. yes waterproofing is nice as borat would say

peachpuff said:
1. battery bank, your friends will thank you
2. there's app out there that allow you to disable every service running on the phone without root, its a shame you're on verizon otherwise the international s7 works on att/tmo and that has root.
3. yes waterproofing is nice as borat would say
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1. What the heck does "battery bank" mean? I know what a physical battery bank is, and how to wire one up, but how's that relevant? All apps related to the name are scammy looking.
2. I installed the app to disable crap on the phone. Marginal improvement. Yes, I know the Exynos version is rootable.
3. I like.

sangandongo said:
1. What the heck does "battery bank" mean? I know what a physical battery bank is, and how to wire one up, but how's that relevant? All apps related to the name are scammy looking.
2. I installed the app to disable crap on the phone. Marginal improvement. Yes, I know the Exynos version is rootable.
3. I like.
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Use your phone as a battery bank, jesus. Do some research.
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Biggest mistake of 2016 happening right here, people!
With the G5, there's the likelihood of a module that expands battery life. Failing that, I can get extra batteries to take with me. So, reason one: exchangeable/expandable batteries.
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That's not going to happen. The whole "Friends" add-ons are DOA, so just ignore them. The B&O DAC for the G5? Yeah, North America won't get that, and the non-US modules won't even work with your US G5 even if you order one from Europe or whatever.
It's not waterproof, the battery is smaller, the screen is worse, the build quality is worse.. It's like downgrading from a Porsche to a Toyota. Don't get me wrong, the Toyota will serve you well for a long time, but it's like... WHY would you do that? "I don't like this high-end product, so I'm going to get the worse option." The better thing to do instead would be to get the Exynos version of the Edge, but that would depend on your current carrier (if it supports it).
The HTC 10 on the other hand is a better choice, but still not as overall good as the Edge. The Edge is at top right now when it comes to smartphones. It's the king, and whatever you decide to get instead will be a downgrade. That's just how it is right now. Samsung did a really great job with it, and you're about to do something stupid.

J.Biden said:
Biggest mistake of 2016 happening right here, people!
That's not going to happen. The whole "Friends" add-ons are DOA, so just ignore them. The B&O DAC for the G5? Yeah, North America won't get that, and the non-US modules won't even work with your US G5 even if you order one from Europe or whatever.
It's not waterproof, the battery is smaller, the screen is worse, the build quality is worse.. It's like downgrading from a Porsche to a Toyota. Don't get me wrong, the Toyota will serve you well for a long time, but it's like... WHY would you do that? "I don't like this high-end product, so I'm going to get the worse option." The better thing to do instead would be to get the Exynos version of the Edge, but that would depend on your current carrier (if it supports it).
The HTC 10 on the other hand is a better choice, but still not as overall good as the Edge. The Edge is at top right now when it comes to smartphones. It's the king, and whatever you decide to get instead will be a downgrade. That's just how it is right now. Samsung did a really great job with it, and you're about to do something stupid.
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Thanks. I backed out of the trade. Incidentally, I did the Porsche to Toyota "downgrade." .
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sangandongo said:
1. What the heck does "battery bank" mean? I know what a physical battery bank is, and how to wire one up, but how's that relevant? All apps related to the name are scammy looking.
2. I installed the app to disable crap on the phone. Marginal improvement. Yes, I know the Exynos version is rootable.
3. I like.
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That's what i meant a physical battery bank, 20k mah in size should charge the phone 5 times or so compared to carrying an extra battery. If you can carry extra batteries then you can carry a large battery bank, kinda defeats the purpose of "i must have removable batteries" imo.

Exxxynos version can be bought in Canada unlocked is rootable
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You would be so foolish not to get HTC 10 over g5

We all get to choose the phone that best meets our individual needs. If a replaceable battery is critical for the OP, that makes the G5 his only choice among top end phones. Personally, I'm not impressed by the G5, but that's me.
But for the specific concerns listed. The US S7e will probably never be rooted, so if that's truly critical get something else. I'm not sure the 5 is the answer for that, either, though.
As far as battery goes, while I think that phones should, in general, have a replaceable battery, an external battery pack is a viable substitute, especially if you don't need it all the time. There are even wireless ones that power the phone through the Qi coil.

Good luck with the lego phone, bye. This thread never happened and i never replied.

You better go with LG G4 instead of LG G5 if you insist on LG hehe.
But really, nothing can beat Galaxy S7 Edge, including HTC 10:
1. Best Display on planet.
2. Waterproofing
3. Awesome Battery life
4. Super-sexy phone.
5. The best smartphone camera with the fastest focus on smartphones.
6. If you need more just ask...

Was looking to give my edge back for the G5... after playing with the g5 so glad am sticking with my baby. Great battery life waterproof and brilliant design and most of all the phone is sexy like me... and the g5 battery not that great.
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HTC 10 vs. S7 Overall opinions

So a few reviews are out and so far it looks like HTC finally hit it out of the park. Was wondering what everyone's overall opinion is. I personally will be switching to the HTC 10 if the S7 doesn't receive unlock/root within the next 4-5 months.
The built in DAC and Amp are a huge selling point for me. Only real downside is the lack of AMOLED.
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I'm quite surprised by the 10. I come from a HTC background with the One X, M7, M8 and M9 before switching to the S7 so I'm quite surprised the specs are pretty similar.
I think the water resistance of the S7 is a bonus but until we see battery life reviews and how much screen on time the 10 can deliver, it's too close to call. Year on year HTC state that the camera will improve but I think it still won't rival the S7.
In terms of root, sure you can get an unlocked bootloader with HTC but I've been surprised that living without root is relatively easy, the only annoyance is ads, but most other features can be provided by 3rd party apps or other workarounds.

kash20 said:
I'm quite surprised by the 10. I come from a HTC background with the One X, M7, M8 and M9 before switching to the S7 so I'm quite surprised the specs are pretty similar.
I think the water resistance of the S7 is a bonus but until we see battery life reviews and how much screen on time the 10 can deliver, it's too close to call. Year on year HTC state that the camera will improve but I think it still won't rival the S7.
In terms of root, sure you can get an unlocked bootloader with HTC but I've been surprised that living without root is relatively easy, the only annoyance is ads, but most other features can be provided by 3rd party apps or other workarounds.
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I don't think there will be third party workarounds to block YouTube ads, but yea living without root isn't that bad, but i still miss a bunch of root features.
So far the reviews say that the HTC 10 "easily lasts a full day" for battery, but yea I'd like to see what SOT people are getting. For me the big deal is that audio experience. I had the HTC Rezound and the M8 and HTC definitely is the best in smartphone audio. I listen to lots of music with my phone so that really matters a lot to me.
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I too am very impressed with what I see on the HTC 10. I don't know that it will be worth switching too. But it looks like a very nice device. If there is one complaint I have with the S7, its the DAC. I could use another 10-15% of volume.
Other than samsung & carrier bloat like FB and instagram, I have no complaints. I did read that HTC got paid to put FB and Instagram on the HTC 10 as well, add the carrier bloat to it if you don't buy unlocked and there probably will not be a big difference between the 2.

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the only annoyance is ads
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Try this https://block-this.com/
I think lg should take a look at htc on how to do a metal phone right. That's a nice bevel on the 10, but its typical htc design and it doesn't really wow me.

HTC 10 pros:
- developer-friendly, developer friendly, developer-friendly,
- light Android customization with little bloat, faster updates
- USB-C,
- better DAC,
- Quick charge 3.0 (s7 is QC 2.0 only),
- unlocked version supports wifi calling and volte (where applicable),
- metal body,
- 1 year uh-oh protection with easy replacement (where available)
S7 pros:
- better camera based on available comparison photos (HTC may improve with updates , but on 1 side-by-side sample, glare on HTC 10 is much worse and that can't be fixed by software),
- IP68 water resistance,
- wireless charging
- 9h SOT achievable (my personal experience)
Unfortunately for me, camera and water resistance rank as high as developer-friendliness, so it's still a tough decision for me.

lost_ said:
S7 pros:
- better camera based on available comparison photos (HTC may improve with updates , but on 1 side-by-side sample, glare on HTC 10 is much worse and that can't be fixed by software),
- IP68 water resistance,
- wireless charging
- 9h SOT achievable (my personal experience)
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- better looking
- Samsung AMOLED display

CafeKampuchia said:
- better looking
- Samsung AMOLED display
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I'd argue that the look is subjective. I like both.
I'd also add that HTC tends to be a lot better at software updates than Samsung.
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lost_ said:
S7 pros:
- better camera based on available comparison photos (HTC may improve with updates , but on 1 side-by-side sample, glare on HTC 10 is much worse and that can't be fixed by software)
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I've read a few of the HTC 10 reviews that are up this morning and it sounds like the 10's camera is great but not the equal of the S7/S7E's camera. It also seems that the same could be said of the battery, though I've not seen anything very scientific yet.

It's good to see HTC back in the game but I'll stick with the S7 due to its camera and the overall HTC support in my country is not that good anyways. Not an audiophile here so I don't know if the DAC in the Exynos version will do better or at least on par with the HTC 10's dedicated DAC but I'm pretty sure that the DAC on the Exynos is better than the Qualcomm 820 version since it's from Cirrus Logic, the company who bought the Wolfson Microelectronics.

lost_ said:
HTC 10 pros:
- developer-friendly, developer friendly, developer-friendly,
- light Android customization with little bloat, faster updates
- USB-C,
- better DAC,
- Quick charge 3.0 (s7 is QC 2.0 only),
- unlocked version supports wifi calling and volte (where applicable),
- metal body,
- 1 year uh-oh protection with easy replacement (where available)
S7 pros:
- better camera based on available comparison photos (HTC may improve with updates , but on 1 side-by-side sample, glare on HTC 10 is much worse and that can't be fixed by software),
- IP68 water resistance,
- wireless charging
- 9h SOT achievable (my personal experience)
Unfortunately for me, camera and water resistance rank as high as developer-friendliness, so it's still a tough decision for me.
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I totally agree with your points.. I still have the Galaxy S4 (AT&T rooted running Lollipop) and will wait a few months to make a decision. The audio is not a big factor for me. To listen to music I either bluetooth stream to my Bose radio or use headphones. Can't understand how someone can listen to media on phone speakers, unless it is a necessity and in rare cases.

EEMene said:
Can't understand how someone can listen to media on phone speakers, unless it is a necessity and in rare cases.
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+1 I've always thought it was misguided marketing to spend so much time and energy trying to pretend that a handset is a useful piece of audio equipment. In the end, I wonder how many customers they have retained with BoomSound vs. Samsung's cameras and AMOLED displays.
That having been said, if anything can pry this S7 out of my hands, it would be the 10 (or the upcoming HTC Nexus device). Though the 10 doesn't look as nice, it's still pretty good looking and the software experience & support will be better, not to mention unlockable bootloader.

As an S6 owner, I will fully concede that Samsung is the king of smartphone cameras.
However, I listen to music almost all day, every day, so I'm willing to sacrifice a bit of image quality from the camera (the sample photos from the 10 still look pretty great) to get that vastly superior audio experience on the 10.
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eMMC (why the heck would they go with eMMC when UFS 2.0 is available?) and lack of anything to really make it different from other phones (S7 has Gear VR and IP68, while the LG G5 has those "cool" add-ons). Not sure why they wouldn't build a competitor to the Gear VR and make it better (HTC Vive is awesome).

This is already out:
Whatever the case, overall battery life between the Galaxy S7 and HTC 10 are going to be similar, although how similar is going to be workload dependent and the bin of the SoC you end up getting. If your workload is almost purely display-bound, the Galaxy S7 seems to come out on top. If your usage is more mixed and primarily stresses the CPU like our 2016 web browsing test, the HTC 10 will edge out the Galaxy S7 and iPhone 6s by a nose.
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They did not test it against an Exynos 8890 S7.
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Toss3 said:
eMMC (why the heck would they go with eMMC when UFS 2.0 is available?) and lack of anything to really make it different from other phones (S7 has Gear VR and IP68, while the LG G5 has those "cool" add-ons). Not sure why they wouldn't build a competitor to the Gear VR and make it better (HTC Vive is awesome).
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See the article above which also has NAND read/write results. Apparently someone at HTC knew what they were doing.
Outside of battery life, one inevitable question is whether the HTC 10's eMMC is a detriment to the device.
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In this test at least, write performance of the HTC 10 is 75% greater than the Samsung MLC UFS solution in the Galaxy S7 due to the use of an SLC write cache. However, sequential reads on the Galaxy S7 are about 35% higher than what they are on the HTC 10.
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CafeKampuchia said:
This is already out:They did not test it against an Exynos 8890 S7.
Source: AnandTech
See the article above which also has NAND read/write results. Apparently someone at HTC knew what they were doing.
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Those results are worthless as they say themselves: "Unfortunately with Android 6 AndroBench 3.6 has broken timers yet again leading to wildly inaccurate figures for performance, and AndroBench 4 varies significantly from run to run for random read and write so for now we really can only disclose sequential figures with any level of confidence that these are comparable to AndroBench 3.6 and StorageBench performance figures.". I'm getting way better results on my S7 than what Anandtech are reporting anyhow. Androbench isn't really to be trusted if the results deviate between runs. Also the only results that matter are random reads and writes for 4KB (OS speed) and those are missing.
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I'm getting way better results on my S7 than what Anandtech are reporting anyhow.
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Probably because you have an Exynos SoC whereas the one tested has an SD820 SoC.

Obviously it is all subjective. But one thing is clear, HTC stepped their game up. Samsung vs HTC used to be a common thing on xda every year since the HTC one X days but then htc fell off and LG came to life. Well the "rivalry" is back in effect cause HTC is offering a very compelling device. I think both devices cancel each other out in terms of features, maybe the S7 has a couple more features but overall it comes down to what you want.....except when you factor in the Exynos SoC. The Exynos S7 trumps the HTC 10 without a doubt. S820 vs S820 and It becomes a much tougher call. Just my opinion.
HTC 10 Pros over the S7 (according to me):
- Blink feed!!!! I absolutely love it
- Better audio hands down.
- More development friendly (assuming)
- Better front facing camera with OIS
- USB Type C is the future
- Micro SD slot up to 2TB
S7 pros over the 10 (according to me again):
- IP 68 certified
- Wireless charging
- Better camera overall (after watching almost all the reviews it seems pretty clear)
- Head phone jack at the bottom
- noticeably smaller footprint despite almost having the same size display.
Even pros:
Fast charging, Great build quality, Great displays (even though the S7 display is considered to be the best it always is a matter of opinion. Some don't like saturated colors), Solid battery life, SD slot, fingerprint scanner, Great performance, software is another matter of tastes (some love multiwindow and the valued added features that touchwiz offers) .
Personally I prefer the S7. No I haven't used the HTC 10 but I'm saying that based on the reviews I have read. I own the Exynos S7 and 6 hours of screen on time is like drinking water, its a common thing, I never get less than that. Performance is absolutely stellar, and since I have the Exynos version, mine is rooted and has a custom rom so I'm all good. Still my geek side is interested on the HTC 10. But if both phones were announced on the same day, knowing what I know now, I would pick the S7 just because it's the one that is more well rounded, has a slightly better camera and IP 68 certification alongside that Exynos SoC and killer battery life. All this makes this phone the benchmark of 2016. I won't get something else unless it trumps this S7 Exynos. New releases create lots of excitement for us geek but it's important to know what you have and how much you would miss it if you let it go. I can't part ways with my S7 right now, I just cannot.
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I own the Exynos S7 and 6 hours of screen on time is like drinking water, its a common thing, I never get less than that. Performance is absolutely stellar, and since I have the Exynos version, mine is rooted and has a custom rom so I'm all good.
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6 hours SOT with which ROM please?

TomasDrabek said:
6 hours SOT with which ROM please?
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6 hours of scresm on time with stock, no rom needed. Sometimes i reach 7 hours
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LG G5 vs. LG V10

Hey.
So I'm in the market for a new phone, just coming from the LG G3. I was meant to be getting the G4, but now I have the option for ANYTHING. And I'm leaning toward the G5 or the V10 right now.
I'd love some opinions on why the G5 is the way to go over the V10, or vice versa. But I should explain something first... I have a sort of criteria in mind for my next phone.
Screen size: I would love to keep the size under 5.5". So the G5 is more favourable there.
Removable battery: Both the G5 and V10 have this, so woohoo!
Headphone jack: IMO it belongs on the base of the device. It's far more convenient for me this way. V10 wins here. HOWEVER, I know about the Hi-Fi Plus module, so this could be something I change on the G5.
mSD Card slot: Both have it, woohoo again.
I've heard a lot of negatives for the G5 too. A lot of videos have surfaced of people complaining about the seam between the body and the chin / module. The body and chin not matching up nicely... Dust gathering inside this gap... But I haven't heard the same about this WITH the Hi-Fi Plus module in use. So if I were to get the G5, I would definitely get the Hi-Fi Plus module too so I have the headphone jack at the base... I would use it all the time. But then I wonder if I will ever find a case that will fit the phone with this module in use. I think I've seen one, but I cannot recall where now. I always have bought cases for my phones.
The V10 looks and sounds pretty great too. I'm not a big fan of the "grip" back panel, and of course the screen and body size is a bit big for my liking, but I could suck it up for the sake of the other criteria I have. However, it is a bit older than the G5 and I would like to buy a more recent device if possible.
Ugh, I really can't decide! I need some opinions from some owners!

The V10 will have a slightly larger screen and better audio capabilities out of the box, but the G5 will be better in the long run as it has a newer SOC that is at least 30% more powerful. The G5 is also now steeply discounted in many places making it a great value overall. If you must have a V series device, I would suggest waiting another month so you can get the V20 which will include the same powerful SOC as the G5 as well as the other perks of the V series.

invertedskull said:
Hey.
So I'm in the market for a new phone, just coming from the LG G3. I was meant to be getting the G4, but now I have the option for ANYTHING. And I'm leaning toward the G5 or the V10 right now.
I'd love some opinions on why the G5 is the way to go over the V10, or vice versa. But I should explain something first... I have a sort of criteria in mind for my next phone.
Screen size: I would love to keep the size under 5.5". So the G5 is more favourable there.
Removable battery: Both the G5 and V10 have this, so woohoo!
Headphone jack: IMO it belongs on the base of the device. It's far more convenient for me this way. V10 wins here. HOWEVER, I know about the Hi-Fi Plus module, so this could be something I change on the G5.
mSD Card slot: Both have it, woohoo again.
I've heard a lot of negatives for the G5 too. A lot of videos have surfaced of people complaining about the seam between the body and the chin / module. The body and chin not matching up nicely... Dust gathering inside this gap... But I haven't heard the same about this WITH the Hi-Fi Plus module in use. So if I were to get the G5, I would definitely get the Hi-Fi Plus module too so I have the headphone jack at the base... I would use it all the time. But then I wonder if I will ever find a case that will fit the phone with this module in use. I think I've seen one, but I cannot recall where now. I always have bought cases for my phones.
The V10 looks and sounds pretty great too. I'm not a big fan of the "grip" back panel, and of course the screen and body size is a bit big for my liking, but I could suck it up for the sake of the other criteria I have. However, it is a bit older than the G5 and I would like to buy a more recent device if possible.
Ugh, I really can't decide! I need some opinions from some owners!
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Wait till Sept. 6th when the V20 will get announced. Probably will have bigger display but the bezels seem pretty small. You'll hopefully have a v10 with better specs and I don't think it will have the rubberish back. I wish I had waited.
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Thanks guys. TBH, I'm not sold on the V10 or V20 due to the screen size being much larger than I want. I really want keep it under 5.5". I'm not sure what to make of the secondary screen either. I'm REALLY torn what to do...
I've also been without the use of a proper phone for about a month now and I am itching to get something. It's all due to the place where I bought the LG G3 screwing me over big time. I was told I was getting the G4 as a replacement, and they were just stringing me along. I'm also frustrated at the lack of really great flagship devices that have a removable battery. Very disheartened to the direction the smartphone industry is moving toward.

G5, just go for it.

G5 with B&O modular is similar size to the V10, like wise if the V20 is the same size to the V10, wait for the V20, overall without seeing the V20, V10 is a better choice as the phone has a much solid built.
BTW the G5 has 4 cases available at present to support the B&O modular and 1 case for the cam plus modular.

I ve never seen a v10 but I don't understand where all the hate is coming from. My previous phone was a note 2 and I'm just happy with the G5. It is superior in every aspect. The only small disadvantage is the battery life compared to the note series.
Absolutely love the performance and the camera. Especially the wide angle lense is able to to make some nice photos.

I personally like the G5. I believe it only gets so much hate because LG tried to be innovative with the modularity aspect and didn't do that great of a job. As a standalone phone it's specs are good IMO and it performs well. I haven't had any issues. My biggest complaint is that when not in a case it is a little bit slippery but that's pretty nit picky.
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Thanks everyone. I'm leaning more toward the G5 again... But man, I am having such a hard time deciding. I think It's a combination of being spoiled for choice and me being too damn fussy. My dream phone with that criteria will never get made, I need to accept it. The G5 is REALLY close.
I'm such a damn nerd I made up an Excel spreadsheet and punched in several phones with all their specs that come close to fitting my criteria. If you are interested, here's what I was looking at:
LG G4
LG G5
LG V10
Asus ZenFone 2 Laser
Asus ZenFone 2 Deluxe
HTC One M9
HTC One M9+
Xiaomi Redmi Note 2
Samsung Galaxy S7
The bold ones made my shortlist.
Then I got a notepad and ruler and actually drew exact measured sizes of those four phones to compare the sizes. I don't have quick and easy access to a store where all of those are easily comparable. So I think I am going to regret the V10 (or V20) due to the size. It is a monster. The S7 is still a couple hundred $ more than the others, and the One M9+ is getting old now... So I keep coming back to the G5.
But I'm really concerned about the seam between the body and chin. Can any G5 owners tell me if the body / chin seam is a bit funny or does line up perfectly? Is is something I could possibly (and unintentionally of course) fiddle with too much and cause it to shift and not line up as nicely over time?

invertedskull said:
Thanks everyone. I'm leaning more toward the G5 again... But man, I am having such a hard time deciding. I think It's a combination of being spoiled for choice and me being too damn fussy. My dream phone with that criteria will never get made, I need to accept it. The G5 is REALLY close.
I'm such a damn nerd I made up an Excel spreadsheet and punched in several phones with all their specs that come close to fitting my criteria. If you are interested, here's what I was looking at:
LG G4
LG G5
LG V10
Asus ZenFone 2 Laser
Asus ZenFone 2 Deluxe
HTC One M9
HTC One M9+
Xiaomi Redmi Note 2
Samsung Galaxy S7
The bold ones made my shortlist.
Then I got a notepad and ruler and actually drew exact measured sizes of those four phones to compare the sizes. I don't have quick and easy access to a store where all of those are easily comparable. So I think I am going to regret the V10 (or V20) due to the size. It is a monster. The S7 is still a couple hundred $ more than the others, and the One M9+ is getting old now... So I keep coming back to the G5.
But I'm really concerned about the seam between the body and chin. Can any G5 owners tell me if the body / chin seam is a bit funny or does line up perfectly? Is is something I could possibly (and unintentionally of course) fiddle with too much and cause it to shift and not line up as nicely over time?
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its a hit or miss situation.

I've gone with the G5. Ordered the G5 H860 along with the Hi-Fi Plus module and battery charging kit.

Wish I could get the B/O module with my T Mobile G5...

invertedskull said:
I've gone with the G5. Ordered the G5 H860 along with the Hi-Fi Plus module and battery charging kit.
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Good choice. I hope you enjoy it as much as we do.

PlagasX said:
Wish I could get the B/O module with my T Mobile G5...
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Can't you get around that by rooting it? I plan to root my G5 in the first week I get it.

invertedskull said:
I've gone with the G5. Ordered the G5 H860 along with the Hi-Fi Plus module and battery charging kit.
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Is the module really worth it? I've heard for several sources that youreally can't feel difference(eith hi-fi headsets of course)

invertedskull said:
Can't you get around that by rooting it? I plan to root my G5 in the first week I get it.
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Is this true?

PlagasX said:
Is this true?
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I haven't looked into it enough, but I think it will only be a matter of gaining root access and / or flashing a different region firmware... Someone correct me if I'm wrong?

Lukijs said:
Is the module really worth it? I've heard for several sources that youreally can't feel difference(eith hi-fi headsets of course)
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I'm kind of buying the Hi-Fi Plus module cos I want the headphone jack on the bottom of the phone. Once I get it I'll let you know if I hear a big difference or not.
I have a DAC I used to use with my old Cowon S9 MP3 player, and the audio difference was a little, but not worth using all the time due to the extra cable and the DAC requiring to be charged in addition to the MP3 player. But the Hi-Fi Plus will be connected to the G5, eliminating both of those factors.

G6 or S8?

I pre-ordered my S8 last week, but now LG has opened its pre-orders here too. It's a good ~USD 100 cheaper and will actually beat Samsung to market despite starting later (by only about 3 days though). I got the chance to play around with a dummy, and I will say I slightly prefer the blockier construction on the G6 versus the S8's super-thin design (although there's no doubt the S8 looks better). I haven't had the chance to play with a real demo one though, but I'm definitely going out of my way to try it. I'm not terribly concerned about performance or display or camera, but what I am concerned about is battery. I'm someone who's very heavy on my devices, sometimes going 7+ hours SOT a day, and my S7's battery has become a bit of a slog in the year since I got it (even on lighter days, which I realize is still at least 4h SOT, it requires a mid-afternoon "nap"). The G6 does come with a larger battery, but also a less efficient processor. Which one do you think will serve me better, for the next year or so?

AB__CD said:
I pre-ordered my S8 last week, but now LG has opened its pre-orders here too. It's a good ~USD 100 cheaper and will actually beat Samsung to market despite starting later (by only about 3 days though). I got the chance to play around with a dummy, and I will say I slightly prefer the blockier construction on the G6 versus the S8's super-thin design (although there's no doubt the S8 looks better). I haven't had the chance to play with a real demo one though, but I'm definitely going out of my way to try it. I'm not terribly concerned about performance or display or camera, but what I am concerned about is battery. I'm someone who's very heavy on my devices, sometimes going 7+ hours SOT a day, and my S7's battery has become a bit of a slog in the year since I got it (even on lighter days, which I realize is still at least 4h SOT, it requires a mid-afternoon "nap"). The G6 does come with a larger battery, but also a less efficient processor. Which one do you think will serve me better, for the next year or so?
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I am a LG fan myself and has used all the LG flagships since G4, both G and V series. I am expecting my G6 to be delivered today. I don't like Samsung because of their software, but that's just me.
As for you, if that extra 100$ is not a concern I would recommend the S8. For a heavy user, a power efficient cpu will probably give you longer sot, despite smaller battery.

suhridkhan said:
I am a LG fan myself and has used all the LG flagships since G4, both G and V series. I am expecting my G6 to be delivered today. I don't like Samsung because of their software, but that's just me.
As for you, if that extra 100$ is not a concern I would recommend the S8. For a heavy user, a power efficient cpu will probably give you longer sot, despite smaller battery.
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I can deal with the software, I actually kind of like it (I know, I'm a monster hahaha). If I'm not wrong, standby is better on LG than Samsung right? Anyway, keep me posted on your G6's battery. I'm interested in hearing about it!

AB__CD said:
I can deal with the software, I actually kind of like it (I know, I'm a monster hahaha). If I'm not wrong, standby is better on LG than Samsung right? Anyway, keep me posted on your G6's battery. I'm interested in hearing about it!
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I think the battery life of the G6 is good, but twice now I've seen the battery level drop really fast during the day.
Here is what's common about those two incidents.
1) The phone was hardly used on those days.
2) Connected to WiFi.
3) Appears to happen after a week + days since the last time.
I'm beginning to wonder if the cause is some sort of carrier, or LG, baked in app collecting data, or running diagnostics. Being on WiFi kinda makes me suspect that because we know companies have been trashed before about consuming data on metered lines.
Regardless, it's irritating to find half your battery gone by noon when the phone has been on the coffee table for the entire time. A reboot appears to correct it, or resets the clock.
As for rogue apps in the background, I don't install apps. I've used the same apps for the last two years+ and didn't experience this on my V20, S7E, Note7, or V10.
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echto said:
I think the battery life of the G6 is good, but twice now I've seen the battery level drop really fast during the day.
Here is what's common about those two incidents.
1) The phone was hardly used on those days.
2) Connected to WiFi.
3) Appears to happen after a week + days since the last time.
I'm beginning to wonder if the cause is some sort of carrier, or LG, baked in app collecting data, or running diagnostics. Being on WiFi kinda makes me suspect that because we know companies have been trashed before about consuming data on metered lines.
Regardless, it's irritating to find half your battery gone by noon when the phone has been on the coffee table for the entire time. A reboot appears to correct it, or resets the clock.
As for rogue apps in the background, I don't install apps. I've used the same apps for the last two years+ and didn't experience this on my V20, S7E, Note7, or V10.
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Sounds like poor callibration on LG's part. Or perhaps intentional result modification to give the illusion of good endurance. Much like my S7 drops rapidly after exiting Ultra Power Saving.
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I was excited about LG Pay, but that appears to be a slow moving boat. For those that don't know, LG Pay will use magnetic field modulating technology similar to Samsung Pay, which allows the phone to be used as a payment device with older magnetic card readers. Unfortunately LG Pay won't be released until June, and then only in South Korea. So far, LG has only been able to bring two, yes only two, financial institutions on board. No word if LG Pay will be released in the US.
I did like Samsung pay, but hated the white background it went to after an update. It looks like the white background may no longer be there from recent pictures I've seen.
I'm teetering...
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Hi, I would like to buy LG G6 or S8, It is true that the rounded corners are bad on G6???

Cri87 said:
Hi, I would like to buy LG G6 or S8, It is true that the rounded corners are bad on G6???
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Theyre not bad per se, just differently done. Where the Galaxy S8 has a normal display with bezels that cover the corners, the LG G6 display is a display whose corners have actually been cut off. This improves durability, as the corners are less likely to be impacted during a fall. This means the corners arent perfectly smooth, but only about as jagged as a circle on the display is. Which is to say: not noticeable when viewing normally.
There are lots of reasons to get the S8 over thd G6, and vice versa, but this ain't one of them.
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AB__CD said:
Theyre not bad per se...
...There are lots of reasons to get the S8 over thd G6, and vice versa, but this ain't one of them.
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Thank you so much for the info :good:

The curved display of s8 is a big minus for me, along with the fingerprint sensor position.
Specially when watching a video, or playing games, the curved edges looks really ugly.

suhridkhan said:
The curved display of s8 is a big minus for me, along with the fingerprint sensor position.
Specially when watching a video, or playing games, the curved edges looks really ugly.
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The curve is not as dramatic as previous curved Galaxy phones. The S8 reminds me a lot of the Note 7. Both the G6 and S8+ are great phones.
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echto said:
The curve is not as dramatic as previous curved Galaxy phones. The S8 reminds me a lot of the Note 7. Both the G6 and S8+ are great phones.
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I had the opportunity of having a s8 for a couple of hours yesterday from my cousin. I admit it's a gorgeous looking phone, but still couldn't really like the screen curve, it's just not for me. Functionality is more important to me than aesthetics. My G6 got delivered today, and so far I am pretty happy. The only thing I am gonna miss is the notification LED, guess I just have to get used to the always on display.

You need to evaluate well for both and against...

suhridkhan said:
I had the opportunity of having a s8 for a couple of hours yesterday from my cousin. I admit it's a gorgeous looking phone, but still couldn't really like the screen curve, it's just not for me. Functionality is more important to me than aesthetics. My G6 got delivered today, and so far I am pretty happy. The only thing I am gonna miss is the notification LED, guess I just have to get used to the always on display.
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I haven't turned my my G6 yet. I'm going to use the G8+ for a day or two before decided which one to keep.
The G6 definitely feels better in the hand with it's flat edges.
The S8+ finger print sensor is not as bad as the press is making it out to be. The press should concern themselves with more important issues in my opinion.
The display on the S8+ is fantastic, and you can stream music to two Bluetooth devices simultaneously.
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Whichever goes on sale first
I am waiting for Verizon to put one of these two on 50% off sale. Probably won't happen until Black Friday. No hurry, my G3 is working perfectly with Nougat 7.1.1.

Get the S8 if the fingerprint sensor is not an issue for you. The G6 is slower than most 2016 flagship. You could also get an S7 since its both faster and cheaper. Oh, and no bootloop

Relayers said:
Get the S8 if the fingerprint sensor is not an issue for you. The G6 is slower than most 2016 flagship. You could also get an S7 since its both faster and cheaper. Oh, and no bootloop
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I had the s7 and the s7 edge (and the Note 7 for that matter}, and none of them were faster than the G6 I have now. YMMV.

mhill1986 said:
I had the s7 and the s7 edge (and the Note 7 for that matter}, and none of them were faster than the G6 I have now. YMMV.
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too bad all the tests on the web says otherwise (Exynos with Nougat). The G6 is a joke. It even got a CDN$400.00 rebate since day 1 (using the trade in promo, I used a $15.00 Alcatel pos) + free LG TONE INFINIM (CDN$170.00 value (apparently)).
Terrible battery life, mediocre camera,2016 CPU, GG 3 and will probably get the bootloop plague. There is no reason (but the cool shape/screen ratio) to get this phone at retail price or even close to retail price. Its an overpriced mediocre phone thats great to hold.
And for some reason, only a few countries get the wireless charging ! What a weird decision.

Relayers said:
too bad all the tests on the web says otherwise (Exynos with Nougat). The G6 is a joke. It even got a CDN$400.00 rebate since day 1 (using the trade in promo, I used a $15.00 Alcatel pos) + free LG TONE INFINIM (CDN$170.00 value (apparently)).
Terrible battery life, mediocre camera,2016 CPU, GG 3 and will probably get the bootloop plague. There is no reason (but the cool shape/screen ratio) to get this phone at retail price or even close to retail price. Its an overpriced mediocre phone thats great to hold.
And for some reason, only a few countries get the wireless charging ! What a weird decision.
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Battery life is on par with most of the other flagships (somewhere between 4.5 and 6 hours SOT) and I stick by my assertion that performance is on par as well. The camera has strengths and weaknesses just like all cameras. Anyway, I'm enjoying the device. I'll leave it at that.

I also went with the G6. Never been much of a Samsung fan, but did want to at least have an open mind. I really prefer the screen size of the G6; the S8 just feels too long and narrow. So far battery life has been excellent, even with the AOD turned on. The camera seems to be a big improvement over the G4 I came from. FWIW, I'm very happy I chose the G6 over the S8. As always, YMMV.