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[Q] Thing to do when getting a fresh Galaxy S I9000

Hi,
I'm a new Android user and I'm getting the Galaxy S I9000 tomorrow.
I would like to know the tasks to perform to have a "nice" phone aka:
- which firmware to upload (where to get it if its not on the official samsung site)
- which fixes to run (lagfix app isnt needed if proper firmware is applied right?)
- which apps to install if necessary (not gadgets but the ones that are mostly imperative to get a good experience)
- which other steps to take (eg format the phone to another file system?)
- gps fixes (?)
thanks a lot

Depends if you want to void your warranty on the first day or not.
First thing would be to update to the latest official firmware with KIES (if you can get the damn thing to recognise your phone, mine doesn't anymore...) and see if you have any problems with lag or whatever. My phone didn't have any lag once I used a 3rd party task manager. Now I have installed loads of widgets and clocks and crap like that, my phone does lag quite often, but I don't let it bother me as much as with other people.
For me, rooting isn't something I would want to do with such a new phone, I would rather wait for the official FROYO 2.2 update, if that doesn't fix the niggles I have, then I will consider it.

i dont mind the warranty but as far as i could ready going froyo isn't especially a good idea right now if i want it to be sort of stable

I mean JH2(?) or whatever the latest official one you get from KIES, not the leaked FROYO builds from samsungfirmwares. You might want to wait a month before rooting or whatever anyway just in case there's any hardware problems that might not be apparent. Things like screen issues, bluetooth, etc. You don't want to discover a dodgy bluetooth module or something like that just after you have rooted/flashed it and can't claim on the warranty.

Tachikoma_kun said:
I mean JH2(?) or whatever the latest official one you get from KIES, not the leaked FROYO builds from samsungfirmwares. You might want to wait a month before rooting or whatever anyway just in case there's any hardware problems that might not be apparent. Things like screen issues, bluetooth, etc. You don't want to discover a dodgy bluetooth module or something like that just after you have rooted/flashed it and can't claim on the warranty.
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Yea but even if he roots.. unrooting it (especially with the one click app) is extremely easy/safe.

Well as far as I could gather, hackeclair seems to be a nice rom with most things fixed inside.
I wonder still how i switch the whole phone from vfat to ext4 (if that's possible) and how to backup the original firmware (yeah forum + search = sucks, results are never what you want lol)

bilboa1 said:
Well as far as I could gather, hackeclair seems to be a nice rom with most things fixed inside.
I wonder still how i switch the whole phone from vfat to ext4 (if that's possible) and how to backup the original firmware (yeah forum + search = sucks, results are never what you want lol)
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the latest factory ROM JH2 has everything working properly, unlike what you read on the rest of the forum.

AllGamer said:
the latest factory ROM JH2 has everything working properly, unlike what you read on the rest of the forum.
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thanks
the phone still use vfat tho right?
I'm a linux user, and i'm wondering why it's not on ext ,i'd fear data corruption and poorer performance
i know.. not much of android, learning every minute lol. Suppose will be easier when i get the actual phone tomorrow

bilboa1 said:
thanks
the phone still use vfat tho right?
I'm a linux user, and i'm wondering why it's not on ext ,i'd fear data corruption and poorer performance
i know.. not much of android, learning every minute lol. Suppose will be easier when i get the actual phone tomorrow
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no exactly, it uses linux format, well at least if you are using the Performance hack dubbed as "one click lag fix"
but for people without lag to begin with, it's just a performance boost

As far as I understood the lag fix, its putting critical files into a ext3 ("linux format") image and leaves the rest on vFat, which fixes the lag, but it's hackish, and slower than if the whole phone was ext3 or ext4. also more corruption prone
I don't know how difficult it is to build a "own" rom, since switching to full ext3/4 would mean wiping the phone

I have never experienced this so called "lag" on my phone, and I have been using it for over a month. Makes me wonder just what exactly are they trying to do on their phones...

Tachikoma_kun said:
Depends if you want to void your warranty on the first day or not..
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With all due respect, this is actually questionable. I haven't seen Samsung ever officially say that rooting or installing custom firmware voids the warranty, so any chance of showing where they say that?
For rooting, they are unlikely to care, because the change is quite basic. Generally, you can simply flash an official firmware before sending to a service centre anyway. Be aware that often companies charge if problems are caused by corrupt (or beta) firmware though, or there are signs of abuse. But this is generally the same with any media player company.. If you do hand them a phone which uses I9000M firmware, not I9000 though, they probably wont be impressed
Also, if the CPU is burnt out and there is evidence of overclocking, they may possibly be reluctant to accept it under warranty.
If Samsung were TRULY concerned though, they wouldn't have allowed access to USB debugging (which is a feature used only by people messing around, and developers). It is a grey area, and obviously, it makes sense to assume they will void your warranty. HOWEVER, the phones have no way of letting anyone know if they have been rooted before and tech support has better things to do than slow down their queue to aggrevate customers for something which rarely causes an issue.
Do keep in mind though, you can't trust every rom (some may be compromised), and if you don't need root, there probably isn't much sense rooting your phone.

Well i don't mind rooting it anyways
I'll probably need it at some point to toy with it too

bilboa1 said:
Well i don't mind rooting it anyways
I'll probably need it at some point to toy with it too
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yup, you will find a lot of cool software will not work if not rooted, for even something as simple as a backup program.

andrewluecke said:
With all due respect, this is actually questionable. I haven't seen Samsung ever officially say that rooting or installing custom firmware voids the warranty, so any chance of showing where they say that?
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From the email I sent them regarding removing the stock apps:
Please note that this e-mail has come from an outbound response system.
Any direct response to this e-mail will not reach the customer care
inbox. If you do need to contact us again please click on the 'contact
us' link located at the bottom of the email or copy the following into
your Browser:
http://erms.samsungelectronics.com/customer/form/contact/contact_uk.html
Dear XXXX XXXX
Customer Reference: XXXXXXXX
Thank you for contacting Samsung Electronics regarding your mobile phone.
Please accept our sincere apologies for the delay in responding to your enquiry.
With regard to your e-mail, you can remove the Samsung Apps from the screen; however you will not be able to remove them fromthe phone without voiding your warranty. To remove them from the front screen, please press the application and drag it to the bottom of the screen.
I hope this has been of some assistance to you. If you do have any
further queries, please do not hesitate to contact us quoting your 210-
reference number.
Kind Regards
Ana
Samsung Electronics UK
Customer Communication Centre
Tel.: 0845 726 7864 (All calls charged at Local Rate)
Homepage: www.samsung.com/uk
[Product] GT-I9000
I mentioned the apps can be removed by rooting the device, and asked if there was a way to remove them without rooting the phone.

Interesting, but in Apple resellers, they seem to officially say the same thing (but from what I've seen, it was never enforced).

well ive got the phone now (woohoo)
i flashed it to JH2 and it's better indeed but it's the wrong model (no big deal it just works)
i got some issues with flashing, have to use a short usb cable without an possible interference else it just fail in the middle.. the phone doesnt get bricked tho, even with bad flash u can still go in download mode and flash with odin.
then i flashed with the newest froyo, and i didn't find any bug, im not sure which bugs are being talked about with it.
moreover I tested the GPS before upgrading and it sucked. I tested it after upgrade and it was perfect accuracy and much faster lock, so it looks like this firmware also fixes gps somehow
That's it for now ;p

[Q] Should I be discouraged?

I've been a faithful Droid user for a long time now, currently using the Galaxy S4 running Nova Launcher w/ stock Android. I've recently had a Galaxy S2 i727. Owned it since it was released, LOVED that phone.. As a technical person, I decided to Root my Galaxy S2 (for the first time), and run PacMan ROM w/ whatever stock Kernel it came with (can't remember). Loved the ROM, but it was a tad bit glitchy. Long story short I tried to flash Franco Kernel, using TWRP. After it finished flashing, hit the reset button and the phone Bricked and never booted again I am sooo nervous to do anything now that it makes me sick, but the stock Android ROM is just absolutely terrible as most of you know. Has anything like this happened to anyone else before? No more upgrades and I just can't afford $640 for a new one. Any thoughts?

Read the stickies in all of the subforums and go through the forums reading as much as you can. Use to "search" function to find existing threads about the topics you want and need to know about and take your time and you will be fine.
90% of the problems people run into are because they didn't read and learn. Just about every issue you would run into has already been discovered and discussed (if not solved). Read the guides. Another 5% of the issues people come across are somewhat unique, and the last 5% are completely new (to this phone).
Don't be one of those people that make a post like, "hey guys, I'm new to this phone, what should I do?" Read the stickies, read, read, read, and use the search function and you will know what to do. Also, don't ask, What does XXXXXXX mean?" Search for the answer...it is there.
Don't be afraid, just be smart. If you take shortcuts, you will mess your phone up.
A great place to start is in the General section with all of the stickies. Because you are not new to Android, you should have a good head start. Do things the right way, and before long doing anything on the S4 will be very easy. Good luck.

I agree..do some reading..you will be ok. Its not a bad thing. Don't let the early stuff keep you from trying something..
Anyone correct me if I am wrong..but I haven't seen one hard bricked G4 yet. So, go for it.

TheAxman said:
I agree..do some reading..you will be ok. Its not a bad thing. Don't let the early stuff keep you from trying something..
Anyone correct me if I am wrong..but I haven't seen one hard bricked G4 yet. So, go for it.
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Does putting the kernel or ROM for a completely different phone (S3 for instance) still guarantee a hard brick with the S4 or is it remedied with the flashing of the correct combo? The only other thing I can think of is checking PIT in ODIN without having a PIT file. The Skyrocket would blow up when that happened.

No, I have US Cellular, I had a normal galaxy s (1) and I got ballsy and rooted and put different ROMS on it. One time I f'd up and bricked, I was like
"Oh F*&^! I am going to have to go back to my old flip phone" but thanks to the nice people on the internet people will help you out (post here on XDA or rootzwiki on the guide you followed) they will give you step by step how to do it, or at least some guy helped me.
TL;DR
YES ROOT YOUR S4
Look up At&t or whatever carrier you have and add stock firmware ex. "At&t S4 stock firmware" and just download it and you can flash that via odin if something does go wrong
Good luck

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Thanks
FNM

I think the stock ROM on the S4 is far from terrible. Mine ran especially nice after I de-bloated. However I am running Omega ROM now, but more to test out the theming capabilities.

New to XDA, ETA on custom Roms for MF3?

I understand it will be out when its out, but I just migrated from iOS and I would always see postings from certain sites on when the next Jailbreak is coming. I am getting used to Android and I was wondering if anyone has heard anything and if not is this the best place to follow to find out?

There are already mf3 based roms...check the development section
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2

milkeeway said:
I understand it will be out when its out, but I just migrated from iOS and I would always see postings from certain sites on when the next Jailbreak is coming. I am getting used to Android and I was wondering if anyone has heard anything and if not is this the best place to follow to find out?
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If you are on the AT&T S4 that has been updated to MF3 we will have to wait until a bootloader exploit is found. There is NO ETA for this and it may take a while... maybe never. Just keep an eye on one of our many bootloader threads and pledge to pay the dev if you want to help motivate.
If you are on a custom rom and waiting for more keep an eye on the development section

mg2195 said:
There are already mf3 based roms...check the development section
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2
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I think the problem is that I purchased my GS4 and it came with MF3 pre-installed. Right now they have MDL Roms with MF3 features in it. Last I checked there was no way to flash custom Roms onto a phone that has MF3 on it!

milkeeway said:
I think the problem is that I purchased my GS4 and it came with MF3 pre-installed. Right now they have MDL Roms with MF3 features in it. Last I checked there was no way to flash custom Roms onto a phone that has MF3 on it!
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then see my post. Sucks but we are locked down

milkeeway said:
I think the problem is that I purchased my GS4 and it came with MF3 pre-installed. Right now they have MDL Roms with MF3 features in it. Last I checked there was no way to flash custom Roms onto a phone that has MF3 on it!
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You are correct, there is currently not a way to flash custom roms.
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joshuadjohnson22 said:
If you are on the AT&T S4 that has been updated to MF3 we will have to wait until a bootloader exploit is found. There is NO ETA for this and it may take a while... maybe never. Just keep an eye on one of our many bootloader threads and pledge to pay the dev if you want to help motivate.
If you are on a custom rom and waiting for more keep an eye on the development section
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Thanks for that information. That is a bummer to hear the realistic possibility that it may never come. I guess I would be extremely bummed as rooting is the main reason I came to Android and bought the S4. I was naive in the sense I thought all S4 were the same. Little did I know there was so many variations. I even came to the forums before I bought it but everything seemed like a foreign language coming from iOS.
Any idea who I might be able to talk to to Pledge some cash to see that it gets worked on?
And also is there any way to see a MOD about this captcha restriction lol!

milkeeway said:
Thanks for that information. That is a bummer to hear the realistic possibility that it may never come. I guess I would be extremely bummed as rooting is the main reason I came to Android and bought the S4. I was naive in the sense I thought all S4 were the same. Little did I know there was so many variations. I even came to the forums before I bought it but everything seemed like a foreign language coming from iOS.
Any idea who I might be able to talk to to Pledge some cash to see that it gets worked on?
And also is there any way to see a MOD about this captcha restriction lol!
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Now rooting is available, but this thread is to pledge http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2361870
You can always just buy the tmobile version, they don't have a locked bootloader so you can flash away. Just a thought

joshuadjohnson22 said:
Now rooting is available, but this thread is to pledge http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2361870
You can always just buy the tmobile version, they don't have a locked bootloader so you can flash away. Just a thought
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Thanks for all that info. I am an idiot honestly that's all that can be said. I should have done a little more research before I made a purchase. I traded my iPhone 5 with a little cash on top for a brand new Galaxy S4 on AT&T (My carrier) had I known all of this before I would have searched Craigslist for a T-Mobile version and then sim unlocked it for AT&T...
Guess I learned my lesson, I really wish I could afford to go buy a T-Mobile S4 too but they sell for like $500-$600 out of contract.... Just can't do it and I am stuck with AT&T right now. Meanwhile my buddy who told me I should buy an S4 is laughing his rooted and recovered ass off right now lol...

Good to hear rooting is available

soccer_rm said:
Good to hear rooting is available
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What can you do with a root if you are not able to install custom roms?
Is there anything I could do in the meantime that would improve the functionality or performance of my phone?

milkeeway said:
What can you do with a root if you are not able to install custom roms?
Is there anything I could do in the meantime that would improve the functionality or performance of my phone?
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You can install a lot of mods which will archive a lot of the same things as a custom rom. You can remove bloat, theme, add things... it is pretty awesome. See the development sections and the themes and app sections to see all the awesome stuff. Some people always stay with stock and just add mods

milkeeway said:
What can you do with a root if you are not able to install custom roms?
Is there anything I could do in the meantime that would improve the functionality or performance of my phone?
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joshuadjohnson22 said:
You can install a lot of mods which will archive a lot of the same things as a custom rom. You can remove bloat, theme, add things... it is pretty awesome. See the development sections and the themes and app sections to see all the awesome stuff. Some people always stay with stock and just add mods
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...you can also do some serious damage, and without recovery, you can easily "Brick" your device... Please be careful what you remove/change/mod, as if you bootloop or fubar your current OS, you will NOT be able to Odin Back to stock to recover just yet...
removing some of the Samsung Apps will break things when they are removed, and TiBU can't always put them back... for now I just froze all the bloatware, and won't remove anything until there is a way to go "Back to Stock"
Hope this helps.

slyguy2000 said:
...you can also do some serious damage, and without recovery, you can easily "Brick" your device... Please be careful what you remove/change/mod, as if you bootloop or fubar your current OS, you will NOT be able to Odin Back to stock to recover just yet...
removing some of the Samsung Apps will break things when they are removed, and TiBU can't always put them back... for now I just froze all the bloatware, and won't remove anything until there is a way to go "Back to Stock"
Hope this helps.
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Those are very good points! No nandroids either. It's best not to mess with a lot of those areas unless you know what your doing.
God promised man he'd put beautiful women in all corners of the world. Then he laughed and laughed and made the world round.

slyguy2000 said:
...you can also do some serious damage, and without recovery, you can easily "Brick" your device... Please be careful what you remove/change/mod, as if you bootloop or fubar your current OS, you will NOT be able to Odin Back to stock to recover just yet...
removing some of the Samsung Apps will break things when they are removed, and TiBU can't always put them back... for now I just froze all the bloatware, and won't remove anything until there is a way to go "Back to Stock"
Hope this helps.
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Yeah, thanks for clarifying, I should also let the OP know I have the S4 Active which has the ability to ODIN back to stock if something goes wrong. I do not know if you will have that pleasure so think twice and read before trying anything

I have decided I probably won't take advantage of the root until I can safely make a recovery. I actually posted a $25.00 pledge (I know it isn't much) towards finding a fix for newer users of the S4. People who have to warranty their phones will likely have the update installed.
Crossing my fingers now.

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This would be on hold for awhile until another bootloader fix surfaces, then you will see a whole bunch of MF3 custom roms.

milkeeway said:
I have decided I probably won't take advantage of the root until I can safely make a recovery. I actually posted a $25.00 pledge (I know it isn't much) towards finding a fix for newer users of the S4. People who have to warranty their phones will likely have the update installed. Crossing my fingers now.
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That's probably a good choice and you can enjoy the S4 i337 without doing anything, it is a great phone.
Of course, rooting -basic rooting using the new technique for the MF3 rom-- seems to work well enough for many so far. So please don't view it as jumping off a cliff and hoping to find a vine on the way down or something so bleak.
For your model, which does not currently have as many recovery options as the earlier MDL versions, it certainly pays to be careful and also to understand your options for return or exchange if you do muck up the phone. The trick is to understand the specific risks up front. In this case, what can go wrong in the rooting process and how often does it seem to occur.
Read the XDA thread on this new rooting exploit for MF3 and see exactly what others did to get root without ruining their phone -and do only and exactly the steps that have worked for others. The rooting process takes only a couple of minutes --but so does bricking your phone when it rooting is done incorrectly.
The differences between success and failure are:
1. How much you understand of the procedure?
2. How much you have prepared in advance for what you are doing and trying to accomplish? and
3. How carefully and patiently are you doing each and every step of the process?
I've rooted several phones and tablets and been fortunate to get it right most of the time, or to be able to recover when I did not get it right. Unfortunately, in your case it appears that you need to get it right the first time for rooting, and many many folks have. So while this is very different from the iPhone "click on this site and you're jailbroken" approach, it is not low-percentage surgery either :good::good::fingers-crossed: So, I'd recommend that you continue to read up on that new root technique for MF3:
-- read to see how it is being accepted, what kind of feedback folks have and also
-- how safe/or comfortable folks seem to be in using it. and
-- what problems have come from trying it -bricks? soft bricks? recoverable or not?
I've read the original post (OP) on the exploit, but not all the information is in the one thread.. I am sure there are several threads that echo this development. . . Might have even more information too. After, that you will know if you want to try the rooting step. Or not.
Good Luck!
P.S.
- While root does not sound as valuable as being able to switch roms and use full customizations, it does provide quite a bit. For example: you can add (root-requiring) apps like "Titanium Backup" (which not only backsup all of your programs and data, but also can "freeze" programs that are useless and running in the background when you don't want them to do so!) Or Greenify, which has the same functionality for dealing with unwanted apps (better actually!) and apps like Cerberus to help you keep track of your phone or find it if lost.
- Rooting to add these types of add ons, without fiddling with some of the more invasive mods that others have already warned about in the other posts, may be acceptable middle ground for you -it does provide customizations for your phone without stretching the safe use limits very far.
Take your time. . . keep reading and move at your own pace. It's hard to come here, start reading and simply "get it" on first bounce. . .It's just a shame that your friend with the older S4 didn't provide a couple of hints or tips about which versions to by ("buy the red ones"... :laugh so you could have picked up one that is easily customizable. . .(of course if you are still in the 14 day window you might go back and try to exchange for another one and look for a MDL version -according to some posts they seem to be the red ones that no one wanted to buy early on . . . . hmm
Good Luck!

markbc01 said:
That's probably a good choice and you can enjoy the S4 i337 without doing anything, it is a great phone.
Of course, rooting -basic rooting my upgradeusing the new technique for the MF3 rom-- seems to work well enough for many so far. So please don't view it as jumping off a cliff and hoping to find a vine on the way down or something so bleak.
For your model, which does not currently have as many recovery options as the earlier MDL versions, it certainly pays to be careful and also to understand your options for return or exchange if you do muck up the phone. The trick is to understand the specific risks up front. In this case, what can go wrong in the rooting process and how often does it seem to occur.
Read the XDA thread on this new rooting exploit for MF3 and see exactly what others did to get root without ruining their phone -and do only and exactly the steps that have worked for others. The rooting process takes only a couple of minutes --but so does bricking your phone when it rooting is done incorrectly.
The differences between success and failure are:
1. How much you understand of the procedure?
2. How much you have prepared in advance for what you are doing and trying to accomplish? and
3. How carefully and patiently are you doing each and every step of the process?
I've rooted several phones and tablets and been fortunate to get it right most of the time, or to be able to recover when I did not get it right. Unfortunately, in your case it appears that you need to get it right the first time for rooting, and many many folks have. So while this is very different from the iPhone "click on this site and you're jailbroken" approach, it is not low-percentage surgery either :good::good::fingers-crossed: So, I'd recommend that you continue to read up on that new root technique for MF3:
-- read to see how it is being accepted, what kind of feedback folks have and also
-- how safe/or comfortable folks seem to be in using it. and
-- what problems have come from trying it -bricks? soft bricks? recoverable or not?
I've read the original post (OP) on the exploit, but not all the information is in the one thread.. I am sure there are several threads that echo this development. . . Might have even more information too. After, that you will know if you want to try the rooting step. Or not.
Good Luck!
P.S.
- While root does not sound as valuable as being able to switch roms and use full customizations, it does provide quite a bit. For example: you can add (root-requiring) apps like "Titanium Backup" (which not only backsup all of your programs and data, but also can "freeze" programs that are useless and running in the background when you don't want them to do so!) Or Greenify, which has the same functionality for dealing with unwanted apps (better actually!) and apps like Cerberus to help you keep track of your phone or find it if lost.
- Rooting to add these types of add ons, without fiddling with some of the more invasive mods that others have already warned about in the other posts, may be acceptable middle ground for you -it does provide customizations for your phone without stretching the safe use limits very far.
Take your time. . . keep reading and move at your own pace. It's hard to come here, start reading and simply "get it" on first bounce. . .It's just a shame that your friend with the older S4 didn't provide a couple of hints or tips about which versions to by ("buy the red ones"... :laugh so you could have picked up one that is easily customizable. . .(of course if you are still in the 14 day window you might go back and try to exchange for another one and look for a MDL version -according to some posts they seem to be the red ones that no one wanted to buy early on . . . . hmm
Good Luck!
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Well my Galaxy S4 on MF3 I actually bought on craigslist so the only exchange options are through the manufacturer. What I ended up doing was going to AT&T and using my upgrade to buy another S4 I just told the sales Representative to look on the side of the box for MDL software version or I was not going to upgrade. He was happy to make the sale. Now I have two s4

[Q] Brick after loading cm d802 on verizon phone

sigh let's start the horror story. So I rooted my verizon LG G2 (VS980) phone yesterday using this guide:
http://theunlockr.com/2013/10/25/root-lg-g2-versions-video/
I found that pretty easy so i decide to then be more adventurous and load cyanogenmod 10.2 on my phone since I heard it was officially on nightly release for verizon phones. So then i came across this youtube video explaining how to do this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s3eO-jvNWk
I make 3 mistakes in this process:
1. i don't do the settings part
2. i don't wipe the phone
3. and most importantly i download the wrong cyanogenmod 10.2 version. I put the 802 international version on it instead of the verizon version.
Now my phone is stuck with fastboot with a black screen.
I can go into download mode and have tried the following guides:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432476
In this one it gets stuck at 49% loading when i use the verizon version
the second:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448960
here when i start to load it says my device is the wrong model because i loaded the wrong cyanogenmod
Now that i know why my phone wouldn't load the verizon rom (because i had cyanogenmod 802 international). I have successfully loaded the stock 802 rom on my phone. the bad part is the touch screen is all wacky and i can't get into setting to go into developer mode and finally fix my phone.
Any ideas on where i can go from here? If i could just get into developer mode i can restore everything by loading TWRP then loading the cyanogenmod for verizon.

Just an idea, but maybe you could use a mouse via OTG in the meantime.

Abnovitas said:
Just an idea, but maybe you could use a mouse via OTG in the meantime.
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thanks i didnt know i could use a mouse. I will try to find a cable that will allow me to do that.

I was able to help a few peeps with the same prob get back to stock. Pm me if you need help.

some updates.
I didn't get the mouse to help me around the touch screen. I just memorized where all the new locations where for example the middle of the screen clicked the bottom left
I have been able to get this european 820 stock ROM running on my verizon phone and have it in debugging mode.
All the other flash methods are failing me because i get "different model" error.
I'm currently trying to update my build.prop file so i can get the other flash methods to work since this is the file they are looking at to see if it's ok to flash with the rom you have select. Personally i find that kinda silly. I mean i'm flashing the thing give me an option that say "are you sure you want to do this? you are about to flash your phone with an compatible rom". Yes i'm aware i put the wrong rom on the thing now flash my phone with this one.
Oh it would be great if someone out there could post me their verizon build.prop. Would really appreciate that.

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don't change the build.prop model number to VS-980. my phone is now in a reboot cycle.
I can get into download mode but i fear that i still won't be able to flash with the right rom because that build.prop is wrong. can i skip this verification step?
I also have twrp running but again it's the European version so the touch screen doesn't work properly. i can't swipe across to do anything even if i wanted to.

I would just do this and start over...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448960

WHY?
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don't change the build.prop model number to VS-980. my phone is now in a reboot cycle.
I can get into download mode but i fear that i still won't be able to flash with the right rom because that build.prop is wrong. can i skip this verification step?
I also have twrp running but again it's the European version so the touch screen doesn't work properly. i can't swipe across to do anything even if i wanted to.
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I can't help myself, I have to speak up..
nothing against the OP BUT this is exactly why I DO NOT try to do this stuff. There's really no benefit that the stock ROM on this phone cannot do...and more...and I read so many reports of people turning their beautifully working phones into little black plastic paper weights. Simply not worth the trouble, time, and possible money :silly: to get a little more screen space, or a smaller NAV bar, or whatever.
And then so many people want KIT-KAT...WHY? Will it REALLY be that much better than what this thing can do now? Or will it just introduce BUGS like every other update always does to an android device? If, and when this phone gets an update to KIT-KAT or whatever version they decide upon, and it actually works without new bugs, then I will be pleasantly surprised. Here we have what just might be the best android phone to land on earth so far, and people want to "improve" it??? My $0.02

jaseman said:
I can't help myself, I have to speak up..
nothing against the OP BUT this is exactly why I DO NOT try to do this stuff. There's really no benefit that the stock ROM on this phone cannot do...and more...and I read so many reports of people turning their beautifully working phones into little black plastic paper weights. Simply not worth the trouble, time, and possible money :silly: to get a little more screen space, or a smaller NAV bar, or whatever.
And then so many people want KIT-KAT...WHY? Will it REALLY be that much better than what this thing can do now? Or will it just introduce BUGS like every other update always does to an android device? If, and when this phone gets an update to KIT-KAT or whatever version they decide upon, and it actually works without new bugs, then I will be pleasantly surprised. Here we have what just might be the best android phone to land on earth so far, and people want to "improve" it??? My $0.02
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Totally unnecessary to make this post. Unless you have something to contribute regarding the prob at hand, please keep your opinion to yourself. The point of these forums is to ask questions and provide help when possible. If you wish to voice you're opinion, I suggest you start your own thread.

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jaseman said:
I can't help myself, I have to speak up..
nothing against the OP BUT this is exactly why I DO NOT try to do this stuff. There's really no benefit that the stock ROM on this phone cannot do...and more...and I read so many reports of people turning their beautifully working phones into little black plastic paper weights. Simply not worth the trouble, time, and possible money :silly: to get a little more screen space, or a smaller NAV bar, or whatever.
And then so many people want KIT-KAT...WHY? Will it REALLY be that much better than what this thing can do now? Or will it just introduce BUGS like every other update always does to an android device? If, and when this phone gets an update to KIT-KAT or whatever version they decide upon, and it actually works without new bugs, then I will be pleasantly surprised. Here we have what just might be the best android phone to land on earth so far, and people want to "improve" it??? My $0.02
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I can't speak to everyone else's why but I do it because I'm an engineer and here is what i mean by that. Ever since I was a little kid I would mess around with stuff even though I had no clue what i was doing. I remember the first time I took apart a stereo was because our living stereo broke (the CD player wouldn't play anymore and that's what it was used for mostly). I told my mom not to throw it away so I could see if I could fix it. I was maybe 10 at the time so of course she knew i couldn't possibly fix but she let me. In the end I couldn't fix it (hell i had screws left over) but it was just fun looking around and exploring. As I grew I still kept doing the same thing, taking things apart and explore. Sometimes I can improve the thing I took apart other times I completely break it but most of the time I can just put it back the way it was originally. That's my why.

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I can't speak to everyone else's why but I do it because I'm an engineer and here is what i mean by that. Ever since I was a little kid I would mess around with stuff even though I had no clue what i was doing. I remember the first time I took apart a stereo was because our living stereo broke (the CD player wouldn't play anymore and that's what it was used for mostly). I told my mom not to throw it away so I could see if I could fix it. I was maybe 10 at the time so of course she knew i couldn't possibly fix but she let me. In the end I couldn't fix it (hell i had screws left over) but it was just fun looking around and exploring. As I grew I still kept doing the same thing, taking things apart and explore. Sometimes I can improve the thing I took apart other times I completely break it but most of the time I can just put it back the way it was originally. That's my why.
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Sounds like my childhood and I'm an engineer aswell.
Software to me is pure magic, but I'm very happy there's people that can code Roms.
Good luck mate.
Once you fix your phone and it's back to stock it will feel better than sex.
Keep stock for a couple of days and that itching feeling of "i need to do something with this" is gonna come creeping back

elseif said:
I can't speak to everyone else's why but I do it because I'm an engineer and here is what i mean by that. Ever since I was a little kid I would mess around with stuff even though I had no clue what i was doing. I remember the first time I took apart a stereo was because our living stereo broke (the CD player wouldn't play anymore and that's what it was used for mostly). I told my mom not to throw it away so I could see if I could fix it. I was maybe 10 at the time so of course she knew i couldn't possibly fix but she let me. In the end I couldn't fix it (hell i had screws left over) but it was just fun looking around and exploring. As I grew I still kept doing the same thing, taking things apart and explore. Sometimes I can improve the thing I took apart other times I completely break it but most of the time I can just put it back the way it was originally. That's my why.
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I feel you pal. But i also got the point of the other guy. But is in OUR vines to mess things around and turn in back. lol. Bout your concern, i think there is a thread here that got it working. Just try searching in Q & A thread. Maybe search "brick"? Read everything you can read. I'll help and comeback when i see it.
Try here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2534511&highlight=brick
Same issue. Fastboot mode.
Also here its a guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471370&page=2

jaseman said:
I can't help myself, I have to speak up..
nothing against the OP BUT this is exactly why I DO NOT try to do this stuff. There's really no benefit that the stock ROM on this phone cannot do...and more...and I read so many reports of people turning their beautifully working phones into little black plastic paper weights. Simply not worth the trouble, time, and possible money :silly: to get a little more screen space, or a smaller NAV bar, or whatever.
And then so many people want KIT-KAT...WHY? Will it REALLY be that much better than what this thing can do now? Or will it just introduce BUGS like every other update always does to an android device? If, and when this phone gets an update to KIT-KAT or whatever version they decide upon, and it actually works without new bugs, then I will be pleasantly surprised. Here we have what just might be the best android phone to land on earth so far, and people want to "improve" it??? My $0.02
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I am horribly confused as to why you are an XDA member. :-/
Support your Devs......

I'm having the same problem and haven't been able to get it to work. As soon as I flash the stock d802 (my phone is really d803 but I had a d802 custom rom on it before) the touch screen goes all weird and my phone keeps restarting.

[Q] Note 3 4.4.4 ROOT Assistance

Okay, let me start my making a few points first.
1. I just had to retype all of this because of the silly Im not a robot thing.
2. I just joined, yes. I was reading without an account but because I needed help I had to make one. I didnt just waltz in with my question and make an account to be lazy.
3. I dont know what Im doing. I know very little about rooting and little about this forum beyond me reading the posts. Please go easy on me if anything I say or ask is dumb, or if Im breaking any rules. And if Im asking in the wrong place, tell me how and where to move it or help me by doing it yourself if you can. I know a lot of you have been here for some time and new people probably annoy you a lot, Im not trying to.
4. I looked EVERYWHERE. I clicked on a million google links, I read the first several pages of this section, and I did a seperate search on this forum and read those first few pages. I wouldnt ask if I hadnt already tried to find out on my own. I couldnt find anything. I didnt want to post here because I know Id probably have to wait for the right answer if one ever even came and I honestly dont like having to be patient. I would have much rather figured it out on my own. So please dont assume Im stupid or lazy.
5. Im not trying to assume you guys are rude and would be rude to me, Im just not sure and I know its annoying to have a forum full of well versed people and have to direct a noob and save them.
Anyways, I have a Verizon Note 3 on 4.4.4. The last 3 digits of my build number/baseband version are NJ6. Let me know if you need any other information, as Im honestly not sure whats relevant. Ive been trying to figure out how to root my phone for days. I havent been able to find anything for my specific phone. I know Ive seen people whove said theyve rooted 4.4.4 but they either didnt have the same device on the same carrier or they didnt say how. I tried Towelroot and Kingo, neither worked. I havent tried CF auto root because I think you have to restore your device or delete everything and I dont want to do that and have it not work. I also have insurance through Verizon so tripping KNOX doesnt concern me. (when you bring in a broken phone they only check for cracks and broken parts, nothing internal, dont even plug it in. Then they overnight you a new/refurbished one and you send yours back with the same packaging. No checking for root or anything.)
Now, I have 3 main questions here.
1. Can I root my phone on 4.4.4? It needs to specifically work for 4.4.4 on Verizon. If yes, please tell me how and provide links/instructions if you can. Remember, KNOX or not, doesnt matter. I dont care if I have to delete everything either, as long as it works.
2. If I restore my phone to factory settings, will it reboot in 4.4.4 still? Or will it return to 4.4.2 like when I bought it? Im kind of doubting it as a lot of people have bricked attempting to downgrade, so I think they wouldnt have downgraded could they have just restored. Also I know the new KNOX keeps the bootloader locked and prevents any older versions, so I would think it wouldnt allow a phone to restore to an older software. But I dont know, otherwise I wouldnt ask.
3. This one is specifically for Verizon. If anyone knows. I have actually planned on taking my phone in and getting a replacement as my usb port has been loose and the connection goes in and out, very stressful when youre almost done with a backup thats taken several hours. But if I were to do this, would the new phone I received arrive with 4.4.2? Or 4.4.4? Or is it up to chance? I know they probably send out refurbished models to make/save money so part of me thinks the phones wouldnt have been created with 4.4.4, and would still have 4.4.2 since the new parts are surrounding an old phone. Then again, Verizon sells some Notes with 4.4.4 now I think so I imagine they might just upgrade the refurbished as well while theyre at it. I dont know.
I have been very frustrated with all of this and help would really brighten up my week. I can live without a rooted phone but I do want it to be rooted and not being sure whether or not I can do it is really irritating. I also dont like waiting if I can help it.
Thank you all, I hope Ive provided enough information!

Welcome! There are a lot of great people on here that can help.
I dont think root is available yet for 4.4.4.
If you are on 4.4.4 and do a factory reset, you will still be on that version.
You might check another USB cable. I have what you describe happen from time to time and it's always been the cable that wears out. If not, you want to do an exchange before messing with root.

No root possible yet. Come back in a few months hopefully we will have it by then

Thank you! I really appreciate it, I honestly wasnt expecting any answers so quickly.
Ive tried a few different cords and its pretty much stayed the same. Its not a big deal because i usually just charge at night, I have a 10000 mAh battery haha. But if it gets worse i probably will take it in, for some reason it actually seems as if its gotten better. I might call and ask which software version is sent out with refurbished phones.
Honestly though i wish they would allow you to downgrade because since the update, ive had even worse service. Right now Im at a friends apartment and i normally dont even get 3g here but for the past two hours Ive had the big no service symbol up there. Luckily he has wifi. My service at home has always been shady as well and it has gotten worse but its not this bad thank god.
Ill just have to check back once in a while until i can root i suppose. But by then 5.0 might even be out, but im not exactly excited about that haha.
But thank you guys, youre awesome!
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Welcome! There are a lot of great people on here that can help.
I dont think root is available yet for 4.4.4.
If you are on 4.4.4 and do a factory reset, you will still be on that version.
You might check another USB cable. I have what you describe happen from time to time and it's always been the cable that wears out. If not, you want to do an exchange before messing with root.
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