If you leave KingRoot installed Kodi video playback will crash every 20-30 minutes randomly.
Root with KingRoot 4.8.1 and a Bluetooth Mouse DO NOT OPTIMIZE! Uninstall Purify within KingRoot then immediately disable Amazon updates and remove KingRoot via ADB shell like this:
su
pm disable com.amazon.device.software.ota
ps
kill <PID # for com.kingroot.kinguser:service>
kill <PID # for /data/data-lib/com.kingroot.kinguser/ktools>
pm disable com.kingroot.kinguser
pm uninstall com.kingroot.kinguser
Root will be gone but Amazon updates are off so you can always reroot anytime you desire. Removing KingRoot does fix the random crashing issue during playback.
That is pretty strange. Just another reason why Kingroot is sketchy.
jpeg42 said:
That is pretty strange. Just another reason why Kingroot is sketchy.
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I'll say this again again! not happening to everyone so don't say do THIS just because it happens to you..... Question why.
I am not saying its not true for you but there seems to be more to it ,ok for me and probably a lot more and not for others.
The last point ... if you are not sure what you are doing with any alteration to any piece of equipement .................... research first.
I would suggest to change the topic title to match the fact that kodi might crash, but not the fire tv.
Also: i still have kinguser enabled and installed (not purify) on my ftv1 and kodi did not crash on me.
santamanga said:
I would suggest to change the topic title to match the fact that kodi might crash, but not the fire tv.
Also: i still have kinguser enabled and installed (not purify) on my ftv1 and kodi did not crash on me.
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It causes issues streaming with Netflix too. Not sure what Kingroot is doing every 30 minutes but it causes video playback to stop.
It's best to just uninstall it after disabling Amazon updates via root.
Hopefully we'll get a bootloader and image to flash SuperSU soon...
I've almost got a heart attack when I saw the topic because "fire tv crashes" sounded to me like kingroot bricks the device.
Yes, disabling it is the best option, why kodi and netflicks crash (did you have the crashes while streaming with kodi?) could be, because kingroot likes to phone home a lot. So maybe blocking all the urls via router or in the host file already does the trick.
For the urls to block see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/general/block-ip-address-kingroot-updates-t3332267
I keep getting error: device offline
Strange as I have 2 FTVs, process worked fine on one but not the other?
bah77 said:
I keep getting error: device offline
Strange as I have 2 FTVs, process worked fine on one but not the other?
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Do you have firestarter installed? If so go to settings in firestarter and unselect Home-Detection via ADB
bula1ca said:
Do you have firestarter installed? If so go to settings in firestarter and unselect Home-Detection via ADB
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Thanks for the suggestion but i don't have that installed I'm afraid
It's just a straight root
bah77 said:
Thanks for the suggestion but i don't have that installed I'm afraid
It's just a straight root
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Try this then:
go to settings/system/Developer Options and turn ADB debugging on/off/on/off/on then try to connect again.
Has anyone looked through the kodi logs to see what exactly is crashing? I wouldn't call it random crashing if we generally know (think?) kingroot is responsible. Good work determining that removing kingroot makes the crashes go away, but i wonder what the core issue really is.
All my AFTV's are gen1 and were rooted, otherwise I would dig into this issue. Maybe I will get a FTV stick and kingroot it so i can figure out. Anybody put kodi in debug mode and captured the whole log? Got a pastebin of it?
I bet it'd be the Low Memory Killer. Kingroot probably runs some activity (Updates? Something else? Who knows!) on an alarm and becomes the foreground app, LMK kills Kodi for more free memory.
Doesn't FireOS 5 have logcat?
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Just to say that probably best not to remove Kingroot given the recent news that the latest AFTV update to version 5.0.5.1 cannot be rooted by Kingroot. With Kingroot updates can be blocked.
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Kingroot has not caused my Netflix to stop or crash. Seems like something else is causing the issue.
*EDIT* I have Amazon updates blocked through my router.
You may have done this already but check the thread about the update, they're now using a different https url.
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Swell6 said:
Just to say that probably best not to remove Kingroot given the recent news that the latest AFTV update to version 5.0.5.1 cannot be rooted by Kingroot. With Kingroot updates can be blocked.
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Yes, and the disabled state of the update service remains after removing kingroot.
I've seen a number of folks with this issue. I have it often when playing files over the network and I've also seen it when playing TV from my HDHomerun device.
Kodi doesn't crash for me, but video playback halts at seemingly random times.
I hope this technique works for me.
And indeed, getting rid of kingroot
- got rid of the random halt of video playback
- left the Amazon update service inoperable (yes, I tested it, ready to pull power if an update was found.)
This is a gen 1 FTV box, playing video in Kodi 16 via SMB shares and with the HD Homerun dtv tuner - both Kodi and HDH were stopping abruptly for no apparent reason.
i have a small solution to fix the streamcrash issue with kodi with installed KingRoot
do following
unroot and root with KingoRoot 4.1
Start AKGfire and uninstall purify
make a backup of your Kodi Config
Uninstall Kodi and delete all folder called org.xbmc.kodi in /sdcard/Android (found it in data and obb)
reboot Stick
connect to AKGfire again and download andinstall Kodi 16.1 again
AWARE: do not start Kodi
Restore your Kodi data
reboot
then you can run kodi as normal.
start a Stream and enjoy feel happy
Gesendet von meinem LG-H815
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Moved to http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/root-playstore-busybox-optimize-flash-t3281804
Download link
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Thanks a lot for this nice tool (which came in too late for myself, alas). A couple of comments:
- Could you preserve timestamps of incorporated files? It would make comparisons to existing tools easier.
- I understand that ROM size is not an issue, would it be possible to make the debloat deactivations reversible? (e.g. pm disable/hide instead of rm - if something goes wrong there would be a chance to get back functionality)
- Five minutes seem a tad on the low side - I have seen more than that in a single reboot (when cache rebuilds took place).
Nevertheless: Very nice, I hope the tool will be useful to many people unpacking Fires from their stockings!
Noob
So I can run this on the stock 5.1.1 firmware by just downloading it to the sd card and install. On home screen open and it will root and install all that is listed?
Thank you in advance
Thanks for this! I just used it on my son's brand new Fire 7" tablet. I had to modify the .sh a little to run the script in Ubuntu http://pastebin.com/C1PXnqxa
egomaster said:
So I can run this on the stock 5.1.1 firmware by just downloading it to the sd card and install. On home screen open and it will root and install all that is listed?
Thank you in advance
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Sorry about the unclear instructions. I updated the tutorial. You run the script from your computer with your device on the homescreen. :3
glitch3yf0x said:
Sorry about the unclear instructions. I updated the tutorial. You run the script from your computer with your device on the homescreen. :3
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Thank you for clarifying. Will give this a try.
Thanks so much for the suggestions.
- I honestly don't know what you are referring to by this or how to do that, but I'll do it if you can PM me explaining it.
- Sure! I'll do this in the next version or the next, but I promise something like it will be done. :3
-I'll time it tonight and update. The script cuts off the cache rebuilds until the very end.
Thank you, the install went perfectly, this makes the Fire 5.1.1 livable until the bootloader is unlocked. I have encounter one thing, widgets cannot be added to the homescreen. Is this an expected issue or is there something going on with my tablet I need to explore?
JaboJG said:
Thanks for this! I just used it on my son's brand new Fire 7" tablet. I had to modify the .sh a little to run the script in Ubuntu http://pastebin.com/C1PXnqxa
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Thanks man. I really appreciate it. Your name has been added to the Thanks and i'll use a modified version based of your editing in the next release tonight.
Komet1 said:
Thank you, the install went perfectly, this makes the Fire 5.1.1 livable until the bootloader is unlocked. I have encounter one thing, widgets cannot be added to the homescreen. Is this an expected issue or is there something going on with my tablet I need to explore?
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I think I know what the problem is. It'll be fixed with the next update, which probably will be less than two hours from now. I appoligise for the inconvenience.
It's just sitting on daemon started successfully for quite a while, is this normal?
not sure what is going on, ran the script and everything went fine. however, the device is still trying to update. it seems like updates weren't blocked or something. i never let it install the initial update though that it tries to do when you turn on the device. i never even connected it to a wifi network so not sure how it can even update
google play services refuses to install as well. not sure what is wrong but seems like there must be some bugs in this script.
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not sure what is going on, ran the script and everything went fine. however, the device is still trying to update. it seems like updates weren't blocked or something. i never let it install the initial update though that it tries to do when you turn on the device. i never even connected it to a wifi network so not sure how it can even update
google play services refuses to install as well. not sure what is wrong but seems like there must be some bugs in this script.
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That's very odd. Can you attach screenshots and such so I can look into this? Also, try the updated script I have just updated the link too.
If you continue to have problems, adb sideload to start fresh.
I believe you may be getting confused with the "Updating your apps" screen, which is normal. This is android recompiling the cache for the newly installed apps.
What's the error shown when google play doesn"t install?
Soundmotion3004 said:
It's just sitting on daemon started successfully for quite a while, is this normal?
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That's not normal. What OS are you using? Is Android Debugging enabled on your device and did you allow the "Accept debugging from this computer?" prompt on your tablet?
glitch3yf0x said:
That's very odd. Can you attach screenshots and such so I can look into this? Also, try the updated script I have just updated the link too.
If you continue to have problems, adb sideload to start fresh.
I believe you may be getting confused with the "Updating your apps" screen, which is normal.
What's the error shown when google play doesn"t install?
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damn, went and used the other install script for google play store and still problems
here is the error i get when it tries to update google play services
CAN'T UPDATE APP
Update for "google play services" could not be downloaded due to an error. (error retrieving information from server. [RPCS:S-7 AEC-7 OIKJ-IY4V-YMNYK]
play store is there and i can browse through it but i know from doing this on my first fire tablet that i need to update google play services. that will not update not matter what i try i get that error. rebooting no help
any idea on what i can do. it seems like i'm rooted fine supersu is there. i have no experience with adb at all
also, wasn't confused with updating apps at all. it was the FIRE screen saying software is updating to the latest version. it seemed like it updated though i have no idea how when not connected to wifi
knives of ice said:
damn, went and used the other install script for google play store and still problems
here is the error i get when it tries to update google play services
CAN'T UPDATE APP
Update for "google play services" could not be downloaded due to an error. (error retrieving information from server. [RPCS:S-7 AEC-7 OIKJ-IY4V-YMNYK]
play store is there and i can browse through it but i know from doing this on my first fire tablet that i need to update google play services. that will not update not matter what i try i get that error. rebooting no help
any idea on what i can do. it seems like i'm rooted fine supersu is there. i have no experience with adb at all
also, wasn't confused with updating apps at all. it was the FIRE screen saying software is updating to the latest version. it seemed like it updated though i have no idea how when not connected to wifi
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The Fire logo with "Updating Apps..." is normal. :3 It should be gone after two reboots.
As for the google play problem, It sounds like you need to clear the data and relogin to google. Was there anything relating to google play on your device previously before the script? You may have to be connected to wifi for google play to download updates, if you still aren't.
glitch3yf0x said:
The Fire logo with "Updating Apps..." is normal. :3 It should be gone after two reboots.
As for the google play problem, is there anything relating to google play on your device currently? It sounds like you need to clear the data and relogin to google.
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i haven't loaded 1 thing. i never even connected to wifi before running your script.
ok i went in and cleared everything in the google framework and play store, now when i try to open play store it just spins. will not load. any suggestions? no idea what the problem could be.
EDIT - ok finally got it. for some reason it just started working. i think there must have been a notfication that was showing which i didn't accept
Glad to hear! Usually the infinite spinning wheel means you need to accept the terms of use. :3
Everything worked fine, just one note that seems to be a side affect. I had a childs profile setup before running the script, now I cannot change settings or delete the profile.
Hi - I have a rooted HD8-6G with Google Play that has been working flawlessly for a long time now. However, I recently tried to update the Kindle app and it always fails.
I then tried to open the Amazon Store app, and it immediately terminates upon opening. I figure that the two may be related.
Is this a known problem?
I suppose I can root my HD8 and start from scratch again, but if Amazon apps aren't going to work anymore, I don't want to waste my time.
Thanks,
¿GJ?
¿GotJazz? said:
Hi - I have a rooted HD8-6G with Google Play that has been working flawlessly for a long time now. However, I recently tried to update the Kindle app and it always fails.
I then tried to open the Amazon Store app, and it immediately terminates upon opening. I figure that the two may be related.
Is this a known problem?
I suppose I can root my HD8 and start from scratch again, but if Amazon apps aren't going to work anymore, I don't want to waste my time.
Thanks,
¿GJ?
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I'm sorry but because of the root Amazon's factory APKs think your running a non kindle firmware, because these APKs have the ability to receive more offers, download more content, etc. You may need to uninstall them and then install the default ones from the play store.
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¿GotJazz? said:
Hi - I have a rooted HD8-6G with Google Play
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What do you mean by "have rooted with Google Play"??? It seems like you don't understand what term "rooting" means.
Unfortunately (or fortunately ), Fire HD 8 2016 (6-th gen) can NOT be rooted; all "guides" available on internet are the scams and bloatware/rootkits installers, nothing more.
Where is no way to root Fire HD 8 2016 (same as 2017) but literally nothing wrong with the FireOS. Anyone can install Google's services and Play store app, and enjoy "freedom" of the access to the Android apps world!
¿GotJazz? said:
Hi - I have a rooted HD8-6G with Google Play that has been working flawlessly for a long time now. However, I recently tried to update the Kindle app and it always fails.
I then tried to open the Amazon Store app, and it immediately terminates upon opening. I figure that the two may be related.
Is this a known problem?
I suppose I can root my HD8 and start from scratch again, but if Amazon apps aren't going to work anymore, I don't want to waste my time.
Thanks,
¿GJ?
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I don't think you are really rooted, i ran into the same issue after installing the google play store. Simply uninstall the updates installed by google for store and kindle and they will work again.
sensboston said:
What do you mean by "have rooted with Google Play"??? It seems like you don't understand what term "rooting" means.
Unfortunately (or fortunately ), Fire HD 8 2016 (6-th gen) can NOT be rooted; all "guides" available on internet are the scams and bloatware/rootkits installers, nothing more.
Where is no way to root Fire HD 8 2016 (same as 2017) but literally nothing wrong with the FireOS. Anyone can install Google's services and Play store app, and enjoy "freedom" of the access to the Android apps world!
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I don't think you are really rooted, i ran into the same issue after installing the google play store. Simply uninstall the updates installed by google for store and kindle and they will work again.
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Well, let's see ...
I have SuperSU v2.82 by Chainfire installed and operational
I can su in my Terminal Emulator to run various superuser commands.
I am running AdAway to block (almost) all ads.
I have Link2SD operational to convert some of my apps to System apps (like, Wakelock Detector Pro)
I have BusyBox Pro installed and operational
You can let me know if I am rooted or not.
Based on @savvytechwinner's work, on Wicki's work (Mod Edit - NO links to competing Forums) and on some experimentation of my own, I put together a new script to further ease the setup of an out-of-the-package Amazon Fire 7 / 7th gen and to clean up more throughly. This is a derivative / remix / improvement rather than something new. Thanks go to all the people this work is based on.
I already announced this in savvytechwinner's thread, but I figured setting up it's own thread is warranted.
What it does:
OTA Updates are blocked
Lockscreen ads are removed
Functional Google Play Store and Google Go search are installed
Bloatware is removed from the tablet
Functional Nova Launcher, Adblocker (DNS66) and light Youtube Client (NewPipe) are installed
Out-of-the-package instructions:
Have adb and Amazon Fire USB drivers installed on your PC.
Power on your Fire tablet, do the initial setup. DO NOT CONNECT TO WIFI. Instead, select any password protected wifi, then cancel, and initial setup will let you continue without internet.
Enter Settings -> Device options -> click Serial 7 times. A new menu entrypoint called Developer options will pop up.
In Developer options, enable ADB, then connect your tablet to your computer. Confirm the fingerprint. If that didn't work, look here for troubleshooting.
Now, extract the contents of this package somewhere on your computer and double click FireOneClick.bat.
You can watch how Amazon's apps vanish, but it is recommended not to do anything else with your tablet while the script does its work.
After it's finished, enter Settings -> Accessibility -> "enable To detect home button press". Then, open the LauncherHijack app and select Nova Launcher.
Open the DNS66 app and start it. This will run in background (at low memory consumption) and block ads.
Download the One Click Script from here.
Full readme, including credits and more info is found in my GitHub repo.
Just a heads up, I used this script on a fire 7 I had literally just opened, and it was successful in loading GApps and Blocking ads, but it did not debloat the amazon apps and it also did not block OTA updates...I woke up to a fire 7 that auto updated to 5.6.0. I'm not complaining here, since Nova Launcher is still installed and ads are nonexistent, just letting you know!
hiphopsded said:
Just a heads up, I used this script on a fire 7 I had literally just opened, and it was successful in loading GApps and Blocking ads, but it did not debloat the amazon apps and it also did not block OTA updates...I woke up to a fire 7 that auto updated to 5.6.0. I'm not complaining here, since Nova Launcher is still installed and ads are nonexistent, just letting you know!
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Dammit... what version did you start on? Assuming it was 5.4.0.1?
Hi my 7" is on 5.4.0.
Does this just block the download or the update itself? Because I accidentally downloaded the OTA update but the tablet doesn't updated jet.
Is there a way to delete the update without root?
VottelTheTroll said:
Hi my 7" is on 5.4.0.
Does this just block the download or the update itself? Because I accidentally downloaded the OTA update but the tablet doesn't updated jet.
Is there a way to delete the update without root?
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It blocks the update itself by disabling all apps that would apply it. I still recommend turning Wifi off and doing a factory reset, so the update data is gone for sure.
Blocking the update / debloating most likely did not work for @hiphopsded cause he started from 5.4.0.1. Blocking updates / removing ads / debloating is onlypossible on v5.4.0.0 and below. I am somewhat surprised he doesn't have ads on the lockscreen, but I think that is due to the DNS66 adblocker doing it's work properly.
EDIT: @hiphopsded - maybe there is still hope, but you'll have to do the research yourself.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75167286&postcount=437
@k8500 I was on v5.4.0.0
I opened it brand new from sealed packaging, canceled connecting to a WiFi I did not have the password to, and was brought into the device home screen without ever connecting to WiFi to verify that I was on v5.4.0.0 and proceeded with installing the one click script.
Everything worked except debloating the tablet and OTA Updates being blocked. Not sure what went wrong. But having the launcher, google apps, and no ads is fine enough.
Another confirmation of this working on 5.4.0.0
Just received an Amazon Fire 7 - 7th gen. It ships with 5.4.0.1
I was able to downgrade from 5.4.0.1 to 5.4.0.0, then use this batch file to clean up the tablet.
Thanks!
already (well) used 7gen currently on 5.6.0.1
any idea when this will be updated to work on 5.6.0.1?
and next question does it actually root the tablet?
thanks in advance
markbnj said:
any idea when this will be updated to work on 5.6.0.1?
and next question does it actually root the tablet?
thanks in advance
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Does not root and will not be updated for 5.6.x.x as Amazon disabled the underlying commands that perform the magic.
5.6.x.x update question
Davey126 said:
Does not root and will not be updated for 5.6.x.x as Amazon disabled the underlying commands that perform the magic.
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ok. So, bottom line, I can either wipe the unit, and start over; or
try and root the fire tablet to get rid of ads, and install other stuff...)
any other ideas?
I've rooted lots of android, and would actually prefer a more android, rather then amazon centric tablet....
thanks in advance...
markbnj said:
ok. So, bottom line, I can either wipe the unit, and start over; or
try and root the fire tablet to get rid of ads, and install other stuff...)
any other ideas?
I've rooted lots of android, and would actually prefer a more android, rather then amazon centric tablet....
thanks in advance...
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Can't root 7th gen Fire at present. Period. Can't load a different ROM w/o root. Try sketchy rollback/debloat techniques at your own peril. Contact Amazon to dump annoying lock screen ads. Install a VPN based firewall like AdGuard to dispense with in-app advertising. Possibly install a different launcher using non-root techniques. Pretty much it.
Maybe I'm a little late in opening this thread up again, but let me ask this:
I just got a Kindle 7 (7th generation) in the mail, to replace our son's old one (5th generation, though unfortunately never rooted) that started messing up (so presumably the new one is refurbished). We don't like all the amazon bloat, etc., and would prefer the different launcher or anything more android-like we can get. I would love to block the OTA updates. So your tool sounds great.
I opened it and turned it on but haven't set up the device yet. I see it's version 5.3.3.0 Does this one click script of yours work on the 5.3.3.0 ? Are there any other suggestions on the best way to use my new device (taking out amazon bloat and more like google) considering it's *not* the newest OS that Amazon makes? I.e. are there any options I have available to me currently that I want to be sure I don't lose out on by accidentally updating or something? Thanks for any help you can provide!
madagascaradam said:
Maybe I'm a little late in opening this thread up again, but let me ask this:
I just got a Kindle 7 (7th generation) in the mail, to replace our son's old one (5th generation, though unfortunately never rooted) that started messing up (so presumably the new one is refurbished). We don't like all the amazon bloat, etc., and would prefer the different launcher or anything more android-like we can get. I would love to block the OTA updates. So your tool sounds great.
I opened it and turned it on but haven't set up the device yet. I see it's version 5.3.3.0 Does this one click script of yours work on the 5.3.3.0 ? Are there any other suggestions on the best way to use my new device (taking out amazon bloat and more like google) considering it's *not* the newest OS that Amazon makes? I.e. are there any options I have available to me currently that I want to be sure I don't lose out on by accidentally updating or something? Thanks for any help you can provide!
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Yes, it works with fire OS 5.3.3.0
Rortiz2 said:
Yes, it works with fire OS 5.3.3.0
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Thanks for letting me know, but maybe I'm doing something wrong because I can't get it to work at all. To start with, I had already opened my fire tablet but skipped setup (also skipped signing into wifi because I knew that could give me an auto-update). So maybe that's what screwed it up? Maybe I should reset to factory and try again?
I had installed the fire drivers too but my fire never showed up in "portable devices" in device manager (in fact, I never saw such a category - but it did show up in devices as "MTP device").
The adb worked fine as I was able to get it to "show devices". However, the one-click never did anything. Usually I use powershell, but then I tried running through normal command prompt, but still no luck. I tried putting it in my adb fastboot folder (is that my problem? does it need the full adb and adb fastboot isn't enough?) and it still didn't work. So, maybe my first step was the problem or maybe a subsequent one, I don't know, but I couldn't get any of it to work.
uninstall apps
cannot uninstall applications , i downgrade to 5.4.0 but applications are only hiding , they are still in the system .
PROOF : you can check your free space before and after uninstalling, you will gain nothing important.
but for removing ads or blocking update , its working for 5.4.0 !!!
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avatarma said:
cannot uninstall applications , i downgrade to 5.4.0 but applications are only hiding , they are still in the system .
PROOF : you can check your free space before and after uninstalling, you will gain nothing important.
but for removing ads or blocking update , its working for 5.4.0 !!!
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but for rooted devices we can uninstall applications with root uninstaller pro or similare application.
Are you someone who just got their Fire TV rooted and don't know exactly what you can do with it being rooted? Or maybe you haven't rooted yet because you are unsure of what you can do with it rooted? Well hopefully i can shed some light on this with a little guide on things to do, along with some tips and tricks.
First let me get started by saying never forget to make a backup of your Fire TV via TWRP before making changes or tweaks. This is not to freak you out or disparage its just good practice ii have learned in rooting devices. I will cover TWRP later.
One of the best things to come along in the rooting world of android is Xposed installer. In short Xposed is a framework apk that allows users to modify/ customize their devices. This is not done by Xposed Installer per say but the modules that you download with in Xposed installer. So i will show how to install it, how to use and modules that will be beneficial use for Fire TV fyi mouse is need to navigate Xposed.
Xposed installation
1. We need to download the following BusyBox a program that most rooted apps are dependent on here Xposed Installer v3.1.5 here along with Xposed Framework x89 sdk22 arm64 here
2. Install BusyBox however you install side loaded apks. Open BusyBox and click the install button on bottom right. On SU prompt screen grant root access. As you should for root apps you install.
3. Install Xposed Installer, there is no need to open after install because without Xposed Framework installed it doesnt work.
4 Place the Xposed v89 zip onto Fire TV internal or external storage is your choice just remember where so you can point TWRP to it.
5 Reboot into TWRP recovery, choose install, point TWRP to the Xposed zip and on right side of options choose install zip. Let TWRP run its script when it says complete simply reboot and voila Xposed is installed. NOTE it is NORMAL for the first boot to take 10 min after Xposed is installed.
Xposed Tutorial and Modules
Open Xposed installer on be careful screen prompt click box to don't show again and ok. The 3 line icon on top left is menu button. Module option is where you can see and activate modules you install. Download option is where we search for and install modules. After you download a module Fire TV will prompt you to install. Note modules wont work until activated and a reboot.
Modules i find beneficial and know are SAFE are the followingBoot Manager- this allows for you to choose what apps start on boot.
RootCloak- this is designed to hide root app detection. Im assuming it still will hide root but could be wrong worth shot right
Xposed Edge- this is the FUN one that allows a fair share customs tweaks. My fav is remapping of remote buttons ie home button goes to alternative launcher, double tap home opens netflix. Which is great for 3rd party remotes that have a lot of buttons. NOTE There is a pro version as well Note- whenever you make changes in edge you may have to reboot for changes to effect.
DISCLAIMER be careful some modules may cause problems like bootloop and worse so research before you install modules to see if they are compatible
Other Apps
These are apps recommended or useful for rooted devices and for Fire TV useADBLink-allows you connect PC t to Fire TV via adb can install apks, push/pull files, run adb shell.
Easy Fire Tools- Android app that connects to Fire TV via adb can install apps from your android device onto Fire TV, transfer files and other features.
Root Explorer- these apps allow you to manage files but also a way to install side loaded apps, find one that is root friendly so you can access system folders if ever needed.
AdBlocker- we all know why we want one for all my rooted phones always been partial to adaway.
Alternative Home Launcher- who does like Fire TV launcher, really Karen of course you would!
TV App Repo and APK Editor- For those who do use alternative launcher i mention these because TV App Repo allows you to make bookmarks into apks. APK Editor to change the icon and name of TVApp Repo apks because the names and icons are generic.
TWRP
Finally the benefits and how to use TWRP. This allows users to make a backup images of device and ability to restore it when **** goes wrong. You can also do a factory reset.
Backup- after you choose backup from main screen choose select storage and choose storage then click swipe to backup. These can take a while to do seemed like 20 mins or so. Whatever storage you chose will be the default storage until you change it. Note- I have a backup image and its size is 4.5gb so id recommend you need some sort of external storage for these. If there is not enough space backup can not be performed.
Restore- performed same way as backup.
Factory Reset- Just wanted to mention don't forget if you do this and have a backup image on Fire TV internal storage you will lose it.
Hope this helps out
@g422
Thanks for the write up!!!
To be honest, the benefits of rooting appear to be somewhat underwhelming, at least, for the Fire TV. Not a single killer feature/application ...
I do know that it is more convenient to have root than not, but appears to be in pretty subtle ways.
My main use is between SmartYouTubeTV, and Netflix. If I fumble through the Amazon launcher, I am there, and life is good!
Am I missing something?
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Am I missing something?
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Yes, you didn't read the OP He gives many examples of use for root, if those aren't valuable to you, then root isn't for you.
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Yes, you didn't read the OP He gives many examples of use for root, if those aren't valuable to you, then root isn't for you.
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Hmm, just for the record, pretty much every tablet or phone (except a couple of real cheap deals) I have in my household are rooted! So I do see good value in root on those devices.
It's just that I struggle with root utility on Fire TV devices. As in - "why bother?"
I see that the OP likes Xposed Edge for button remapping, so if that's your cup of tea, that's a killer feature to get root for. I myself religiously correct Chrome look on tablets using Xposed/App Settings (link), which very few others seem to care about. But I want to see more of these killer features for Fire TV! Suggestions?
Btw, I am not being adversarial or critical, just very curious. Which itch are people scratching with root on Fire TV???
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Hmm, just for the record, pretty much every tablet or phone (except a couple of real cheap deals) I have in my household are rooted! So I do see good value in root on those devices.
It's just that I struggle with root utility on Fire TV devices. As in - "why bother?"
I see that the OP likes Xposed Edge for button remapping, so if that's your cup of tea, that's a killer feature to get root for. I myself religiously correct Chrome look on tablets using Xposed/App Settings (link), which very few others seem to care about. But I want to see more of these killer features for Fire TV! Suggestions?
Btw, I am not being adversarial or critical, just very curious. Which itch are people scratching with root on Fire TV???
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I sort of see your point, but I think the root version of Mouse Toggle works, while the non-root doesn't. At least that's been my experience. Also, can you block updates without root?
I took no offense to your comments bibikalka. I am inclined to agree that there is a limit of what to do with rooted fire tv especially compared to a phone or tablet. I started this thread to give back to xda who has kept my multiple devices over years rooted. Thread was also done in hopes of getting ideas to do and/or sharing of apps that can be helpful especially now that rooting is allowed for the general masses just not those who were able to jump on board early.
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I sort of see your point, but I think the root version of Mouse Toggle works, while the non-root doesn't. At least that's been my experience. Also, can you block updates without root?
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I used mouse toggle without rooted fire tv until i got air mouse remote. Yes you can block updates. If im not mistaken rbox prerooted roms block updates, go to check for system updates and should be stuck on checking for updates. If not go here.
#1 reason I root a fire TV box is so I can use large NTFS drives on the USB port.
Can someone point to me how to fix sd card write permissions. I tried xiinternalsd for xposed but when i open it goes to amazon home screen
g422 said:
I used mouse toggle without rooted fire tv until i got air mouse remote. Yes you can block updates. If im not mistaken rbox prerooted roms block updates, go to check for system updates and should be stuck on checking for updates. If not go here.
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Right, so blocking updates only when rooted.
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Right, so blocking updates only when rooted.
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yeah i just re read what ya posted i see what ya meant
Imho top reasons for it are Xposed Edge Pro, ad blocking via AdAway (if you use the browser) and finally, the updates issue. While unlikely, it's not impossible for Amazon to get crackin and stop the use of certain third-party apps (NIMH is a giveaway)
Edit: forgot one important one, "debloating" the OS, whether by blocking the startup or disabling packages you don't want/need to give more cpu and memory to apps you do
Without root access, it's Amazon's device; with root access, it's now your device.
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I used mouse toggle without rooted fire tv until i got air mouse remote. Yes you can block updates. If im not mistaken rbox prerooted roms block updates, go to check for system updates and should be stuck on checking for updates. If not go here.
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Right, so blocking updates only when rooted.
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yeah i just re read what ya posted i see what ya meant
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For a while, updates could be blocked without root, but Amazon fixed that hole:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/general/disable-ota-fire-stick-t3667978
But! You want to block updates so you don't lose root, so it's a bit circular. If you don't have root, you don't care, and just update as per Amazon otas. Btw, I do have updates blocked on my fire sticks
Anyway, please keep the conversation going! We should develop a good set of must have features which are only available via root.
The main reason I root now is to debloat. Go as barebones as possible in order to improve performance. I kill all possible services that are absolutely unnecessary. I've removed Amazons GUI and use Appstarter. I just like a clean fast experience.
Thanks for this but u all do know u can connect to a PC wirelessly via adb without root. It's the only way I have ever added apps to my stick. Find your sticks individual ip. Open terminal on a pc, adb connect ipaddress. Then adb devices, a prompt will pop like on your phone asking to allow device or not. Click always or yes whatever. Then u do adb install draganddropwhateverapphere. Loads up in seconds depending on apk size. U can even use your phone if u have the adb platform tools magisk module installed on your phone. I install apps to my stick from my OnePlus 6t
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Thanks for this but u all do know u can connect to a PC wirelessly via adb without root. It's the only way I have ever added apps to my stick. Find your sticks individual ip. Open terminal on a pc, adb connect ipaddress. Then adb devices, a prompt will pop like on your phone asking to allow device or not. Click always or yes whatever. Then u do adb install draganddropwhateverapphere. Loads up in seconds depending on apk size. U can even use your phone if u have the adb platform tools magisk module installed on your phone. I install apps to my stick from my OnePlus 6t
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Ummm, or you know just use the Apps2Fire app lol. No magisk module or root needed. You're welcome.
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Ummm, or you know just use the Apps2Fire app lol. No magisk module or root needed. You're welcome.
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I am saying I never need root or anything to use adb and install apps wirelessly. I have done this for the past year with NO ROOT. Don't need it for sideloading apps. Adb connect ipaddress, then adb install dragdropapp from PC into terminal. No root or magisk needed. I always have a rooted phone and that's where the magisk module comes in. On a PC u can load them to a stick out of the box.
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I am saying I never need root or anything to use adb and install apps wirelessly. I have done this for the past year with NO ROOT. Don't need it for sideloading apps. Adb connect ipaddress, then adb install dragdropapp from PC into terminal. No root or magisk needed. I always have a rooted phone and that's where the magisk module comes in. On a PC u can load them to a stick out of the box.
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Yep, that's exactly what you said before. Not sure why you are repeating it.
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Yep, that's exactly what you said before. Not sure why you are repeating it.
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Cuz u aren't understanding. If u read your comments, then mine, you would see it seems u think I'm saying one would have to have root to use adb install. U do not.
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Cuz u aren't understanding. If u read your comments, then mine, you would see it seems u think I'm saying one would have to have root to use adb install. U do not.
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That is 100% incorrect. I see now you have a reading comprehension disability. I can't imagine how hard that must be for you and I empathize.
Obviously root is needed for magisk modules. I suggested an app to help all those without root.
Bless your heart.
I'm angry/confused - has anyone else had this happen to their device?
Last night, I sat down and rooted one of my 2017 HD8 tablets, following the damn-amazing Experimental Software Root method as recently uncovered and shared with us by @diplomatic. I then installed SuperSU (from the damn Play store!) to take the root from temporary to permanent.
I spent the last 24 hours FINALLY being able to use my Fire tablet as a semi-solid/functional personal computing device, finally able to really setup the device to perform as I need it to, and I've been very happy with how everything turned out.
Well, I just came back to my desk to find a message from "Play Protect," (a feature/service I ALWAYS turn off in Play Store settings, on all of my devices):
App Removed by Play Protect: SuperSU
This app can allow unauthorized access to your data or device.
(see images attached).
I checked and no longer have root status. Also, now I can't install any .apk files whatsoever. WTF??!
I downloaded SuperSU... FROM THE PLAY STORE...! The app is listed and available for installation from/by the Play Store (see attached photo).
So, I guess now I will just re-root and hope in the future Google chills the F out/gets their creepy little hands out of my device/data. Maybe I should freeze the Play Store/Play Services? I just wanted to see if anyone else had ever had this happen to them/if there is a recommended solution. SO annoying!!! ??‼?‼??
(pardon my grumpiness/I feel a little bit better now, post vent ?)
Ok - I'll stop whining now... ?
I was able to recover root by simply reinstalling "SuperSU" from the Play Store. Hopefully it was just a fluke and everything will stay where it should be.
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Ok - I'll stop whining now... [emoji51]
I was able to recover root by simply reinstalling "SuperSU" from the Play Store. Hopefully it was just a fluke and everything will stay where it should be.
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I had exact same thing happen but once reinstalled from play store it has been fine.
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richaardvark said:
I'm angry/confused - has anyone else had this happen to their device?
Last night, I sat down and rooted one of my 2017 HD8 tablets, following the damn-amazing Experimental Software Root method as recently uncovered and shared with us by @diplomatic. I then installed SuperSU (from the damn Play store!) to take the root from temporary to permanent.
I spent the last 24 hours FINALLY being able to use my Fire tablet as a semi-solid/functional personal computing device, finally able to really setup the device to perform as I need it to, and I've been very happy with how everything turned out.
Well, I just came back to my desk to find a message from "Play Protect," (a feature/service I ALWAYS turn off in Play Store settings, on all of my devices):
App Removed by Play Protect: SuperSU
This app can allow unauthorized access to your data or device.
(see images attached).
I checked and no longer have root status. Also, now I can't install any .apk files whatsoever. WTF??!
I downloaded SuperSU... FROM THE PLAY STORE...! The app is listed and available for installation from/by the Play Store (see attached photo).
So, I guess now I will just re-root and hope in the future Google chills the F out/gets their creepy little hands out of my device/data. Maybe I should freeze the Play Store/Play Services? I just wanted to see if anyone else had ever had this happen to them/if there is a recommended solution. SO annoying!!!
(pardon my grumpiness/I feel a little bit better now, post vent ?)
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I had a similar experience today when updating some apps I got from the Google Play Store. During the updates, it deleted my SuperSU with no warning or asking permission. Luckily, it didn't affect my root as far as I can tell. I too got SuperSU from the Play Store. It is DEFINITELY annoying !
Two things when installing play store. Always good to 1) immediately turn off auto updates the second you sign in. 2) turn off play protect.
As soon as play services updates, all apps will start to update if they are allowed. So make sure to look at 'my apps', and make sure none are stuck in que. If so, tap 'stop all'.
I am having the exact same issue. Nothing seems to be working no matter what I disable. it keeps removing supersu
Has anyone tried anything that works?
neodenjin said:
I am having the exact same issue. Nothing seems to be working no matter what I disable. it keeps removing supersu
Has anyone tried anything that works?
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Try SuperSU v2.79. Grab it from this post here. Playstore has problems with V2.82
unixtan said:
Try SuperSU v2.79. Grab it from this post here. Playstore has problems with V2.82
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Just don't update from the play store unless you downloaded it there and if you do update, do so manually by downloading standalone apk and installing it through documents or a root explorer. I'm trying to work on a fix for this version in some form. We can't flash it unless you use the modified version on the stock rom thread because we aren't quite 64 bit yet. Flashing the standard zip will bootloop. So I've been experimenting with a totally manual install, including rooting the boot.img so when the apk is installed it doesn't perform the auto install embedded into it. So far, though I don't really know yet, it appears to be a success. One of the issues, I think, was the installation of the 64 bit library file. Either it install it, but in the regular lib folder, or doesn't install it at all or does install but doesn't set proper permissions (guesswork). So I added the necessary files by unpacking and repacking the boot.img. This is not a final version.I'm, but If anyone is interested in trying it out I can upload the boot.img.