I was so excited for this feature, to be able to essentially grow the internal storage. However, now that I am using it, I am still running out of internal storage, and have to tell it to move apps to external storage. I could do that in Lolipop without adoptable storage. So what is the benefit?
You can move any app to adaptable storage now, not just some of them.
Not true, cant move google play music. Cant move system apps. Maybe you can move more, but still a total hassle. This is nothing like having larger internal storage, which is what was said before this came out.
I wouldn't really qualify it as a benefit but the adopted SD card is specifically formatted for your device whereas in LP the SD card maintained its original formatting. That's the difference. Perhaps there's some benefit in the new format system that I don't know about.
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I just found out with the new rom released (mf9) they have the option for you to move app to sd card. The funny side is when you move your app to sd, it is still setting in your internal phone memory and not to the external is card. Samsung has an internal partition mounted as sd card and moving apps to that partition, still utilizes internal space. I maybe wrong, but I really see this option pointless, if you cant push your apps to external storage.
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I just found out with the new rom released (mf9) they have the option for you to move app to sd card. The funny side is when you move your app to sd, it is still setting in your internal phone memory and not to the external is card. Samsung has an internal partition mounted as sd card and moving apps to that partition, still utilizes internal space. I maybe wrong, but I really see this option pointless, if you cant push your apps to external storage.
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I may be off base, but I liken it to shortcuts on your desktop to a file or program that is located on an external memory device. Even with the bulk of the space necessary stored externally, there is still some resources required to let the OS know where to find the rest. I do know that the few apps I have, moving them has freed up a couple hundred MB's of space on the device.
I believe it just moves the apk to external but doesn't move the data
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MM brought the adopted internal storage option for SD cards, which combines your SD space with your device space. It still has a few bugs with certain apps but for the most part is pretty fluid. The traditional portable storage works as usually expected but also encounters some bugs in MM.
Personally I'm having a hard time choosing between the two and some people seem to dislike the adopted storage.
Which do you use and which do you prefer?
Now that twrp works adopted is almost mandatory for 16gb model.
I found Adoptable Storage poorly thought out and implemented. Google should've pushed devs to support it. It doesn't combine storage either. There are just two internal drives (one embedded, one SD).
Moving apps to the SD card now takes quite a few more steps. There's no overview of apps able to move or installed on the SD card, and no way to multi-select apps for moving.
On top of that, system apps completely ignore the adopted storage drive and you can't select what drive to store files on. It's supposed to be automatic, but it's not. Once you fill the eMMC, apps that don't support SD cards will start to fail as they can't store data.
Portable storage, I keep my music, movies, pictures, ROMs, and nandroids on my microsd card. Every once in a while I pop out the card and either move new media to it or move backups from my PC. I also sometimes wipe internal and accidentally wipe my roms and flashable zips, so in that case I pop out the memory card put it in my PC and download whatever I need from there and pop it back in. The option to manage media from a PC far outweighs having extra (half-baked) internal storage for me.
I haven't tried using adoptable storage yet with updated TWRP, but I find keeping the SD card as portable is more convenient if you're into flashing custom ROMs every few weeks/months. You can keep all your backups and other files on it and wipe everything else including the internal storage during clean flashes. I might look to see how well adoptable storage works now later.
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I haven't tried using adoptable storage yet with updated TWRP, but I find keeping the SD card as portable is more convenient if you're into flashing custom ROMs every few weeks/months. You can keep all your backups and other files on it and wipe everything else including the internal storage during clean flashes. I might look to see how well adoptable storage works now later.
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Say you don't flash ROMs very often, and usually have backups uploaded to the cloud. I'd there a dire need for a portal SD? Also, if adopted storage is used and you flash a ROM, does that essentially wipe all the apps/data?
In your case, portable storage wouldn't be necessary. As I haven't tested it, I can't say for sure how flashing new roms would work with adoptable storage. My guess is that you would only wipe the system if you want to keep your data, but I'd do some research before going through with that.
They both suck with the 16GB model which I stupidly bought because I figured I could throw a 64GB SD card in it and be good. Unfortunately it doesn't work as advertised and I didn't find out the SD card is basically useless until after Best Buy's 2 week return window was up.
First I tried setting it up as portable. I could set Google Music to cache and download music to the SD card, but when I went to install Star Wars KOTR I was out of space. So then I formatted it as internal. It doesn't really work as expected. I was able to install all my apps including KOTR, but then Google Play Music will only cache music to the internal storage and my device was full after downloading just a few albums.
Nothing stopping you from using a different method to store music on your device.
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Nothing stopping you from using a different method to store music on your device.
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True, I could just download it all and copy it to the SD, but I've had issues doing that in the past. Google Play shows 2 copies of every song, one local and one cloud. Plus I subscribe to Google Play Music, there is no way to use another method to store songs that are part of the subscription that I don't own.
I've had at least one app (Geometry Dash) fail when using adopted storage. I'm using portable storage right now.
And won't adopted storage become unrecognized if you wipe /data (ex after installing a new ROM)? Seems like a pain to copy the contents of SD-Card before and after switching ROMs or restoring nandroids. I'm considering using TWRP to partition my SD-Card instead and doing a more traditional apps2sd.
So, that guy managed to re-enable Adoptable Storage on his Galaxy S7 Edge, without root, using some simple ADB shell commands
http://www.modaco.com/news/android/...e-adoptable-storage-on-your-s7-s7-edge-r1632/
Anyone willing to give it a try on his/her Xperia Z5?
Whats adoptable storage
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Whats adoptable storage
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Making your SDcard become part of your internal storage.
Bad part is no SDcard is as fast as internal flash storage so you'll slow your phone down (by how much depends on the speed of your card).
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True, but that should be our decision to make, not Sony's.
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Just found other threads on this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/general/mm-adoptable-storage-t3332591
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/general/tuto-enable-adoptable-storage-mm-t3334153
It definitely didn't used to be a problem because the internal storage with previous Sony phones was previously the same speed as my sd card , but the internal now is much faster on the Z5, just wish sony made the interface to the SD card faster, then my sd would be the same speed or faster than the internal memory and adoptable storage wouldn't be an issue.
You also lose access to your internal storage when you use 'adopted SD storage'. Android will use it to install some apps but you can't really use for pictures, videos or anything user side. Some apps, some..., will let you move between SD and internal, but they will revert to their default on app update. Also, some apps lose settings when updated if they are not on internal. Also, some apps who are SD aware become unaware of the SD card with 'adopted' and will only use internal memory.
The whole thing is a mess and not ready for prime time IMHO. I've tried it extensively on my Z3 with the concept ROM that allows this, and ended it disabling it because it was more trouble than it was worth.
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You also lose access to your internal storage when you use 'adopted SD storage'. Android will use it to install some apps but you can't really use for pictures, videos or anything user side. Some apps, some..., will let you move between SD and internal, but they will revert to their default on app update. Also, some apps lose settings when updated if they are not on internal. Also, some apps who are SD aware become unaware of the SD card with 'adopted' and will only use internal memory.
The whole thing is a mess and not ready for prime time IMHO. I've tried it extensively on my Z3 with the concept ROM that allows this, and ended it disabling it because it was more trouble than it was worth.
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Would splitting the SD card into two partitions help this?
After employing the tweak to allow adoptable storage after receiving the Marshmallow update I thought I had addressed the problem of running out of space on my 16Gb internal memory device.
The configuration I chose was to split by 128Gb external SD into 64Gb adoptable and 64Gb portable. Thinking that the adoptable would be merged with the existing limited 16Gb I wouldn't have to face the nightmare of space issues whenever I install a new app. At least for a while.
Well it looks to me that the adoptable storage concept doesn't work the way I thought it would. I can move apps to adoptable storage but I could do that already when I just only had portable storage (before this exercise).
Now when I go back on all the apps that I had thought I moved to adoptable storage it now tells me it's in portable storage (external storage device) instead. I thought that's weird. So when I tried to move it from portable to adoptable it does nothing and remains in external storage device. Yet when I inspect what is in the adoptable storage it lists all the apps that I expected. This is very confusing. But what is more frustrating is that I cannot install new apps as my internal memory is almost full and Android appears to be ignoring the existence of the adoptable storage. So unless I delete apps from the internal storage I can't install any new apps which is ridiculous as only 4Gb out of 64Gb adoptable storage has been used.
Am I missing something here?
Use Apps2SD in order to do the split and to move apps. It's the only way that I was able to achieve the proper functionality for a partitioned SD card and move apps entirely on it.
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Use Apps2SD in order to do the split and to move apps. It's the only way that I was able to achieve the proper functionality for a partitioned SD card and move apps entirely on it.
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Can you elaborate on this "split"?
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Can you elaborate on this "split"?
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Your responding to a post over 2 years old...
The following seems to be your best bet that, apparently, works on the Galaxy S5 Snapdragon devices with MM installed.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3460478
I can't actually endorse this since I've never used this myself but, don't be afraid to ask for some member guidance within it too.
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is it possible to unite the internal memory and the SD card?
From what I've read, if you're on Nougat, getting adaptable storage is almost impossible if you're on stock. Marshmallow and Oreo is apparently easier. Just remember, the external SD card is much slower than your internal memory, so you might actually experience slow downs depending on if/when your apps start installing themselves on the SD card instead of your internal memory.
Here is some info I've scraped on the web:
https://www.androidpit.com/how-to-format-microsd-cards-as-internal-storage
https://www.xda-developers.com/enable-adoptable-storage-for-galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge/
Just know that once that happens, you cannot turn off adaptable storage without wiping your storage, so if you ever decide to go back to keeping them separate, then you'll need to ensure you backup any important data (photos, music, app settings that do NOT backup to Google Play) before you stop using adaptable storage.