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Low on space ERROR!

Hi,
I guess the subject says it all.
To clarify, I've just got my new Note and I currently have Acer A100. I took the titanium apps backup folder and transfered it to the Note and did a titanium backup restore.
I've successfully restored 316 apps, but still have 84 apps left.
My System Storage says: 1.8gb used - 184mb free
USB Storage from Storage says: 11.07gb total space - 8.37gb available space.
I couldn't complete the titanium backup restore and have to turn the phone off/on in order to stop the FROZEN apps restore process on the 318th app out of 464ish.
Moreover, I can't install anything from the Market and I get unable to install for insufficient storage error.
Any ideas, help? And please don't say I've to install an external SD card since I'm not planning at the moment. My concern now: why this is happening?
BTW, I don't have Facebook app installed so I can clear the cache, and I already did Market clear cache, but no luck.
Thanks!

No one????
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Move some apps to SD.

i had this issue when i first started loading my apps on the note. started getting low memory alerts after about 200mb was left then stopped loading any app when about 190mb was left. what the f*** my old htc desire had 147mb internal memory available for apps and would load apps till about 5mb was left on initial firmware then with updated firmware would allow apps to load only till about 15mb was left on internal memory.
anyway even i too had about 10gb left on the internal storage and still would get the low memory alerts. and just could not move apps to internal sd card with apps2sd pro or even the stock apps tool for moving apps to internal memory. my 32gb card was almost full so was stuffed till i deleted some stuff on card and then could move a bit to external card.
but somehow later, when installing / uninstalling apps it seems to have now moved some to internal sd storage dont know how it happened and i have more meroy on my external card now.
but phone does crash with freezing and only sorts itself out when card removed. happened a few days ago and again last night. works perfect when no sd card. card is sansidk 32gb and works fine on my htc desire. but the folder structure is a bit different from my htc desire and dont know if my htc desire folder structure being present on my card is causing issues and freezing and crashes. if not sorted then will put a new card and copy over stuff that i need.

MartijnMM said:
Move some apps to SD.
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As I said earlier, I don't want to insert an external SD card at the moment. I want to use it like any other phone/tablet that has more than 3/4 of the storage available... BUT, thanks for the suggestion!

bubblesmoney said:
i had this issue when i first started loading my apps on the note. started getting low memory alerts after about 200mb was left then stopped loading any app when about 190mb was left. what the f*** my old htc desire had 147mb internal memory available for apps and would load apps till about 5mb was left on initial firmware then with updated firmware would allow apps to load only till about 15mb was left on internal memory.
anyway even i too had about 10gb left on the internal storage and still would get the low memory alerts. and just could not move apps to internal sd card with apps2sd pro or even the stock apps tool for moving apps to internal memory. my 32gb card was almost full so was stuffed till i deleted some stuff on card and then could move a bit to external card.
but somehow later, when installing / uninstalling apps it seems to have now moved some to internal sd storage dont know how it happened and i have more meroy on my external card now.
but phone does crash with freezing and only sorts itself out when card removed. happened a few days ago and again last night. works perfect when no sd card. card is sansidk 32gb and works fine on my htc desire. but the folder structure is a bit different from my htc desire and dont know if my htc desire folder structure being present on my card is causing issues and freezing and crashes. if not sorted then will put a new card and copy over stuff that i need.
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I had the same exact thing!!!!!!!!!!!!
Around 190mb, my phone started to give that error.
So, I either had to install/uninstall apps and see if it moved them to internal storage, or I have to have an external SD card????
I just ordered a class 10 16gb sd card from AmazonBasics and I'm waiting for it. My problem is that I'm overseas and I want to use the phone fully without an SD card!!!!!!!!!!!

how big are the backups and what are you restoring? if you have loads of sms/mms etc then it will take up the internal space
the usb space you can ignore as that isnt part of the data space provided

The backup was 1.8gb. But I was restoring only the apps nothing else from titanium backup...
Is there away I can use the USB storage as internal storage for apps? And I mean not using an external SD card at ALL...???

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I tried doing that, but it tells me that I need to insert an SD card!!!!

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Bigmille said:
You have misunderstood move to SD option.
Gingerbread storage operate a bit different from Honeycomb.
The 16GB onboard storage in the Note is divided into two visible partitions, 2GB for storage apps and 11GB as SD card.
The move to SD option simply move the apps from the 2GB partition to the 11 GB partition, no external micro SD card is needed.
Just download App2SD and see which apps can be move to the 11GB partition to free up space for install extra apps.
Once Note get Ice Cream Sandwich update, hopefully we will not have this problem.
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no your method didnt work for me even though i had 10gb free on usb internal memory and 190mb free on partition reserved for apps. app2sdmove pro and stock application manager would refuse to move any app to usb 11gb memory. my 32gb sd card was full so couldnt move there either. only after i deleted some data and made space on my external 32gb card could i move apps withh app2sd pro or the stock app manager.
but curiously later (2w later) somehow (i dont know) now about 155 apps seem to have moved themselves to internal memory (the 11gb usb memory present internally on the phone and now i have 10gb used up on the internal memory and similar amount free on my card. god knows how that happened.
now as my phone was crashing again last night have had to remove sd card from phone and phone working fine. will see whether to copy data to lapton and reformat the card in phone and then transfer back data or whether to use a new card.
but the app move to sd feature is certainly buggy with there being different areas to move the app to. now some of my apps are on internal 1.9gb memory, some are on my 11gb internal memory and some are on sd card. i have no contrl over which app goes where irrespective of whether i use stock app manager or app2sd pro.
any pointers anyone, how to force all apps to move to internal 11gb memory and not to external sd card?

Thanks for the clarification.
There must be something (some sort of process or an action) triggered the apps transfer to the internal storage!
Don't you think? Can't you think of anything that you've installed or did that made that happen?
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m2b999 said:
Thanks for the clarification.
There must be something (some sort of process or an action) triggered the apps transfer to the internal storage!
Don't you think? Can't you think of anything that you've installed or did that made that happen?
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dont know but the crashing usually starts at night uk time and always hangs when system media scanner is perpetually scanning then device crashes. cant remember what apps i uninstalled but most were reinstalled and seemed to work fine a few days. same phone has been phone all day today but the sd card has been removed since last night. am busy work wise till tomorrow so havent had the time to sort out the sd card. will see over the next few days.
regarding the apps moving to internal sd card. i just deleted some apps then reinstalled them then used the regular apps2sd pro to move to sd card, seems t work sometimes, but not at other times. same goes for the app settings menu. for example if i now without sd card in phone try the sd card move option, it does not move apps to internal 11mb but rather i get pop up saying no sd card. but dont know how the 155apps are already on the same 11gb on internal memory, but many are still on the 1.9gb space of partitioned internal memory and can be moved.
i already have google earth installed from the market and moved it to sd card. but thought that some bits of it remain on internal memory. but doesnt look like it. now without sd card if i visit market then google earth on market gives install option again inspite of having it already on my sd card and when i press instal it installs again onto 1.9gb of internal memory and when i try apps 2 sd option then i get pop up saying no sd card and doesnt move it to the 11gb internal memory.
dont know how to sort this issue. will try to figure it out over the next few days but hoping someone else can give some pointers how to move apps to 11gb internal memory.
out of the 303 app icons present on my noteapp screen (including all the ones that came with the phone) 128 are on external sd card, 155 are on internal 11gb card. dont know how some went to internal sd card and some went to external sd card. hope someone can help out to move all of them to internal 11gb memory.

Bigmille said:
The move to SD option simply move the apps from the 2GB partition to the 11 GB partition, no external micro SD card is needed.
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This is not correct.
Apps to SD moves files from internal memory to /sdcard/external_sd/Apps2D.
This is the external SD card normally. (it's technically possible to mess with the device links to swap /sdcard and /external_sd though).
Data in /sdcard comes from applications which download their own data.
I.e. you run them and they say 'I need to download a bunch of data!'. For example, Asphalt 6. That data can't be shifted out and there is a definite possiblity of filling up your 10 gig partition with stuff like this.
This is one of the bigger faults of the Note, IMHO.
- Frank

That's what I thought...
It's one of Note's drawbacks in terms of usage of internal storage and there's no workaround as far as I know.
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ChodTheWacko said:
This is not correct.
Apps to SD moves files from internal memory to /sdcard/external_sd/Apps2D.
This is the external SD card normally. (it's technically possible to mess with the device links to swap /sdcard and /external_sd though).
Data in /sdcard comes from applications which download their own data.
I.e. you run them and they say 'I need to download a bunch of data!'. For example, Asphalt 6. That data can't be shifted out and there is a definite possiblity of filling up your 10 gig partition with stuff like this.
This is one of the bigger faults of the Note, IMHO.
- Frank
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My bad, good to know.
I don't seems to find /sdcard/external_sd/Apps2D path, or Apps2D folder using both My Files and Root Explorer apps, must be hidden.

Bigmille said:
My bad, good to know.
I don't seems to find /sdcard/external_sd/Apps2D path, or Apps2D folder using both My Files and Root Explorer apps, must be hidden.
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Whoa - you are right... Me neither. I got the location of Apps2D from the diskusage app. I wonder if it's a diskusage bug.

Adoptable Storage Question

I was so excited for this feature, to be able to essentially grow the internal storage. However, now that I am using it, I am still running out of internal storage, and have to tell it to move apps to external storage. I could do that in Lolipop without adoptable storage. So what is the benefit?

You can move any app to adaptable storage now, not just some of them.

Not true, cant move google play music. Cant move system apps. Maybe you can move more, but still a total hassle. This is nothing like having larger internal storage, which is what was said before this came out.

I wouldn't really qualify it as a benefit but the adopted SD card is specifically formatted for your device whereas in LP the SD card maintained its original formatting. That's the difference. Perhaps there's some benefit in the new format system that I don't know about.

Do you prefer Adopted Storage (MM) or Portable Storage formats?

MM brought the adopted internal storage option for SD cards, which combines your SD space with your device space. It still has a few bugs with certain apps but for the most part is pretty fluid. The traditional portable storage works as usually expected but also encounters some bugs in MM.
Personally I'm having a hard time choosing between the two and some people seem to dislike the adopted storage.
Which do you use and which do you prefer?

Now that twrp works adopted is almost mandatory for 16gb model.

I found Adoptable Storage poorly thought out and implemented. Google should've pushed devs to support it. It doesn't combine storage either. There are just two internal drives (one embedded, one SD).
Moving apps to the SD card now takes quite a few more steps. There's no overview of apps able to move or installed on the SD card, and no way to multi-select apps for moving.
On top of that, system apps completely ignore the adopted storage drive and you can't select what drive to store files on. It's supposed to be automatic, but it's not. Once you fill the eMMC, apps that don't support SD cards will start to fail as they can't store data.

Portable storage, I keep my music, movies, pictures, ROMs, and nandroids on my microsd card. Every once in a while I pop out the card and either move new media to it or move backups from my PC. I also sometimes wipe internal and accidentally wipe my roms and flashable zips, so in that case I pop out the memory card put it in my PC and download whatever I need from there and pop it back in. The option to manage media from a PC far outweighs having extra (half-baked) internal storage for me.

I haven't tried using adoptable storage yet with updated TWRP, but I find keeping the SD card as portable is more convenient if you're into flashing custom ROMs every few weeks/months. You can keep all your backups and other files on it and wipe everything else including the internal storage during clean flashes. I might look to see how well adoptable storage works now later.

nv2k said:
I haven't tried using adoptable storage yet with updated TWRP, but I find keeping the SD card as portable is more convenient if you're into flashing custom ROMs every few weeks/months. You can keep all your backups and other files on it and wipe everything else including the internal storage during clean flashes. I might look to see how well adoptable storage works now later.
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Say you don't flash ROMs very often, and usually have backups uploaded to the cloud. I'd there a dire need for a portal SD? Also, if adopted storage is used and you flash a ROM, does that essentially wipe all the apps/data?

In your case, portable storage wouldn't be necessary. As I haven't tested it, I can't say for sure how flashing new roms would work with adoptable storage. My guess is that you would only wipe the system if you want to keep your data, but I'd do some research before going through with that.

They both suck with the 16GB model which I stupidly bought because I figured I could throw a 64GB SD card in it and be good. Unfortunately it doesn't work as advertised and I didn't find out the SD card is basically useless until after Best Buy's 2 week return window was up.
First I tried setting it up as portable. I could set Google Music to cache and download music to the SD card, but when I went to install Star Wars KOTR I was out of space. So then I formatted it as internal. It doesn't really work as expected. I was able to install all my apps including KOTR, but then Google Play Music will only cache music to the internal storage and my device was full after downloading just a few albums.

Nothing stopping you from using a different method to store music on your device.

lafester said:
Nothing stopping you from using a different method to store music on your device.
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True, I could just download it all and copy it to the SD, but I've had issues doing that in the past. Google Play shows 2 copies of every song, one local and one cloud. Plus I subscribe to Google Play Music, there is no way to use another method to store songs that are part of the subscription that I don't own.

I've had at least one app (Geometry Dash) fail when using adopted storage. I'm using portable storage right now.
And won't adopted storage become unrecognized if you wipe /data (ex after installing a new ROM)? Seems like a pain to copy the contents of SD-Card before and after switching ROMs or restoring nandroids. I'm considering using TWRP to partition my SD-Card instead and doing a more traditional apps2sd.

Marshmallow Adoptable Storage issue

After employing the tweak to allow adoptable storage after receiving the Marshmallow update I thought I had addressed the problem of running out of space on my 16Gb internal memory device.
The configuration I chose was to split by 128Gb external SD into 64Gb adoptable and 64Gb portable. Thinking that the adoptable would be merged with the existing limited 16Gb I wouldn't have to face the nightmare of space issues whenever I install a new app. At least for a while.
Well it looks to me that the adoptable storage concept doesn't work the way I thought it would. I can move apps to adoptable storage but I could do that already when I just only had portable storage (before this exercise).
Now when I go back on all the apps that I had thought I moved to adoptable storage it now tells me it's in portable storage (external storage device) instead. I thought that's weird. So when I tried to move it from portable to adoptable it does nothing and remains in external storage device. Yet when I inspect what is in the adoptable storage it lists all the apps that I expected. This is very confusing. But what is more frustrating is that I cannot install new apps as my internal memory is almost full and Android appears to be ignoring the existence of the adoptable storage. So unless I delete apps from the internal storage I can't install any new apps which is ridiculous as only 4Gb out of 64Gb adoptable storage has been used.
Am I missing something here?

Use Apps2SD in order to do the split and to move apps. It's the only way that I was able to achieve the proper functionality for a partitioned SD card and move apps entirely on it.

randomherRro said:
Use Apps2SD in order to do the split and to move apps. It's the only way that I was able to achieve the proper functionality for a partitioned SD card and move apps entirely on it.
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Can you elaborate on this "split"?

hitesh12 said:
Can you elaborate on this "split"?
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Your responding to a post over 2 years old...
The following seems to be your best bet that, apparently, works on the Galaxy S5 Snapdragon devices with MM installed.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3460478
I can't actually endorse this since I've never used this myself but, don't be afraid to ask for some member guidance within it too.
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sd card

is it possible to unite the internal memory and the SD card?

From what I've read, if you're on Nougat, getting adaptable storage is almost impossible if you're on stock. Marshmallow and Oreo is apparently easier. Just remember, the external SD card is much slower than your internal memory, so you might actually experience slow downs depending on if/when your apps start installing themselves on the SD card instead of your internal memory.
Here is some info I've scraped on the web:
https://www.androidpit.com/how-to-format-microsd-cards-as-internal-storage
https://www.xda-developers.com/enable-adoptable-storage-for-galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge/
Just know that once that happens, you cannot turn off adaptable storage without wiping your storage, so if you ever decide to go back to keeping them separate, then you'll need to ensure you backup any important data (photos, music, app settings that do NOT backup to Google Play) before you stop using adaptable storage.