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Many seem to want the HTC Desire ROM for Sense UI just because of the HTC apps and widgets. People like me prefer the Stock experience with the HTC apps and widgets installed.
Some of the reasons for this include the preference of the consistent Googley look and feel, smoother scrolling on stock apps, and many other objective and subjective reasons.
Modaco provides an Online Kitchen for making custom HTC Desire port ROMs for N1. On the kitchen, you can choose to not include the Sense/Rosie app in the ROM. This is a huge step to creating the stock look and feel. How do we install the custom launcher without the need to bake a custom ROM with the Online Kitchen? Will this also convert the overall look and feel to the stock one?
Because we can't install HTC apps and widgets without the whole HTC Sense UI framework, how do we achieve seemingly having a stock ROM look and feel + HTC apps and widgets?
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Code:
adb shell rm /system/app/Rosie.apk
will drop Rosie and give you your standard launcher. I highly recommend grabbing 'Root Explorer' from the Market and perusing the /system/app dir.
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paulobrien said:
Code:
adb shell rm /system/app/Rosie.apk
will drop Rosie and give you your standard launcher. I highly recommend grabbing 'Root Explorer' from the Market and perusing the /system/app dir.
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Coool!
Just wondering, great sir, why did you decide to drop Rosie?
edit: oops. I thought, you meant, you're going to drop Rosie on the HTC Desire port ROM. I misunderstood. Sorry
anthro said:
Many seem to want the HTC Desire ROM for Sense UI just because of the HTC apps and widgets. People like me prefer the Stock experience with the HTC apps and widgets installed.
Some of the reasons for this include the preference of the consistent Googley look and feel, smoother scrolling on stock apps, and many other objective and subjective reasons.
Modaco provides an Online Kitchen for making custom HTC Desire port ROMs for N1. On the kitchen, you can choose to not include the Sense/Rosie app in the ROM. This is a huge step to creating the stock look and feel. How do we install the custom launcher without the need to bake a custom ROM with the Online Kitchen? Will this also convert the overall look and feel to the stock one?
Because we can't install HTC apps and widgets without the whole HTC Sense UI framework, how do we achieve seemingly having a stock ROM look and feel + HTC apps and widgets?
*I support Modaco and recommend signing up for premium membership. I just don't have the means to afford it. To those who can afford, please consider supporting great devs by donating in ways like singing up for premium membership
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Good idea!!!
I vote for that!!!
anthro said:
Coool!
Just wondering, great sir, why did you decide to drop Rosie?
edit: oops. I thought, you meant, you're going to drop Rosie on the HTC Desire port ROM. I misunderstood. Sorry
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false happiness....
ZeuBug said:
false happiness....
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I was able to drop Rosie.
This can be done by simple using Home Switcher (an app on the Market) to use "Launcher" instead of "Rosie" as the Home app. However, HTC widgets can't be used without Rosie. HTC apps are fine without it, though
Still a step forward.
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I also noticed that things are still kinda laggy. Scrolling the stock app list isn't as smooth as how it is on stock or other ROMs. Probably, the lag is caused by the ROM. It's still in alpha so we'll just have to wait. Still very early now
I figured I was in the minority here with zero interest in senseUI. I quite like the stock look/feel of android 2.1 but can fully appreciate the user experience the widgets and such inside sense provides.
I do wonder if all of the rom creators are going to jump on the senseUI bandwagon and move away from the stock experience leaving those of us who rather not touch HTC's bastardization out in the cold Thankfully Paul seems to be keeping everyone in mind with his roms...I wonder what Cyan is going to do with future releases...
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Strange is, that on Hero (with SenseUI) everybody wanted a stock rom without it, and on Nexus (without SenseUI, you know) everybody wants these lame senseUI.
I like this smooth on stock Android, hoping, that Paul and cyanogen creates there good stuff, based on real Nexus code wthout anything of the HTC stuff.
I dn't know, why there is so much hype about these Desire ROMs for Nexus.
I belive it will be better to make the stock ROMs better...
ZeuBug said:
false happiness....
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Why? I posted the command to get rid of Rosie, and you can do it from Root Explorer easily too.
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Formel-LMS said:
Strange is, that on Hero (with SenseUI) everybody wanted a stock rom without it, and on Nexus (without SenseUI, you know) everybody wants these lame senseUI.
I like this smooth on stock Android, hoping, that Paul and cyanogen creates there good stuff, based on real Nexus code wthout anything of the HTC stuff.
I dn't know, why there is so much hype about these Desire ROMs for Nexus.
I belive it will be better to make the stock ROMs better...
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2,5 things interesting me in Desire rom:
1) HTC PDF Viewer
2) highlight text for copy (like on iphone)
3) flash player in web browser (it's 0,5 thing, because work not well on all websites.... )
I hate the rest... (after test Paul roms) it's just my modest opinion!
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Why? I posted the command to get rid of Rosie, and you can do it from Root Explorer easily too.
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Because we would like to have some sense app on stock rom! not to have Desire rom with stock apps!
You make a great work but for my daily use, there to much bug for now... (bluetooth, flash, missed app in market, etc...)
I'm sure in next weeks I could make another good try on your rom!
PS: did you see my private msg on Modaco? thanks!
Dislike sense UI love the stock look.
But HTC'S framework do have quite a few added extras that would make the stock 2.1 awesome all around.
one being the select text format similar to the iphone. The camera on desire is 100x way more attractive then the stock one. The htc camera makes you feel like your holding a 2010 product. The stock camera feels and looks like is a polaroid cam.
To have desire with everything it brings widgets, apps & have the stock look feel and dialer is my DESIRE.
The dialer on HTC'S is awful. I am so used to stock 2.1 contacts app is just awesome.
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Why? I posted the command to get rid of Rosie, and you can do it from Root Explorer easily too.
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you cant run the widgets and thats what the OP was talking about.
I'd like to use the stock contacts and dialer because the HTC dialer doesn't let me dial out using my google voice number.
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2,5 things interesting me in Desire rom:
1) HTC PDF Viewer
2) highlight text for copy (like on iphone)
3) flash player in web browser (it's 0,5 thing, because work not well on all websites.... )
I hate the rest... (after test Paul roms) it's just my modest opinion!
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I'll give you numbers one and two. At least the nexus will be getting (as far as we all know anyways) full flash (10.1) while the desire thus far has flash lite...
These three are not enough to keep me stomaching seuseui though.
Its all a matter of opinion on what you like. I was trying to get a lot of what the senseui does natively already on my stock 2.1 so it makes things easier for me. I can't see all that much of a difference in stock 2.1 vs. senseui in terms of how it looks anyways. Just a couple small visual differences.
The senseui has a lot to offer over stock. The apps, widgets, clock, lock screen that allows control over music, better copy and paste, browser is better, ability to call someone from any screen and not have to worry about finding phone icon, flat scrolling for me in programs is better than a 3d scroll, dark status bar unlike the white stock,
Most of this can be done through market apps and or tweaks done to a stock rom but this seems to do it better all in one. The things senseui does not have that are on stock I just move over.
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Its all a matter of opinion on what you like. I was trying to get a lot of what the senseui does natively already on my stock 2.1 so it makes things easier for me. I can't see all that much of a difference in stock 2.1 vs. senseui in terms of how it looks anyways. Just a couple small visual differences.
The senseui has a lot to offer over stock. The apps, widgets, clock, lock screen that allows control over music, better copy and paste, browser is better, ability to call someone from any screen and not have to worry about finding phone icon, flat scrolling for me in programs is better than a 3d scroll, dark status bar unlike the white stock,
Most of this can be done through market apps and or tweaks done to a stock rom but this seems to do it better all in one. The things senseui does not have that are on stock I just move over.
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How can you? " call someone from any screen and not have to worry about finding phone icon"
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How can you? " call someone from any screen and not have to worry about finding phone icon"
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I only meant that with senseui the phone icon follows you through all 7 pages as opposed to the stock 2.1 where you have to click on the actual phone icon to launch the dialer.
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I only meant that with senseui the phone icon follows you through all 7 pages as opposed to the stock 2.1 where you have to click on the actual phone icon to launch the dialer.
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Simple solution for that really...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630659
Obviously this mimics the way sense handles things but such a simple mod removes yet another reason to change the entire interface.
I don't find the sense ui intuitive, nor do I like it as a whole much in the same way I don't like apple's ui or find it intuitive
But as you said before, it's all a matter of opinion. I assume if I were to force myself to acclimate to sense, I would get used to it. This all becomes a moot point though if/when flash 10.1 hits for our phones and not for the desire/sense. People will have to choose between full flash (assuming that the desire sticks with flash lite) and sense...unless someone manages to build a nexus-centric rom with sense baked in
how to make stock launcher
made this thread a wee bit earlier, its the best recourse for those who want a stock launcher.
it wont let me paste a forum link but if you google search
stock froyo launcher htc desire
its the first one that comes up.
please link this to other forums, im not an active forum member/ poster but a lot of people have been looking for this.
I know there are people who love sense/rosie, I used to be one of them. But the more I use my phone, the more I find myself just wanting it cut down a bit and more streamlined..
I have no need for facebook or twitter, htc mail widgets etc.
The only things I see value in are the dialer, pinch to zoom in the browser and the music controls on the lock screen..
I have found myself setting 'home' as the default on most of my ROM's and having everything go fast, but I can't help thinking it could be even better..
I am fine with 3 to 5 home screens, no need for leap..
Just a lightning fast, stable build with no bloat or social crap..
Am I alone in wanting this?
TJ
For all the Dev's, you are doing AWESOME work, I love playing with all the ROM's and sincerely appreciate your time and effort. I know the masses want rosie, but there are a large number of people who aren't the majority
Honestly, I really like the HTC Friendstream and/or Twitter widget, but I can do without them. One thing I would miss is the HTC camera, but I found out today that it's been ported to the Nexus One, so I don't see why we couldn't get the HTC Camera in a vanilla Hero ROM.
I've noticed (using Villain 5.0, aka the 2.1 Sprint Hero ROM) that if I'm listening to music and using google navigation, the music skips sometimes, mostly when the GPS app is calculating something. I figure getting rid of Sense might fix this by freeing up some RAM.
So, as long as we can get the HTC Camera into a vanilla ROM (and maybe that's already been done... anyone?), then yes, I would rather use a vanilla ROM.
With a vanilla ROM we should also be able to use voice dialing, right? Since we'd be using the google dialer instead of the HTC one?
Save Heros from sense.
I really don't like sense and hate the thought of having to return to it for a stable phone... the stock android experience is what I want on the my Hero.
I am a developer and do know Java well but I don't have much time to dive into Android although I have started. I have the sdk, eclipse, and the source synced and started looking at the code.
I know we are waiting for HTC to release updated kernel sources and to get our hands on stable drivers but I would like to get Gallery3D and Launcher 2 working
It's a shame that I have this tease... a 80% stable phone using aHero v0.6.1 but the phone still locks up and reboot randomly... this could have a lot to do with the kernel and drivers.
Gallery3D used to work in both landscape and Portrait on Android 2.0
Not sure if this is Google dropping support or bad drivers but I have had Google Earth running on this Hero too.
Launcher2 is actually faster then launcher but it seems to swap out of memory or something when the phone sleeps and takes a few seconds to wake up.
I will try and look at the code more but I'm hoping some very skilled Android Hero guru will save the Hero and get us up and running %100 in the next months.
i support the notion for a vanila rom. sense is nice, but truthfully, i am a fan of the stock android gui. for some, its clunky. for me, i can work around it. i feel the phone would be more of a true enthusiast's phone with the stock OS, and sense tries to well..(no pun intended) make sense for people new to having a phone.
HTC is doing a great job making android phones appealing, but the way android OS looked prior to sense was what appealed me to it in the first place...something unique, one that is sort of minimalistic yet packs a lot of options for an end-user. I find HTC's widgets beautiful but slow. And in a phone, i'd rather have zip to make an emergency phone call rather than a cool UI soaking up the resources to display the weather. thats not to say i don't like cute little things like that, though. just have the speed first, optimize and incorporate later. 1.5 did well, and 2.1 really makes android very nice, keeping its simplicity and making subtle yet elegant additions.
2.1 stock rom based from these leaks pls =3
It's good to see i'm not alone..
I agree that once the new kernel comes out I think it will be much easier to get a fully functional stock 2.1 happening..
I have used raidroid 2.1 and I was VERY impressed with the speed, but all that makes me think is how it could be even faster!
I just like the idea of a business like experience.. No bull****, just do what you are built to do.
I'm pretty keen to see a fast stock rom as well. I already use the stock keyboard because of its speed and I was using Launcher2 for a while, but it was too buggy.
But really, more then anything I want a fast, stable build to run with.
The only thing I think it would really miss is the music player controls on the lock screen, but I think they could do with some work.... not fast enough at the moment, the same goes with unlocking to answer a phone call, it all seems to take too long.
agree
aHero 0.61 is good, but still a bit buggy
im not a fan of the sense bloatware approach
I'm currently working on a rom that pretty much fits these requirements.
CyanogenMod based (this may change due to video playback issues), JIT enabled, and after an initial release, I may try and integrate drivers from the CDMA 2.1 roms.
Oh, and it won't have Sense (inefficient and ineffective), Launcher2, Live Wallpapers or any of the rest of that superfluous crap.
I would love to see a stable build of a vanilla rom...everytime one is released i flash right away but theres always a major bug that push me to sense roms again.
I even like the android camera,mostly in poor light conditions.
The music control in lockscreen is nice but not nice enough to make it a setback...
All the social widgets(twitter,facebook,mail,buzz,etc.) can be found in market for free...many of them better then HTC ones.
Genie widgets can do weather and news(I use them in sense roms)
If ppl dont like android calendar widget,"smooth calendar" is similar to HTC calendar(to me is much better) and free.
And thats what makes vanilla rom so good,i only install this apk if i want to or need it...my phone,my rules.
yeah i would love one!
I also hate seeing SocialNetworkReciever firing up all the time in logcat when my phone is asleep when I have no accounts for fb, twitter and flickr..
*SocialNetworkReciever is being called every 5 mins! Even after removing peep!
Just like any OS on whatever device. It should be basic and fast.
+1 for Vanilla.
I very much prefer the vanilla Android experience over Sense. For me Sense adds nothing but bugs and bloat and also a few Android features I like are missing in HTC Android.
I would like one as well. Currently I am just stripping everything from someone's custom rom, perhaps I should try the Kitchen that's available to make my own 2.1, based on AOSP.
Yep, i'm on board. A 2.1 Vanilla ROM, possibly with Multi-Touch in the Browser, Touch Focus in the Camera and the HTC dialler would be perfect.
I loved the aychteesee rom for this reason. at the time it was the fastest around for the hero. shame it never got updated, there were one or two bugs that pushed me back to sense.
It makes sense to install an os with very few features on, as we have the Market! I really don't find any htc widget/app that performs better than a Market place counterpart. Just look at Camera Zoom FX.
Best Vanilla Rom
Hi all,
I've tried lots of ROMs and I must say that Kagudroid 1.2.2 is by far the best. It is vanilla Android and it is faster, more stable, less buggy than any other ROM. The only drawback was that the camera was unstable, but now there is a fix for that in the post on Htcpedia.com (http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1979)
Try it, it's the difference you're looking for!
I really want a stock fast vanilla rom.. Going to try this kagudroid.. Let's se how it is
Taijohnsen said:
I know there are people who love sense/rosie, I used to be one of them. But the more I use my phone, the more I find myself just wanting it cut down a bit and more streamlined..
I have no need for facebook or twitter, htc mail widgets etc.
The only things I see value in are the dialer, pinch to zoom in the browser and the music controls on the lock screen..
I have found myself setting 'home' as the default on most of my ROM's and having everything go fast, but I can't help thinking it could be even better..
I am fine with 3 to 5 home screens, no need for leap..
Just a lightning fast, stable build with no bloat or social crap..
Am I alone in wanting this?
TJ
For all the Dev's, you are doing AWESOME work, I love playing with all the ROM's and sincerely appreciate your time and effort. I know the masses want rosie, but there are a large number of people who aren't the majority
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I don't think this is the right part of the hero threads for your Christmas wish list, mayee the Q&A section. Try picking a Rom that's already close to what you require and giving feedback
Would love one, too!
<3 Google / Android 4 Life ;-)
Hi,
This is my first android device & I LOVE it. So much better than WM. I know in WM that sense was a huge resource hog & while it made WM better, it also made it slower. I read over & over that Sense on android is also a resource hog. I would like to try a AOSP rom to see how it is without sense. I really do need a camera though (it actually takes good photos & is usuable unlike my Treo Pro).
I am using Launcher Pro so AOSP would be an interesting thing to try.
Which rom should I use?
Thanks,
Rich
RichTJ99 said:
Hi,
This is my first android device & I LOVE it. So much better than WM. I know in WM that sense was a huge resource hog & while it made WM better, it also made it slower. I read over & over that Sense on android is also a resource hog. I would like to try a AOSP rom to see how it is without sense. I really do need a camera though (it actually takes good photos & is usuable unlike my Treo Pro).
I am using Launcher Pro so AOSP would be an interesting thing to try.
Which rom should I use?
Thanks,
Rich
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search button FTW !!
Such a helpful reply!!
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Rich,
In short, No. Look in the Dev section everything you need to know including questions that you have not yet asked can be found there...
Just cause im bored at work ill help you out...
For the ROM just wait for CyanogenMOD like most the rest of us are. Until then you can Delete the Rosie.apk and it wont take up any resources.
/threadjack
Anyone know if i can remove that rosieutility process? It randomly force closes (i assume cause there is no rosie on my evo), but yeah... the only thing i use that is sense related is Flickr integration.
/threadjack
I dont think HTC has decided what to do with sense after seeing ics , most of the funcionality they offer wasnt present on any android version until gingerbread and now ics includes most of those, do you think they're going to do something similar to windows phone and use almost stock android but with their apps and services like weather, htc sense account etc?
I personally despise sense and hope HTC starts to give us little android virgins, but I am sure for marketing purposes they will keep cramming there software on there products so they have some claim to originality.
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I dont think HTC has decided what to do with sense after seeing ics , most of the funcionality they offer wasnt present on any android version until gingerbread and now ics includes most of those, do you think they're going to do something similar to windows phone and use almost stock android but with their apps and services like weather, htc sense account etc?
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We can but live in hope, and maybe they will make the apps user removable too
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We can but live in hope, and maybe they will make the apps user removable too
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ICS has a feature that all apps can be disabled (equivalent to 'freezing' in titanium backup - not removed but can't run)
SupaAvenger79 said:
I personally despise sense and hope HTC starts to give us little android virgins, but I am sure for marketing purposes they will keep cramming there software on there products so they have some claim to originality.
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If you root you can have anything you like - try CM7 (and when released, CM9 with ICS).
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I dont think HTC has decided what to do with sense after seeing ics , most of the funcionality they offer wasnt present on any android version until gingerbread and now ics includes most of those, do you think they're going to do something similar to windows phone and use almost stock android but with their apps and services like weather, htc sense account etc?
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What kind of functionality did sense add? It was very pretty and the widgets were very good (calendar, for example) - but did it add any extra features?
I actually like Sense. Of all "major frameworks" like TouchWize and Blur and what not, Sense comes on TOP (my opinion only).
Now, can we live without sense? Perfectly.
Will HTC abandon Sense in ICS? Doubt it.
P.S. i run a rom with Sense daily... so.. biased
I hope so. I hate sense. I only like the widgets and the social network integration on the contacts app. After getting rid of sense my phone became faster and battery lasts longer.
But now, the stock launcher and features of ICS is better than sense. Even the widgets looks better now.
But i doubt they will remove sense 100%. I just wish that they won't be changing the stock ICS UI that much.
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I hope so. I hate sense. I only like the widgets and the social network integration on the contacts app. After getting rid of sense my phone became faster and battery lasts longer.
But now, the stock launcher and features of ICS is better than sense. Even the widgets looks better now.
But i doubt they will remove sense 100%. I just wish that they won't be changing the stock ICS UI that much.
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This is my point! Pick Sense, remove social integration, custom widgets, dialer, sms app, and all the other minor things, and yout get AOSP. And the you miss those things.
I agree, Sense IS HEAVY. But for what it does, it's the best. How many apps would one have to install on AOSP to get the full sense functionality? And how slower would that device be with that amount of apps interchaining themselves?
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in short. ditch sense for the ICS UI
HTC will always add there own interpretation on what they think Ice Cream Sandwich will look like, and that is the way it is. But what I do hope is that they build on top of what Google has done instead of stripping everything out.
For example, mail apps, people apps are not stock and they should try to keep it true to what Google intended and maybe use the API that are exposed by Google to add there on stuff on top.
Also they should try to build a launcher that is not so heavy integrated to how the whole OS works, instead decouple it away so if there are updates needed to the OS it can fit nicely on top.
So no I don't think Sense will fade away, but I do hope the way they implement it is as close to stock as possible, just adding features on top of it.
i don't see the point in complaining about this since pretty much all of us here on this forum have the ability to root and just install vanilla ROM, or whatever you want
for the average user (NOT US!) HTC don't seem to do a pretty decent job with Sense, since developers here can prepare some very highly optimised versions. What i would prefer is for HTC to look at the ROMs present over here and take note.
I run RCMix HD sense 3.5 daily without any problems at all and while comparing it to my brother's iPhone 4, 9 times outta 10 this ROM is as smooth as or even smoother, and lets be fair as far as UI customisations go, HTC are alot further ahead than everyone else, but if they realise the potential in their own skin as the developers have shown, they could take a really hard fight to Apple as far as usability goes (hopefully with less lawsuits than samsung have).
HTC is not gonna remove sense 100%, as they mentioned before they gonna take it to next level sense 4.
So get ready
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Id tend to agree,the divide looks split with sense,personally i like sense. I tried cyn but reverted back,its different coming from say galaxy s to sense,you wont like it as much its your starting point dependant. Anyway yeah htc will continue. Nice
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HTC do something different with Sense and it's one of the reasons I (and others I know) bought an Android phone over another platform. The Sense UI seems to be much better than Touchwiz etc. (tried on Galaxy SII and was not a fan) - phones are a very personal choice at the end of the day and with Android we are a bit spoilt for choice between manufacturers.
Whatever HTC do now that Ice Cream Sandwich is inbound I look forward to their progress as they seem to be my preferred manufacturer right now, if I don't like what they come up with then I can always opt for the Galaxy Nexus or (judging by XDA currently) end up rooting and put stock a ICS ROM on there anyways.
I'm using sense and I must say I like it, when I saw the ics video launch it looked really similar to sense.
I really want to see what HTC is going to do and I hope it won't take too long...
Mymy, i love Sense, i have a Sense ROM in my phone everyday! I always thought that stock Android is ugly, but after i've seen ICS, i am ready to switch to ICS without regrets !
i concur with the observations of everybody one on this thread, sense is some times heavy , most times resource hungry but the most important aspect of it is the packaging, i tried every rom available here on XDA and found when i was on CM i always had to download additional stuff say for my calender's, social networking,word processing (apps to open .doc's and other stuff) and crucial of them camera !!! i am sure many will agree MIUI cam is heck of a lot better then what CM has !. But when i'm back on sense roms (RCmix,ARhd or lee) i dont need get these extra stuff.
The way is see it,if we are going to build some thing to have integration of various different aspects of using your phone with third party applications you are bound to have a heck up here or there but then its quite hard to see those kinda of heck ups happening on any these sense roms even on the beta one's ! so i guess coming from a sony branded x10 with there stupid philosophy and launcher , i believe integration and stability are the key factors of sense, the only other rom that i found such level of integration sans few heck ups are the MIUI roms but then there always the battery drain issue on them.
So as for ICS i believe HTC should try to carry the kind of integration they have sans the resource hunger nature of sense launcher , take some notes from other oem launchers like touchwiz where the complete os experience is not themed.
Just my observations
Actually i like sense but stock ICS looks promising to me. Would love to see a stock ICS with some sense widgets tho
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i concur with the observations of everybody one on this thread, sense is some times heavy , most times resource hungry but the most important aspect of it is the packaging, i tried every rom available here on XDA and found when i was on CM i always had to download additional stuff say for my calender's, social networking,word processing (apps to open .doc's and other stuff) and crucial of them camera !!! i am sure many will agree MIUI cam is heck of a lot better then what CM has !. But when i'm back on sense roms (RCmix,ARhd or lee) i dont need get these extra stuff.
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Exactly. I love how light and smooth CM feels but its just a whole lot more easier and convenient to have everything put on a platter in front of you....like Sense does. Especially with the social integration aspect in the people app and the calender.
Although an AOSP ICS Rom night change all of that for good. We do seem to have improvements in the contacts and calender apps.
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srikanth.naidu said:
i concur with the observations of everybody one on this thread, sense is some times heavy , most times resource hungry but the most important aspect of it is the packaging, i tried every rom available here on XDA and found when i was on CM i always had to download additional stuff say for my calender's, social networking,word processing (apps to open .doc's and other stuff) and crucial of them camera !!! i am sure many will agree MIUI cam is heck of a lot better then what CM has !. But when i'm back on sense roms (RCmix,ARhd or lee) i dont need get these extra stuff.
The way is see it,if we are going to build some thing to have integration of various different aspects of using your phone with third party applications you are bound to have a heck up here or there but then its quite hard to see those kinda of heck ups happening on any these sense roms even on the beta one's ! so i guess coming from a sony branded x10 with there stupid philosophy and launcher , i believe integration and stability are the key factors of sense, the only other rom that i found such level of integration sans few heck ups are the MIUI roms but then there always the battery drain issue on them.
So as for ICS i believe HTC should try to carry the kind of integration they have sans the resource hunger nature of sense launcher , take some notes from other oem launchers like touchwiz where the complete os experience is not themed.
Just my observations
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Agree with this post totally... but what I am hoping now is that ICS is much better on a UI point of view that HTC would not need to change so much of the OS and just tweak it a bit to add a bit of differential. This hopefully mean that it won't be so heavy. But then saying so, HW acceleration will help so much in transitions on the UI that maybe it won't feel as heavy.
I feel HTC should add on top of the existing UI instead of stripping and re-writing most of the Google Code.
Sense is definitely one of the best UI customizations available for Android. The focus on social integration is its biggest strength. At the same time its so heavy that it brings my phone to a standstill sometimes, which makes me want to just go back to AOSP now and then.
To get to the point, I doubt HTC will let Sense fade away that easily. It is their identity, and as MrKaon already mentioned, they're going to take it to the next level. Because ICS has a lot of that functionality now built in, I'm hoping HTC will rework Sense to make it much lighter. I'm eager to see what more they do with it !
So theres already almost every launcher available right now on any device, TouchWiz (Why you would want that is beyond me), the Xperia Launcher which is actually really sweet, and the LG G2 launcher has been added recently with an array of features, is there anyone that can port the Sense5 launcher from the HTC One, i know the widgets and things like that are part of the actual framework implemented by HTC so that prob wont work but apart from that is there a way to port over the base launcher atleast? Every other launcher can be done so why not Sense?
P.S. Please dont say why dont i just use nova/apex with a Sense theme or anything like that, they dont look as good, look out of place with different screen sizes and they dont work in the same way, it annoys me when people always say that :S
GalaxySN00B:0 said:
So theres already almost every launcher available right now on any device, TouchWiz (Why you would want that is beyond me), the Xperia Launcher which is actually really sweet, and the LG G2 launcher has been added recently with an array of features, is there anyone that can port the Sense5 launcher from the HTC One, i know the widgets and things like that are part of the actual framework implemented by HTC so that prob wont work but apart from that is there a way to port over the base launcher atleast? Every other launcher can be done so why not Sense?
P.S. Please dont say why dont i just use nova/apex with a Sense theme or anything like that, they dont look as good, look out of place with different screen sizes and they dont work in the same way, it annoys me when people always say that :S
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It needs the htcframework which is notoriously hard to port to other devices.
GalaxySN00B:0 said:
So theres already almost every launcher available right now on any device, TouchWiz (Why you would want that is beyond me), the Xperia Launcher which is actually really sweet, and the LG G2 launcher has been added recently with an array of features, is there anyone that can port the Sense5 launcher from the HTC One, i know the widgets and things like that are part of the actual framework implemented by HTC so that prob wont work but apart from that is there a way to port over the base launcher atleast? Every other launcher can be done so why not Sense?
P.S. Please dont say why dont i just use nova/apex with a Sense theme or anything like that, they dont look as good, look out of place with different screen sizes and they dont work in the same way, it annoys me when people always say that :S
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It's nearly impossible , tho some guys from s4 managed to port the whole system lol , you might wanna take a look if they could share the info how they did it , tho don't expect even if it gets ported it'll ever work , most of the stuff are and will be broken , mainly hardware related stuff.
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