Mobile Data on/off toggle is missing in the quick toggles when we pull down the statusbar. I want it back. Anyways to do that?
+1 This for sure. I pre-ordered my S7 Edge and I love this phone, but what blew me away was when I noticed this right off the bat after walking out of the AT&T store. I tried to turn off my data to save on my plan unless I absolutely needed it, and the toggle is nowhere to be found. I switched from a Galaxy S4 Active SHV-E470S and the toggle was always there even after the OTA update. This phone is brand new. WTF Samsung?
One thing I did notice is that the "Usage Manager" app that is pre-installed from AT&T has a data toggle built into it that turns off the data, but it seems more like a modified application to work with the phone rather than a system toggle that could be linked somewhere. Very odd.
Anyone with an answer or any ideas on this, your help is tremendously appreciated!
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Here's a screenshot of the AT&T Usage Manager app I mentioned earlier, not sure it will be of much help but we have to start somewhere.
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That's weird, I have my data toggle switch right here. Been there since I got the phone.
http://imgur.com/08wb0xl
Same here no mobile data toggle option. Also with my s6 before, i tried the Quick Panel Restore app on galaxy app store, and it works. But i couldn't fine it anymore.
@sindre2104 what is your carrier? And when you click the edit option in the toggles panel, does it give you the option to add or remove that toggle? That's very odd, half of us seem to have no toggle while you and likely a few others do have it. So the S7 Edge does have the data toggle ability.
The question now is, how do the rest of us without that toggle enable it?
AT&T removed it, it's not Samsung's fault.
I have an AT&T S7 Edge, no mobile data toggle. I've tried the quick toggle restore, and the quick toggle manager. I don't believe they work on Android M.
That's strange. Well, I guess for the time being everyone on AT&T will have to stick with the "Usage Manager" app to be able to somewhat quickly toggle mobile data, without digging in the settings app. Talk about an inconvenient change, I haven't the slightest idea why they thought it would be a good idea to remove it.
Who knows though, maybe there will be an update or patch for it soon, or a compatible app that can fix the issue. It's such a common feature, removing it was a horrible idea.
Anyone else having this issue outside of AT&T?
No toggle on my Sprint phone either.
So it seems to be mainly a U.S. issue, I'm guessing (though @mathrania is in India and has the same issue). @sindre2104 showed that he can use the toggle right out of the box, but his carrier is Telenor from Norway.
I'm also noticing a lot of subtle but noticeable differences in each device screenshot presented, for instance my device says "flashlight" rather than "torch" in the toggle window, among other things.
I simply can't figure out why they would remove the feature in certain countries while leaving it there in others. There's no viable explanation for it
I just emailed Xperiacle Apps about this, they're the developers of the patch app released to fix a nearly identical issue that was present in the Galaxy S6 & S6 Edge models called "QuickPanel Manager". The app is $1.48 in the Play Store, linked below:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xpe.app.quicksettings.manager&hl=en
As for the official Samsung "QuickPanel Restore" app released for the S6 and S6 Edge here, I'm going to take the risk and see if it can work on the S7. If not, it's back to the drawing board from there.
thunderroid said:
AT&T removed it, it's not Samsung's fault.
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How do you know?
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@tool2269 do you have an app similar to AT&T's "Usage Manager" app installed to toggle your data as well?
Hmm, Yeah it shows up in edit too, I can move it around. http://i.imgur.com/dIwmX9E.jpg
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I have the AT&T S6 Edge, I have to use the stupid Usages Manager. My brother has the international varient, his phone has the toggle.
MrDaggs said:
So it seems to be mainly a U.S. issue, I'm guessing (though @mathrania is in India and has the same issue). @sindre2104 showed that he can use the toggle right out of the box, but his carrier is Telenor from Norway.
I'm also noticing a lot of subtle but noticeable differences in each device screenshot presented, for instance my device says "flashlight" rather than "torch" in the toggle window, among other things.
I simply can't figure out why they would remove the feature in certain countries while leaving it there in others. There's no viable explanation for it
How do you know?
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@tool2269 do you have an app similar to AT&T's "Usage Manager" app installed to toggle your data as well?
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No usage app. I have to go to settings/data usage/ to turn off mobile data.
EDIT: I do have a similar app under Settings/Smart manager. That shows battery, storage, and ram usage.
Downloaded the official QuickPanel Restore APK file from the XDA thread and installed it. Lookout registered it as "riskware" so I had to temporarily disable security and unknown sources before the install. It looks nothing like it does on the S6 and S6 Edge, it was just a plain button in the middle of the screen. When tapped it brought up a toast notification that read "no toggles to restore". I checked my toggle window and nothing changed. Seems like we'll have to dig deeper on this one.
Hopefully Samsung releases a similar app for the S7 and S7 Edge to patch the removal of this and other toggles. I'm out of ideas for the moment.
It seems that both the S6 and S7 international versions have the data toggles enabled out of the box. Maybe the software really is engineered this way for the carrier-specific models alone, though I don't know why. I'll post back if I find out anything new, but it's starting to look like they designed it this way intentionally.
I've got the toggle on exynos version purchased direct from Samsung.
Sneaky move is carriers have removed the option from quick settings.
I bought it from Rogers Canada... Why the hell they removed it?
Using international version. Toggle is right here
Using the Canadian S7 Edge (bought from Samsung store but simlocked to Fido) and no toggle. I hope they make an app that lets us restore it soon.
AT&T S7 Edge, no toggle like the others.
Well that's one thing verizon didnt remove
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In case you are not checking the regular S7 section. Figured I'd put this here.... In Nova Launcher... Create a new activities widget... Scroll down to the third phone choice (it has the most choices, like 95 things)... Then select "identify unsaved numbers"... That will create a shortcut.. Open it and flip the switch.
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In case you are not checking the regular S7 section. Figured I'd put this here.... In Nova Launcher... Create a new activities widget... Scroll down to the third phone choice (it has the most choices, like 95 things)... Then select "identify unsaved numbers"... That will create a shortcut.. Open it and flip the switch.
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I was just asking about this and couldn't find it anywhere. Will the setting stay enabled if i delete nova launcher afterwards?
It should. I still don't know if it actually does anything. VZW could have removed all of the framework for it.
From the other thread, the setting doesn't do anything actually for Verizon customers. Looks like they removed all the tie-ins to the actual phone portion of the Android image......lame.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/help/wasnt-galaxy-s7-s7-edge-supposed-to-t3331827
And this is why we can't have nice things....every feature has to be a paid service to Verizon....ie notice the 7 days left of my free caller ID trial and prompting for me to subscribe. Pretty lame Verizon when the OEM includes a feature by default and you make them remove it.
We need a class action suit to stop this. Verizon should not be able to do this to a phone.
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Hasherx1 said:
We need a class action suit to stop this. Verizon should not be able to do this to a phone.
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It's frustrating that they do this, but we live in a free market economy and this is how it works. There are other carriers, it's up to you whether you want to deal with VZ's tampering to get their amazing coverage...or take t-mobile's phones but deal with their crappy coverage.
The only case you'd have in a law suit is arguing that VZ didn't disclose that they limited the features.
Unfortunately I know you are right. IA have stayed with vzw for 20 yrs because of the network. I just don't like that I pay 800 bucks for a device that has features removed only because vzw wants you to use and pay for theirs. The phone should come as is with all features Samsung provides. And I should have the right to use either . I can disable their bloat ware but I can't turn on what is not there.
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Been playing with this on my s6 edge with ported s7 firmware...need to make sure have smartcallprovider.apk in system app folder and also need to make sure CSC is enabled for it - configsvcproviderforunknownnumber = whitepages,whitepages,on
I was missing the smartcallprovdier apk and it didnt show in advanced settings added with rw-r-r permissions and when i did above it appeared and enabled..I havent tested the app as yet but its on and the agreement etc appeared and also the agrrement to search local businesses in contacts app..
Note im Australia and not sure if supports Australia officially or not but the option is on and agreement agreed to
I have a feeling this works just like using Nova/Activity Launcher to find Download Booster and enable it on the S5 for Verizon... Except that didn't really work either.
It appears there's no Samsung Find My Mobile settings on my S7 edge. There's no way to control/change Remote Controls, SIM Change Alert, and Reactivation Lock. I know there's alternatives out there but I actually like using this service.
On my S6 edge, they were under Settings > Lock Screen and Security > Find My Mobile.
Anybody find these settings?
Quick check of AT&T manual versus Verizon manual shows Verizon's manual makes no mention of the settings to enable this feature. AT&T'S manual does show the setting being present in the settings app security settings.
Samsung's "Find my mobile" web portal has a help feature describing how to tell if your device can be used with Find my mobile.
The Verizon variant truly does seem to lack support for it, since the options for enabling it are not found where Samsung's help feature says they will be on feature-capable devices.
You can go third party like Cerebrus or use Google's Android Device Manager to replicate some, but not all, of this feature's capabilities.
I'm sure no one will be surprised to learn that Verizon sells a premium version of their pre-installed basic VZ Protect feature that includes device location for a monthly fee.
I simply cannot believe the degree to which Samsung has agreed to cripple this flagship device's features to meet this carrier's demands. Were I the Samsung executive that handled these arrangements, I would have told Verizon they would receive no accommodations for device configuration that differed from any other American carrier and let them decide if they wanted to be the only major carrier unable to offer the device to their customers.
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I confirmed though Samsung chat that VZW disabled the feature. Chat rep suggested I contact my carrier to have the feature enabled.
jeff_roey said:
I confirmed though Samsung chat that VZW disabled the feature. Chat rep suggested I contact my carrier to have the feature enabled.
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It's disabled on mine too. I'm on Sprint.
https://www.google.com/android/devicemanager?u=0
I went to Android Device Manager and my s7 Edge was there without me having to have done anything - I could locate it and remote ring/wipe it.
This is one thing I wish was on the phone - iPhones you cant reactivate without an iCloud password even if you wipe it. This needs to exist through Google or Samsung.
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This is one thing I wish was on the phone - iPhones you cant reactivate without an iCloud password even if you wipe it. This needs to exist through Google or Samsung.
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Once you set up your Google account you can't use the phone without the account info after wiping. Well unless you use one of the hacks, but they get squashed as Google releases new versions.
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Once you set up your Google account you can't use the phone without the account info after wiping. Well unless you use one of the hacks, but they get squashed as Google releases new versions.
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I have two accounts on my phone though. Which one is it going to lock me into? How do I know if its working without formatting my phone? Is there a certain app I need?
Thanks.
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I have two accounts on my phone though. Which one is it going to lock me into? How do I know if its working without formatting my phone? Is there a certain app I need?
Thanks.
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What I found.
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00042882/997379756/
Only thing I see is it says use find my mobile to check if FRP is active. Without it I'm not sure how to check.
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What I found.
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00042882/997379756/
Only thing I see is it says use find my mobile to check if FRP is active. Without it I'm not sure how to check.
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So I guess it is just kinda there... only way to test it is to try to factory reset your phone without booting it.
Dang All I want to do is change my Sammy password and instructions TELL me to deactivate reactivation lock. Good thing these forums are here. Thought I was going nuts. Again. TY (S7):victory:
Galaxy labs
WiFi Sharing
White pages
Find My Mobile
Samsung Browser
Anyone I missed? It's also worth noting that all other us carriers are on PB6 firmware while we are stuck on PB1 (exynos is on PB4).
Is there any way that anyone has found to enable the WiFi Sharing option? Is there a system flag that can be set or anything? Some hidden menu option? Any other thoughts????
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Is there any way that anyone has found to enable the WiFi Sharing option? Is there a system flag that can be set or anything? Some hidden menu option? Any other thoughts????
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Nothing I can find. It's likely gutted like the other features.
I do not have Enhanced Messaging as an option under my Messages settings at all. Is it there for you? It's been driving me crazy for hours trying to figure out how to get it to show up but it may just not be possible yet. My friend on Sprint has the option there but we compared versions of the app and he has 2.0.98 while I have 2.0.93. Maybe that's it?
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I do not have Enhanced Messaging as an option under my Messages settings at all. Is it there for you? It's been driving me crazy for hours trying to figure out how to get it to show up but it may just not be possible yet. My friend on Sprint has the option there but we compared versions of the app and he has 2.0.98 while I have 2.0.93. Maybe that's it?
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What does enhanced messaging do? I don't have it but I can request a delivery report. Is that the same thing?
Not sure if this is just true for Verizon's variant or if it affects all S7 models, but my device has the old KitKat-style persistent notification whenever there is an active VPN connection, which was something that got removed from AOSP with Lollipop. An unpleasant visitor from the past, for sure.
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Any idea in the enhanced messging for verizon yet because i cant find it
I use two gig based apps to make some extra $$$: EasyShift and GigWalk. Since the lastest VZW update this past weekend, I get a force close when trying to launch the EasyShift app. The error message is "The 'Allow mock locations' develops setting must be disabled for this application to work" I have spoken with Verizon tech support Tier 2, Google Tech Support and Samsung Premiere Tech support - all with no helpful fixes. I have never rooted my phone before and would prefer to leave it stock. The developer settings don't have the simple on/off feature as I have noticed researching on the internet. If anyone can help I really would appreciate it. I am running a Verizon S7. These apps are a great way to pick up some extra money and I sure could use it.
Thanks!
Have you tried selecting "no apps" for mock location setting, and if that has no effect have you tried turning off all developer options using the slider at the very top of the menu? I suppose if that works you can always turn it back on as needed.
Thanks Storm. I have tried choosing No Apps and it had no effect. Also I turned off the developer setting all together and again no effect. It still force closes with the error message. Any other suggestions?
Factory reset?
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Tried that one already. No go!
This is a really weird problem. I signed up and they both work flawlessly for me. I had never heard of these and can take advantage of them due to traveling all over the US. Thanks I hope you get it to work soon.
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Jedi,
Do you have a Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7? Also did you update your phone with the latest update from less than two ago? I agree it worked prior to the update.
Yes and yes.
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I also have a galaxy s7 for t-mobile and it started doing the same thing about 2 weeks ago. Again, they were working before but now and I tried the same thingsize with reset and all.
Any update? I'm having this issue as well.
I have this issue on the Carl's Jr. app. It just happened all of the sudden. The only changes I am aware of are two Security Certificate updates recently.
by my job im required to clock in on an app on my phone after doing the update (I have an s5 now running on the latest android version) it wont allow me because of this mock location. As everyone else I went to developer options and of course now it doesn't have the easy option to turn on or off so still wont allow me to clock in. Does anyone have any updates?
I am on the T-Mobile variant, but this is the only link that I found regarding this issue, I also am dealing with not being able to disable the mock locations. has anyone else been able to figure out what is up with this? thanks in advance for any help.
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Update?
I just installed the Carl's Jr app on my 935P running the U-API3 firmware and get the "disable mock locations" message. I have selected no mock location app.
Has anyone found a fix for this yet?
I've always been curious what this mock locations setting was for or what it does... I assume it spoofs your location???
Fixes?
So is there a fix for this issue? I can't do anything with my Gigwalk app!
Same exact issue here. Have you tried to talk to gigawalk yet?
I am having this issue as well on my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7 (7.0). Curiously, I have both GigWalk and EasyShift app on my phone currently. I have never had an issue with EasyShift. It works flawlessly. However, I get the warning and force close with GigWalk.
I actually had 5 jobs to do last night, and couldn't complete any of them. I had an old phone with me (S5, 5.0) and tried to do them on that one using wifi only, but the app wouldn't use that internet connection for some reason. The two jobs I was able to complete, I just uploaded via my work wifi this morning - no problems.
I'm still having this problem on my Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Verizon. I tried disabling mock locations via adb shell. It didn't work still. Anyone?
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I'm still having this problem on my Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Verizon. I tried disabling mock locations via adb shell. It didn't work still. Anyone?
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It's actually some apps check the settings this way:
Code:
// In marshmallow this will always return true
isMockLocation = !android.provider.Settings.Secure.getString(context.getContentResolver(), Settings.Secure.ALLOW_MOCK_LOCATION).equals("0")
It should have been this way:
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if(Build.VERSION.SDK_INT >= Build.VERSION_CODES.M) {
AppOpsManager opsManager = (AppOpsManager) context.getSystemService(Context.APP_OPS_SERVICE);
isMockLocation = (opsManager.checkOp(AppOpsManager.OPSTR_MOCK_LOCATION, android.os.Process.myUid(), BuildConfig.APPLICATION_ID)== AppOpsManager.MODE_ALLOWED);
} else {
// In marshmallow this will always return true
isMockLocation = !android.provider.Settings.Secure.getString(context.getContentResolver(), Settings.Secure.ALLOW_MOCK_LOCATION).equals("0");
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A few hours ago I received a notification on my Sprint LG V20 that an app was updated. Upon closer inspection I found that it was actually a new app installed through the LG Update service center or "LGinstallservice" i.e the one that updates LG's stock proprietary apps like Qmemo and their Clock app and so forth.
The app is called DrAPN_N and it installed itself as a system app. It is currently and has been running in the background process of my phone since that time.
A quick Google search only yielded a Reddit thread with a few more confused LG users with a couple different LG devices that had received the same app on their device (a few posts from today and some a few days back).
My guess (and big emphasis on the word guess) is that it's some sort of hotfix that updates the apn info that sprint has them lock down and isnt editable to a user without modifications, hence the name "Dr. APN". If that's the case I'd be curious what it changes and why. I also just remembered Sprint was doing some spectrum modifications on their old 2g network (or something like that) and realize now that it could have something to do with Sprints repurposing to increase coverage in rural areas. I forget what they are calling that rollout but that along with the name kinda equals my best guess on all of this as of now.
Screenshot below. Thanx for any input or info.
My stock unrooted TMobile variant just got that yesterday. I was wondering what it was.
I remember seeing DRapn. So i guess it's not just a Sprint thingy.
I got this app yesterday. I'm using a sprint v20, but not on sprint or in America. Previously I had been using Textra to use custom APN settings to get MMS working, and it had been fine. But upon installation of this app, those custom changes were no longer applied. Reapplying them has no effect, and now, though sms and call still functions, MMS does not. If this app represents an attempt to lock down custom APN usage, that would be distressing but would explain my failure to get MMS working now despite my efforts. I'm still looking for (an unrooted) solution to uninstall or work around this app. (I would root but am on the latest firmware and don't believe it's rootable right now, though I haven't checked in a while.)
This app just installed on my Sprint LG G5 about an hour ago and I called LG support about it. They didn't have an answer for me, but they said they would call me back when they had an answer. I'll post anything I find out here.
The app installed on my phone today. LG V20
If someone can post the apk, it could probably be disassembled to see what it does... Otherwise everyone's making guesses
DrAPN_N
It just intalled itsself on my rooted sprint v20, link to apk:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-R7ZSHt-19Bl2XJvV9sANjWsEdat8rb-/view?usp=drivesdk
Uninstalling it and disabling the LG service that installed it now. :good:
I thought I would add that (as this app was making it impossible for my APN settings to be retained longer than a few minutes on my sprint lg V20 being used outside USA) I set about to disable it. The disable button was greyed out so I denied it permissions to change system settings and deleted its cache. To my suprise it still had the effect of undoing my APN settings. So I disabled it via ADB, and that did the trick. Been using the phone for 24 hours since and noticed no issues.
ADB?
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I thought I would add that (as this app was making it impossible for my APN settings to be retained longer than a few minutes on my sprint lg V20 being used outside USA) I set about to disable it. The disable button was greyed out so I denied it permissions to change system settings and deleted its cache. To my suprise it still had the effect of undoing my APN settings. So I disabled it via ADB, and that did the trick. Been using the phone for 24 hours since and noticed no issues.
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Can you please explain how you did the process through ADB? I'm in need of doing this myself...thanks
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Can you please explain how you did the process through ADB? I'm in need of doing this myself...thanks
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This link explains the process.
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
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I thought I would add that (as this app was making it impossible for my APN settings to be retained longer than a few minutes on my sprint lg V20 being used outside USA)
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according to LG , this app is supposed to determine and program APN automatically based on inserted SIM.
Would be nice if it had a GUI to disable itself. Do you have non-Sprint APN? What happens to your APN settings? do they reset back to sprint?
Does new APN gets unselected? deleted?
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according to LG , this app is supposed to determine and program APN automatically based on inserted SIM.
Would be nice if it had a GUI to disable itself. Do you have non-Sprint APN? What happens to your APN settings? do they reset back to sprint?
Does new APN gets unselected? deleted?
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Thanks for that information.
I do have a non Sprint APN. I'm using a Sprint phone outside USA. I had had to set my phone to expect an AT&T connection, in a secret dialer menu, to get it fully working. (I described the process above.) I expect my weird set up did something Drapn was not expecting, causing it to mess up the issue it was meant to address.
Forgive this lengthy reply, but I'll leave it in case others have the same problem. Before this Drapn issue, just editing APN in regular stock android settings, while it allowed most data to work, and sms, would not allow MMS or certain kinds of messaging, like WhatsApp or Facebook Messenger. I have no idea why, though I did find other users online with the same problem using sprint phones outside America. Eventually I fixed the problem by marking the phone AT&T in the secret dialer menu, as described in my previous post in this thread. At that point the APN settings took hold. Until Drapn was installed, which perhaps got confused between the Sprint/AT&T/My Carrier settings. I could input APN settings into the stock android system settings, and sometimes it would work initially (other times, if I edited too many fields, the entry would vanish after I saved it) but always it would stop working after a few minutes or at least inside an hour. Had I factory reset the phone, and attempted my modifications from scratch with Drapn installed, perhaps it would have worked fine. Then again perhaps the necessary changes would have been impossible to implement.
I am not sure what APN settings Drapn was reverting me to. My custom entry would either remain but stop functioning, or else be deleted, and also stop functuoning. All I know is that nothing worked until I disabled Drapn with ADB, having deleted its cache and revoked its permissions.
Because I was using a phone modified within a secret dialer menu, I don't figure I can get 100% mad at LG for pushing an app that borked my phone. You play with fire you get burned, etc. Then again, pushing an app with no transparency as to what it does, and no freedom to disable it, is certainly not the best. I suppose now I have to worry if accepting the Oreo update will reintroduce this issue and leave my phone inoperable outside the USA.
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Because I was using a phone modified within a secret dialer menu, I don't figure I can get 100% mad at LG for pushing an app that borked my phone. You play with fire you get burned, etc. Then again, pushing an app with no transparency as to what it does, and no freedom to disable it, is certainly not the best. I suppose now I have to worry if accepting the Oreo update will reintroduce this issue and leave my phone inoperable outside the USA.
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check out the LG V30 threads. this is exactly what happened there. Unlocked by sprint phones became locked again after Oreo update. And if you are no longer on Sprint network you are stuck. So yes, you have all the reasons to worry.
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check out the LG V30 threads. this is exactly what happened there. Unlocked by sprint phones became locked again after Oreo update. And if you are no longer on Sprint network you are stuck. So yes, you have all the reasons to worry.
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Yikes. Thanks for that. Just read through a big thread, what a mess. Looking like I'll likely be trapped on Nougat. Much appreciated, at least I didn't find out the hard way.