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Step backward from the LG G2

I bought the 32gb, 3gb ram version from Amazon DE. I watched a lot of review sites and they generally praised the phone and said the performance was good. Here my initial thoughts:
-- the screen is too warm and makes everything look dull when compared to LG G2
-- Performance is very poor compared to the LG G2, G2 is snappy in comparison
-- animations, scrolling etc are running at 10-15fps or it seems. Compared to the LG G2, its buttery on the G2. Im a sucker for smooth animations
-- launching app - for some reasons there is a noticeable delay - that was rare on the G2
-- battery poor compared to the LG G2
-- games suffer from low frame rates compared to the LG G2.
-- youtube chrome cast bug - not a problem on G2 - means I'm unable to use me chromecast now. Bugger..
-- and the phone gets too hot..
-- hissing when using AUX output in car.
Antutu show the G3 as having lower performance them the G2.
I sold my G2 and feel like have just been robbed by LG. Yes, i loved the G2 and was expecting more of the same.
All this at the cost of having a quad hd screen - a marketing spec stunt, processor is marginally better then G2 on paper and GPU is the same as the G2. In real terms a massive step backwards in almost all regards.
I feel ****...

I have to agree in part.
I love this phone but it is clear that there are some steps backward.
The battery and slickness are my two main concerns.
However I LOVE the camera which is a substantial improvement.
I love the screen at 100% but it only takes about 3mins use before this gets throttled to 90%
The removable battery is a great idea in theory but I cannot find anywhere to buy a spare so what's the point?
The sd card is important to me and is probably the main reason I upgraded. If the G2 had a card slot I doubt I would have changed.
I am hoping many problems can be resolved in an update but I am getting the impression that LG are not the quickest with firmware updates - fingers crossed!

I have been reading too that it takes a week for the g3 to learn you use and battery life improves and I just hope the us models are better or they release a update to fix this issues
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You should return it and get your $
Purity Nexus 5

I have had mine over a week now and sot has maybe improved from 2hrs to 2hrs 30mins. Not enough of an improvement. I really want sot to last at least 3hrs 30 mins to see me through a full day of my usage.
I have read that to disable the permissions for the McAfee App will give significant improvements. I have just done this tonight so I will report back tomorrow if there is any improvement.

Spewy1 said:
I have had mine over a week now and sot has maybe improved from 2hrs to 2hrs 30mins. Not enough of an improvement. I really want sot to last at least 3hrs 30 mins to see me through a full day of my usage.
I have read that to disable the permissions for the McAfee App will give significant improvements. I have just done this tonight so I will report back tomorrow if there is any improvement.
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How have you done this?

Settings - security - phone administrators
Then you can force stop in apps.

Spewy1 said:
Settings - security - phone administrators
Then you can force stop in apps.
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I cant do that. Mcafee is greyed out. Was your that as well?

It was greyed out until I unticked the permissions in security , then when I returned to the app I was able to force stop.

vimto25 said:
How have you done this?
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my screen on time sits at nearly 4 hours, what are you doing?

LBTaylor1984 said:
my screen on time sits at nearly 4 hours, what are you doing?
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Nothing special, web browsing mainly. About 30 mins music. A bit of tweeting.
Screen set to 90% brightness.
WiFi and Bluetooth always on.

zeddys said:
I bought the 32gb, 3gb ram version from Amazon DE. I watched a lot of review sites and they generally praised the phone and said the performance was good. Here my initial thoughts:
-- the screen is too warm and makes everything look dull when compared to LG G2
-- Performance is very poor compared to the LG G2, G2 is snappy in comparison
-- animations, scrolling etc are running at 10-15fps or it seems. Compared to the LG G2, its buttery on the G2. Im a sucker for smooth animations
-- launching app - for some reasons there is a noticeable delay - that was rare on the G2
-- battery extremely poor compared to the LG G2
-- games suffer from low frame rates compared to the LG G2.
-- youtube chrome cast bug - not a problem on G2 - means I'm unable to use me chromecast now. Bugger..
-- and the phone gets too hot..
Antutu show the G3 as having lower performance them the G2.
I sold my G2 and feel like have just been robbed by LG. Yes, i loved the G2 and was expecting more of the same.
All this at the cost of having a quad hd screen - a marketing spec stunt, processor is marginally better then G2 on paper and GPU is the same as the G2. In real terms a massive step backwards in almost all regards.
I feel ****...
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The good news is, you can sell the G3 and buy two G2's to replace it.

Semantics said:
The good news is, you can sell the G3 and buy two G2's to replace it.
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Yup. That's for sure.

If its that bad download nomone and reduce the resolution. Personally i don't think its that bad, with a few tweaks and a custom launcher the phone is fine. I do think the S801 isn't really suitable for QHD though.
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Hopefully someone from LG will read it. This phone is the biggest shi..... I have ever had. It cannot be ompared to Lg G2- why i sold it!!!??? Now awaiting iPhone 6 then goodbye lg. They should fire every person who is responsible for this laggy brick!!!

Batfink33 said:
If its that bad download nomone and reduce the resolution. Personally i don't think its that bad, with a few tweaks and a custom launcher the phone is fine. I do think the S801 isn't really suitable for QHD though.
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You say that every single thread. We get it.
Anyways if you don't like the phone, return it.
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prfraczek said:
Hopefully someone from LG will read it. This phone is the biggest shi..... I have ever had. I can't compare to Lg G2- why i sold it!!!??? Now awaiting iPhone 6 then goodbye lg. They should fire every person who is responsible for this laggy brick!!!
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You obviously never had Samsung phones. Much worse.

prfraczek said:
Hopefully someone from LG will read it. This phone is the biggest shi..... I have ever had. It cannot be ompared to Lg G2- why i sold it!!!??? Now awaiting iPhone 6 then goodbye lg. They should fire every person who is responsible for this laggy brick!!!
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Now this, this is the type of compelling review that is sure to skew the masses from buying a G3. Just an all around well thought out, and worded review. Kudos!

I've had s3 few years ago... Yup u right both are useless.
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Btw yesterday i was setting up iphone 4- few years old with 'sluggish' ios 7 and this mobile is just flying campared to g3

Spewy1 said:
I have had mine over a week now and sot has maybe improved from 2hrs to 2hrs 30mins. Not enough of an improvement. I really want sot to last at least 3hrs 30 mins to see me through a full day of my usage.
I have read that to disable the permissions for the McAfee App will give significant improvements. I have just done this tonight so I will report back tomorrow if there is any improvement.
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My SOT in the first few days was over 5Hrs...
EDIT: I see you had brightness at 90%, I keep mine at 50% with auto on
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prfraczek said:
I've had s3 few years ago... Yup u right both are useless.
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Btw yesterday i was setting up iphone 4- few years old with 'sluggish' ios 7 and this mobile is just flying campared to g3
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The lag goes away using a third party launcher such as nova. The phone hardware is fantastic, it's the software that lets it down in some things. With iPhones it is the complete opposite

Lostatsea23 said:
You say that every single thread. We get it.
Anyways if you don't like the phone, return it.
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You obviously never had Samsung phones. Much worse.
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Yeah, I have said that a bit too much lol. I'll stop now.
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Any ex iPhone 6 plus users??

Hi guys, just wondering how many of you out there owned a iPhone 6 plus & then went to a note 4??
Im currently thinking about jumping ship, there's things I love about the iPhone 6 plus & then there's things a like about the note 4!
Any advice guys?
Cheers
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I have both.Acc to me iphone 6 plus is fast in opening apps,front cam is better.Games are smoother than in Note 4.But there's a lot of freedom in Note 4.Also Note 4 is way ahead in Multitasking.Sound in iphone with headphones is better with good bass & clarity.
But if you'll switch there will be no regret
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gibbo82 said:
Hi guys, just wondering how many of you out there owned a iPhone 6 plus & then went to a note 4??
Im currently thinking about jumping ship, there's things I love about the iPhone 6 plus & then there's things a like about the note 4!
Any advice guys?
Cheers
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Decisions are made by thinking what kind of life you have and what kind of guy you are, its very simple, if you like simplicity just stay with your iPhone, now if you are like me, a techy guys, first of all that's why I haven't own any apple products cuz you have to stick with what they offer that's all, like I was saying, myself, I like to play around, rooting, flashing roms, I like to have control of my phone, my cpu, my gpu, I like to overclock, under clock, overvolt, undervolt, I like the way I can make my phone software different from others, because I HAVE FULL CONTROL, I like my 32GB Note 4 plus my 128GB micro SD card, yes that's a hard drive, but I use it cuz im rooted and now I can record 4k videos for 30 minutes instead 5min stock, you have the idea??? i can go anywhere and plug my phone via usb and have access to my phone, i don't have to rely on apple software or any software to access my phone or transfer anything from any computer. Yes i know you guys can jailbreak but, its not even close, i work with several iphone users, i wish u can see their face admitting and showing me their iphone lagging, but lagging like really bad on the browser, u cant still access a lot of sites, no flash player support, damn if i keep going i wont let another user share their thoughts, well i hope you got my point, good luck bro if you ever jump to the Note 4 it will be a good experience, Android is open source, and that's what makes the difference, cheers:fingers-crossed:
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RISHI RAJ said:
I have both.Acc to me iphone 6 plus is fast in opening apps,front cam is better.Games are smoother than in Note 4.But there's a lot of freedom in Note 4.Also Note 4 is way ahead in Multitasking.Sound in iphone with headphones is better with good bass & clarity.
But if you'll switch there will be no regret
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that's stock vs stock, now bring me your iphone and lets play any song, like i said, after you root android its another world, after flashing Dr. Kertan sound mode on my Note 4 its definitely louder and better than my friends iphone, in everyway, also i don't have any problems playing any high end game on my Exynos Note 4. Also which Note did you compare the front camera? the 3.7MP wide lens on the front camera of the Note 4 is far way better than the one in the iphone, and im not talking because of the pixels, cheers:fingers-crossed:

I like the iPhone 6 plus for its simplicity os, better range of apps that seem more stable than android (although android is catching up). I love the iPhone's keyboard, And yes the music seems more loud & clearer on the iPhone. The battery on the 6+ is amazing. I like android because it's so open & your not limited like iOS. I'm also a tech guy & like to play about. It's like having a mini PC in your hand.
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Oh boy! There we go. Another iOS vs Android war.
Anyways im just gonna contribute mine too. Y'all iPrisoners have no idea what you are missing until u get out of it. I used to be one myself until i crawled out of darkness. So I'd say dont just stick to people's opinions,buy it,try it and see for yourself.

IOS is simple from the beginning but the problem is if you already know all of it and you want to do more, you cannot do it on an iPhone. While on Android, it is not that complicated that you almost cannot use it from the start. But in time, it will get simpler. And if you already get used to it and you want to do more, you can do it on android. If you want more feature on Android, just install a third party app. While on IOS, you have to wait for a major upgrade to get few simple features. But still depends on your preferences.

If you're a heavy gamer, don't buy the Note 4. The gaming performance is great in Note 4 BUT after 20 mins the GPU underclocks and the game become laggy because it's overheating. I played intensive games in my sister's 6 Plus for 2 hours and the performance was still good.

Even though I have a Note 4 I would say keep the Iphone 6 plus, I had an iphone 6 and I miss quite a few thing about it, mostly the fluidness of ios 8.2 , I just couldn't deal with the poor battery life , the small and low res screen, but the Iphone 6 plus solves all of that, I would say wait for the note 5 maybe, the current touchwiz is quite ugly, we are still to get the new touchwiz found on the s6, lollipop 5.0.1 is slow , there's no permanent root, the bezels of the phone scratch like crazy, maybe wait a few months for thigs to settle , but I would say right now is not worth it ...

yoniinfante said:
Decisions are made by thinking what kind of life you have and what kind of guy you are, its very simple, if you like simplicity just stay with your iPhone, now if you are like me, a techy guys, first of all that's why I haven't own any apple products cuz you have to stick with what they offer that's all, like I was saying, myself, I like to play around, rooting, flashing roms, I like to have control of my phone, my cpu, my gpu, I like to overclock, under clock, overvolt, undervolt, I like the way I can make my phone software different from others, because I HAVE FULL CONTROL, I like my 32GB Note 4 plus my 128GB micro SD card, yes that's a hard drive, but I use it cuz im rooted and now I can record 4k videos for 30 minutes instead 5min stock, you have the idea??? i can go anywhere and plug my phone via usb and have access to my phone, i don't have to rely on apple software or any software to access my phone or transfer anything from any computer. Yes i know you guys can jailbreak but, its not even close, i work with several iphone users, i wish u can see their face admitting and showing me their iphone lagging, but lagging like really bad on the browser, u cant still access a lot of sites, no flash player support, damn if i keep going i wont let another user share their thoughts, well i hope you got my point, good luck bro if you ever jump to the Note 4 it will be a good experience, Android is open source, and that's what makes the difference, cheers:fingers-crossed:
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that's stock vs stock, now bring me your iphone and lets play any song, like i said, after you root android its another world, after flashing Dr. Kertan sound mode on my Note 4 its definitely louder and better than my friends iphone, in everyway, also i don't have any problems playing any high end game on my Exynos Note 4. Also which Note did you compare the front camera? the 3.7MP wide lens on the front camera of the Note 4 is far way better than the one in the iphone, and im not talking because of the pixels, cheers:fingers-crossed:
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also remember note 4 is like half the price! it has s-pen and etc(good screen) anyway note 4 disappointing me alot, even to the point of considering iphone! i had nexus 4 before, i got this as a gift, specially the updates are driving me crazy!
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scout16 said:
If you're a heavy gamer, don't buy the Note 4. The gaming performance is great in Note 4 BUT after 20 mins the GPU underclocks and the game become laggy because it's overheating. I played intensive games in my sister's 6 Plus for 2 hours and the performance was still good.
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if i don't consider iphone an option but am a heavy gamer, what android phones would you recommend? (bigger = better )

kamranhaghighi said:
also remember note 4 is like half the price! it has s-pen and etc(good screen) anyway note 4 disappointing me alot, even to the point of considering iphone! i had nexus 4 before, i got this as a gift, specially the updates are driving me crazy!
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if i don't consider iphone an option but am a heavy gamer, what android phones would you recommend? (bigger = better )
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Nvidia Shield Tablet. But if you really want a phone, get the HTC One M8. It has a little slower and outdated hardware but more stable performance when playing games.

scout16 said:
Nvidia Shield Tablet. But if you really want a phone, get the HTC One M8. It has a little slower and outdated hardware but more stable performance when playing games.
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My father has it its small but awesome!
What do you think about moto x,z ultra(only if it had qhd.. I mean pixels are bigger than my face) g4 and nexus 6? I guess g3 lags!
I was going to buy shield when i unexpectedly received this gift :/ now i cant change phones for 2 years!(my fatger bought it)
Btw i was just playing nova 3 as test, not even the slightest lag, but its much less intense! I rrmebe whenni first bought it it didnt lag!

@yoniinfante
Im also a fan of Note 4 but you have to accept the truth that iphone 6+ is definitely better in front cam,there's no doubt about it.Also in terms of sound it is mind blowing out of the box & not by modding or rooting which voids the warranty.Gaming is also smooth in it,even playing for long durations.

I jumped ship. I had the iPhone 6 tough.
I do have a reason for the switch though and it stems from the bending issue.. I had my iphone 6 bend. even with the applecare + 2 year warranty, they laughed and told me I sat on it.
I've had every iPhone since they were released..
Went home, posted mine, my wife's iphones, 2 x apple tv and 2 ipads. All gone..
Apple is a garbage company.

The reason why it lags because the phone overheats. So if you know how to tweak your phones and install custom kernels, buy a faster phone and just underclock it so that it won't overheat instead of buying a slower phone. Most of the games can still be handled by Note 4 even on half the clock speed. And when you need a faster speed, you can set it back to normal clock.

f4vr said:
The reason why it lags because the phone overheats. So if you know how to tweak your phones and install custom kernels, buy a faster phone and just underclock it so that it won't overheat instead of buying a slower phone. Most of the games can still be handled by Note 4 even on half the clock speed. And when you need a faster speed, you can set it back to normal clock.
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Do you have any suggestions for the 910H variant that tends to overheat on average moderate usage? As it has no much custom kernels support

Abdl said:
Do you have any suggestions for the 910H variant that tends to overheat on average moderate usage? As it has no much custom kernels support
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Actually I encountered an issue last time that my phone gets hot even when doing simple tasks. It turns out that some application is consistently using my CPU. You can see the thread I created below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/upper-screen-getting-hot-t3103904

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Actually I encountered an issue last time that my phone gets hot even when doing simple tasks. It turns out that some application is consistently using my CPU. You can see the thread I created below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/upper-screen-getting-hot-t3103904
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I dont seem to have any problem with knox app. Perhaps it could be a different app/process. Any way to confirm that?

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I dont seem to have any problem with knox app. Perhaps it could be a different app/process. Any way to confirm that?
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Install Elixir 2 app and look for any process that is constantly running or getting high CPU on the background even when you're not using it.

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Install Elixir 2 app and look for any process that is constantly running or getting high CPU on the background even when you're not using it.
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Ok here is what i saw. Are u referring to this?? It seems to be the heaviest cpu consumer on my device.

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Ok here is what i saw. Are u referring to this?? It seems to be the heaviest cpu consumer on my device.
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Yes. That's the same with what I have last time. If you didn't install any additional third party security software, it could be the Knox application.
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Yes. That's the same with what I have last time. If you didn't install any additional third party security software, it could be the Knox application.
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If you are rooted, try to freeze all Knox application using Link2SD.

Quick review of the Note 5

So I was at Best buy and played with the 5 for an hour. I tested it side by side with my Note 4. I ran a number of apps and it is a little quicker than the 4, but not in any wow factor way. Camera did open faster and the left multitasking didn't have the lag that my Note 4 has. The screen is slightly more saturated, but again, not really significantly. Side by side they look the same, in fact it's really hard to see the difference (especially if it was in a case).
Exterior is nice and it is slightly narrower, but unfortunately my fingers kept sticking to the glass back.
The 6+ is nice, and I like the new side launcher. Both devices are just supersized s6 and s6 edges.
Feels like when a car company goes from its 2014 to 2015 model. It's basically the same with a few bells and whistles.
Aside from SD and no removable battery (which are probably deal killers for me anyway), I could not justify buying this device unless the price was $450. Then I would put up with the compromise of no sd and changeable battery. But no way I would spend $850-900, especially with other offerings coming up. I bet I am not alone here.
Nothing out there today is a step up from the note 4, for me anyway. This should have been the note 4. I think Samsung has a problem on its hands. I hope I am wrong.
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You're def not alone...i have the Note Edge and I've been dying for the N5 release. Truthfully I'm not very happy with the Edge and wanted to go back to a regular phone. I cant get away from Multi window as i use it every day and i love the spen so it was go back to N4 or wait for the N5. Needless to say i waited and am pretty dissapointed with the battery and sd situation. I think i will still try it out and bring it back within the 15 days if i dont like it and maybe jump to a plain N4. How could they lower the mah to 3000 it just boggles my mind. I have a 24,000mah anker battery but one of the reasons i get every note is so i dont look like an Iphone user trying to find a plug ? at restareas, bus stops, etc...the sd im not too worried about with the 64 model plus a flashdrive i can make do but the battery is just simply dissapointing. I may be judging prematurely but im basing my judgement on the S6 battery life which has the same exynos chip less mah but also a smaller screen and less features so im guessing it will balance out and be about the same as the s6 which from my understanding is sub par to begin with. As for them using the glass as an alternative to plastic and calling it a superior build quality, does anyone use their phone without a cover and if you do will you now with glass? You wont even see the back so they could have just as easily used a removable titanium, aluminum, plastic back instead of glass...im just dissapointed plain and simple
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Hopefully ill get 7,8 hrs sot and ill change my mind...i use to get 8 to 10 sot with my N3 running Tweaked rom and Lean Kernel, now with Edge i get 3 to 4 hrs sot..we'll c i guess
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This is a good sign tho....put a smile on my face
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=62324314

Is Z3+ worth the MONEY?

Hi guys (especially to z3+ users)! I would like to buy a Z series Xperia phone. So far (aside from the Z5), Z3+ is the only Z series that has a 5MP front camera (front cam is one of my criteria in choosing a phone). My other options are M5 and Z2 (but Z2's front camera is only 2MP..) I am also concerned with its overheating issue..is that really true or just a black propaganda? Is this phone worth the money?
By the way, if you will rate your satisfaction of Z3+ from 1 (LOWEST) to 10 (HIGHEST), what will be your score?
Thank you in advance for your opinions!

I suggest you wait until 5'1.1 update shows up. Because now most of us facing poor battery life and heat issue.
You know what, I compare my z3+ with my Z1
Most of the time Z1 open apps faster, despite it's three generations older.
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My z3+ does really have heat issue, and when it gets hot device run slower and start to lag.

I don't have heat problems and it runs smooth from the last update z3+. Yes it gets warm not hot. It's normal if it gets warm a little bit. So far i am satisfied.
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When u buy the phone or if you do it don't put anything in it. Update it first then do a factory reset and then put your app.
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Thank you for your opinions & tips! They're helpful I guess I'll just wait until November or December before I buy Z3+. By then, I hope the price will be less expensive. Z5 seems to be really awesome but I guess its price will be way out of my budget. Haha.

One word answer = Yes

By the way, if you will rate your satisfaction of Z3+ from 1 (LOWEST) to 10 (HIGHEST), what will be your score?

mark_q07 said:
By the way, if you will rate your satisfaction of Z3+ from 1 (LOWEST) to 10 (HIGHEST), what will be your score?
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4.75/5
0.25 for not having 5.1.1

If you have one of those devices which doesn't overheat so the answer would be yes. In the other hand, It's an expensive brick or toaster. My Z1 was a much better device even 2 years later. The battery last nothing, overheats a LOT (after updating to the latest version is working better but still) and the performance drops significantly. I'm about to returning it because I don't want to wait until Sony decides to give us a proper solution and I can barely use it (I tried all the possible software fixes). The problem is that I don't like other device (maybe Oneplus Two but it's too difficult to get).

illetyus said:
4.75/5
0.25 for not having 5.1.1
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Don't worry. Z3+ is a Z series Xperia. Sooner or later, it will get a software update. This phone is even included in the upcoming Marshmallow update

DryKillLogic said:
If you have one of those devices which doesn't overheat so the answer would be yes. In the other hand, It's an expensive brick or toaster. My Z1 was a much better device even 2 years later. The battery last nothing, overheats a LOT (after updating to the latest version is working better but still) and the performance drops significantly. I'm about to returning it because I don't want to wait until Sony decides to give us a proper solution and I can barely use it (I tried all the possible software fixes). The problem is that I don't like other device (maybe Oneplus Two but it's too difficult to get).
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"When u buy the phone or if you do it don't put anything in it. Update it first then do a factory reset and then put your app. " - trumastanr1
Did you already do what "trumastanr1" suggested?

mark_q07 said:
"When u buy the phone or if you do it don't put anything in it. Update it first then do a factory reset and then put your app. " - trumastanr1
Did you already do what "trumastanr1" suggested?
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Not for all users works, before last update two factory resets give a usable (not ideal) Z3+, after last update, three repairs and two factory resets give an almost-non-usable device that gets so hot so easily.....
Much of this variation is due to usage difference, so also depends in what is yours....
In general I think my z3c has (a lot) better performance, but I also think some software updates will solve all major issues, still I have to say I'm a little disappointed with this phone...
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QBerto said:
Not for all users works, before last update two factory resets give a usable (not ideal) Z3+, after last update, three repairs and two factory resets give an almost-non-usable device that gets so hot so easily.....
Much of this variation is due to usage difference, so also depends in what is yours....
In general I think my z3c has (a lot) better performance, but I also think some software updates will solve all major issues, still I have to say I'm a little disappointed with this phone...
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I see. I hope the future updates will solve its major issues.

Alright you know what caused mine to overheat even after update an app. Took it away now it's fixed.
ME
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Hope for the new update
ME

Haven't noted much issues with overheating, but I've only played a bit of games here and there on it. Still waiting for a rooted firmware before I make it my daily driver.

I think it is. It's a great phone with one big flaw everyone keeps talking about, and that will probably be fixed at some point.

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Haven't noted much issues with overheating, but I've only played a bit of games here and there on it. Still waiting for a rooted firmware before I make it my daily driver.
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The phone does not need root It's performance is as good as rooted ones.

Uhhm at this point Im really disappointed with this device peformance..It gets really hot even tho after 251 update android 5.0.2...It really sucks If I would compare Z3 and Z3+. My Z3 is way faster..my z3+ are so damn slow...but the design of z3+ is so much better... This is my judge for now..I really hope that a new update is coming and some custom roms will hit online soon. Maybe I will skip this device and buy a Z5...lets see if the update will change my mind

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The phone does not need root It's performance is as good as rooted ones.
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I'm not sure if you've noticed but the process of unlocking the bootloader in order to root the phone removes the DRM keys and diminishes camera performance, amongst other things.
This has nothing to do with performance and everything to do with restoring app backups as helium doesn't work properly on the z3+.
So unless you can suggest a way to do that (as well as installing cerberus on the system partition, uninstalling sony bloatware, spoofing mac addresses for fun and profi etc) then I would make the argument that rooting is required, well at least for me anyway.
Yes I am aware of the pre-rooted kernel by devires, but I'm waiting for dl12345's publicly released solution before taking the plunge.

Am begging for an update that fix heat problem, if this is fixed I can say is totally worth.

In terms of satisfaction, for me it's 9/10 -- for things it can do for me that off-set the negative PR.
Mainly it loses a point because the native camera app cannot record video 'forever' - the native camera app shuts itself off saying the phone is too hot after about half an hour. However using Google Camera app for video I can record 1080P video basically forever.
But it justifies points with me for the following from the top of my head-
+ Stereo sound recorded with video (coming from iPhone this is MAJOR for me)
+ microSD expandable to 128GB
+ internal SSD is 32GB which is much better starting point
+ OTG capability
+ Waterproof* with capless USB port
+ No buttons on the front (no really, I love this)
+ Call quality sounds better than my old iPhone 6 Plus
+ Decent camera for stills and video
+ Sony take audio seriously, also nice to find a mild dynamic compression option for music
+ Battery stamina modes are useful compared to anything on iOS 8 (I guess same exists on iOS 9 now)
+ If I get a notification on my phone without dismissing it but catch up on my computer - the notification dismisses itself on the phone (unlike iOS where it would never sync like that)
+ 3GB RAM, FWIW this doesn't impress me but hey
+ 64bit so in theory should have some longevity (famous last words)
+ Cheaper eco-system than iOS, no more £17.99 sync cables (I swear my kids chew them or something)
+ Really easy to record the screen (which presumably could also record phone calls - interesting), can also record the screen whilst engaging the selfie camera PiP
Currently on 5.0.2, I do think update to 5.1.1 (or M) will make this phone even better based on how 5.1.1 performs on my Z2 (which was second-hand refurb gateway to my Z3+)
The Z3+ does get warm when it's working hard (Star Wars Uprising) but in general use I don't notice any thermal issues even if they do exist.

Hate my S8, which AOSP phone to buy?

Hi everyone. I've searched all over xda and Google, but it's hard to find a direct answer to this. The S8 is a great piece of kit, but after 2 years I'm just plain sick of using it. Not only is the screen burning in, the software keeps getting worse, and these snapdragon models (950u) don't look ROM friendly. After the pie update, I'm ready to find a Li eage OS-friendly alternative. Anybody else feel the same way? What did you do?

DrivenKeys said:
Hi everyone. I've searched all over xda and Google, but it's hard to find a direct answer to this. The S8 is a great piece of kit, but after 2 years I'm just plain sick of using it. If it weren't for the camera, I'd go back to my S5 with LineageOS.
I just installed the new Pie update, and I'm about to throw my S8 out the window. It's laggy as hell and still retains every annoyance, just prettier now...with removed functionality. I'm done. What AOSP friendly phone is best to replace this one? My most important features are the camera, expandable memory, water resistance, hdmi out, and headphones jack. I don't care if it's older, but the camera must at least be equal to this.
Also, a screen without burn-in is a big perk. After 4 years of daily navigation my S5 still has a clean screen, but my S8 has the Google Maps UI burned in after less than 2 years. What a piece of crap! After 2002, burn in was something you explained when kids asked about screen savers, or you'd see only in screens that were left on for months. Ironically, Samsung pioneered the screens that solved burn-in back then, now they just want you to throw away this garbage a couple years later. Disgusting.
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Google pixel and one plus 6T are the best options imo.
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I feel exactly like you after using s8 for 1 and a half years.
I was using redmi note 3 with resurrection remix rom.
Like this phone only for camera.

https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...development/rom-lineageos-15-1-t3899829/page7
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Some good news.
Might wanna wait.

Drzhivagolikesandroid said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...development/rom-lineageos-15-1-t3899829/page7
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Some good news.
Might wanna wait.
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Yes, I have a Snapdragon G950U (tmo). Oh, so close! I'm completely new to exynos projects, do they often make it to snapdragons easily? Will the bootloader battery restriction still be an issue?
On a related note, I've seen some posts saying Samsung has sometimes replaced burnt screens. Anybody else had experience here? Even if I keep the phone, this screen needs replacement. If I have to pay for that, it seems easier to sell this one and buy a rom-friendly phone. If that's the case, I probably don't want to get another Samsung.