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During the official Samsung announcement for the SGS3 on May 3, they talked about integrating MirrorLink support into the phone. This is actually why I purchased this phone. I recently purchased a MirrorLink compatible car stereo, the Sony XAV-601BT. After several frustrating hours, a Samsung rep told me that only the Korean version supports MirrorLink. He suggested downloading an app from the Play Store called "Sh.air" by a company called M&SERVICE. It's the only thing that he knows about that would make the SGS3 compatible with MirrorLink at this time.
The problem is that the entire thing is in Korean (I think...I can't read it). It doesn't do me any good to have a Korean interface on my car dashboard. However, this means that the MirrorLink standard is software based and (probably) only requires the MHL connection in a cell phone.
Does anyone know if there are any MirrorLink compatibility apps in development? I would really like to get this working in my car. Any help or information is appreciated.
I'm using MHL with a Pioneer AppRadio 2. It's an option for you if Samsung doesn't implement MirrorLink for you.
How do you like your AppRadio 2? I was actually looking at that radio some time ago because I've generally had good luck with Pioneer. I couldn't find a lot of reviews about using it with Android, but what I found made it look like it's not very Android friendly. I've also read that it has a delay in the user interface. Can you give me some feedback about that stuff?
I'm mostly just interested in syncing my phone for navigation, phone calls, and Pandora. How does it work for that stuff with Android? Have you used Inrix Traffic with it?
I like the Sony XAV601BT because it's a solid head unit with MirrorLink capabilities. The AppRadio seems to try to be a phone interface first and head unit second.
Well, some things about the AppRadio 2.
It's definitely a phone interface first, car audio system second. Without the phone plugged in and operating it's a basic AM/FM receiver.
Android support isn't as good as iPhone support. There's less apps available and generally speaking it seems like Pioneer added the Android support as an afterthought.
Every time you connect your phone, the phone will prompt you to accept the PIN number that the radio sends it. Every time. It's highly annoying, but someone on avic411 has a tasker script that apparently has the phone auto-accept the prompt. I haven't tried it yet as my phone isn't rooted (I'm swapping it later today for the Pebble Blue that a buddy got and he doesn't want it rooted).
Inrix doesn't work on Android over the AppRadio. They haven't added support yet and Pioneer has a lockout so that you can only use apps that have been approved.
Google Navigation is another app that doesn't work, although Google Maps does. If you want full voice navigation the only app that they have available is Waze at the moment. Waze isn't bad, but I dislike the cartoonish appearance of it.
AppRadio supports Pandora Radio. If you have it, it can natively control it through the deck. Pandora's not available in Canada, so I haven't tried it.
AppRadio also has an ipod interface on the main screen. You can't get rid of it either, which is highly annoying if you're like me and don't have an iphone/ipod.
There is a very small lag in response when you use the touch screen. I believe this is because it uses Bluetooth to communicate with the phone. It's there, but not really that annoying unless you're trying to scroll using CarMediaPlayer. That said, CarMediaPlayer is a half decent app for playing media on the AppRadio. I find it's a lot faster and doesn't lag like the stock Music app on the phone.
Edit: I implied above that you need Pioneer approved apps for it to work. You can use other apps, but they won't have the ability to control them through the deck.
For my use, it sounds like the Sony unit is the better way to go. Hopefully MirrorLink gets some support, either third party or otherwise.
Thanks for the honest feedback about the AppRadio 2.
spumington,
Samsung will release its MirrorLink app in the next weeks.
The solution is software only, but just an APK. You need to modify your system in order to make it work.
And it's not related to MHL, just USB.
olluz said:
spumington,
Samsung will release its MirrorLink app in the next weeks.
The solution is software only, but just an APK. You need to modify your system in order to make it work.
And it's not related to MHL, just USB.
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Hi can i ask where you got this info from?
olluz said:
spumington,
Samsung will release its MirrorLink app in the next weeks.
The solution is software only, but just an APK. You need to modify your system in order to make it work.
And it's not related to MHL, just USB.
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Where did you get this information? I also purchased the Galaxy S3 partly because it was the only Android phone announced to support Mirrorlink.
I am in the search for the best, well best for a descent price that is probably double din card stereo with the best Android integration.
By that I mean mainly blue tooth and usb.
I know based on some of the bluetooth protocols there are quite a range of things that can be integrated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth#Bluetooth_protocol_stack)
For example pluging into USB and the deck seeing the internal memory as well as SD Card to be able to play files from it, bluetooth being able to push music to the deck as well as the deck being able to communicate with apps such as pandora to skip tracks and such from the deck.
My searches thus far have lead to me this model http://www.crutchfield.com/p_105KWHR81B/JVC-KW-HDR81BT.html?showAll=N&search=KW-HDR81BT&skipvs=T
But I know there is one more bluetooth feature I would like and that is (MAP) Message Access Profile, which allows for text related messages to the deck for text to speech functions an such. (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_...tooth-do-besides-make-calls-abcs-of-car-tech/)
So anyone have ideas, I think there are new models announced close to this time of year right?
Anyone have good suggestions for a review site?
maxpower2078 said:
I am in the search for the best, well best for a descent price that is probably double din card stereo with the best Android integration.
By that I mean mainly blue tooth and usb.
I know based on some of the bluetooth protocols there are quite a range of things that can be integrated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth#Bluetooth_protocol_stack)
For example pluging into USB and the deck seeing the internal memory as well as SD Card to be able to play files from it, bluetooth being able to push music to the deck as well as the deck being able to communicate with apps such as pandora to skip tracks and such from the deck.
My searches thus far have lead to me this model http://www.crutchfield.com/p_105KWHR81B/JVC-KW-HDR81BT.html?showAll=N&search=KW-HDR81BT&skipvs=T
But I know there is one more bluetooth feature I would like and that is (MAP) Message Access Profile, which allows for text related messages to the deck for text to speech functions an such. (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_...tooth-do-besides-make-calls-abcs-of-car-tech/)
So anyone have ideas, I think there are new models announced close to this time of year right?
Anyone have good suggestions for a review site?
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This is what I'm looking into. Somebody sent me a screen shot of the app radio hooked up to their HTC and it even had the sense 4 lock ring displayed
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/AppRadio/AppRadio+2+(SPH-DA100)
CharliesTheMan said:
This is what I'm looking into. Somebody sent me a screen shot of the app radio hooked up to their HTC and it even had the sense 4 lock ring displayed
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/AppRadio/AppRadio+2+(SPH-DA100)
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That looks very cool but my phone is not on the list plus it seems like something that is in its infancy still. I think a broader technology like bluetooth that could be compatible with many more devices may be a better way of connecting. I think that kind of thing will be awesome in a few years when they nail down a standard for communicating audio/video to the head unit, almost like the head unit is just a monitor to the phone and a touchscreen monitor at that.
I'm actually looking for the same thing right now. I don't want to spend $500+ dollars on a head unit when I could buy a nexus tablet to do everything for half that. But I do want a stand alone radio that I can use with a phone or streaming data, plus a built in amp with preamp outs would be perfect.
App Radio 2 has many issues.
sureshot007 said:
I'm actually looking for the same thing right now. I don't want to spend $500+ dollars on a head unit when I could buy a nexus tablet to do everything for half that. But I do want a stand alone radio that I can use with a phone or streaming data, plus a built in amp with preamp outs would be perfect.
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I just purchased the App Radio 2, and am returning it to Crutchfield. The screen is nice looking, but otherwise it is the single most disappointing electronic device I have ever purchased. I won't go into the long list of complaints about the device, as the hatred I now have for it could destroy a small city. Suffice to say that the unit functions as designed, but was likely designed by a team of engineers who had never seen a car, radio, phone or normal human being. There are a few threads here for people who are still trying to make the device worthwhile, with a particular success in the ARLiberator App.
I'm tempted to try that out, but the reality is the radio software itself is the problem in my opinion. It would be great to use the ARLiberator phone functions, but I don't like the firmware of the radio.
I'm looking at other options and right now the Parrot Asteroid Smart is a front-runner. I'm conflicted as it has runs Android 2.3 and I was hoping for something more current. Search around on the forum for more details on both before you purchase, there are many potential show stoppers.
hey guys,
I've been searching for a Android Head unit for a while now. I too hate the fact that most of them are 2.3, but check this unit out.
ebay.com/itm/Hot-2-Din-Car-Radio-DVD-Player-Fast-Cpu-Android-4-0-WIFI-3G-GPS-Ipod-Bluetooth-/170939816360
recently stumbled over it. Wondering if any has seen one or has one, worry about the quality. Currently, I'm also considering Parrot's new unit.
Hope this helps.
Dan.S said:
I just purchased the App Radio 2, and am returning it to Crutchfield. The screen is nice looking, but otherwise it is the single most disappointing electronic device I have ever purchased. I won't go into the long list of complaints about the device, as the hatred I now have for it could destroy a small city. Suffice to say that the unit functions as designed, but was likely designed by a team of engineers who had never seen a car, radio, phone or normal human being. There are a few threads here for people who are still trying to make the device worthwhile, with a particular success in the ARLiberator App.
I'm tempted to try that out, but the reality is the radio software itself is the problem in my opinion. It would be great to use the ARLiberator phone functions, but I don't like the firmware of the radio.
I'm looking at other options and right now the Parrot Asteroid Smart is a front-runner. I'm conflicted as it has runs Android 2.3 and I was hoping for something more current. Search around on the forum for more details on both before you purchase, there are many potential show stoppers.
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I tried it WITH ARLiberator and I still hate it. I'm looking at the Chinese Double Din HU's now that run only Android (not wince and android).
RSO86 said:
hey guys,
I've been searching for a Android Head unit for a while now. I too hate the fact that most of them are 2.3, but check this unit out.
ebay.com/itm/Hot-2-Din-Car-Radio-DVD-Player-Fast-Cpu-Android-4-0-WIFI-3G-GPS-Ipod-Bluetooth-/170939816360
recently stumbled over it. Wondering if any has seen one or has one, worry about the quality. Currently, I'm also considering Parrot's new unit.
Hope this helps.
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Did you buy one? I'm looking at getting one like this or something similar...
I'm currently looking for a replacement for my Clarion CX501, any updates from anyone? Seems like the APT-X support has yet to hit the headunit market.
Has no one found a good unit yet? Please update!
copekyle said:
Has no one found a good unit yet? Please update!
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Get an android based double din radio, make sure its dual core, 1G Ram, DAB+ supported, 6.2-7" TFT capacitive touch screen, steering wheel controls supported and accepts WiFi dongle. you will have the mighty Google Play store to satisfy your imagination.
obviously such a unit would support most of the Bluetooth profiles.
I noticed few units on ebay but not from any known manufacturer. best i found was from some German supplier icar-tech
Alpha V800 and Alpha S600 are the ones, I haven't confirmed all the above requirements that I would wanna see in my next head unit.
Good Luck
maxpower2078 said:
I am in the search for the best, well best for a descent price that is probably double din card stereo with the best Android integration.
By that I mean mainly blue tooth and usb.
I know based on some of the bluetooth protocols there are quite a range of things that can be integrated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth#Bluetooth_protocol_stack)
For example pluging into USB and the deck seeing the internal memory as well as SD Card to be able to play files from it, bluetooth being able to push music to the deck as well as the deck being able to communicate with apps such as pandora to skip tracks and such from the deck.
My searches thus far have lead to me this model http://www.crutchfield.com/p_105KWHR81B/JVC-KW-HDR81BT.html?showAll=N&search=KW-HDR81BT&skipvs=T
But I know there is one more bluetooth feature I would like and that is (MAP) Message Access Profile, which allows for text related messages to the deck for text to speech functions an such. (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_...tooth-do-besides-make-calls-abcs-of-car-tech/)
So anyone have ideas, I think there are new models announced close to this time of year right?
Anyone have good suggestions for a review site?
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You want Android in your car...install a tablet in the dash. That's the best option, or you could go with the Parrot. But from the reviews I've seen I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
Car Stereo
Hi,
Did you end up getting this head unit?
Does it work well?
RSO86 said:
hey guys,
I've been searching for a Android Head unit for a while now. I too hate the fact that most of them are 2.3, but check this unit out.
ebay.com/itm/Hot-2-Din-Car-Radio-DVD-Player-Fast-Cpu-Android-4-0-WIFI-3G-GPS-Ipod-Bluetooth-/170939816360
recently stumbled over it. Wondering if any has seen one or has one, worry about the quality. Currently, I'm also considering Parrot's new unit.
Hope this helps.
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I wanted to get in on this thread to see if anyone has actually pulled the trigger and bought something yet.
I share the same mentality -- the phone/tablet can handle most of the "smart" functions. All that's needed is rock-solid bluetooth support. If it does great USB, that's a huge bonus.
I have one of the older Pioneer stereos that first did Bluetooth. I got it around 2007. The market has matured a lot since then and I'm itching for an upgrade.
WuddaWaste said:
I wanted to get in on this thread to see if anyone has actually pulled the trigger and bought something yet.
I share the same mentality -- the phone/tablet can handle most of the "smart" functions. All that's needed is rock-solid bluetooth support. If it does great USB, that's a huge bonus.
I have one of the older Pioneer stereos that first did Bluetooth. I got it around 2007. The market has matured a lot since then and I'm itching for an upgrade.
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I've had a look around many different forums and stores, and I'm still at square one. I totally agree that all that's needed is rock-solid bluetooth support.
I've been into a few shops in the last few days and BT paired my GS2 running CM11 and Google Play Music with some head units....for what they can do via bluetooth, they all seem to do a decent job of it......I can skip/pause songs on either the head unti or the phone, Google Play Music on the phone updates as you switch songs on the HU.
But what it doesn't seem capable of (that I've seen or read about), which apparently iPhones can do, is change albums, browse by artist/genre, search, etc.....beyond the most basic of back/next/pause functions, unless I'm mistaken, it's just not possible when BT pairing an Android phone with any head unit on the market.
Can anyone definitively confirm that this is or is not true?
Well.... Now that android auto is in the making, maybe there will be some better offerings available for those of us looking for a good stereo!
1990clb said:
Well.... Now that android auto is in the making, maybe there will be some better offerings available for those of us looking for a good stereo!
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Until then what are we supposed to do ..buy an IPhone?
I have a Google Nexus 4 and went too the effort of looking into the options. I find it utterly amazing in an Android phone you can't browse albums over bluetooth its simply a joke!
The best option would be to try to maybe get a double DIN car stereo with support some kind of screen mirroring so you can change album from the touch screen maybe something like a AVIC-F60DAB but it costs a grand would be cheaper for me to buy an IPhone!!!
I belive you need the AVRCP standard if you want the track listing to display on your headset via Bluetooth.
Even if I could get a Car Stereo to support my mobile..the big problem with the Google nexus and it seems many Android devices they don't support Bluetooth very well. There is a bug in the Nexus 4 so that when you are using bluetooth in your car stereo after a while Bluetooth will just turn off Google don't seem to care about fixing this..I don't really want to get an Apple but if means I can listen to Music via Bluetooth and get access to Google Music then why not.!!
I have a Double Din car stereo. It's the Pioneer AppRadio 3 and it works well mirroring my Nexus 5. There's an app called "AppRadio Unchained" which let's you control your phone via the touch screen of the stereo. The only downside is the lack of power on the radio which makes the scrolling not as fast as any Android phone nowadays, but the Bluetooth has been working non-stop for me.
I had to buy an HDMI dapter to make it compatible though.
I've had a look at these but they are expensive! Maybe if I get a raise I'll buy one haha!
I was hoping to get something similar, but without having to use a HDMI adapter, a completely wireless solution would be kick ass!
Hello Guys
I am working on a small onboardcomputer for my motorcycle. It shall display some information about the engine and motorcycle in general.
First I planned on developping custom hardware with custom written firmware. The hardware base would have been an ATmega32 with a normal BLE SoC (Blue Nano, for whoever it knows)
However, today a friend brought the idea up if I wouldn't want to realize it on top of android wear, as an app for it.
Of course, this would have several advantages:
1) Other android wear apps would be available too, for example routing, or the remote control over music etc.
2) My "Board Computer" would simply be an app, what is easier to maintain than custom built firmware (think about flashing etc).
3) Solid Base
However, I coulnd't find any informations about running android wear on other hardware than you buy it with.
For example I looked if I can find a tutorial about how to run android wear on a Odroid C1 (which can run the normal Android) but coulnd't find any answers.
Why is that?
Regards
Kittenrainbow
It doesn't seem like wear is much more efficient than android. Also, as much as you can do without your phone, there is still a need to pair it with your phone....
What kind of bike do you have? Does it have any sort of OBD equivalent?
Hey
Sorry, it took me a long time to reply.
Well, there doesn't seem to be a way to install Android wear on custom hardware anyway, so the plan is dead (I don't want it to be a hack, there should be a official, reliable way to obtain the software).
Yes, the bike has an ODB-like BUS (it isn't "real" ODB, but some sort of it. I can read some parameters out of it, but normal ODB Libraries aren't compatible with it).
So, what I'd like to to with my boardcomputer is the following (less important things in brackets).
The computer should be paired with the phone over bluetooth, so the smartphone can stay in the pocket
Control the music player of the smartphone
Show a map with the actual position
(Show navigation data, so with routing and everything)
The idea to use android wear was because it supports some of this without big hacks.
And I don't want to reinvent the wheel
Regards
Kittenrianbow
Why not just use another phone? Maybe even a custom mount for your current phone.
I am pretty sure you can control an android device with another android device. You can defiantly pull internet from one android to another via wifi hotspot. You could have all your music on it as well. You can find a cheap waterproof phone and custom mount it with a little fiberglass. This mount would even be removable. Anyway PM me if you want to talk about this further. I can help find all the apps you need.
Hey Guys,
I just bought a brand new Kenworth W900, and it has android auto (or something mimicing it) built in... A panapacific dea600... the major problem is it super kludge... amongst being terribly locked down, i cannot connect to an ad hoc wifi thru my windows 10 laptop (that is tethered to my S6 with easy tether)... my tablet can connect to the ad hoc no problems, and my stereo can see the network but cannot connect to it for some reason (i REALLY need to update the trucks GPS maps, and have you tried to use a truck stops wifi? (like dial up))... id really just like access to the OS or another launcher so i can add some apps that i need (no not facebook or stuff like that) and perhaps root and rom it....
its running android 4.2.2... and i can get you the entirely too long software version
Its sad really because this could be cutting edge stuff, but someone higher up had to come up with ways to neuter this damn thing... and look i get that there are things i shouldnt have access to while driving, but it DOES have android web browser built in so its not like they dont want us using it...
i dont expect the world as this unit has only been shipping with trucks for a few months... and many of you may not have come across it... but perhaps it shares hardware with another system and panapacific just stole it (it HAS happened many times)
thanks guys and look forward to replies before i finish going insane
Nobody?
DEA600 - SmartDisplay for Automotive Infotainment
Hey,
I just came across your note while search for this product - I was the software architect/tech lead for the supplier company providing the Android port and the Freescale SOM component of the display screen on this product line - although moved on shirtly after the system went to mass production. - it is awesome to see someone here discuss it!
You are very correct on a lot of you assumptions and assessments. it was a very ambitious project that really tried to leverage as much of what Android was capable of at the time it was planned, but tuned to work as a smart display for commercial vehicles.
The display is only a part of a system of components. The display runs a port of Android 4.2.2 - but highly tailored to its environment - pairs with the Delphi radio unit (as a peer, not as an accessory) and is toghtly coupled to the unit in production. as a security measure.
unfortunately for what you are looking for, though much of the upgrade and app installation capabilities have been locked down to prevent side loading or execution of "unauthorized" apps that don't have special keys fro. the OEM or manufacturer. even if installed, the system manager will kill any apps that are launched without keys.
you may be able to get a developer key from the OEM but I don't know how they chose to mange that in the final system.
thanks for the posting, though - it was a small run comparatively for android systems but it was a pretty damn cool system with what we did get working....
I would be happy to discuss more if you want. - with what I can....
- Chris
DEA600
hi there
i have same head unit in my 389 pride and class peterbilt, for the map part, that you can update by connecting it to your phones internet, either wifi hot spot if not then just connect it with bluetooth and use bluetooth tethering of phone and PAN of your DEA600, but main problem in the system is that you cant put a single thing without pulling breaks, and u cant download a single file by any means, it just displays error that unfortunately process.android. stopped or browser has stopped or settings has stopped. if any one figured out how to download anythimg in this little thing. please update
hello there. I have T-680 with DEA600. I had exactly the same problem and ended up taking my truck to a dealer. it turned out to be defected radio. After it was replaced, it would connect to a hotspot no problem ( im using htc 10).
I have the same unit in my W 900. It is a huge disappointment in many ways. First of all just like any factory radio I have ever seen in a commercial truck the sound quality is horrible. Second I don't like the fact that it locks so many functions when I am driving. I have a passenger that rides with me most of the time that is perfectly capable of safely operating those functions while I drive. This makes the GPS almost useless for the way I like to use a GPS. Good thing I still have my Garman. But really my biggest disappointment is the fact that I cannot get the gauges to work properly. It states that I can choose from over 30 gauges to be displayed however I have been unable to find any way to change from the six default gauges that are there. I have read the manual but it does not explain how to open the menu that lets you choose which gauges are there. I don't know if my unit is defective like one of a red one of yours was or if it just hasn't come out in an update yet. Also if I am reading this right it looks like my display and gauges function are tied to the stereo which means if I replace the head unit I'm going to lose that function. Am I reading that correctly?
Hey guys so a friend of mine has the DEA601 in his new truck and drives him nuts that the passenger cannot control things when its going faster than 5km hour (his old Peterbuilt worked fine).
I'm a software eng and would like to find out how to disable the Distracted Driver feature (like you can do in settings on many other Android Auto ROM's like Honda). What are my options here? a) Make a whole new ROM (but how to do that?) b) try to hexedit the existing ROM and find where the 5 km value is and modify it c) add an add-on app somehow to override this limit or d) other???
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Ckrobin said:
I have the same unit in my W 900. It is a huge disappointment in many ways. First of all just like any factory radio I have ever seen in a commercial truck the sound quality is horrible. Second I don't like the fact that it locks so many functions when I am driving. I have a passenger that rides with me most of the time that is perfectly capable of safely operating those functions while I drive. This makes the GPS almost useless for the way I like to use a GPS. Good thing I still have my Garman. But really my biggest disappointment is the fact that I cannot get the gauges to work properly. It states that I can choose from over 30 gauges to be displayed however I have been unable to find any way to change from the six default gauges that are there. I have read the manual but it does not explain how to open the menu that lets you choose which gauges are there. I don't know if my unit is defective like one of a red one of yours was or if it just hasn't come out in an update yet. Also if I am reading this right it looks like my display and gauges function are tied to the stereo which means if I replace the head unit I'm going to lose that function. Am I reading that correctly?
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I found out in order for the guages to work I need an $800 module my truck didn't come with. Now my biggest problem is the technology seems to have stagnated. The software on my phone and tablet are no longer very comparable with Android 4.2. I try my iPhone and my Android tablet and neither will play Pandora consistently. I am forced to use Bluetooth which looses sound quality on an already low quality stereo. I really wish Kenworth had spent their R &D on making their trucks compatible with idatalink like most aftermarket stereos use.
At this point I am torn between installing a hideaway marine stereo with a remote display and leaving this POS Pans Pacrapic as a display with nono sound. Or installing a line converter and amp and dealing with this clunky software. I wish someone would make a rom to upgrade this thing.
Looks like the Mfg won this round
Looks like the Mfg won this round
I'm driving one of these trucks also and I keep checking this post but I guess we havent incentivized anyone who cud help yet!
The electrical switch must be located behind the air brakes control knob. I'm sure if you pull the stereo out you will find the wires that control the disabling feature. The unit tries to "update" when connected to wifi. Maybe someone can use wireshark and grab the update packet and modify it with root installed. I'm ok with trying anything short of taking the unit apart and Jtag the firmware directly. Would love to see one taken apart.
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The electrical switch must be located behind the air brakes control knob. I'm sure if you pull the stereo out you will find the wires that control the disabling feature. The unit tries to "update" when connected to wifi. Maybe someone can use wireshark and grab the update packet and modify it with root installed. I'm ok with trying anything short of taking the unit apart and Jtag the firmware directly. Would love to see one taken apart.
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This is a 2+ year old thread being g responded to.
What is your point? 2years later and still no solution to the problem. I ran across this thread of people discussing the same problems I'm having with the radio unit. If you got something usefull to add to this discussion then please feel free otherwise you don't need to acknowledge when what was posted that helps me null with my problem.
Anyone here figure anything out?
still nothing
Hello! So I have little tech experience but I am willing to work with someone here to sort this out. Got a 17 w900 that I put a aftermarket double din in and retained smart nav for the gauges. What I did find was the screen (not the radio) gets a input from the wire harness off the ecm to give data to the screen. So I’ll attach a picture of the plug and maybe we can use this plus find it’s female counterpart then get the other end to plug into a maestro box? My Sony doesn’t have maestro. I do have a pioneer that does but can’t justify the cost being the Guinea pig. I’ve already been one of the first to get the tilt column to drop LOW and managed to fit a true 7” double din where the stupid nav was.
Hi Everyone,
Searched for this topic and couldn't find a thread on this. Anyone have any experience with these headunits? I've seen them advertised for BMW, Mercedes replacement headunits. Apparently they run Android 5.0, have 1gb of ram, so I'm assuming they are some variant of the PX3 or RK3188 chipset, and they are also rooted per some other users.
Here is a link to the one I bought although they are available through a host of other resellers as well:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/10-25-HD-A...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
1. Keep original CD/Radio function,no need tear down the original car's CD/radio player.
2. 10.25"hd capacitive touch screen, resolution (1280*480)
3. BT Phone Book, BT music
4. MP5/SD/USB/1080P playing/AV
5. Reversing tracks display
6. Built in special Can Bus decode box
7. Built in GPS, compatible with 2D/3D map
8. Compatible with external DVR/360°panorama /Auto reversing viewing
11.OSD Language:English/Chinese/Taiwan etc.
12.Support Phone Link
13.Platform:Android 5.0
14.Power Supply: DC 10.8- 14.4V
15.GUI: Similar to AUDI original navigation system GUI
16.Support MMI control
I've gone into the settings and there is no real information there. Is there a way to go into recovery on these units and get an image dump to figure out how we can modify some of the settings? The two that I would like to adjust are the temperature readout in degrees Farenheit instead of Celcius and the distance in MPH instead of Km/h. Thanks.
Do you have any videos over-viewing the system, This looks interesting
Yes, If you do a youtube search for 10.25 android, you should be able to pull up a number of videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kCFLNeIl24 is one from Chris, one of the resellers that is active on the other forums and provides some support for install and such.
One of the drawbacks seems to be that the temp and speed are locked to the metric system and not imperial that is commonly used in the US.
I just installed mine on my 2010 C300. Liking it so far but would like to be able to root it so I can use folder mount to store app data to SD card. By the way, where is the SD sd slot? Also, I can't get phone mirroring to work.
Do they have them in 10.1" ? Some 10.1" units seem more up-to-date and more ram
Looks like on android 5.0 you can use sd card as main storage to install apps so I won't need to root. I'm going to try a 64 gb card and see if it's recognized.
Also if you guys are brave enough, maybe this root method will work on these. Although it's only been done on the android 4.4.4 of the 10.25 inch Avin units.
https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/showpost.php?p=22191036&postcount=391
d3funct said:
Do they have them in 10.1" ? Some 10.1" units seem more up-to-date and more ram
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I have a 10.1" in my other car and you are right, the 10.1" units are more up to date, more recent version of android, 2gb of ram and a faster processor usually. They are very responsive. Unfortunately, for the 10.2" units, these are made for specific BMW, Mercedes cars (and others?) that do not have other screen options since other size screens would look out of place or are not specifically made for these cars. Hope that helps.
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I just installed mine on my 2010 C300. Liking it so far but would like to be able to root it so I can use folder mount to store app data to SD card. By the way, where is the SD sd slot? Also, I can't get phone mirroring to work.
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The SD card slot is on the back of the monitor/screen on the right (passenger) side. There should also be a slot for a sim card, but from what I read in the other forums, it seems that sim cards are not working? Not sure on that.
As far as I know, it already comes rooted, so don't think you need to root. Have you been able to install SuperSU from the play store? I'm having some problems with my install since it seems mine did not ship with the right cable, so haven't messed around the OS yet.
Anyone able to get an image dump to look into some of the options?
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The SD card slot is on the back of the monitor/screen on the right (passenger) side. There should also be a slot for a sim card, but from what I read in the other forums, it seems that sim cards are not working? Not sure on that.
As far as I know, it already comes rooted, so don't think you need to root. Have you been able to install SuperSU from the play store? I'm having some problems with my install since it seems mine did not ship with the right cable, so haven't messed around the OS yet.
Anyone able to get an image dump to look into some of the options?
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Thanks. Found out about the sd card slot from mother BMW forum.
I would check if I can install supersu but I can't install any more apps. I've only installed waze, gboard, LMT pie. It shows I have 12 gb of space left in internal but even if I select internal storage as installation memory, it still tells me I'm out of space. Are you able to install more apps?
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The SD card slot is on the back of the monitor/screen on the right (passenger) side. There should also be a slot for a sim card, but from what I read in the other forums, it seems that sim cards are not working? Not sure on that.
As far as I know, it already comes rooted, so don't think you need to root. Have you been able to install SuperSU from the play store? I'm having some problems with my install since it seems mine did not ship with the right cable, so haven't messed around the OS yet.
Anyone able to get an image dump to look into some of the options?
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I removed Waze so I can install supersu but supersu states I'm not rooted. So I do not think these come rooted. Maybe someone got lucky and got one rooted.
Another question for you. When you are listening to OEM radio and you switch to youtube, does your audio switch? I thought mine did the other day but now it won't. When I play youtube videos, the stock radio audio is still present and won't switch over unless I go back to the command and set audio from AM/FM to Aux.
Weird. Got into my car again for lunch and audio auto switch worked again from OEM radio to youtube. Then I switched back to OEM Radio then back to youtube and it didn't auto switch. So i thought maybe it only works after a reboot so I did a restart on the android side under settings > system. Car was still on and Radio still playing while screen rebooted. After complete reboot, went to youtube again and still audio didn't auto switch.
Will try it again when I'm off work when the car has not been restarted for a few hours. Maybe once the car has completely shut down is when it will work.
UPDATE: Fix for my memory issue (for now)
Root with Kingroot
Install Foldermount and move app data to SD card (I currently have a 32gb sd card in the unit)
harlam said:
Hi Everyone,
Searched for this topic and couldn't find a thread on this. Anyone have any experience with these headunits? I've seen them advertised for BMW, Mercedes replacement headunits. Apparently they run Android 5.0, have 1gb of ram, so I'm assuming they are some variant of the PX3 or RK3188 chipset, and they are also rooted per some other users.
Here is a link to the one I bought although they are available through a host of other resellers as well:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/10-25-HD-A...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
1. Keep original CD/Radio function,no need tear down the original car's CD/radio player.
2. 10.25"hd capacitive touch screen, resolution (1280*480)
3. BT Phone Book, BT music
4. MP5/SD/USB/1080P playing/AV
5. Reversing tracks display
6. Built in special Can Bus decode box
7. Built in GPS, compatible with 2D/3D map
8. Compatible with external DVR/360°panorama /Auto reversing viewing
11.OSD Language:English/Chinese/Taiwan etc.
12.Support Phone Link
13.Platform:Android 5.0
14.Power Supply: DC 10.8- 14.4V
15.GUI: Similar to AUDI original navigation system GUI
16.Support MMI control
I've gone into the settings and there is no real information there. Is there a way to go into recovery on these units and get an image dump to figure out how we can modify some of the settings? The two that I would like to adjust are the temperature readout in degrees Farenheit instead of Celcius and the distance in MPH instead of Km/h. Thanks.
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Do you have issues where the OEM output won't show up on screen? Android side is still there however.
Anyone know where we can get the home luancher APK for W204?
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Anyone know where we can get the home luancher APK for W204?
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Hi,
I managed to get the complete firmware and other update files from my supplier. The files include the BCLauncher.apk that is the actual home launcher for the Mercedes units. I have tried to unpack it but it seems to be password protected.
I noticed you have posted some very informative info on this unit at mbworld. If you are interested I can send you the files to play around with, maybe you can find a way to crack that launcher. Just PM me here or over at mbworld. I am really itching to make some long overdue changes to that launcher....
Hi ... i’m keen to see if I could make some improvement on the launcher and firmware ... would you mind uploading to Dropbox or Google drIve hence I can download and have a try could you also share some screenshots for the home screen, system version for reference. Thanks.
I’ve got the same issue for the off market tablet on my Benz too, can you please share the files to me too?
I have one of that display in my cla 45 amg. With root and some modding it is not bad. But they are not running android 5.1.1 like it says. When you look in build.prop you will find api number of 4.2.2
so i played today with my display and i debloated it (removed all unneded apps like telephone, contacts, wallpapers etc etc) and created a swap partition on my external sd card and with kernel auditor changed the governour from hotplug to ondemand one. now the display is faster and for example it dont needs anymore 30 seconds for open spotify. i cant upload a rom since my display have a modded scatter file for have 3gb data partition and not only 1gb
I'm thinking of getting one for my W204 C-Class. However, i don't like the "style" that much. Does anyone know if there is a 7" or 8,8" Version of those HUs out there, that integrate with the factory control joystick of the Mercedes?