[Q] Run Android Wear on SBC - Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello Guys
I am working on a small onboardcomputer for my motorcycle. It shall display some information about the engine and motorcycle in general.
First I planned on developping custom hardware with custom written firmware. The hardware base would have been an ATmega32 with a normal BLE SoC (Blue Nano, for whoever it knows)
However, today a friend brought the idea up if I wouldn't want to realize it on top of android wear, as an app for it.
Of course, this would have several advantages:
1) Other android wear apps would be available too, for example routing, or the remote control over music etc.
2) My "Board Computer" would simply be an app, what is easier to maintain than custom built firmware (think about flashing etc).
3) Solid Base
However, I coulnd't find any informations about running android wear on other hardware than you buy it with.
For example I looked if I can find a tutorial about how to run android wear on a Odroid C1 (which can run the normal Android) but coulnd't find any answers.
Why is that?
Regards
Kittenrainbow

It doesn't seem like wear is much more efficient than android. Also, as much as you can do without your phone, there is still a need to pair it with your phone....
What kind of bike do you have? Does it have any sort of OBD equivalent?

Hey
Sorry, it took me a long time to reply.
Well, there doesn't seem to be a way to install Android wear on custom hardware anyway, so the plan is dead (I don't want it to be a hack, there should be a official, reliable way to obtain the software).
Yes, the bike has an ODB-like BUS (it isn't "real" ODB, but some sort of it. I can read some parameters out of it, but normal ODB Libraries aren't compatible with it).
So, what I'd like to to with my boardcomputer is the following (less important things in brackets).
The computer should be paired with the phone over bluetooth, so the smartphone can stay in the pocket
Control the music player of the smartphone
Show a map with the actual position
(Show navigation data, so with routing and everything)
The idea to use android wear was because it supports some of this without big hacks.
And I don't want to reinvent the wheel
Regards
Kittenrianbow

Why not just use another phone? Maybe even a custom mount for your current phone.
I am pretty sure you can control an android device with another android device. You can defiantly pull internet from one android to another via wifi hotspot. You could have all your music on it as well. You can find a cheap waterproof phone and custom mount it with a little fiberglass. This mount would even be removable. Anyway PM me if you want to talk about this further. I can help find all the apps you need.

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I need some help with bluetooth, some pointers would be awesome.

Basic introduction:
Me and a team of two other fellows are trying to develop a cool android application for a school assignment. We are focusing on Android v2.2+, and all have either a Droid Incredible or the Evo 4G.
The guts:
We'll be dealing with a few bits of hardware on the android side: the bluetooth radio, the camera, and the microphone.
The glory:
Our objective is that we're trying to use a phone's bluetooth connection and a computer's bluetooth connection to create a pairing of the two devices, and then have Windows recognize the phone as being an input microphone and video camera.
The question:
So far we have an android application that turns on the phone's bluetooth and initiates a camera preview. However, at this point we're kinda at a fork in the road... I have never dealt with anything like bluetooth before, and I've never programmed for android before.
I'm asking for some pointers and / or a focus point here. Unfortunately for our program already being so basic, we already aren't exactly sure of where to go from here. I typically find the android documentation to be way over elaborate with techspeak and under par with examples.
You can view all of our current code on our google code page: http://code.google.com/p/red-dragon/ (the name of our team is a bit of an inside joke )
Thanks a bunch guys!

Car troubles - audio via USB, hands free texting

I drive a 2010 GMC Terrain. Girlfriends iphone/ipod plays through the USB port fine, but I tried my nexus 4 and got nothing. 5.0.1 stock, but considering alternate ROMs
After a year and a half with windows phone, I was way overdue to come back to android. one good thing about WP though was that my texts would read aloud through Bluetooth (my rig only has Bluetooth for calls, not a2dp), but android still doesn't seem to have this feature stock.
Suggestions for either of these issues?
no clue on usb-audio out, but internet should have something on that
for second issue i know of two possible solutions:
1) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.grimpy.botifier&hl=pl (edit - this app actually sends text to car's display, not the audio)
2) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.marvin.talkback&hl=pl
other than these two apps i suppose there are many other, just type a few queries in play store, i'm sure you'll find what you desire
3) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=robj.readit.tomefree
I tried readittome, it requires a purchase to get the full features. The other apps look cool, but not quite what I'm looking for. Disappointing that android still doesn't have what should be deemed an essential feature when a platform like windows phone does.

Panapacific DEA600 head unit and smart touch screen...

Hey Guys,
I just bought a brand new Kenworth W900, and it has android auto (or something mimicing it) built in... A panapacific dea600... the major problem is it super kludge... amongst being terribly locked down, i cannot connect to an ad hoc wifi thru my windows 10 laptop (that is tethered to my S6 with easy tether)... my tablet can connect to the ad hoc no problems, and my stereo can see the network but cannot connect to it for some reason (i REALLY need to update the trucks GPS maps, and have you tried to use a truck stops wifi? (like dial up))... id really just like access to the OS or another launcher so i can add some apps that i need (no not facebook or stuff like that) and perhaps root and rom it....
its running android 4.2.2... and i can get you the entirely too long software version
Its sad really because this could be cutting edge stuff, but someone higher up had to come up with ways to neuter this damn thing... and look i get that there are things i shouldnt have access to while driving, but it DOES have android web browser built in so its not like they dont want us using it...
i dont expect the world as this unit has only been shipping with trucks for a few months... and many of you may not have come across it... but perhaps it shares hardware with another system and panapacific just stole it (it HAS happened many times)
thanks guys and look forward to replies before i finish going insane
Nobody?
DEA600 - SmartDisplay for Automotive Infotainment
Hey,
I just came across your note while search for this product - I was the software architect/tech lead for the supplier company providing the Android port and the Freescale SOM component of the display screen on this product line - although moved on shirtly after the system went to mass production. - it is awesome to see someone here discuss it!
You are very correct on a lot of you assumptions and assessments. it was a very ambitious project that really tried to leverage as much of what Android was capable of at the time it was planned, but tuned to work as a smart display for commercial vehicles.
The display is only a part of a system of components. The display runs a port of Android 4.2.2 - but highly tailored to its environment - pairs with the Delphi radio unit (as a peer, not as an accessory) and is toghtly coupled to the unit in production. as a security measure.
unfortunately for what you are looking for, though much of the upgrade and app installation capabilities have been locked down to prevent side loading or execution of "unauthorized" apps that don't have special keys fro. the OEM or manufacturer. even if installed, the system manager will kill any apps that are launched without keys.
you may be able to get a developer key from the OEM but I don't know how they chose to mange that in the final system.
thanks for the posting, though - it was a small run comparatively for android systems but it was a pretty damn cool system with what we did get working....
I would be happy to discuss more if you want. - with what I can....
- Chris
DEA600
hi there
i have same head unit in my 389 pride and class peterbilt, for the map part, that you can update by connecting it to your phones internet, either wifi hot spot if not then just connect it with bluetooth and use bluetooth tethering of phone and PAN of your DEA600, but main problem in the system is that you cant put a single thing without pulling breaks, and u cant download a single file by any means, it just displays error that unfortunately process.android. stopped or browser has stopped or settings has stopped. if any one figured out how to download anythimg in this little thing. please update
hello there. I have T-680 with DEA600. I had exactly the same problem and ended up taking my truck to a dealer. it turned out to be defected radio. After it was replaced, it would connect to a hotspot no problem ( im using htc 10).
I have the same unit in my W 900. It is a huge disappointment in many ways. First of all just like any factory radio I have ever seen in a commercial truck the sound quality is horrible. Second I don't like the fact that it locks so many functions when I am driving. I have a passenger that rides with me most of the time that is perfectly capable of safely operating those functions while I drive. This makes the GPS almost useless for the way I like to use a GPS. Good thing I still have my Garman. But really my biggest disappointment is the fact that I cannot get the gauges to work properly. It states that I can choose from over 30 gauges to be displayed however I have been unable to find any way to change from the six default gauges that are there. I have read the manual but it does not explain how to open the menu that lets you choose which gauges are there. I don't know if my unit is defective like one of a red one of yours was or if it just hasn't come out in an update yet. Also if I am reading this right it looks like my display and gauges function are tied to the stereo which means if I replace the head unit I'm going to lose that function. Am I reading that correctly?
Hey guys so a friend of mine has the DEA601 in his new truck and drives him nuts that the passenger cannot control things when its going faster than 5km hour (his old Peterbuilt worked fine).
I'm a software eng and would like to find out how to disable the Distracted Driver feature (like you can do in settings on many other Android Auto ROM's like Honda). What are my options here? a) Make a whole new ROM (but how to do that?) b) try to hexedit the existing ROM and find where the 5 km value is and modify it c) add an add-on app somehow to override this limit or d) other???
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Ckrobin said:
I have the same unit in my W 900. It is a huge disappointment in many ways. First of all just like any factory radio I have ever seen in a commercial truck the sound quality is horrible. Second I don't like the fact that it locks so many functions when I am driving. I have a passenger that rides with me most of the time that is perfectly capable of safely operating those functions while I drive. This makes the GPS almost useless for the way I like to use a GPS. Good thing I still have my Garman. But really my biggest disappointment is the fact that I cannot get the gauges to work properly. It states that I can choose from over 30 gauges to be displayed however I have been unable to find any way to change from the six default gauges that are there. I have read the manual but it does not explain how to open the menu that lets you choose which gauges are there. I don't know if my unit is defective like one of a red one of yours was or if it just hasn't come out in an update yet. Also if I am reading this right it looks like my display and gauges function are tied to the stereo which means if I replace the head unit I'm going to lose that function. Am I reading that correctly?
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I found out in order for the guages to work I need an $800 module my truck didn't come with. Now my biggest problem is the technology seems to have stagnated. The software on my phone and tablet are no longer very comparable with Android 4.2. I try my iPhone and my Android tablet and neither will play Pandora consistently. I am forced to use Bluetooth which looses sound quality on an already low quality stereo. I really wish Kenworth had spent their R &D on making their trucks compatible with idatalink like most aftermarket stereos use.
At this point I am torn between installing a hideaway marine stereo with a remote display and leaving this POS Pans Pacrapic as a display with nono sound. Or installing a line converter and amp and dealing with this clunky software. I wish someone would make a rom to upgrade this thing.
Looks like the Mfg won this round
Looks like the Mfg won this round
I'm driving one of these trucks also and I keep checking this post but I guess we havent incentivized anyone who cud help yet!
The electrical switch must be located behind the air brakes control knob. I'm sure if you pull the stereo out you will find the wires that control the disabling feature. The unit tries to "update" when connected to wifi. Maybe someone can use wireshark and grab the update packet and modify it with root installed. I'm ok with trying anything short of taking the unit apart and Jtag the firmware directly. Would love to see one taken apart.
sunny530 said:
The electrical switch must be located behind the air brakes control knob. I'm sure if you pull the stereo out you will find the wires that control the disabling feature. The unit tries to "update" when connected to wifi. Maybe someone can use wireshark and grab the update packet and modify it with root installed. I'm ok with trying anything short of taking the unit apart and Jtag the firmware directly. Would love to see one taken apart.
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This is a 2+ year old thread being g responded to.
What is your point? 2years later and still no solution to the problem. I ran across this thread of people discussing the same problems I'm having with the radio unit. If you got something usefull to add to this discussion then please feel free otherwise you don't need to acknowledge when what was posted that helps me null with my problem.
Anyone here figure anything out?
still nothing
Hello! So I have little tech experience but I am willing to work with someone here to sort this out. Got a 17 w900 that I put a aftermarket double din in and retained smart nav for the gauges. What I did find was the screen (not the radio) gets a input from the wire harness off the ecm to give data to the screen. So I’ll attach a picture of the plug and maybe we can use this plus find it’s female counterpart then get the other end to plug into a maestro box? My Sony doesn’t have maestro. I do have a pioneer that does but can’t justify the cost being the Guinea pig. I’ve already been one of the first to get the tilt column to drop LOW and managed to fit a true 7” double din where the stupid nav was.

Navhouse 4.4.2 Android Questions

Hello all, I recently got an android head unit from ebay, os 4.4.2, and I have some questions. First all, the MCU is 5.3.17-1-10-610101-151112 with a quadcore-r16 1.6gh processor. There are many apps on the play store that say "incompatible with my device" so I would like to root and update, but cannot figure out or find info how to boot to recovery mode to install. Also if I do root and update will I lose the AM/FM radio app? I have noticed that the same systems are named differently, so it's hard to figure out which one I really have. Another thing I need to know is the best way to connect an ipod via usb and have full control on the stereo. The only thing I can do is Bluetooth to it and play the music I was playing on the ipod but no way to choose which artist without using the ipod itself, so full control is a must. It's actually an old iphone 4 but I only use it as an ipod.
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Is there a watch with GPS which I can lock down the interface of?

Hi all,
I'm looking at getting my toddler an Android watch so I can see where she is based on Android Device Manager, but I would want to lock down the interface so that she can't accidentally perform any functions on the UI.
Can anyone help me out with which devices I may want to begin looking at please? Or if anyone's done similar in the past I'd be keen to hear successes and pitfalls etc.
thanks in advance!
ADM doesn't work that way for android wear. Your watch won't show on the web page with your devices. For a.w., it only makes the paired phone ring.
I don't see android wear as a good solution for you, honestly. Unless you got an urbane 2, it would only work while connected to wifi. Locking the screen can be done, but I'm not aware of an app that will work without a bt connection to the phone. Glympse doesn't work without bt connection, it seems.

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