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Note is 3 months old.
First month (November to Christmas eve) some crucial development like rooting and initial development of ROMs happens. Chainfire, SheepROM, FM kernel and new RocketROM are what I read about while I wait for my online purchased Note to arrive in the mail.
Second month, December is when things kick off. Huge development kicks off. Very unstable. Lots of experimentation, problems, fixes. Rocket ROM goes from V5 through a new version every three or two days. Newbies can't keep up with learning AND testing before new versions are out. Too much new stuff. A good problem to have like too much money
Third month, Christmas through January. ROMs have grown and matured. Eyebee burns himself out from frantic Rocket ROM dev up to V20 and other ROMs have cross polinated features. New big name developers have joined us like CheckROM team, JKay, Hardcore, Tegrak, etc. And the Kernel continues being advanced by Angelom now to 3.5b
We are in a new phase. Probably last month before ICS comes out. Final quarter. Now is the time we can have it all in one ROM. Fast, cool, long battery, call recording, bluetooth headset and music, fast waking, dual core, fast GPU, 6 columns, fast scrolling, RTL, menu toggles...
So what is the best ROM now?
Which ROMs are great and what are their features? What things do they lack which could make them number 1 ROM once added?
I'm running Cassies Xtralite V6. Its kept overheat under control. And as we speak I'm downloading Cassies V7 and Chracks V10. Abyss 3.5b is already waiting to be tested when those are done. I hope no one calls me and interupts me from using my phone ;-)
So many choices. But working together we save a lot of time :-D
ICS will be way cool. But by the time it gets here we will already have awesome phones with customised GingerBread. Maybe I'll wait for month 2 of ICS before I get back onto ROM merry go round.
Rocket ICS V32?
My HD2 would have been useless without a custom Rom,as for the GNote I am still a bit skeptical as I haven't had big issues except some lag in opening certain apps .Mind you I haven't even had it rooted yet.
However it was nice of you to keep us updated with the latest Rom developments,and hope you keep on doing so from time to time in case some of us decide to jump.
Jack
Nothings better then stock Rom and manual tweaks. No tacky themes here
GALAXY NOTE
Rocket, baby...
pjm77 said:
Rocket, baby...
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I was kind of hoping for a longer explanation
Just switched from the SGS II to the Note last night. I like it, the screen is nice with the Hi Res, but kinda also not liking the Pentile thing. Never the less, I miss my SGS II because of the sentimental reasons. THE NOTE is a beast.
The first thing I did was pop on CheckROM. On my SGS II, it was very stable.
I saw some lag with the stock rom, after a clean up and CheckROM install, the lag was gone.
I look forward to seeing some great development for this device.
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The first thing I did was pop on CheckROM. On my SGS II, it was very stable.
I saw some lag with the stock rom, after a clean up and CheckROM install, the lag was gone.
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How does the Note with CheckROM compare to the GS2 with CheckROM?
Any room for improvement that another ROM could be better, or is it just a personal preference on looks?
Well, I was not a fan of Custom roms, I usually used to root and do the manual tweaks. But CheckROM / Custom Roms do that among other things like Deodex. This also optimizes the ROM for better performance and better battery.
I have not used any other ROM on the Note since I just got it yesterday. Also Kernels allow functionalities to extend support to BLN, Overclock / undervolt.
I think CheckROM on the SGS II was fantastic, and the CheckROM on the Note is also good, but the amount of support for the SGS II will obviously be larger than the Note.
I think you should try out a few large fan following roms to see which one suits you. For me, I like the option of Standby battery life, and CheckROM did the trick on the SGS II. We will wait and see how it works on the Note.
Give it a try.
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I was kind of hoping for a longer explanation
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+1
As cyanogenmod 9 is still in its early stages (and I come from the nexus one, having used a sh*tload of roms) I really would like some advice on which Note rom to try. As far as this thread goes, I'm starting to believe the default rom is still the best... and if there are already some other roms worthwhile please let us know with a few lines of extra comment. Would be appreciated a lot!
Thx
Well, if you go to the Android Development section for the Galaxy Note, you will see that there are a few roms available.
Darky Rom
CheckROM
CM9 Experimental
and a few others.
Most of them are based upon Samsung's ROM with fixes / tweaks. Currently, thats the only way to mod and for the most part is stable.
I thought I would pitch in with my story on the Galaxy Note. Paid about $800 for a white unlocked Galaxy Note, shipped, on Amazon US. I was very impressed with the build quality, except for a sneakily creaky back panel. Fixed it with a little sticky note taped to the back cover. No micro-patterns on the back cover though, just plain old gloss. It was meant for Germany and came with the new KL7 kernel. I've had it for about 36 hours now. I tried atleast 3 different kernels, about 5 or so stock ROMs, and another 4 or so custom ROMs. I ran a whole lot of AnTuTu and found out that RocketROM + Abyss 3.5b had the best score of about 6900. All the stock ROMs i tried gave me about 5300 with CF-Root kernel. With Abyss stock ROMs gave me 5800. Not bad at all. Even after trying out all possible combinations, I was VERY disappointed. Even with all the cutting edge hardware, the overall experience was mediocre at best. Laggy in all the wrong places, including XDA wiki. So.. I was mad. I was about to give up on the Note for being a complete hype. But then I remembered how well cyanogenmod runs (still) on my HTC Magic and HTC HD2. So I downloaded the CM9 ICS alpha. It's about one fifth the size of any stock ROM. But boy oh boy. THIS is what the NOTE was made for. It's so snappy that sometimes I fall behind on it. lol. And it looks absolutely brilliant. Total eye candy. The HD Super AMOLED feels like it's gonna slap you in the face. The bluetooth and camera are not functional, but this is just too good to miss. USB mass storage is also gone. But you can always boot into clockworkmod and get on mass storage there. It does not, however, provide access to the microsd card. But if you absolutely have to, I have managed to get QtADB to work for file transfer. QtADB also lets you work with the microsd. Other than that the whole ICS experience is quite amazing. I ran GTA 3 on the ICS and it didn't perform as well as it did on Rocket + Abyss. But it's worth mentioning that 'Shadowgun', which is supposed to be optimized for Mali-400, ran very well. So, yeah, you guys GOT to give CM9 ICS a try. I am hopping ship right now because I won't have to worry about migrating to ICS after I have spent weeks on Gingerbread. I might as well get ICS now and use TitaniumBackup But I don't think there is ANY gingerbread ROM right now that can hold a candle to this supposed 'ALPHA' release. The one problem that has been bothering me though is that the music skips whenever I use the volume buttons. Happens only with earphones. But I can live with it
Edit - I just ran AnTuTu on it. Got a respectable 5700.
BTW, overclocking on the Abyss is very unstable. Always kept crashing, even with relatively small increments in clock speed.
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Also... if anyone runs into graphical glitches in Music, there is an easy fix for it. Go to Settings-->Developer options-->'Force GPU rendering' and enable it.
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Well, if you go to the Android Development section for the Galaxy Note, you will see that there are a few roms available.
Darky Rom
CheckROM
CM9 Experimental
and a few others.
Most of them are based upon Samsung's ROM with fixes / tweaks. Currently, thats the only way to mod and for the most part is stable.
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Thanks for the feedback... have another question though, what ROM do you use and/or would recommend?
I love(d) CM7 on my Nexus One... and would love to try CM9, but the camera not working is just too big of drawback for me at the moment.
I guess judging by the view count that rocket rom is a good option... maybe I'll try that one first.
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I thought I would pitch in with my story on the Galaxy Note.. etc etc..
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I have to second this. CM9, even in its current form, is leaps and bounds ahead of any of the GB ROM's. It really makes the Note feel like a new phone.
Missing S-Pen functionality and camera made me return to gingerbread, and I'm now running cassie's v6, which is great. I miss ICS on a daily basis though, and can't wait till it becomes my daily ROM.
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OMG, great to hear CM is again being such an awesome ROM can't wait for the camera fix....
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I have to second this. CM9, even in its current form, is leaps and bounds ahead of any of the GB ROM's. It really makes the Note feel like a new phone.
Missing S-Pen functionality and camera made me return to gingerbread, and I'm now running cassie's v6, which is great. I miss ICS on a daily basis though, and can't wait till it becomes my daily ROM.
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cassie's v6 > Rocket Rom in your opinion? if so I'll try that one first I guess
The Note is very nice but software let it down.
My prior SGS II was much snappier with miui on it.
I use Rocket ROM, it is ok but it cannot be compared with cm9 or miui.
I can't wait for one of these Roms to do justice to do to the Note.
Drane said:
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(and I come from the nexus one, having used a sh*tload of roms) I really would like some advice on which Note rom to try.
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I also came from the Nexus One so I know what you mean. Here the ROMs don't seem to fully replace the system the way it does on the N1. So if you get 5 phones, wipe them and install for example Rocket ROM on all of them, they could be different. You may have differences that result in overheat problems. Somehow a wipe is not a wipe.
I will be trying out Darky3.1, Alpha Never Dies, Chrack4.1, Cassies V7, CheckROM V5 and maybe Rocket V20
What I will be looking for firstly that each candidate does not cook my phone, second phone recording works, third smoothness and speed, and fourth pretty pictures.
On Nexus One it is easy. But strangely on the Note wierd battery drain and overheat problems can appear from a ROM and not be fixed by simply replacing it.
Voodoo.
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I will be trying out Darky3.1, Alpha Never Dies, Chrack4.1, Cassies V7, CheckROM V5 and maybe Rocket V20
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Would be AWESOME if you could post your findings on the various ROM's here. A single line of comment would be more then enough to make me (and perhaps a lot of other Note users too) happy. I'll do so too if I might start flashing some ROM's anytime soon.
Best wishes,
Jochen
Ok so referring the note to a turd might be a bit over the top, but with my first day going from gingerbread to ics I have to voice my opinions.
When I first booted it up this morning I was underwhelmed. I'm coming from a desire z with asop ics which is a fantastic device, still smooth and great all round.
With GB everything was ugly to start off with, and the general performance felt a step down from my modded desire z (truly a credit to the developers). The browser was clunky (even in opera mobile) , the whites were more yellow than I expected, the was quite some lag waking it up and audio with headphones was terrible. I gave the desire z credit for its audio quality, I'm no audiophile but the difference was massive and it was actually painful to listen to the songs I used to love.
Now I'm using the latest stunner and the difference is unreal, it has literally transformed the phone. Everything is faster, this is how the note should have been in the first place. I was gutted with the audio performance on GB, even tweaking the equaliser in power amp couldn't get me to an acceptable quality. Well somehow the dev's have done it again. In ICS the clarity and range is even slightly better than on my desire z, something I never expected.
I tested the Note in store before I brought it and it was terrible on the stock rom there, who knows why people would buy it (I'm talking a 1 second delay between swiping and recognition) but I had faith in the developers and it's paid off.
This is mainly for those pondering on whether they should get the note because of initial bad reviews on the audio and using the stock rom. The audio and general performance is now fantastic on ICS.
I feel sorry for the many out there on the stock rom, here's to you developers.
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Thanks for your opinion that 5 million people like to buy turds at $600+ a pop
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Ok so referring the note to a turd might be a bit over the top,
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shure2 said:
Ok so referring the note to a turd might be a bit over the top, but with my first day going from gingerbread to ics I have to voice my opinions.
When I first booted it up this morning I was underwhelmed. I'm coming from a desire z with asop ics which is a fantastic device, still smooth and great all round.
With GB everything was ugly to start off with, and the general performance felt a step down from my modded desire z (truly a credit to the developers). The browser was clunky (even in opera mobile) , the whites were more yellow than I expected, the was quite some lag waking it up and audio with headphones was terrible. I gave the desire z credit for its audio quality, I'm no audiophile but the difference was massive and it was actually painful to listen to the songs I used to love.
Now I'm using the latest shutter and the difference is unreal, it has literally transformed the phone. Everything is faster, this is how the note should have been in the first place. I was gutted with the audio performance on GB, even tweaking the equaliser in power amp couldn't get me to an acceptable quality. Well somehow the dev's have done it again. In ICS the clarity and range is even slightly better than on my desire z, something I never expected.
I tested the Note in store before I brought it and it was terrible on the stock rom there, who knows why people would buy it (I'm talking a 1 second delay between swiping and recognition) but I had faith in the developers and it's paid off.
This is mainly for those pondering on whether they should get the note because of initial bad reviews on the audio and using the stock rom. The audio and general performance is now fantastic on ICS.
I feel sorry for the many out there on the stock rom, here's to you developers.
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Even though I agree that ICS on the Note is very neat and improves many aspects of the device, at least in my case Gingerbread was not that bad either!
Perhaps the only gripe was the small lag on wake, but other than that it was buttery-smooth out of the box and after the 380+ apps I usually end up installing.
I think it all comes down to what your carrier have done to it and what firmware version you got it with in the first place.
Cheers!
I wouldn't call The note a turd!! ,it is a bit slower than the unrealistically buttery smooth SGS2 but not by much.
and since the sgs2 was more smooth than an Iphone4 (my own experience) ,then I'd say that the note is doing just fine on GB.
although ,I'm really looking forward to trying ICS ,it's just the Idea of me flashing ICS bootloaders for a "beta" that's putting me off ,or have I got this part wrong ,and I don't need to change bootloaders?
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...When I first booted it up this morning...
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I'd like to thank you for observing the advantages of ICS Stunner over the stock GB rom for such a long time, thats what i would like to call an an excellent base for judging a hole rom. this will make my decision much easier.
A turd really a bit too much but I do agree with OP, gingerbread Note left many things to be desired and I am on ICS stunner now, only thing I missed is full function S-pen.
I do hate touchwiz in guts. It does nothing but crap out our beautiful Note
If I had to choose , HTC has best software development for proprietary software user experience. While Samsung has the best specced hardware.
Note with pure aosp/aokp ICS is the best phone available today
Just my opinion.
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I love ics but if gb could get tablet mode I could care less about ics.
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You think the Note is a turd on GB?
Try coming from over a year with a Dell Streak stuck at 2.2.2
THAT was painful!
The note with GB 2.3.6, and Go Launcher EX, FLIES...at least it does for me.
Haha yep I had a Streak over the year and it was developer Dj_Steve that saved it for as long as it did. Even though the Note is better in most regards if got a soft spot for it as it was my first real awesome device. Why? Because it was 5 inches Never selling that, great memories.
There was only one reason that prevented me from getting the Note on release and that was touchwiz. But a couple of months ago I got one and enjoying it. Waiting patiently for ics but most likely once the spen apps work on osap ill move to that. I just love the experience of vanilla android that I had on my Streak.
Well stock GB left much to be desired but after the Devs did their magic it was great. Going to ICS and Stunner made my Note just the way I wanted it. But overall the phone was always a winner to me just for screen size alone lol but I do miss the S-pen apps.
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100% agreed. I didn't buy the Note because of Touchwiz or the S-Pen really...I bought it for its awesome screen. As an Android fanatic, knowing that I could change the firmware to whatever I wanted, made it an easy buy. Most "normal" people couldn't tell you what phone they have let alone what version of Android they have, if they even know it's an Android phone to begin with. But I feel even to people like this, Touchwiz is something of a joke. It's butt-assed ugly, laggy, and just a UI disaster in general. If I was stuck with what Samsung offered me, I wouldn't have ever bought the Note in the first place.
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I'd like to thank you for observing the advantages of ICS Stunner over the stock GB rom for such a long time, thats what i would like to call an an excellent base for judging a hole rom. this will make my decision much easier.
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I spent half the day using apps I would normally use (xda, opera, youtube, bbc app etc) and every single one was faster on my desire z with a custom rom (no games however). For me it doesn't take days to work out how good a rom is, I've been a serial flasher for years, and I'm sure lots of others can work out how good a rom is in a few hours. Maybe the desire z is an unfair comparison because it's so good when modded? But this has twice the ram, probably nearly twice the cpu performance so I was expecting a great performance out of the box.
Maybe I got a dud stock rom? (la6) If I'd have heard the headset quality in the store I wouldn't have brought it, but it's massively improved in ICS which I haven't seen said here. Obviously this is all down to personal preference, but the distortion and lifeless high ends were very noticeable before.
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The Mighty TouchWiz
smalmagal said:
But I feel even to people like this, Touchwiz is something of a joke. It's butt-assed ugly, laggy, and just a UI disaster in general.
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This is slightly OT now, but I just want to leave a comment on that (of course, this is not going against your opinion smalgal ): I´m not really into TW as well, just because of the one fact that Ißm using my note on smaller DPI settings, where TW really doesn´t make sense anymore.
But beside that I want to get the facts straight (at least imao): TW is far from being laggy or a UI disaster. Quite the opposite: It seems like TouchWiz is by far the most stable launcher I ever came across. I have used a tons of devices now, including the mighty SGSII (which was the fastest till today). And even though Go Launcher Ex, Apex Launcher (on ICS) and a bunch of other good launchers are fast as well, none of them gives me the same stability and reliability like TouchWiz does.
Fastest wakeup from standby, absolutely NO launcher crash, absolutely NO launcher reload, nothing...just working.
Of course, there are some things they really should FINALLY include like compatibility with lower DPI settings, personalized sort order in the drawer etc.
But laggy? Absolutely not.
I myself like the TW,here is what I am gonna do:Wait for the official ICS to be released,and after that will get the best custom ROM based on it with least bloatware,and flash.,of course will make sure that I test all of them first and get whatever suits me the best.
Thats what I did with my HD2,and PDA2K long time ago,and was very happy,on my HD2 I have chosen one of the least known ROMs but very light CleaNex STD,and couldnt be happier.
And plaease dont come out and advice me that that kind of ICS ROM already exists for the Note,this is a personal approach and I am willing to wait.
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I tested the Note in store before I brought it and it was terrible on the stock rom there, who knows why people would buy it...
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And yet you bought one!
So maybe a lot of us are expecting great things from devs and the ICS stock build when it eventually arrives!
"but I do miss the s-pen apps".
Well why not just flash a rom that supports them, try it out, see how you go! If you don't like it, just go back to stunner.
I'm using midnote1.0. I believe you can use alba aswell. S-pen apps are working very well. For me, ICS is a massive improvement on GB. Everything is working instantly, and properly too. It really makes a difference.
GAH. Comparing stock anything to an XDA custom Rom isn't fair for a start. Put the latest RocketROM GB v23 up against Stunner and we'll see a contest.
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This is slightly OT now, but I just want to leave a comment on that (of course, this is not going against your opinion smalgal ): I´m not really into TW as well, just because of the one fact that Ißm using my note on smaller DPI settings, where TW really doesn´t make sense anymore.
But beside that I want to get the facts straight (at least imao): TW is far from being laggy or a UI disaster. Quite the opposite: It seems like TouchWiz is by far the most stable launcher I ever came across. I have used a tons of devices now, including the mighty SGSII (which was the fastest till today). And even though Go Launcher Ex, Apex Launcher (on ICS) and a bunch of other good launchers are fast as well, none of them gives me the same stability and reliability like TouchWiz does.
Fastest wakeup from standby, absolutely NO launcher crash, absolutely NO launcher reload, nothing...just working.
Of course, there are some things they really should FINALLY include like compatibility with lower DPI settings, personalized sort order in the drawer etc.
But laggy? Absolutely not.
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TW is not that ugly , and it's definitely not laggy at all ,like you mentioned it's actually the smoothest launcher of them all.
But to be honest ,TW on the note is not as smooth as TW on the SGS2 ,actually the whole stock experience is a lot less refined than the SGS2 ,the launcher tends to reload on the note when a heavy app is loaded ,and that never ever faced me on the SGS2 before.
and since the note's hardware is on par with the S2 ,I'm actually very excited to what improvements ICS will bring along , in comparision I wasn't excited at all for the S2 ICS update cause it was perfect as it is.
but That's not to say the note is a turd to begin with ,far from it actually.
No, you don´t mess with the bootloader by installing ICS stunner. If you mess up your Note, you can allways flash a stock rom through PC Odin and start over.
This was a reply to post #4
Touchwiz is more than just a "launcher." It's a complete UI overlay...and it's ugly, and it's laggy. Maybe I didn't get the same phone everyone else did, no? Touchwiz launcher itself is clumsy and slow, and I personally think it's terrible. I don't know where you people getting off saying it's the best launcher you've ever used. Have you tried them all?
I thought i would share becacuse i never saw people mention how amazing this phone is on custom rom, probably because satisfied people usually have no need to and simply enjoy their phone.. And i thought i'll create this thread to make those who are a bit insecure (which i was at first) feel more secure.
At first i wanted to download Android L (stock version from LG). Knowing that the bumped liquidSmooth rom is comptabile with my phone i flashed it. Didn't realize it wasn't LG's stock version so i can't comment on it just yet. But one thing i want people to know is that this DEVICE FLIES. It's so freaking fast, it's incredible. I've just rooted, installed twrp and liquidsmooth rom. If i flash again it will be in about an hour or two from now for testing purposes or just skip all of that untill tomorrow. So far i must say i'm verrrrry surprised and so happy to see that it's not the phone's resolution nor hardware that's holding it back, but the software - so to those experiencing lag, lets wait for LG to sort things out. This is a confirmation i needed and maybe many of you out there with the occasional lag, like i had, wanted to hear/know about.
So to not bore you guys too much with my talk, i'll keep it short and simple.
SNAPPY, BUTTERY SMOOTH and RESPONSIVE.
Love this device and faith restored.
definitely !
i was starting to think maybe i should compromise for a nice and crisp picture but laggy as f*** user experience .
after 3 buggy roms that i tried , i am now with androidnow HD 6.1 , and since then i realized that LG freakin SUCK when it comes to software .
subwoffer13 said:
definitely !
i was starting to think maybe i should compromise for a nice and crisp picture but laggy as f*** user experience .
after 3 buggy roms that i tried , i am now with androidnow HD 6.1 , and since then i realized that LG freakin SUCK when it comes to software .
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Heh, yeah. Well they are primarily a hardware company so not too surprising.
subwoffer13 said:
definitely !
i was starting to think maybe i should compromise for a nice and crisp picture but laggy as f*** user experience .
after 3 buggy roms that i tried , i am now with androidnow HD 6.1 , and since then i realized that LG freakin SUCK when it comes to software .
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Is androidnow HD 6.1 bumped? i wanted to use that one but nothing written about it being bumped or not. Or i'm just blind
Same here, i just got CM12 running on my LG G3 and same experience... Its absolutely amazing. I just dont understand why LG managed to screw things up and ship a broken Rom...
My experience with LG stock ROMs are way better than with Samsung Rom s. Ok, I'll just know Galaxy S1 to S3 and note 2.
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My experience with LG stock ROMs are way better than with Samsung Rom s. Ok, I'll just know Galaxy S1 to S3 and note 2.
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This...I came from S3 and sure, they were only dual core for the US models but it was buggy. I just got my G3 and rooted last night. I'll be tickering around with custom ROM's again. CM12 most likely of course.
I know this is going to sound very much like a first world problem, but this phone is frustratingly ****. It is easily the buggiest, slowest, most laggy phone I have ever had.
I have tried just about all the LG based ROMS, only to find that each one, although not buggy, are all laggy. The lag is so bad that it gives my old S2 on Gingerbread a run for its money. At least with Samsung phones, you could get rid of the lag by using a AOSP ROM and it would still be functional.
To solve the frustrating lag issue, I have installed a CM based ROM. At first I was delighted. The lag was gone. The phone was now comparable to my super fast Nexus 5. But after a few hours, I noticed the same bugs that every other CM based ROM user has. Today, I had to restart the phone six times FFS! It is a little more stable on 777 Kernel, but the same issues still persist.
Has anyone achieved bliss with this phone? Is there any ROMS, AOSP or LG based, that are fast, (Nexus 5 fast), and bug free?
Don't get me wrong, I love devs and the work they do. Without them, my old Galaxy phones, (S1, S2, S3, S4), would have been poo. My Nexus 5 would have been boring. (Stock android is meh). I just don't understand why this phone seems to have so many issues. Help me understand why it is so hard to develop a fast and reliable ROM for this phone. I know it isn't from a lack of trying. There is heaps of support and devs working on various ROMS in the G3 threads already and all of them are very talented.
Is it hardware based lag or is there something else inherently wrong with the phone?
Thanks for reading and offering any solutions. I don't want to list the ROMS I have tried, as it will seem like I am an ungrateful twat to those devs that worked so hard. Suffice to say, I have tried all the popular CM/AOSP and LG based ROMS.
Stock 5.0 V20H fine for me no lag [emoji3]
I switched to note 4 whilst g3 was good I had a better experience with my note 3. So upgraded
-= Note 4 & Gear VR =-
hashcheck said:
I switched to note 4 whilst g3 was good I had a better experience with my note 3. So upgraded
-= Note 4 & Gear VR =-
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I don't want to switch so soon. There has to be a solution. I love the screen and size of this phone. The only other phone I would consider is the droid turbo, but it's so bloody expensive!
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Stock 5.0 V20H fine for me no lag [emoji3]
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Compared to what? Which other android phone have you used? In isolation, this phone is barely acceptable. Then, after you use a nexus, HTC or Sony phone, this phone is comparably slow. Almost unusable.
I can't bring myself to try stock again until someone who has other phones to base their claims on can confirm it is lag free.
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Compared to what? Which other android phone have you used? In isolation, this phone is barely acceptable. Then, after you use a nexus, HTC or Sony phone, this phone is comparably slow. Almost unusable.
I can't bring myself to try stock again until someone who has other phones to base their claims on can confirm it is lag free.
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Have you tried the usual tricks?
1. Swap out the stock launcher for something like Nova or Apex
2. Switch your keyboard to a 3rd party keyboard
While it does suffer from the random stutter, my phone is generally very zippy and does not lag.
Done all that. On stock based ROMS, stutter and lag is unbearable. My wife, nexus 5 user, even commented on how bad it is. I'm actually embarrassed to use the phone in front of people. I know it isn't a hardware issue, because AOSP ROMS are lag free, but not bug free.
Yeah, the phone is nowhere near as quick as a Nexus. The notification bar is also **** compared to stock Lollipop. There are a few tricks I use to improve performance on a stock rom:
1) Turn off throttling/thermal daemon via the service menu.
2) I use setCPU to set the phone to use the "performance" scheduler whenever the screen is on, locking it at 2.5Ghz.
Still isn't perfect, but it helps substantially. Obviously this is in addition to changing the launcher.
It's just one of those things. As you say, CM12 just isn't stable and worryingly seems to be going backwards, getting less and less stable with each passing nightly. The camera is also completely crap on AOSP roms. Nexus devices are great but the N5 is old and the N6 is too big and expensive. The S5 lags too, and while Note 4 is supposed to be good, but I simply won't believe that Touchwiz lag is gone without seeing it with my own eyes. Even if it has gone, Touchwiz remains the ugliest skin I've ever seen. Sony phones are nice, but they aren't packaged anywhere near as tightly as the G3, which is it's biggest strength: 22mm shorter than an iPhone 6+, with the same size screen. That's impressive. HTC's are just ridiculously large for a given screen size. The 1+1 is old now, and doesn't support all LTE bands used in the UK.
There is no perfect phone. Whichever you choose, there are compromises to be made. However IMHO the G3 strikes the best compromise available today, at least once running the latest Lollipop build and with the tweaks I mentioned above applied.
Had most 2014 flagships and G3 is deff fav so far, didnt have KK as updated to LP out the box had little lag after ota but common just needed a factory reset and all good since
Just a tip you can use on any android phone, go to settings, developer options, and set all the animations to 0.5x. This drastically reduces the time the animations take, and it gives a very snappy experience. It makes a LOT of difference, trust me.
No lag whatsoever here. Im running Chupachups newest rom with rin kernel. I've previously owned htc one, lg g2, xperia z1 and this phone definitely outperforms them all.
Ive owned the Xperia Z1, HTC One M7, and tbh id rate this better than both, i would like the battery life to be better my Z1 was amazing for that buh im custom stock rom and i dont get lag, everything is as it should be.
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I know this is going to sound very much like a first world problem, but this phone is frustratingly ****. It is easily the buggiest, slowest, most laggy phone I have ever had.
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Has anyone achieved bliss with this phone? Is there any ROMS, AOSP or LG based, that are fast, (Nexus 5 fast), and bug free?
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Is it hardware based lag or is there something else inherently wrong with the phone?
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Because LL is still unstable and buggy? And so is any rom based on it?..
Stock firmware sucks because of LG's software - it's very badly written. Almost as bad as touchwiz is. (I used SGS3, trust me on that one...)
AOSP/CM based firmwares are better, but they still suffer due do LL newness. Wait till android 5.1, things may become better.
There is also a hardware issue: unbelievably bad heat management. They used 8974ac, but had not made any cooling system. No radiators, no heat spread throughout the case, and it's facing LCD panel - which is a very bad radiator. GG WP, throttling kick in, phone starts to lag, etc etc etc.
I think there may be problem with your unit... Try to send it back to get a replacement or have it serviced.
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I agree that most of the stock LG-G3 roms, Lollipop/Kitkat, if not rooted and without any mods, LAG is unavoidable. The case is, some people can't root their phones and most of them will try searching why G3 stock rom is lagging... if I'm one of them and I happen to see this post, I would feel bad and feel stupid at the same time why I spend money buying a crappy phone.
Well anyways, try Crash Rom v2.0. It is a stock based ROM like chupachups. The animation is not as fluid as CM but I won't say that it's lagging. Compared to CM, I have not yet encountered any bugs and mostly the camera is better. If you're interested you can also downgrade the resolution to 1080p, this will enhance your g3, 3d and 2d graphics performance.
Hi im all so on lollipop 5.0 updated out of the box and its all good maybe some lag not much to notice. Still no root method yet for stock lollipop 5.0 and i dont want to downgrade to kk so il have patience and wait for new root method for me g3
Wow, I went from the nexus 5, to the htc m8, to the g3 all in year. My advice, play with this one to get the phone lag gone. This by far is the best. Like a previous person said, turn off animations and change the launcher.
mab71 said:
I think there may be problem with your unit... Try to send it back to get a replacement or have it serviced.
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Can't be an issue with the phone, as it is lag free with CM based ROMS.
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I agree that most of the stock LG-G3 roms, Lollipop/Kitkat, if not rooted and without any mods, LAG is unavoidable. The case is, some people can't root their phones and most of them will try searching why G3 stock rom is lagging... if I'm one of them and I happen to see this post, I would feel bad and feel stupid at the same time why I spend money buying a crappy phone.
Well anyways, try Crash Rom v2.0. It is a stock based ROM like chupachups. The animation is not as fluid as CM but I won't say that it's lagging. Compared to CM, I have not yet encountered any bugs and mostly the camera is better. If you're interested you can also downgrade the resolution to 1080p, this will enhance your g3, 3d and 2d graphics performance.
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I'll give crash a go this afternoon and report back. Hopefully 5.1 ROMS fix the issue too.
dspcap said:
Wow, I went from the nexus 5, to the htc m8, to the g3 all in year. My advice, play with this one to get the phone lag gone. This by far is the best. Like a previous person said, turn off animations and change the launcher.
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Already done all that. Animations are turned off, launcher animations are set to lightning fast, CPU throttling is turned off. I've tried all the tricks in the book. Fact is, LG based software is crap, just like Samsung.
So far today, the lock-screen has only frozen on me four times, which is good.
I'm not sure if I'd rather put up with a laggy phone or a buggy phone.
My phone is currently on V20h. Apart from the occasional Home launcher crash, I've not had any lag that I notice of. The last time there was any lag was on V10i. My phone is rooted but is not running any mods.
Prior to this, I've had the Note 3 and Xperia S. Compared to the G3, I would say that the smoothness is at the very least, on par with the Note 3 running on stock.
I've seen people complaining about the G3 being laggy too. Is your phone by any chance the 2 GB RAM version?
My phone is the 2gb version, but I always have at least close to 300mb free. Sometimes I have over 1gb free. Not that it should matter though, as I have read on numerous places that the 3gb version lags too, and that both phones are very close on performance. The extra 1gb of RAM is negligible.
Just flashing Crash ROM now. I think I'm going to regret it though, as I much prefer the look of AOSP anyway.
Ah crap. Just as I flash the ROM, I read that the dev is stopping support for our device. Based on the comments, it looks like a promising ROM.
Ive been using the moto x 2013 for some time now. I was going to get a S4 or G2, I just cant stand how big the new flagships are these days. I finally ended up on buying a oneplus x. Ordered 2/29 and should arrive today 3/2....pretty fast shipping I think!
Im excited to try it out. I do like CM but going to wait for a stable official CM 13. Ive never tried oxygen, any tips or tricks to make it better? Any bugs that I should be aware of?
Thanks.
Enjoy with oxygen os . Few minor things are there but nothing which hampers normal usage. I wouldn't point it out now because then you will specifically look out for those issues. Enjoy it, its a nice experience and with oneplus team working hard on, it will get better .
If you look for customization,mod and seemless experience, we have dedicated, awesome developers who are continuousuly working on Kernels, ROMs and other stuff . I had not thought of this fast development for this phone. Definitely a great feeling.
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Im excited to try it out. I do like CM but going to wait for a stable official CM 13. Ive never tried oxygen, any tips or tricks to make it better? Any bugs that I should be aware of?
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Personally, I prefer CM13 over Oxygen. It's stable enough for using it as my daily driver. I've tried every rom available for the OPX and always go back to CM12 or CM13 by MasterAwesome..
If you decide to root, there are many options for tweaking. I use the blu_sparks kernel, tasker and secure settings, viper4android, xPosed, greenify, busybox, ad away...
My screen-on-time varies from day to day, but I always make it through the day with normal usage.
There are bugs on any device, it depends what rom you're using. Some get resolved faster than others, but there are no perfect devices.
I'm moderately happy with the OPX. It's the right physical size for me and looks great with the rounded glass. It feels great in the hands. I love having the sd card.
I have had an issue with the magnetic sensor tripping and shutting off/locking my screen repeatedly, but that was "resolved" by using a non-flip-cover case.
If I wasn't as comfortable as I am flashing and rooting devices, I probably wouldn't be very happy with this device.
When the time comes to upgrade again, I doubt I will buy another OnePlus. They have atrocious customer service. It's basically non-existent.
Cheers
I've tried so many ROMs and to be honest they're all great. Oxygen by itself is a bit stale. I recommend flashing Boeffla and checking out the configuration thread I made
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-x/general/boeffla-configuration-make-oxygen-fly-t3326054
As for what I prefer to run most, I can't really answer that. Right now I'm enjoying Tipsy with Blu Spark, AICP is great in terms of customization, FlexOS was amazing when I gave it a shot, Tameseks is really good and is probably my favorite implementation of CM, RR has the features, and CM is... CM. You can't go wrong there.
I highly recommend checking out a few ROMs
I'm running Tipsy as aforementioned and I'm loving it so far. The Layers theme is great, it has a great community on G+, and the features aren't bloated by any means. Just needs a feature to to display a memory bar in recents
Have fun with your new device. I love mine. As a matter of fact, its my favorite (coning from using a G4 for a bit too)
OxygenOS is fine. I have been using it since Dec 2015. It is clean and very close to AOSP Lollipop. I will stay with stock for official Marshmallow update from OnePlus. Hopefully the developers community will have similar AOSP based ROM available to play with.
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I've tried so many ROMs and to be honest they're all great. Oxygen by itself is a bit stale. I recommend flashing Boeffla and checking out the configuration thread I made
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-x/general/boeffla-configuration-make-oxygen-fly-t3326054
As for what I prefer to run most, I can't really answer that. Right now I'm enjoying Tipsy with Blu Spark, AICP is great in terms of customization, FlexOS was amazing when I gave it a shot, Tameseks is really good and is probably my favorite implementation of CM, RR has the features, and CM is... CM. You can't go wrong there.
I highly recommend checking out a few ROMs
I'm running Tipsy as aforementioned and I'm loving it so far. The Layers theme is great, it has a great community on G+, and the features aren't bloated by any means. Just needs a feature to to display a memory bar in recents
Have fun with your new device. I love mine. As a matter of fact, its my favorite (coning from using a G4 for a bit too)
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Well its too early to call for favourite ROM. CM13 is good but RIL is little weak on that. WIfi, mobile data issue. Its as close to daily driver but depends on person to person. Since all of them are close to pure android, It would be hard to pick a favourite . Btw right now I am sticking to OOs for manual camera mode, it comes pretty handy sometimes. Though there are few bugs, smoothness makes me happy. Btw I am rocking Boeffla kernel, greenify, amplify and xposed.
Thanks all for recommendations. Been using it for few hours and so far I like it. I do wish the size was smaller like the moto x but I'm sure will get use to it. One thing, wow is this phone slippery! I use to have nexus 4, that was also all glass but I never felt like I would drop it. Maybe it's the metal edge of the OP. Any good cases, something slim and light?
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I recently bought few phones and don't know which one to keep to replace my old 2013 moto x. I got galaxy alpha, oneplus x, and Z5 compact. To be honest none feel as good ergonomically as the moto x. The oneplus is nice, good screen and speed but a Lil big. The z5c is really nice but darn thing si hard to hold without a case. Just way too slippery. And loli on it not very fast in my opinion. Also gets pretty warm with light surfing. Not terribly hot but the hottest of the bunch. The alpha is good all around. Nice size, weight is awesome... So light! Speed seems good. My first time using Samsung, it's not as terrible as I thought would be. I switched to Nova prime and feels good. No SD card is a bummer but not deal breaker. It's also slippery but best grip of bunch without case. Screen is good but a bit yellow and not as sharp next to oneplus.
What do you all think, which would you keep?
Thanks.
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I am the type of person that nitpicks all the imperfections in phones. every single phone that been out for the past 6 months i have tried it. so i basically had a try of every kind of software. i had a iphone 6s plus but i felt that i paid to much for what i was getting. so then i was hesitating getting the one plus x because it said it was missing bands. but i was lucky to live in a area where lte is supported. i feel the one plus x is a well rounded device. and the community for this phone is pretty amazing. i was also coming from honor 5x but there was development on it yet. for me the size is not an issue i actually i wish it was a little bigger. alpha and compact i haven't tried them. but what your getting for in the one plus x is definitely a win in my book. if you think its too slippery buy a skin from dbrand or slickwraps. Hope i made your choice a little easier. @mario24601
dgrasley said:
Personally, I prefer CM13 over Oxygen. It's stable enough for using it as my daily driver. I've tried every rom available for the OPX and always go back to CM12 or CM13 by MasterAwesome..
If you decide to root, there are many options for tweaking. I use the blu_sparks kernel, tasker and secure settings, viper4android, xPosed, greenify, busybox, ad away...
My screen-on-time varies from day to day, but I always make it through the day with normal usage.
There are bugs on any device, it depends what rom you're using. Some get resolved faster than others, but there are no perfect devices.
I'm moderately happy with the OPX. It's the right physical size for me and looks great with the rounded glass. It feels great in the hands. I love having the sd card.
I have had an issue with the magnetic sensor tripping and shutting off/locking my screen repeatedly, but that was "resolved" by using a non-flip-cover case.
If I wasn't as comfortable as I am flashing and rooting devices, I probably wouldn't be very happy with this device.
When the time comes to upgrade again, I doubt I will buy another OnePlus. They have atrocious customer service. It's basically non-existent.
Cheers
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I'm glad to see that you're having a positive experience with CM13. May I ask how battery life worked for you? — as I'm seeing battery life as a con for a majority of the ROMs available for this device.
I have previously used CM roms on my phones so I isntalled CM 12.1 by MasterAwsome right after I got the OPX. Of course like it , but encountered a bug in volume call. So decided to give a try to Oxygen OS 2.2.0 and I can say I am more then happy with it. Missed some CM customization but nothing I can not handle. On Oxygen , I encounter the bug related to the missing button to close all opened apps - I had to reboot to safe mode then reboot normally to fix it.
I use wifi on work and home, 3g and location always on during day, gps and sound while walking - and I can make it through 2 days before charging, since I watch videos rarely and as long as screen brightness is not set high (I set it at 25%). During the night battery-saver option comes handy.
arukemo said:
I'm glad to see that you're having a positive experience with CM13. May I ask how battery life worked for you? — as I'm seeing battery life as a con for a majority of the ROMs available for this device.
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It's the best in comparison to any other ROM out there. 6)-7 hours of SOT easily
I'm liking the X more and more as I use it.
When I'm using SD card, every time I reboot, I have to enable SD card in camera to use it, is this normal?
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arukemo said:
I'm glad to see that you're having a positive experience with CM13. May I ask how battery life worked for you? — as I'm seeing battery life as a con for a majority of the ROMs available for this device.
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Well, battery life is relative. Some days i get 4 hours SoT, sometimes i can get 7. It depends on so many things: whats apps i used that day and for how long, the strength of my wifi/cell signals, screen brightness etc.
On some roms, ive noticed the battery draining very quickly even while not being used.
Right now im using the new CandySix rom and it also has pretty decent battery life.