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I have 108M with only Android Live, com.google.android, launcher, taskiller.
What do all of you have?
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I have 108M with only Android Live, com.google.android, launcher, taskiller.
What do all of you have?
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The N1 has 512MB but is not available until 2.2.
From what I've read we will receive a ram boost with the first update
hopefully thats not all that will be updated in the next patch.
How do you check RAM usage? I can only find my ROM usage/Internal capacity, in the Running services setting.
Doesn't really matter.. hence they don't tell you. Ideally you want almost all memory used because that's the most efficient.. if they put a value up there then people start getting OCD about maximimising unused memory instead of letting the OS do the opposite.
Does the nexus has the same issue as the original diamond whereby if you installed so many apps it would run out of memory ? I can no longer use my youtube app on the diamond as it requests at least 8Mb of memory!
I always get this message:
There is not enough free storage space to run YouTube. Minimum free storage space required is 8MB
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Not being that tech savvy i'm always confused how memory is allocated on the diamond as i still have about 1.5Gb on the "storage card", 28.70MB on the program tab of "main memory" and 7.74MB on the storage tab on main memory!
Why couldn't they just allocate the whole "storage card" to the phone apps etc ?
Essentially i'm asking is the nexus prone to running out of "memory" even though it may have a 32Gb mico SD card with copious amount of room left for apps etc ?
Forgive me if i'm getting totally confused with ram/rom/storage memory!!
cheers for any help.
hope to be a nexus owner soon.
Memory is not the same as storage space. Look at it as you would RAM on your pc. You don't get more RAM if you get a bigger harddrive, right?
It's the same on the phone, it doesn't matter how big of a SDcard you put in it, the memory used for running apps is the same.
And no, I'm pretty certain you will not get the same problems with the Nexus as you've had with your diamond.
cheers SBS........
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The N1 has 512MB but is not available until 2.2.
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Wow...that's awesome if true. So how much is it capable of making use of now? 256Mb? Anyone know?
download quick system info
right now it says Memory Total 213mb free 54.94mb.
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download quick system info
right now it says Memory Total 213mb free 54.94mb.
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That app is far better than what I was using. Thanks!
HOw much mem do u have free atm
213MB total
27.72MB Free
A lot of people misunderstand how the memory is used, its best to keep all your regularly used apps running and in memory. I pretty much don't force close anything.
So the ram will double up (+ few more) with the next update?
^ yes, this is a limitation of the current kernel, its being fixed and will be pushed in the next update.
yes our phones will run even better soon
On the nexus one there is about 500 mb of ram. Whenever I put my phone on and I kill all my tasks, I only have 120 mb. This is not the biggest problem because after about 30 minutes of using the phone, no matter if I kill all the apps, the ram goes to 70mb - 79mb.
Android 2.2 should fix this.
Or you can use a custom ROM such as cyanogen, with which i have over 230MB free RAM after closing apps
There are already a million and now one threads on this subject, search and you shall find all you could ever care to know about the subject.
You should be using the RAM, not freeing it. The only way you lose battery is if the Application/Widget is downloading or using the CPU/GPU. On your PC, do you go to task manager and kill apps every time?
I know it's a hard habit to kick coming from a G1 where it seemed necessary. But on a Nexus, you really don't need to. The only times I have to use it are when an application hangs.
What the **** is up with everyone not wanting the memory in their phones/computers to be used? That is what it's for! If its not being used it is going to waste.
If you guys are using task managers you have failed.
lol chillout!
People are obviously fine with it and welcome not to moan on the internet to people about not being able to use it.
Install a custom ROM if you want to dry your tears about not being able to use the extra RAM.
mets3214 said:
On the nexus one there is about 500 mb of ram. Whenever I put my phone on and I kill all my tasks, I only have 120 mb. This is not the biggest problem because after about 30 minutes of using the phone, no matter if I kill all the apps, the ram goes to 70mb - 79mb.
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Killing apps is 100% unnecessary on the Nexus One.
It actually wastes MORE power to kill apps and have them restart all the time, than it does to just leave them alone.
For the next week, uninstall all your task killer apps.
Then tell us how it went.
Ram goblins got to your ram, oh noes!
I'll answer his question. currently the nexus one only has half of the 512mb of RAM freed up, so you only have 256 mb right now. the next update is freeing up the other half.
RogerPodacter said:
I'll answer his question. currently the nexus one only has half of the 512mb of RAM freed up, so you only have 256 mb right now. the next update is freeing up the other half.
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Sorry, you're right we didn't really directly answer his question I guess. But the point is, people shouldn't be looking at the free memory measurements anymore. Anything that isn't being used by applications will be used by the operating system for caching and other such things (this is a good thing). As soon as another applications starts up and needs that space, the kernel will give it up. Free memory doesn't use less power than memory that is in use by a sleeping process.
While you are correct that not all of the current memory of the device is addressable with the current kernel, when this limitation is removed in the next update (assuming it will be) it still wont solve the OP's problem. All it is going to mean is that even more memory will be taken up as cache space and buffers by the kernel and applications will be closed down even later so you'll still see a pretty small amount of "free" memory. If close to half of the RAM is going completely unused, then that's a lost opportunity by the kernel to cache or prefetch something.
Don't use task managers. They aren't needed and provide nothing. All they do is give fodder to the Steve Jobs' of the world that claim you need to manually micro manage memory on android devices as evidence by the number of people that use them.
Nerd rage much?
So just to clarify, apps don't really "run" in the background, they are just more readily available if they have ram dedicated to them? I'd rather not use a task manager but if it saves any of this pathetic battery I would sacrifice some performance...
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So just to clarify, apps don't really "run" in the background, they are just more readily available if they have ram dedicated to them? I'd rather not use a task manager but if it saves any of this pathetic battery I would sacrifice some performance...
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The only thing task managers do is kill your battery. If you find that your phone is sluggish , doesn't respond well etc, uninstall some bad apps. Some apps aren't coded very well and remain active all the time killing your battery. Having an app checking all the time if another app is killing your battery is also killing your battery.
Bottom line: Don't use a task killer unless you find it absolutely neccesary to keep your phone running at decent speed.
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So just to clarify, apps don't really "run" in the background, they are just more readily available if they have ram dedicated to them? I'd rather not use a task manager but if it saves any of this pathetic battery I would sacrifice some performance...
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Look at the link in my signature, it'll explain how the android system manages programs.
hi
please give me an app for closing applications automatically for more space ram
thanks
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=android+application+to+free+up+ram
Why?
Android will handle the memory by itself if needed.
Got to ask why? As said above it manages its own memory. Free ram is wasted!
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Got to ask why? As said above it manages its own memory. Free ram is wasted!
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And i.say why not. Why let the system manage the ram. The ram manage is poor. They are apps that that always run on its self but they a not used all the time and that's why its good to have a app killer. I using ES task manger its free and good.
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And i.say why not. Why let the system manage the ram. The ram manage is poor. They are apps that that always run on its self but they a not used all the time and that's why its good to have a app killer. I using ES task manger its free and good.
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for the last time android handles its RAM well, free RAM is completely wasted, it keeps apps running so you can quickly re open them...its called multitasking.
If a app (like a game) is opened that needs alot of RAM the manger just kills some apps to free enough RAM for it.
There is no need for free ram at all its doing NOTHING
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And i.say why not. Why let the system manage the ram. The ram manage is poor. They are apps that that always run on its self but they a not used all the time and that's why its good to have a app killer. I using ES task manger its free and good.
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It is well known that most automatic task killers actually cause poor performance and battery life because they don't allow the OS to manage itself properly.
Task killers do have a place in killing errant processes, but never automatically.
Remember, just because a process is "running" doesn't mean it is consuming any CPU cycles, and as has already been mentioned, free RAM is wasted RAM.
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I do not agree
If free RAM is wasted RAM, then why does phone get fast and more responsive when you clear RAM from (default) task manager ?
It means free RAM is doing something.
If free RAM was wasted RAM, phone should be always running snappier with everything kept in the memory. But it does not.
I never used any third party task manager though, but tweaking LMK always yieds better performance. That means default memory management is not so good.
Boy124 said:
I do not agree
If free RAM is wasted RAM, then why does phone get fast and more responsive when you clear RAM from (default) task manager ?
It means free RAM is doing somthing.
If free RAM was wasted RAM, phone should be always running snappier with everything kept in the memory. But it does not.
I never used any third party task manager though, but tweaking LMK always yealds better performance. That means default memory management not so good.
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If your device it slowing down when less ram is free then you have a rouge app taking up processing time, its processing time that slow down the phone NOT free ram, when a app is 'running' in the background it shouldnt be using any processing time however some rouge apps do not manger this well at all and keep running processors
ES Task manager from Google play. Just put system apps to ignore list. But...
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If your device it slowing down when less ram is free then you have a rouge app taking up processing time, its processing time that slow down the phone NOT free ram, when a app is 'running' in the background it shouldnt be using any processing time however some rouge apps do not manger this well at all and keep running processors
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Methinks the word you are looking for is rogue, unless you really mean "red" apps!
Apologies - pet hate of mine on this site, but.nowhere near as much as the "loose when they mean lose" brigade!
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foxmeister said:
Methinks the word you are looking for is rogue, unless you really mean "red" apps!
Apologies - pet hate of mine on this site, but.nowhere near as much as the "loose when they mean lose" brigade!
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I do yes, sorry being dyslexic is never good on forums
It's not needed. Consider the RAM as some food. The food not eaten is just wasted food. Unused RAM is just wasted. When you run an app or game that needs much more RAM, some other apps are killed. Android manages it's RAM really very efficiently. Specially on note, I never have to use any app killer.
Edit: Task killers do nothing but use more CPU and decrease battery life. If you kill 10 'good' apps with X task killer, and then have to open them again, you are doing nothing but using CPU cycles and battery to reopen the same apps that you closed. You walk 10 miles and then come back from where you started for no reason and again walk the same 10 miles just consume more energy, apart from making you look like a complete fool. Do not use task killers. Just check if you got a bad app.
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And i.say why not. Why let the system manage the ram. The ram manage is poor. They are apps that that always run on its self but they a not used all the time and that's why its good to have a app killer. I using ES task manger its free and good.
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But when you kill these "not used" apps the system will have to reload from scratch when required consuming more CPU (and battery) most apps task killers say are running are mearly cached. Read up on this as it is different from running. Android is not windows!
i can only open about 3-4 app before my ram is full and its forcing to closing app . seriously ? wtf is this .
i feel like this phone is worse than n95 .
if i open a web page one youtube link and i still have in memory my message app it will start closing app and sometime it even close the Touch wiz widget so they have to re appear and load for 4 second . i cant believe they only putted 1gb of ram with all there touchwiz bloarware.
Ram issues
Check what apps are running on the background, i would check primarily things you log into that are always logged in like FB, Gtalk, Skype. although even with all those running you shouldnt have issues, maybe try doing a cache and dalvik cache wipe reboot and check changes.
MY BEST FIX is rooting, flashing an AOSP based rom that normally for me they use 350 to 400mb on a normal basis instead of 550-600mb in a sammy based rom.
mine is usally 800-1g and im constantly clearing memory. I dont get it either.
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mine is usally 800-1g and im constantly clearing memory. I dont get it either.
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S3 has a horrible memory management.
1 gb ram ain't enough for the beast.
Launcher redraw on a Top end phone is an Epic fail.
Selina40Kyle said:
S3 has a horrible memory management.
1 gb ram ain't enough for the beast.
Launcher redraw on a Top end phone is an Epic fail.
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I agree, I just opened every app i have and went up to 1.26gb.. and when i have no apps open it jumps from 800-1gb on its own.. so i guess its all in the system that takes up most of the space
Selina40Kyle said:
S3 has a horrible memory management.
1 gb ram ain't enough for the beast.
Launcher redraw on a Top end phone is an Epic fail.
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Jeez 1gb is more than enough
Problem is with the Samsung bloatware. Kies, Remote Controls and all those other services. Delete kiesexe and freeze the Samsung crap inc SVoice..
I see no need to sync to Samsung and Google. The Google services are enough.. The Samsung store is only worth unfreezing for those free offers. The four tracking services ain't needed etc I use Avast to do that etc.
Getting 285M free apx after bootup, same as ICS, on 4.1.2 now. 12 widgets, FB, G+, Fancy widgets, Jorte etc
Also make sure not to run supercharger. It kills multitasking!
Disable all the Bloatware or freeze it using link2sd.
(all share, talk back, s-voice)
Still sitting between 540mb and 630mb maximum
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Kojaes
My 2gb i747m really makes use of the extra ram. It not only can handle 50 background apps with stock rom as apposed to 15-20 for the 1gb version (assuming there is enough ram), but it will boot with about 1.6-1.7gb available, about 700mb used, and 1gb free, and will use memory up to about 200mb free before killing apps to make room for new apps. Bottom line, it multitasks like a S.O.B. My opinion based on 2.5 years Android experience...is that 2gb ram helps big time...especially if you do not optimize your system.
If I had the 1gb version, I would consider a lighter rom as some have mentioned, but also the V6 Supercharger app with specific settings to allow maximum multitasking while remaining stable...which might take some experimenting. I would install Titanium Backup Pro and freeze as many non needed apps to prevent them from loading at boot and using up precious ram. Also, for some apps, I use AutoRuns to prevent them from loading at boot time.
Also remember...that some apps will stay in RAM when it's plentiful. But other apps are programed to allow Android to kill them after a certain length of idle time when they haven't been used.
Ram management is fine on the S3.
If you are not happy with it use a task killer, custom rom/kernel and/or supercharger v6 script.
Also if your ram<100 then you should start making complaints.
My free ram is at 120mb-160mb and i'm happy,no lags,no slowdowns,nothing at all.
Android preloads apps in memmory in order to open faster when we launch them.
Free ram really is wasted ram...it cancels multitasking and if you've bough a 600$ phone and can't multitask with it then you're worth of your fate.
nfsmw_gr said:
Ram management is fine on the S3.
If you are not happy with it use a task killer, custom rom/kernel and/or supercharger v6 script.
Also if your ram<100 then you should start making complaints.
My free ram is at 120mb-160mb and i'm happy,no lags,no slowdowns,nothing at all.
Android preloads apps in memmory in order to open faster when we launch them.
Free ram really is wasted ram...it cancels multitasking and if you've bough a 600$ phone and can't multitask with it then you're worth of your fate.
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The fact that an user has to get task killer and manage memory by him own: FAIL!
I know android pre loads stuff in memory, but it got the priority all wrong.
Why does it keep killing msging, phone and the GODDAMN launcher .
While it never kils the stupid stuff like "Google Book mark Sync", unless you freeze it.
There's no denying that 1gb has crippled S3 badly.
You can claim "Free ram is wasted ram" and throw down links, but at the end of the day it is giving me a bad experience.
Case in point:
1) Launcher Redraw:
Two points to it:
->Bad priority (I'm not sure if it's either a Samsung fault or Android; OOM 6 isn't the way to go).
-> Less ram.
The fact that browsing through play store for 15 mins and then hitting Home button results in launcher redraw is pathetic.
Less ram is the culprit( atleast one of the).
On such an expensive device this is just EPIC FAIL.
Sure we can do Super recharge and try removing the bloatware, but these are quick fixes and doesn't get rid of the main problem.
Not to mention not every one finds all this stuff easy.
The fact that you have to do tweaking on the 'supposedly greatest android phone' to make it work smoothly is an EPIC FAIL.
Custom Roms for an device as expensive as S3, should be there to enhance functionality and increase features. Not to make it works the way it should have out of the box.
2) Sh**ty Multitasking:
Trust me, my iPod touch does better multi tasking that S3 for day to day experience. (I am not an apple troll, btw)
And it doesn't even have a true multitasking and the specs are no where near S3.
When I pause a game, and resume it after an hour it starts from exactly same place . Try that with S3.
Try to use your phone when many apps are getting updated and notification bar is constantly changing.
It'll lag the hell out.
There's no defending to these points.
This is where Apple excels , by giving user everything perfect from out of the box.
Sure you can't do much, but what ever you can, you do it smoothly.
What makes me sad is that Samsung is so close to it, yet they screwed the experience.
And I'm not even going to talk about Contacts and Phone apps.
nfsmw_gr said:
Ram management is fine on the S3.
If you are not happy with it use a task killer, custom rom/kernel and/or supercharger v6 script.
Also if your ram<100 then you should start making complaints.
My free ram is at 120mb-160mb and i'm happy,no lags,no slowdowns,nothing at all.
Android preloads apps in memmory in order to open faster when we launch them.
Free ram really is wasted ram...it cancels multitasking and if you've bough a 600$ phone and can't multitask with it then you're worth of your fate.
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Sorry but this is complete and utter drivel. Stop quoting websites and Google and start wising up.
If you have a game that needs to run and it uses 100mb and the phone has no free ram it kills something else.
This would be fine if the phone loaded the apps quickly but it doesn't.
Custom ROMs do not fix the lack of ram and neither do any of the memory management scripts.
My phone has around 200mb to 300mb though and it still loads and reloads phone and messaging and browser randomly.
Sgs3 is useless at memory management and anyone who says otherwise is living in a dreamland.
No lags and slowdowns is just blatantly not true as your messaging app and phone app will frequently take up to two seconds to load if you are using any Samsung ROM.
biffsmash said:
Sorry but this is complete and utter drivel. Stop quoting websites and Google and start wising up.
If you have a game that needs to run and it uses 100mb and the phone has no free ram it kills something else.
This would be fine if the phone loaded the apps quickly but it doesn't.
Custom ROMs do not fix the lack of ram and neither do any of the memory management scripts.
My phone has around 200mb to 300mb though and it still loads and reloads phone and messaging and browser randomly.
Sgs3 is useless at memory management and anyone who says otherwise is living in a dreamland.
No lags and slowdowns is just blatantly not true as your messaging app and phone app will frequently take up to two seconds to load if you are using any Samsung ROM.
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True that.
I have no idea what is stored for 500-600Mb ram if not the important things like Phone, Msg and Launcher.
Useless stuff.
It is just marketing and business politics, Samsung knew that 1GB is not at all future proof but that is exactly what they need so they can sell the Note 2 and the i9305.
And still they sold over 30M i9300 devices.
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True that.
I have no idea what is stored for 500-600Mb ram if not the important things like Phone, Msg and Launcher.
Useless stuff.
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Man, Android loads that stuff itself based on usage, OOM settings and Minfree values. The other stuff is services that need to run full time so that Kies sync, Location and other Samsung bloat that is really not doing anything most of the time.
Ya I know.
I wonder how can the most important thing, launcher, has an OOM of 6.
Stupid really.
Is it a fault of Android or Samsung messed it up.
In all the galaxy nexus videos I've never seen launcher redraws.
So maybe Samsung messed up for whatever reason.
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"Free ram is wasted ram"
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that remark has been misused greatly by people that can't code for ass and fail at memory optimisation.
It was originally in reference to the Superfetch feature in Vista/7 storing frequently accessed data in ram for faster application startup. It wasn't meant to be applied to applications that use huge amounts of memory for no good reason.
much of Androids poor memory management is Java related, who knows, maybe Google will get a clue and dump the Dalvik VM eventually for a native operating system.
Use aokp or cm 10
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Use aokp or cm 10
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For many of us, camera is an important thing.
aakarani said:
Disable all the Bloatware or freeze it using link2sd.
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Still sitting between 540mb and 630mb maximum
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Is it in the app store ?
Is there any way to freeze samsung permanently without root ?
does link2sd need root to work ?
is advance task killer enough to kill all samsung bloatware ?
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Is it in the app store ?
Is there any way to freeze samsung permanently without root ?
does link2sd need root to work ?
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1) Yes.
2) Yes. You can go to "manage apps", select the applications. There will be an option called "Disable". No need for any app.
3) See above
I've noticed lately that CM11 is using abnormal amounts of memory. It doesn't slow my phone down all that much, but it's just bothering me because I know its not supposed to. Before I got this G2, my S3 ran CM10.2 and it used a ton less memory (between 4 and 600mb).
And from what I know, KitKat is supposed to use less resources.
I also have a normal amount of processes running. Just basic apps like Snapchat, Kik, Voice and Voice+, and all the normal Google services that always run. I even uninstalled FB cause I barely use it and at any given time it would be using up 70mb, and it made no difference,
I cant just keep killing my apps cause they reopen automatically. Even when I do, it doesn't even make a temporary difference. Even when I kill the cached apps.
Its just really bothering me. Any suggestions?
I have a couple screenshots.
free ram = wasted ram
sawyerbenjamin said:
I've noticed lately that CM11 is using abnormal amounts of memory. It doesn't slow my phone down all that much, but it's just bothering me because I know its not supposed to. Before I got this G2, my S3 ran CM10.2 and it used a ton less memory (between 4 and 600mb).
And from what I know, KitKat is supposed to use less resources.
I also have a normal amount of processes running. Just basic apps like Snapchat, Kik, Voice and Voice+, and all the normal Google services that always run. I even uninstalled FB cause I barely use it and at any given time it would be using up 70mb, and it made no difference,
I cant just keep killing my apps cause they reopen automatically. Even when I do, it doesn't even make a temporary difference. Even when I kill the cached apps.
Its just really bothering me. Any suggestions?
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The amount of free ram looks fine. That's what I get on my end with stock LG G2
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It bothers me so much that people still don't know how Android runs and manages resources.
It's not Windows, it's not MacOS, it's Android, it allocates everything on the RAM so that it can be accessed faster, and this improves load times, multitasking, etc.
Free RAM is pretty much wasted RAM and please, do not install task killers nor kill tasks manually. Android does it alone and does it better. Whenever it needs free RAM it will shut down something that's not being used and haven't been used in a long time to free that RAM up.
As two others have stated, free RAM is wasted RAM. I only have about 600mb of RAM free on the Optimus G3 ROM.
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As two others have stated, free RAM is wasted RAM. I only have about 600mb of RAM free on the Optimus G3 ROM.
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I hope I don't sound stupid. It's just more of an OCD thing. Just a couple days ago and prior to that, my phone stuck around 750-850mb. Now its using a over a gig 100% of the time and its just bothering me. I figured there was an actual reason for this. Maybe its from Xposed modules? I never noticed it until I started using Xposed a couple days ago.
But its not a big deal I guess.
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I hope I don't sound stupid. It's just more of an OCD thing. Just a couple days ago and prior to that, my phone stuck around 750-850mb. Now its using a over a gig 100% of the time and its just bothering me. I figured there was an actual reason for this. Maybe its from Xposed modules? I never noticed it until I started using Xposed a couple days ago.
But its not a big deal I guess.
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If you're not having actual performance issues as a result, then don't worry about it. If you always have X amount of free RAM, then you don't need that RAM. As has already been stated, free/unused RAM is wasted RAM. Something most people don't understand about how computers work is that storage and RAM and two completely separate things. Storage is just that - STORAGE. Nothing runs directly from storage. RAM is where things run. When you - or the system - goes to run an application, it gets read from the slow storage and loaded into the much faster RAM and runs from there. This is why more RAM is better (notice I didn't say more free RAM). It allows more applications to be cached in RAM ready to run fast - or to keep more services loaded to allow for more cool features.
More RAM is better, but if you're always clearing it out to keep X amount free and then reloading the same apps again, you are doing yourself no favors from a performance perspective. I am sure you have plenty available at all times for the system to load new apps. It will kill them on its own either when it needs to, or when it sees that haven't accessed that app after a certain amount of time.
rebar71 said:
If you're not having actual performance issues as a result, then don't worry about it. If you always have X amount of free RAM, then you don't need that RAM. As has already been stated, free/unused RAM is wasted RAM. Something most people don't understand about how computers work is that storage and RAM and two completely separate things. Storage is just that - STORAGE. Nothing runs directly from storage. RAM is where things run. When you - or the system - goes to run an application, it gets read from the slow storage and loaded into the much faster RAM and runs from there. This is why more RAM is better (notice I didn't say more free RAM). It allows more applications to be cached in RAM ready to run fast - or to keep more services loaded to allow for more cool features.
More RAM is better, but if you're always clearing it out to keep X amount free and then reloading the same apps again, you are doing yourself no favors from a performance perspective. I am sure you have plenty available at all times for the system to load new apps. It will kill them on its own either when it needs to, or when it sees that haven't accessed that app after a certain amount of time.
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I am 100% fully aware of what Random Access Memory is and what purpose it serves, and I can distinguish it from storage. I know far more than the very basics of a computer. I was just wondering what was using all the extra RAM up. It was bothering me because prior, my phone was using a lot less. Idk why you assumed I didn't understand what RAM and storage was.
sawyerbenjamin said:
I am 100% fully aware of what Random Access Memory is and what purpose it serves, and I can distinguish it from storage. I know far more than the very basics of a computer. I was just wondering what was using all the extra RAM up. It was bothering me because prior, my phone was using a lot less. Idk why you assumed I didn't understand what RAM and storage was.
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Read your own post again and see if you can figure out why i thought it needed explaining.
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rebar71 said:
Read your own post again and see if you can figure out why i thought it needed explaining.
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Yeah I didn't mention storage once.
sawyerbenjamin said:
Yeah I didn't mention storage once.
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EDIT: No, you didn't mention storage. But just by asking the question, people generally are demonstrating a clear lack of understanding about how computers work. I usually just keep quiet, but every now and then, I feel compelled to fully explain it in the hope that the topic won't return. Alas, it always does.
I apologize that you were the unlucky one that I singled out on this occasion. I did not mean to offend. I thought I was being helpful. Maybe I helped someone else.
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