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I have an I9505 running lollipop and struggling to address intermittent lag.
Broadly speaking the phone starts off working well, snappy.. but after a while can start to lag. By this I mean a press on the home button may result in a 20s+ delay for the task manager to come up. Switching a task may be slow, the keyboard may take 10-20s to appear, the screen may be mostly blank for a while. It doesn't crash, and does "come back" but it's nearly unusable. Usually once switched to a task and settled down scrolling is ok. then it may work just fine, snappy for a while
I don't see oddly high figures in the various stats I can see - cpu time isn't excessive. memory is harder to interpret and at times I do see kswapd busy just after a wakeup.. so my suspicion is it's a memory leak but one I can't prove
I've tried alternative kernels - hulk, imperium, and they don't appear to help matters at all.
The lollipop build was clean & Current firmware is I9505XXUHOD7, BTU
I am rooted and have progressively disabled various packages I don't use in an effort to lighten the environment
I've disabled animations (a cause of memory leaks in 5.0.1, though supposedly not affecting samsung touchwiz)
I am a software engineer and very familar with better battery stats, gsam, even a quick peruse through dumps via adb yet still haven't got to the bottom of my issue. I'm also very aware there's little in the way of solid facts to help debug a problem in this posting......
The next step is going to be a strip back - clean install, slow addition of apps. In the meantime can anyone identify any issues they've seen with any particular apps?
planetf1 said:
I have an I9505 running lollipop and struggling to address intermittent lag.
Broadly speaking the phone starts off working well, snappy.. but after a while can start to lag. By this I mean a press on the home button may result in a 20s+ delay for the task manager to come up. Switching a task may be slow, the keyboard may take 10-20s to appear, the screen may be mostly blank for a while. It doesn't crash, and does "come back" but it's nearly unusable. Usually once switched to a task and settled down scrolling is ok. then it may work just fine, snappy for a while
I don't see oddly high figures in the various stats I can see - cpu time isn't excessive. memory is harder to interpret and at times I do see kswapd busy just after a wakeup.. so my suspicion is it's a memory leak but one I can't prove
I've tried alternative kernels - hulk, imperium, and they don't appear to help matters at all.
The lollipop build was clean & Current firmware is I9505XXUHOD7, BTU
I am rooted and have progressively disabled various packages I don't use in an effort to lighten the environment
I've disabled animations (a cause of memory leaks in 5.0.1, though supposedly not affecting samsung touchwiz)
I am a software engineer and very familar with better battery stats, gsam, even a quick peruse through dumps via adb yet still haven't got to the bottom of my issue. I'm also very aware there's little in the way of solid facts to help debug a problem in this posting......
The next step is going to be a strip back - clean install, slow addition of apps. In the meantime can anyone identify any issues they've seen with any particular apps?
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I should add that I did previously use CM12 and that left a little laggy too, though not tried CM12.1 . The two factors holding me back - a) better/reliable camera in TW b) Beep'n'go - love the app. works everywhere unlike every other loyalty card app I've tried (uses proximity sensor pulsing, Samsung TW specific)
planetf1 said:
I should add that I did previously use CM12 and that left a little laggy too, though not tried CM12.1 . The two factors holding me back - a) better/reliable camera in TW b) Beep'n'go - love the app. works everywhere unlike every other loyalty card app I've tried (uses proximity sensor pulsing, Samsung TW specific)
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Hi,
try to disable swap devices, if there is any. If I know well, stock Lollipop ROM uses compressed swap devices in memory, like in stock KitKat ROM (zram).
In a terminal/shell:
- List currently used swap devices:
Code:
cat /proc/swaps
- Switch to root:
Code:
su
- Disable swap devices:
Code:
swapoff /dev/swapdevice
or if you have Busybox installed:
Code:
busybox swapoff /dev/swapdevice
Where /dev/swapdevice is the swap device/partition, which you want to disable.
It's the best to do this in some kind of init.d scripts before the system starts.
I am on still KitKat+rooted, but this should work on Lollipop, too.
Good luck!
planetf1 said:
The next step is going to be a strip back - clean install, slow addition of apps. In the meantime can anyone identify any issues they've seen with any particular apps?
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I think this is the best thing to do. I suffered a weird wifi issue that no else had. A fresh/clean install of the same lollipop ROM and kernel fixed it. Haven't noticed any apps causing lag on lollipop.
Hi Guys,
I am a new Note 4 user, I've had note 2 before. Recently I have used Z3, OneplusOne and S5, which in my opinion other than the S5, the phones were smooth and laggieness was non existence. I have since changed to the Note 4 and immediately I have realised that even in the kitkat (currently running lollipop) that the phone lags when changing between the programs, turning on the camera, or even after a picture has been taken it takes a while to get to respond. Hardwar-wise I believe the Note 4 is very respective and I can only blame this on the software. I have since upgraded to lollipop and I must say the performance is no different than before. Could anyone tell me without rooting and installing a modified rom, is there a way to increase the smoothness of the phone? it is because of the bloatware? how to de-bloat? or is it just how it is?
Thanks
Patrick
the better is a clean installation and after that come back and report any issue's
Thanks vagenrider but this issue was already apparent when I first used the phone right out of the box and noticed the lag.
pplwu said:
Thanks vagenrider but this issue was already apparent when I first used the phone right out of the box and noticed the lag.
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hi,
I can say this,
that i had my Note4 (N910F rooted, stock Rom.) since October 2014 till now.
Overall i had little or no "lag" of note. (apart from Recent button plus an setting issue.. minor )
Over this period of time, if i found/noticed a bit of "lag" and i found culprit, causing the problem, I would uninstall app,
i also noticed, so far that it has always been a 3rd party (badly coded.. or on lollipop the app was not "playing" nicely.. etc etc)
So overall.... when i was on Android v 4.4.4 or now on Lollipop my device has been working fine.. battery use, been good, very, very smooth
So all i can say, if you have issues it is either you have a faulty device or an app/combination of apps causing lag.or setting issue
I have stated this, in many of my post that i have following devices.. on hand
Note 4, Note 3,Note 8.0 (tab) Note 2 and they all running fine..( 100% satisfaction)
Bottom line
is that i think i am in a good position to state that my Note 4 compares 100%plus, with my Note3(which is a very very, good device, smooth no lag, etc etc)
Above is just my opinion and i hope that you can sort out your device
Good luck
pplwu said:
Hi Guys,
I am a new Note 4 user, I've had note 2 before. Recently I have used Z3, OneplusOne and S5, which in my opinion other than the S5, the phones were smooth and laggieness was non existence. I have since changed to the Note 4 and immediately I have realised that even in the kitkat (currently running lollipop) that the phone lags when changing between the programs, turning on the camera, or even after a picture has been taken it takes a while to get to respond. Hardwar-wise I believe the Note 4 is very respective and I can only blame this on the software. I have since upgraded to lollipop and I must say the performance is no different than before. Could anyone tell me without rooting and installing a modified rom, is there a way to increase the smoothness of the phone? it is because of the bloatware? how to de-bloat? or is it just how it is?
Thanks
Patrick
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I am having the same issues with my device. I've had it with both lollipop and KK. I've had multiple ROMS (all stock). I've done fresh installs, cleaned cache, disabled apps, and completely run with none of my apps installed. All the same issues, as you've mentioned. I'm thinking of returning my note 4 if they don't fix it by 5.1.1 or August. This device cost way too much for these kinds of issues... :-\
zkyevolved said:
I am having the same issues with my device. I've had it with both lollipop and KK. I've had multiple ROMS (all stock). I've done fresh installs, cleaned cache, disabled apps, and completely run with none of my apps installed. All the same issues, as you've mentioned. I'm thinking of returning my note 4 if they don't fix it by 5.1.1 or August. This device cost way too much for these kinds of issues... :-\
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pplwu said:
Hi Guys,
I am a new Note 4 user, I've had note 2 before. Recently I have used Z3, OneplusOne and S5, which in my opinion other than the S5, the phones were smooth and laggieness was non existence. I have since changed to the Note 4 and immediately I have realised that even in the kitkat (currently running lollipop) that the phone lags when changing between the programs, turning on the camera, or even after a picture has been taken it takes a while to get to respond. Hardwar-wise I believe the Note 4 is very respective and I can only blame this on the software. I have since upgraded to lollipop and I must say the performance is no different than before. Could anyone tell me without rooting and installing a modified rom, is there a way to increase the smoothness of the phone? it is because of the bloatware? how to de-bloat? or is it just how it is?
Thanks
Patrick
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About debloating:
Without root you cannot really debloat the rom. You can only try to holding every app you don't need and drag&drop on touch wiz launcher and drag&drop it to "app details". New window with details will be prompted and you can delete or deactivate the app. This is everything you can do on stock to debloat.
About the main problem:
Also here without root and custom rom I could only suggest to try following:
Go to Settings app.
Scroll down to device information.
Tap few times (I think 5 times shoul it be) on build number to activate developer options.
Go back to main screen of settings, scroll down to developer options and open them.
So from here you can try to change following values:
- Force GPU rendering
- Turn off hardware overlays
- lower values for animations (all three) or just set them to zero if you don't need them. That gives really bounce speed (but mainly just for eyes, it doesn't really chages overall performance of device, just little bit maybe)
The nagtive thing of GPU and harware overlay is little bit higher the battery drain then usual.
vbaschen said:
About debloating:
Without root you cannot really debloat the rom. You can only try to holding every app you don't need and drag&drop on touch wiz launcher and drag&drop it to "app details". New window with details will be prompted and you can delete or deactivate the app. This is everything you can do on stock to debloat.
About the main problem:
Also here without root and custom rom I could only suggest to try following:
Go to Settings app.
Scroll down to device information.
Tap few times (I think 5 times shoul it be) on build number to activate developer options.
Go back to main screen of settings, scroll down to developer options and open them.
So from here you can try to change following values:
- Force GPU rendering
- Turn off hardware overlays
- lower values for animations (all three) or just set them to zero if you don't need them. That gives really bounce speed (but mainly just for eyes, it doesn't really chages overall performance of device, just little bit maybe)
The nagtive thing of GPU and harware overlay is little bit higher the battery drain then usual.
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Thanks for that!! I've just done the above, will use this setting for a while and see how it goes.
Hi Guys, after applying vbaschen's suggestion I believe the phone has improved in terms of window changing and smoothness in operation. Battery discharge hasn't affected me that much given the battery has always lasted an entire day of heavy use and I plug it in everynight. I would recommend this quick mod. Thanks again vbaschen.
vbaschen said:
About debloating:
Without root you cannot really debloat the rom. You can only try to holding every app you don't need and drag&drop on touch wiz launcher and drag&drop it to "app details". New window with details will be prompted and you can delete or deactivate the app. This is everything you can do on stock to debloat.
About the main problem:
Also here without root and custom rom I could only suggest to try following:
Go to Settings app.
Scroll down to device information.
Tap few times (I think 5 times shoul it be) on build number to activate developer options.
Go back to main screen of settings, scroll down to developer options and open them.
So from here you can try to change following values:
- Force GPU rendering
- Turn off hardware overlays
- lower values for animations (all three) or just set them to zero if you don't need them. That gives really bounce speed (but mainly just for eyes, it doesn't really chages overall performance of device, just little bit maybe)
The nagtive thing of GPU and harware overlay is little bit higher the battery drain then usual.
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Right on. I was going to recommend reducing the animation values as well as that is usually the case. Hope it helped!
Androidious said:
Right on. I was going to recommend reducing the animation values as well as that is usually the case. Hope it helped!
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I went for a completely different solution: the Note 4's Snapdragon cpu has the bad habit of heating up very quickly. Two or three minutes of heavy usage (gaming/emulation, or worst: piles of file operations, e.g. media scanner) make it shoot up to 85° C. To prevent serious damage, the cpu is then automatically scaled down to extremely low values, which results in abysmal performance. When I first unboxed my N910F and inserted my old sdcard, the media scanner went haywire because my sdcard was faulty (works alright in my old Note 2, but the Note 4 is picky). The phone quickly got too hot to even touch, ran sluggish as hell (AnTuTu scores between 24000 and 29000), then shut itself down. :crying:
After I had replaced the sdcard, things got better, but only when I didn't put too much load on the phone: 52000 AnTuTu points in the morning (first thing to do with the cold phone), but getting worse steadily until I couldn't score more than 43000 points.
Now, after a lot of fiddling and tweaking (Kitkat, Lollipop, Stock, Custom, CM 12.1), I finally settled for (Lollipop) Emotion Revolution R8 ROM along with the Emotion nightly kernel (r17) and (most important) Synapse kernel tweaker. Instead of overclocking the blasted thing even more, I actually downclocked it one step (2572,8 MHz). The result: a rock stable phone that actually runs way better than with the higher (stock) clock rate. The cpu hardly ever scratches 70° C, and usually stays around 65° C even when I run demanding apps like PPSSPP, Dosbox, or Real Racing 3 (don't like that one, but it beats the s**t out of the cpu - 85° with stock cpu clock!). AnTuTu scores reach about 51500 - almost as much as with stock clock rate - but several times in a row now, with no performance hit. So, even though the peak performance may be one or two percent lower, I can run my phone for hours without any performance drops. Oh, and it's good for battery life, of course. :good:
So, if you're rooted, you may want to give it a shot. :fingers-crossed:
Having Lag & Heat Issues???
Is anyone having lag issue or any heat issues? I guess I have one of the problem notes as mine has extreme lag and heat problems. I have cleared all caches and have also factory reset several times. What's weird is that the lag will come and go, but it's there more often than not. Even scrolling in settings has the jitters.
Any ideas anyone. I might be better off going through the miserable process of exchanging through the mail.
Thanks in advance for any help!
You'll have to boot to safe mode to see if the issue persists. Also, make sure power saving mode isn't on (I've left it on before).
Majin101 said:
You'll have to boot to safe mode to see if the issue persists. Also, make sure power saving mode isn't on (I've left it on before).
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I'm experiencing the same issues - overheating, slowing down, serious lag. It's simply terrible. I exchanged it and the new one is just as bad and maybe even worse.
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I'm experiencing the same issues - overheating, slowing down, serious lag. It's simply terrible. I exchanged it and the new one is just as bad and maybe even worse.
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welcome to samsung
I have none of these problems and i am a heavy user
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My guess is it has to do with one or multiple of the apps you have installed. There is a 3 step process to fix this issue.
#1 - See if any of the apps you have installed are running rouge. Check, battery usage, RAM usage, and Data Usage to see if you have any bad apps. Uninstall any 3rd party apps that you installed that are running too much. They may just still need updated to be optimized for this new device. Also you can use the "sleep" (doze) feature in battery management to restrict apps that are running TOO much in the background. Also on any apps that are using too much data or RAM check the permissions. If an app does not need access to Data, Media etc to work properly turn off those permissions.
#2 Debloat the device. I like "Package Disabler Pro". Basically if it has Facebook, FB, or ATT in the name you should disable it. Also you can go through an disable any Samsung software you do not use as well. I would be careful about using the "disable all bloatware" button because it is not setup correctly for this new device yet.
#3 Give it some time. It you have a TON of media on a micro EXSD card then it can take a new phone a long time to index and create thumbnails for all of that information. It should speed up i about a day or so once it finishes indexing. this will also effect your battery life till it is completed.
ShrekOpher said:
My guess is it has to do with one or multiple of the apps you have installed. There is a 3 step process to fix this issue.
#1 - See if any of the apps you have installed are running rouge. Check, battery usage, RAM usage, and Data Usage to see if you have any bad apps. Uninstall any 3rd party apps that you installed that are running too much. They may just still need updated to be optimized for this new device. Also you can use the "sleep" (doze) feature in battery management to restrict apps that are running TOO much in the background. Also on any apps that are using too much data or RAM check the permissions. If an app does not need access to Data, Media etc to work properly turn off those permissions.
#2 Debloat the device. I like "Package Disabler Pro". Basically if it has Facebook, FB, or ATT in the name you should disable it. Also you can go through an disable any Samsung software you do not use as well. I would be careful about using the "disable all bloatware" button because it is not setup correctly for this new device yet.
#3 Give it some time. It you have a TON of media on a micro EXSD card then it can take a new phone a long time to index and create thumbnails for all of that information. It should speed up i about a day or so once it finishes indexing. this will also effect your battery life till it is completed.
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I used the disable all bloatware. Looks to be working fine.
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borijess said:
I used the disable all bloatware. Looks to be working fine.
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Yeah it will break Samsung Pay though... I think it's related to the UIBCVirtualSiftkey app, but have not confirmed that. Also it does not get nearly all of the bloatware. There is a ton of new AT&T junk it does not disable as well as a bunch of new Facebook crap and Samsung crap.
ShrekOpher said:
Yeah it will break Samsung Pay though... I think it's related to the UIBCVirtualSiftkey app, but have not confirmed that. Also it does not get nearly all of the bloatware. There is a ton of new AT&T junk it does not disable as well as a bunch of new Facebook crap and Samsung crap.
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Can you provide a list?
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borijess said:
Can you provide a list?
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Definitely. It gave me the perfect opportunity to try out the scroll capture. Let me know if you have any questions. This is what I have disabled so far without any issues. Once I get a full completed list I'll probably do a write up about how to clean up the dock ROM. I think I'm about 70% done with the list.
So far I'm getting about 6.5 hrs of SOT and about 28 his of usage.
ShrekOpher said:
Definitely. It gave me the perfect opportunity to try out the scroll capture. Let me know if you have any questions. This is what I have disabled so far without any issues. Once I get a full completed list I'll probably do a write up about how to clean up the dock ROM. I think I'm about 70% done with the list.
So far I'm getting about 6.5 hrs of SOT and about 28 his of usage.
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What is the file that could mess up Samsung pay? I can always restore disabled apps correct?
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borijess said:
What is the file that could mess up Samsung pay? I can always restore disabled apps correct?
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I am not positive but I think it's the UIBCVirtualSoftkey if the doesn't fix it. Just enable all of the stuff you disabled and reboot. Then only disable what's on my list. I can confirm is working with my setup.
I'm exchanging mine tomorrow and was hoping for better news but from your experience it sounds like I may have to deal with an expensive piece of crap.
ShrekOpher said:
My guess is it has to do with one or multiple of the apps you have installed. There is a 3 step process to fix this issue.
#1 - See if any of the apps you have installed are running rouge. Check, battery usage, RAM usage, and Data Usage to see if you have any bad apps. Uninstall any 3rd party apps that you installed that are running too much. They may just still need updated to be optimized for this new device. Also you can use the "sleep" (doze) feature in battery management to restrict apps that are running TOO much in the background. Also on any apps that are using too much data or RAM check the permissions. If an app does not need access to Data, Media etc to work properly turn off those permissions.
#2 Debloat the device. I like "Package Disabler Pro". Basically if it has Facebook, FB, or ATT in the name you should disable it. Also you can go through an disable any Samsung software you do not use as well. I would be careful about using the "disable all bloatware" button because it is not setup correctly for this new device yet.
#3 Give it some time. It you have a TON of media on a micro EXSD card then it can take a new phone a long time to index and create thumbnails for all of that information. It should speed up i about a day or so once it finishes indexing. this will also effect your battery life till it is completed.
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I used this app and it's worked wonders.
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This phone lags a lot especially in Chrome and other scrolling apps.. sometimes switching between apps takes lot of time too...I have been using Samsung phones for quite sometime, but unfortunately this is the phone lagging more than any other phone for me..debloated almost 150 apps, still the same..and it gets hot as well when watching videos...none of this happened for me on Note 5...I think Samsung screwed with Note7 software..when they initially released Grace UX software for Note 5, it was very smooth...but the final Note7 software seems to be laggy...the same apps and setup on Note5 doesn't give me these issues....gonna return and try my luck with new one...but good thing is battery life has been very good for me...easily 5hrs SOT whereas on Note5, I used to get only 3.5 hrs
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chrispyutec said:
Having Lag & Heat Issues???
Is anyone having lag issue or any heat issues? I guess I have one of the problem notes as mine has extreme lag and heat problems. I have cleared all caches and have also factory reset several times. What's weird is that the lag will come and go, but it's there more often than not. Even scrolling in settings has the jitters.
Any ideas anyone. I might be better off going through the miserable process of exchanging through the mail.
Thanks in advance for any help!
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I am exactly facing this issue..I am a heavy XDA user, so I monitor all the apps on phone and debloated lot (around 150) apps...still the same.. thing is lag doesn't happen all the times..but it starts from no where..but the phone consistently gets hot while moderate usage
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When the phone is working properly, bloatware should make no noticeable difference and debloating is unnecessary.
My Note 7 usually responds instantly, with no lag, no matter how heavily I'm using it. That's with nothing disabled or debloated. (I'm using the Google Now launcher but everything else is stock/default, with no esoteric apps or settings.)
However, on three occasions in the week I've had the phone, it's gotten into a mode with serious lag while typing. In this mode, even though the characters I type still show up on the screen instantly, I can type 3 or 4 characters with no sound feedback or vibration feedback; then, there will be 3 or 4 delayed clicks and vibrations in rapid succession.
When this serious-lag mode starts, it continues even if I close all apps and put the phone in Airplane mode. It also makes no difference if I turn on power-saving mode, or even maximum power-saving. The only thing I've found that fixes it (for a while) is rebooting.
The intermittent occurrence of the serious-lag problem shows that it's not a matter of the phone being underpowered or overloaded. There's some specific bug that needs to be fixed.
UPDATE: It just happened for a fourth time. And when the serious-lag mode starts, it's not just typing that has a delay with audio feedback. The feedback delay also occurs when I tap on icons, tap on the Back or Recent-apps soft-buttons, etc. There's a delay of up to a second or two between tapping and hearing the feedback.
On the other hand, compute-intensive tasks--such as playing streaming video--work properly even when the phone is in serious-lag mode. So that's further evidence that there is some specific bug, and not a general problem of being underpowered or overloaded.
Gary02468 said:
When the phone is working properly, bloatware should make no noticeable difference and debloating is unnecessary.
My Note 7 usually responds instantly, with no lag, no matter how heavily I'm using it. That's with nothing disabled or debloated. (I'm using the Google Now launcher but everything else is stock/default, with no esoteric apps or settings.)
However, on three occasions in the week I've had the phone, it's gotten into a mode with serious lag while typing. In this mode, even though the characters I type still show up on the screen instantly, I can type 3 or 4 characters with no sound feedback or vibration feedback; then, there will be 3 or 4 delayed clicks and vibrations in rapid succession.
When this serious-lag mode starts, it continues even if I close all apps and put the phone in Airplane mode. It also makes no difference if I turn on power-saving mode, or even maximum power-saving. The only thing I've found that fixes it (for a while) is rebooting.
The intermittent occurrence of the serious-lag problem shows that it's not a matter of the phone being underpowered or overloaded. There's some specific bug that needs to be fixed.
UPDATE: It just happened for a fourth time. And when the serious-lag mode starts, it's not just typing that has a delay with audio feedback. The feedback delay also occurs when I tap on icons, tap on the Back or Recent-apps soft-buttons, etc. There's a delay of up to a second or two between tapping and hearing the feedback.
On the other hand, compute-intensive tasks--such as playing streaming video--work properly even when the phone is in serious-lag mode. So that's further evidence that there is some specific bug, and not a general problem of being underpowered or overloaded.
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Curious, do these typing lags occur on the hangouts app?!?! It seems to be the ONLY app on my Note 5 (and all the other phones I've used) that has a VERY NOTICEABLE KEYBOARD LAG, especially with Samsung Stock keyboard. This happens even with other keyboards, but is WORST with samsung keyboard.....
quordandis said:
Curious, do these typing lags occur on the hangouts app?!?! It seems to be the ONLY app on my Note 5 (and all the other phones I've used) that has a VERY NOTICEABLE KEYBOARD LAG, especially with Samsung Stock keyboard. This happens even with other keyboards, but is WORST with samsung keyboard.....
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No, the problem I'm seeing is unrelated to any app or keyboard. When my phone is in serious-lag mode, the problem occurs across the board. When it's not in lag-mode (which it usually isn't), then there's no lag in any app, including Hangouts.
Gary02468 said:
No, the problem I'm seeing is unrelated to any app or keyboard. When my phone is in serious-lag mode, the problem occurs across the board. When it's not in lag-mode (which it usually isn't), then there's no lag in any app, including Hangouts.
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Hmmm.....interesting....I use the app os monitor to show which processes are running at high cpu %. Perhaps that can shed some light on your lag issue?
quordandis said:
Hmmm.....interesting....I use the app os monitor to show which processes are running at high cpu %. Perhaps that can shed some light on your lag issue?
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It happens even with all apps closed, no heat, no battery drain. It's not a side-effect of the phone being bogged down with anything.
Guys, this might be a solution to the jittery slow finger scrolling that seems to be plaguing “some” PH1 devices.
Before I get flamed, please note I’m genuinely trying to help out this community. I don’t own an essential phone but i’d like to. I own a oneplus 3 and recently experienced exactly the same slow finger scroll jitteryness even though flick scrolling was pure butter. This began to happen on my device all of a sudden and I tried everything (and I mean EVERYTHING!) to get to the bottom of why normal scrolling lists etc was totally smooth but if you dragged your finger slowly to scroll it was horribly jittery or juddery. I even tried different kernels, GPU Rendering toggling etc etc etc. I finally got my slow finger scrolling back to being buttery smoooth again purely by chance.
I removed 2 apps that I had set “on” in accessibility settings. BAM! Slow scrolling changed immediately from horrible to smooth. Now I dont know if it was having both apps enabled in Accessibility settings or just one but I dont really care. All I know is that my phone responded immediately on making this change, no need for a reboot. Why did this make my phone slow scrolling lag? I’ve no idea. But, just to double check it was this I re-enabled the 2 apps in Accessibility settings and guess what, normal scrolling stayed buttery smooth but slow finger scrolling changed back to lumpy, jittery, almost like the text was vibrating as it scrolled on the screen.
I know some of you will think “WTF!” and so did I on discovering this. Why would this innocuous setting make a difference to scrolling???
Anyway, give this a try. I know my phone is different to yours but the way my phone went was exactly like the scrolling on the essential phone in the youtube videos floating around. Horrible!! Afterwards, my scrolling is back to pure butter in all scenarios.
I hope this solves the issue for you guys. Good luck and let me know if this works for you
p.s. just to be clear, my 2 apps were Nova launcher and Caller Name Talker. Setting both these to “off” did the trick for me. In your case I’d advise setting ANY apps you have “on” in Accessibility settings to “off”. If it doesn’t work immediately, try a reboot although my Oneplus 3 didn’t need a reboot :good:
Thanks for the tips!! Unfortunately I currently have Nova Launcher set to "off" in the accessibility settings and don't have the other app you're talking about. I still have the stutter
Good thing is, Essential said they do have a fix for it and will push it out in the next OTA this month
flakko86 said:
Thanks for the tips!! Unfortunately I currently have Nova Launcher set to "off" in the accessibility settings and don't have the other app you're talking about. I still have the stutter
Good thing is, Essential said they do have a fix for it and will push it out in the next OTA this month
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Well if they do manage to fix this issue then I will definitely buy one. Providing of course that they sort out any early batch quality control issues too. This is without doubt the most beautiful phone ever created.
Camera quality is not important to me but smoothness is my thing. Thats why I don’t buy Samsung/HTC/LG anymore. I’ve seen my brothers s7 edge and it’s a disgraceful stutter/lagfest compared to my Oneplus 3. I got fed up of trying to hone laggy “flagship” phones to be smoother years ago. Pure android or as close to it now for me.
Only totally smooth phones I’ve ever known are Nexus, Oneplus and Pixel phones. My current Oneplus 3 is the smoothest android experience Ive ever had upto now and although I was looking to upgrade in 2017 to something with a SD835 chip, nothing apart from Essential phone has perked my interest so far.
Good to know there's an OTA coming. Mine seems worse when I'm plugged in charging. Scrolling twitter it will freeze, then sometimes it jumps around opening links I never clicked on.
Also, anyone have trouble registering presses on the edge of phone? Any settings in the top right take about 4 or 5 presses to open.
The official fix is coming. Essential received a fix from Qualcomm and it will be included in Octobers second update, it also includes latest security patch
Hi,
I've noticed a UI lag when switching between apps or transitioning from an open app to home screen. This didn't happen in the Android 10 beta rom. Anybody have the same issue? I clean flashed the stable android 10.
I can confirm this issue in the stable release. But I would like to add that this lag was already in the beta release and is in my testing not app specific. I would clear the cache and make a reboot.
Go into developer options and disable the three animation types. Everything runs MUCH faster with them off.
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Go into developer options and disable the three animation types. Everything runs MUCH faster with them off.
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I have, and while it does suppress animations, it actually feels less polished. And anyway, it does not resolve the UI lag which is really visible when using th app switcher. It's dropping below like 10fps. As if some gfx acceleration was disabled or the phone was completely overwhelmed
Anyone found a fix? I experience the lag every once in a while, though it's prevalent enough to be annoying.
I am having this literally every time i use the alt-tab like feature. Oneplus managed to **** up the one thing (butter smooth) Google has been bragging about for several versions ???
A simple fix would be toh format device once, as I have clean flashed and I don't face any lags
Dissable ram boost in system settings
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Dissable ram boost in system settings
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I'm having random lag too. I'l try to disable RAM boost and is if it helps.
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Dissable ram boost in system settings
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doesn't change a thing. (and am wondering it would. This feature is supposed to make smoothness (even) better, not worse)
Turn off auto brightness .. maybe it can help
I have been reading up on the A10 stable release posts and I saw a lot of people mentioning the issue that you are talking about here.
Many of them suggested a full format. So basically setting up your device as a new device.
I cannot confirm if this works for everyone but a lot of people are saying that after a fresh install they are not facing any issues.
All of the points mentioned above are just what I read from xda and op forum posts. I personally have not made the switch yet and probably wont be doing so soon.
Hey guys. I encountered the same problem on my Nokia 9. Not quite sure why this error doesn't get noticed by more people.
I think I fixed it for me though.
In my case it seemed that the OLED always on screen (which shows notifications and the time) was the problem in my case. It would always show that there are notifications even if there weren't any and that started adding up. So while the rest of my phone ran buttery smooth, the notification bar and lockscreen began looking like a Diashow. 2-5 fps sometimes. What I think is happening is that all these notifications are buggy and the always on screen can't get rid of them.
So my fix was turning that off and then restarting my phone. Since that everything runs smooth again.
If there is another thread I should post this to please tell me but I only found this one.
Hope it helped.
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Hey guys. I encountered the same problem on my Nokia 9. Not quite sure why this error doesn't get noticed by more people.
I think I fixed it for me though.
In my case it seemed that the OLED always on screen (which shows notifications and the time) was the problem in my case. It would always show that there are notifications even if there weren't any and that started adding up. So while the rest of my phone ran buttery smooth, the notification bar and lockscreen began looking like a Diashow. 2-5 fps sometimes. What I think is happening is that all these notifications are buggy and the always on screen can't get rid of them.
So my fix was turning that off and then restarting my phone. Since that everything runs smooth again.
If there is another thread I should post this to please tell me but I only found this one.
Hope it helped.
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I think the issue is just : it's a ****show of awful coding, optimisation and non-existent testing. If manufacturers' programmers put in half the effort debugging their software we as "powerusers" at xda/reddit/... put twisting our brains in and out trying find correlating explanations and workarounds as to why we get UI lags or other absurd bugs (like 5GHz wifi not working anymore) on the 10th ****ing iteration of Android, we wouldn't have all of this. It all boils down to the general idea that because it is consumer grade product, quality check is just a non-subject. Apparent quality is just enough at product launch, and further updates (if they do get round to releasing them) can brake everything without manufacturers being held accountable.
The update showed up on my phone on the 25th, but, I'm NOT updating. 9 is too damn stable for me, & I don't see any "features" in 10 that will benefit me.
After reading all this i am not going to update to 10. Yet happy with 9.17.
Tmob unbranded dual sim op6t.
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I have the OnePlus 6, and have similar issues, that include swapping apps being slow, but not just the swapping of apps, any app that has typing in it, seems to DIE when I start typing. Maybe this is a google keyboard issue or something? I notice the issue most in the Microsoft Teams mobile app. It also tends to only happen when at least 2 apps are open, if it's on it's own, it seems to do fine.
This might just be coincidence but I went into dev settings and turned on "strict mode" and now I can't get it to lag like it previously did.
I just looked at my running services (dev options > running services) and saw that my Bluetooth was using 2.2GB of ram, and youtube was 1.7GB of that. I toggled bluetooth off, then back on and it reset this. I have not modified the strict mode setting above... still have not had any lag, will update this thread if I do get more lag.
MightySashiman said:
I think the issue is just : it's a ****show of awful coding, optimisation and non-existent testing. If manufacturers' programmers put in half the effort debugging their software we as "powerusers" at xda/reddit/... put twisting our brains in and out trying find correlating explanations and workarounds as to why we get UI lags or other absurd bugs (like 5GHz wifi not working anymore) on the 10th ****ing iteration of Android, we wouldn't have all of this. It all boils down to the general idea that because it is consumer grade product, quality check is just a non-subject. Apparent quality is just enough at product launch, and further updates (if they do get round to releasing them) can brake everything without manufacturers being held accountable.
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Lagging issue I've seen many reporting in xda on the stock rom OOS 10.3.0. But 5GHz is working as expected. I can confirm it because I'm using 5GHz WiFI now and then
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I have the OnePlus 6, and have similar issues, that include swapping apps being slow, but not just the swapping of apps, any app that has typing in it, seems to DIE when I start typing. Maybe this is a google keyboard issue or something? I notice the issue most in the Microsoft Teams mobile app. It also tends to only happen when at least 2 apps are open, if it's on it's own, it seems to do fine.
This might just be coincidence but I went into dev settings and turned on "strict mode" and now I can't get it to lag like it previously did.
I just looked at my running services (dev options > running services) and saw that my Bluetooth was using 2.2GB of ram, and youtube was 1.7GB of that. I toggled bluetooth off, then back on and it reset this. I have not modified the strict mode setting above... still have not had any lag, will update this thread if I do get more lag.
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After a night/day of normal testing with this, where I would normally have issues, I have not had and of the lag I mentioned above. This seems to have fixed some things. So, I would suggest that you first check to see what running processes are using all the ram, and then turn on strict mode in dev settings, if that doesn't solve your issues. I also have Ram Boost option turned off.
I experience the FPS drop quite often after the update. It's especially noticable when scrolling pages, switching between apps, pulling down the upper panel. The slowness seems to disappear temporarily after closing all apps. But I can't say that some particular app causes the lag.
UPD: A simple test to recreate the problem. I push the square button to switch between apps. Start swiping finger left-right and watch the animation smoothness. After 5-10 seconds comes the wave of low FPS, which lasts for a couple of seconds. Then the process repeats. The slowness doesn't seem to depend on some exact apps that are open.
UPD2: Well, I've just found out that the problem isn't constant throughout the day. There must be some connection to applications running in the background or something like this.